Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Kalyan K]

Roshan, thanks for the wonderful post.

Kalyan K.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Roshan  wrote:

>
>
> A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> singers.
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow
> better.  We are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories
> from our childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear
> an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness
> that we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost
> something but, in reality I haven't.
>
> I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But
> the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
> portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of
> rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
> kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to
> listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and
> placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the
> kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I
> was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and
> connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just
> one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein!
>
> now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
> cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.
>
> We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman,
> Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and
> some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how
> music has lost its soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those
> people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their
> favorites.   give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be
> talking about how great the 2010's music were.
>
> It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman
> created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or
> children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of
> your life. there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..
> and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when
> you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life.
>
>
> try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the
> soul.   it only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more
> experienced, aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense,
> just for fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all
> can enjoy the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet
> you will.
>
> sorry about the long post :)
>
>
> ---
> http://roshanravi.com
> http://ramblingsoul.com
> http://cssheaven.org
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[AJ]

Seems like we're going in circles here...these people misinterpret messages 
to fit their limited schemas, which are very biased.  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan  wrote:
>
> Jemsheed seems to have totally misread what I had to say. i wasn't saying
> anything about enthiran or that they should start listening to the songs
> they don't like.
> 
> just wrote what i felt about how a song from the past can trigger memories
> we like or had an impact in our lives.. i was going through such a moment
> when i wrote that mail.
> 
> it wasn't meant to start another  constructive criticism Vs. hate mail
> thread.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Indmov Buff  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Jemsheed, MY answers to your questions.
> >
> >
> > So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what
> > he did in album like 'Gentleman'? Yes. Just because you don't like it and I
> > don't like it, that doesn't mean someone else can't love it and feel that it
> > is a very innovative album. Why are you putting down someone who thinks that
> > an album you don't like is great. I don't like Endhiran. That doesn't make
> > someone who likes it is being silly.
> >
> > Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews ? Can
> > you point to some negative reviews. I think it's mostly a mixed bag. When
> > VTV released, every review I read was negative until the movie caught up
> > with the music and it turned out to be a sensational hit.  Go back and read
> > the first reviews of VTV and you'll understand That doesn't mean it will
> > happen to Endhiran but I am just giving you an idea.  The buzz in Chennai is
> > very positive though for Endhiran amongst its target audience and that's
> > what matters!
> >
> >
> > Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'.
> > Absolutely. that's what I feel,a nyway and I can sense a lot of Shnakar in
> > this album. I am sure the director played a big role in the music.
> >
> > If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But
> > unfortunately we are in 2010. - that's your opinion. you are entitled to
> > one. Fine but don't trash those who think otherwise.
> >
> > Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ? Yes Jemsheed. unfortunately
> > you are not the only literate man out there in the world. A few more out
> > there are aware of what quality is and please respect their views even if it
> > doesn't agree with yours.
> >
> > Roshan, sorry to hijack your post ! Great read!
> >
> >
> > --
> > *From:* jemsheed 
> > *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Mon, 23 August, 2010 18:25:33
> > *Subject:* Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ok.. agree that we all have memories with songs of 90s.
> > So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what
> > he did in album like 'Gentleman'?
> > Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews.
> > Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'.
> > If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But
> > unfortunately we are in 2010.
> > Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ?
> >
> > There is one thing always , i mean now a days AR is a busy man ,he has
> > enough songs to make out, enough functions to attend so he also will be
> > having priorities. He prioritizes his work also.Why AR wants to spend much
> > time on a director who made a movie like 'Sivaji'.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 23/8/10, Roshan * wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Roshan 
> > Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, 23 August, 2010, 5:30 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> > better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> > the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> > singers.
> >
> > But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> > it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> > in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> > great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Roshan]

Jemsheed seems to have totally misread what I had to say. i wasn't saying
anything about enthiran or that they should start listening to the songs
they don't like.

just wrote what i felt about how a song from the past can trigger memories
we like or had an impact in our lives.. i was going through such a moment
when i wrote that mail.

it wasn't meant to start another  constructive criticism Vs. hate mail
thread.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Indmov Buff  wrote:

>
>
> Jemsheed, MY answers to your questions.
>
>
> So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what
> he did in album like 'Gentleman'? Yes. Just because you don't like it and I
> don't like it, that doesn't mean someone else can't love it and feel that it
> is a very innovative album. Why are you putting down someone who thinks that
> an album you don't like is great. I don't like Endhiran. That doesn't make
> someone who likes it is being silly.
>
> Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews ? Can
> you point to some negative reviews. I think it's mostly a mixed bag. When
> VTV released, every review I read was negative until the movie caught up
> with the music and it turned out to be a sensational hit.  Go back and read
> the first reviews of VTV and you'll understand That doesn't mean it will
> happen to Endhiran but I am just giving you an idea.  The buzz in Chennai is
> very positive though for Endhiran amongst its target audience and that's
> what matters!
>
>
> Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'.
> Absolutely. that's what I feel,a nyway and I can sense a lot of Shnakar in
> this album. I am sure the director played a big role in the music.
>
> If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But
> unfortunately we are in 2010. - that's your opinion. you are entitled to
> one. Fine but don't trash those who think otherwise.
>
> Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ? Yes Jemsheed. unfortunately
> you are not the only literate man out there in the world. A few more out
> there are aware of what quality is and please respect their views even if it
> doesn't agree with yours.
>
> Roshan, sorry to hijack your post ! Great read!
>
>
> --
> *From:* jemsheed 
> *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Mon, 23 August, 2010 18:25:33
> *Subject:* Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better
>
>
>
>
> ok.. agree that we all have memories with songs of 90s.
> So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what
> he did in album like 'Gentleman'?
> Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews.
> Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'.
> If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But
> unfortunately we are in 2010.
> Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ?
>
> There is one thing always , i mean now a days AR is a busy man ,he has
> enough songs to make out, enough functions to attend so he also will be
> having priorities. He prioritizes his work also.Why AR wants to spend much
> time on a director who made a movie like 'Sivaji'.
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 23/8/10, Roshan * wrote:
>
>
> From: Roshan 
> Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, 23 August, 2010, 5:30 AM
>
>
>
> A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> singers.
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow
> better.  We are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories
> from our childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear
> an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness
> that we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives mak

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Indmov Buff]

Jemsheed, MY answers to your questions.


So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what he 
did 
in album like 'Gentleman'? Yes. Just because you don't like it and I don't like 
it, that doesn't mean someone else can't love it and feel that it is a very 
innovative album. Why are you putting down someone who thinks that an album you 
don't like is great. I don't like Endhiran. That doesn't make someone who likes 
it is being silly. 

Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews ? Can you 
point to some negative reviews. I think it's mostly a mixed bag. When VTV 
released, every review I read was negative until the movie caught up with the 
music and it turned out to be a sensational hit.  Go back and read the first 
reviews of VTV and you'll understand That doesn't mean it will happen to 
Endhiran but I am just giving you an idea.  The buzz in Chennai is very 
positive 
though for Endhiran amongst its target audience and that's what matters! 


Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'. Absolutely. 
that's what I feel,a nyway and I can sense a lot of Shnakar in this album. I am 
sure the director played a big role in the music. 

If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But 
unfortunately we are in 2010. - that's your opinion. you are entitled to one. 
Fine but don't trash those who think otherwise. 

Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ? Yes Jemsheed. unfortunately you 
are 
not the only literate man out there in the world. A few more out there are 
aware 
of what quality is and please respect their views even if it doesn't agree with 
yours. 

Roshan, sorry to hijack your post ! Great read!


 

____________
From: jemsheed 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 23 August, 2010 18:25:33
Subject: Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

  

ok.. agree that we all have memories with songs of 90s.
So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what he 
did 
in album like 'Gentleman'?
Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews.
Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'.
If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But 
unfortunately we are in 2010.
Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ?

There is one thing always , i mean now a days AR is a busy man ,he has enough 
songs to make out, enough functions to attend so he also will be having 
priorities. He prioritizes his work also.Why AR wants to spend much time on a 
director who made a movie like 'Sivaji'.




--- On Mon, 23/8/10, Roshan  wrote:


>From: Roshan 
>Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
>To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Monday, 23 August, 2010, 5:30 AM
>
>
>  
>A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better 
>in 
>his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the past.  
>Not 
>just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers.  
>
>
>But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it 
>is 
>because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in 
>love, 
>breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great friend.. 
>the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow better.  We are always 
>worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories from our childhood and 
>teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear an old song, it triggers 
>memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that we related to that 
>particular song.
>
>Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of great 
>songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a great 
>time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when I 
>started 
>listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was in love. 
>And, 
>when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost something but, in 
>reality I haven't. 
>
>
>I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically.  But 
>the 
>reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first  portable 
>cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of  rangeela as a 
>gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular  kid because I 
>had 
>a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory  to listen to the songs. 
>So, we put some money together and bought a  speaker and placed it on top of a 
>cardboard box with a hole in it, so  the rest of the kids can hear it.   I was 
>so excited. because not only I  got more friends, I was doing 

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Roshan]

firstly, i didn't say anything about Enthiran. I didn't ask you to expect
anything.  I didn't compare albums. I just merely said what i felt about how
we related and associate songs with events from the past.

have you really read the post ?  because you seems to be in a
confrontational mode in this mail..

what is that thing about quality that you speak of.. because I don't see it
in your reply.





On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:55 PM, jemsheed  wrote:

>
>
>
> ok.. agree that we all have memories with songs of 90s.
> So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what
> he did in album like 'Gentleman'?
> Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews.
> Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'.
> If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But
> unfortunately we are in 2010.
> Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ?
>
> There is one thing always , i mean now a days AR is a busy man ,he has
> enough songs to make out, enough functions to attend so he also will be
> having priorities. He prioritizes his work also.Why AR wants to spend much
> time on a director who made a movie like 'Sivaji'.
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 23/8/10, Roshan * wrote:
>
>
> From: Roshan 
> Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, 23 August, 2010, 5:30 AM
>
>
>
>
> A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> singers.
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow
> better.  We are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories
> from our childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear
> an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness
> that we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost
> something but, in reality I haven't.
>
> I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But
> the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
> portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of
> rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
> kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to
> listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and
> placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the
> kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I
> was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and
> connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just
> one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein!
>
> now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
> cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.
>
> We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman,
> Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and
> some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how
> music has lost its soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those
> people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their
> favorites.   give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be
> talking about how great the 2010's music were.
>
> It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman
> created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or
> children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of
> your life. there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..
> and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when
> you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life.
>
>
> try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the
> soul.   it only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more
> experienced, aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense,
> just for fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all
> can enjoy the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet
> you will.
>
> sorry about the long post :)
>
>
> --

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[jemsheed]

ok.. agree that we all have memories with songs of 90s.
So you think that innovation in an album like endhiran is as same as what he 
did in album like 'Gentleman'?
Can you explain why endhiran getting whole lot of negative reviews.
Tell me is that the expected sound from a concept like 'endhiran'.
If this album was in 90s it could have been an outstanding album.But 
unfortunately we are in 2010.
Have you heard of  a word called 'quality' ?

There is one thing always , i mean now a days AR is a busy man ,he has enough 
songs to make out, enough functions to attend so he also will be having 
priorities. He prioritizes his work also.Why AR wants to spend much time on a 
director who made a movie like 'Sivaji'.




--- On Mon, 23/8/10, Roshan  wrote:

From: Roshan 
Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 23 August, 2010, 5:30 AM







 



  



  
  
  A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was 
better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the 
past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers.  


But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it is 
because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in love, 
breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great friend.. 
the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow better.  We are always 
worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories from our childhood and 
teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear an old song, it triggers 
memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that we related to that 
particular song.


Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of great 
songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a great 
time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when I 
started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was in 
love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost 
something but, in reality I haven't. 


I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. 
But the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
 portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of 
rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
 kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory 
to listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a 
speaker and placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so 
the rest of the kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I
 got more friends, I was doing something with electronics stuff.. 
cutting the earphones and connecting the wires to the speaker, making 
the sound go louder with just one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was 
Einstein! 



now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
 cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.


We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman, Noushad, 
Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and some people 
even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how music has lost its 
soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those people related to their 
most cherished memories when they hear their favorites.   give today's music 
another 20 to 30 years and we will be talking about how great the 2010's music 
were.  


It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman 
created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or children 
during that time and probably were having the greatest times of your life. 
there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..  and probably 
ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when you hear it now, 
you are taken back to that golden era of your life.



try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the soul.   it 
only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more experienced, aged and 
wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, just for fun.). get into 
the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all can enjoy the Kala Bandar 
and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet you will. 


sorry about the long post :)


---
http://roshanravi.com
http://ramblingsoul.com
http://cssheaven.org






 





 



  

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Thulasi Ram]

wow! after long long time i've read a post from our group that has made me
to read it again and o yet again! simply bcuz i was able to relate to it.

its apparent from ARRs work that more creative room he has, better the
output.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Roshan  wrote:

>
>
> A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> singers.
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow
> better.  We are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories
> from our childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear
> an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness
> that we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost
> something but, in reality I haven't.
>
> I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But
> the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
> portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of
> rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
> kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to
> listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and
> placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the
> kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I
> was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and
> connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just
> one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein!
>
> now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
> cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.
>
> We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman,
> Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and
> some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how
> music has lost its soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those
> people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their
> favorites.   give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be
> talking about how great the 2010's music were.
>
> It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman
> created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or
> children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of
> your life. there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..
> and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when
> you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life.
>
>
> try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the
> soul.   it only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more
> experienced, aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense,
> just for fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all
> can enjoy the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet
> you will.
>
> sorry about the long post :)
>
>
> ---
> http://roshanravi.com
> http://ramblingsoul.com
> http://cssheaven.org
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Sujith M S]

Definitely agree with that. We always like to stick to past. Past is always
sweet. But we need to change with time. If Rahman always do similar stuff
people say he is repetitive. He is doing a lot of experiments and wisely
changing with time. So what, he is still there in the industry as the No.1

-- 
Thanks & Regards,
*Sujith M S* 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:35 AM, mohammed sajin  wrote:

>
>
> Good post, Roshan.
> But, I strongly believe it will not give the result, what you are trying
> for.
> Some guys will never change.
>
> SAJIN
>
> --
> *From:* Roshan 
> *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Mon, August 23, 2010 4:00:09 AM
> *Subject:* [arr] Why the past songs are better
>
>
>
> A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> singers.
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow
> better.  We are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories
> from our childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear
> an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness
> that we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost
> something but, in reality I haven't.
>
> I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But
> the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
> portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of
> rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
> kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to
> listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and
> placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the
> kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I
> was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and
> connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just
> one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein!
>
> now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
> cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.
>
> We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman,
> Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and
> some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how
> music has lost its soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those
> people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their
> favorites.   give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be
> talking about how great the 2010's music were.
>
> It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman
> created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or
> children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of
> your life. there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..
> and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when
> you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life.
>
>
> try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the
> soul.   it only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more
> experienced, aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense,
> just for fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all
> can enjoy the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet
> you will.
>
> sorry about the long post :)
>
>
> ---
> http://roshanravi.com
> http://ramblingsoul.com
> http://cssheaven.org
>
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[kishore parayath]

Forgot to mention one of the BEST MASTERPIECES of ARR..which HAPPENED in the
POST 2000 era.
LAGANNN!!

Then HOW on earth can one say that Rahman of the 2000's doesnt match Rahman
of the 90s??

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Roshan]

thanks everyone.

thanks AJ, means a lot when you say that I nailed it.  :)  you did inspire
me to write even though i am bad at it.

i wasn't really trying to change. I was just listening to the song Yesterday
while i was working and I literally had to stop doing the job because i was
feeling so nostalgic. so, i thought i would write that post.  But I know,
some people will not change.

glad that lots of people agree with me.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:35 AM, mohammed sajin  wrote:

>
>
> Good post, Roshan.
> But, I strongly believe it will not give the result, what you are trying
> for.
> Some guys will never change.
>
> SAJIN
>
> --
> *From:* Roshan 
> *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Mon, August 23, 2010 4:00:09 AM
> *Subject:* [arr] Why the past songs are better
>
>
>
> A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> singers.
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow
> better.  We are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories
> from our childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear
> an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness
> that we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost
> something but, in reality I haven't.
>
> I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But
> the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
> portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of
> rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
> kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to
> listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and
> placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the
> kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I
> was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and
> connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just
> one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein!
>
> now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
> cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.
>
> We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman,
> Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and
> some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how
> music has lost its soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those
> people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their
> favorites.   give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be
> talking about how great the 2010's music were.
>
> It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman
> created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or
> children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of
> your life. there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..
> and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when
> you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life.
>
>
> try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the
> soul.   it only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more
> experienced, aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense,
> just for fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all
> can enjoy the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet
> you will.
>
> sorry about the long post :)
>
>
> ---
> http://roshanravi.com
> http://ramblingsoul.com
> http://cssheaven.org
>
>
>  
>



-- 
---
http://roshanravi.com
http://ramblingsoul.com
http://cssheaven.org

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Roshan]

but roshan u said that "we need clown in the group or  something like that"
really made me upset...but now i have forgotten it bro thanks to ur
postno hard feelings ...apologise if my post disturbed some or hurt ur
feelings guys...see archives for my old posts u will know that i m not a bad
person

aah don't worry.  you don't have to apologize to anyone. we all are fed up
of the same old disappointment mails and it needs a little bit of blow below
the belt to make them realize that.

I am glad you have started to realize it.  No body is a bad person.

cheers.

Roshan

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:51 PM, shai  wrote:

>
>
> good explanations from you...thats very true but still i hope that
> rahman could or should come out with something like pudhu vellai malai from
> roja if any of his future movies allowed himanother example will be mann
> chandre from connections which i really love to see it feature in some movie
> rather than going unnknown in an album.i agree that many of his 90's
> songs bring out my memories at the time that particular song got
> realeased
>
> and i strongly believe that those songs that we didnt like much now ,we
> will love after few years from now which will bring out some memories that
> we had experienced now rather than really liking the songs now itself.
>
> i rarely post msgs here...but for the past one week i know and realized
> that i got a bit emotianal in expressing my oppinions here...i dont want to
> say that i regret about it but at the same time i m not proud of
> thoughto be honest i was very disturbed when i heard(maybe its just a
> rumours) that shankar is going to remake 3 idiots in tamil and that is with
> harris jeyaraj...that made me upset terribly the whole week even till
> nownow maybe u guys will understand why my posts are like that...
>
> but i m proud of u guys who really defended rahman well..thats how a rahman
> fan should besome of u really explained to me very well...thanks to u
> guysbut roshan u said that "we need clown in the group or  something
> like that" really made me upset...but now i have forgotten it bro thanks to
> ur postno hard feelings ...apologise if my post disturbed some or hurt
> ur feelings guys...see archives for my old posts u will know that i m not
> a bad person
>
> thanks again..
>
> --- On *Sun, 8/22/10, Roshan * wrote:
>
>
> From: Roshan 
> Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 5:00 PM
>
>
>  A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was
> better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from
> the past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and
> singers.
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past.
> it is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling
> in love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a
> great friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow
> better.  We are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories
> from our childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear
> an old song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness
> that we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost
> something but, in reality I haven't.
>
> I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But
> the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
> portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of
> rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
> kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to
> listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and
> placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the
> kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I
> was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and
> connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just
> one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein!
>
> now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
> cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.
>
> We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman,
> Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and
> some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how
> music has lost its soul.  It

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[mohammed sajin]

Good post, Roshan.
But, I strongly believe it will not give the result, what you are trying for.
Some guys will never change.

SAJIN




From: Roshan 
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:00:09 AM
Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better

  
A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better in 
his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the past.  
Not 
just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers.  


But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it is 
because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in love, 
breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great friend.. 
the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow better.  We are always 
worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories from our childhood and 
teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear an old song, it triggers 
memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that we related to that 
particular song.

Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of great 
songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a great 
time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when I 
started 
listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was in love. 
And, 
when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost something but, in 
reality I haven't. 


I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically.  But 
the 
reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first  portable 
cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of  rangeela as a 
gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular  kid because I 
had 
a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory  to listen to the songs. 
So, we put some money together and bought a  speaker and placed it on top of a 
cardboard box with a hole in it, so  the rest of the kids can hear it.   I was 
so excited. because not only I  got more friends, I was doing something with 
electronics stuff..  cutting the earphones and connecting the wires to the 
speaker, making  the sound go louder with just one cardboard box with a hole! I 
felt like I was  Einstein! 


now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that  
cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.

We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman, Noushad, 
Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and some people 
even 
compare them with today's musicians and talk about how music has lost its soul. 
 
It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those people related to their most 
cherished memories when they hear their favorites.   give today's music another 
20 to 30 years and we will be talking about how great the 2010's music were.  


It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman 
created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or children 
during that time and probably were having the greatest times of your life. 
there 
were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..  and probably ar 
rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when you hear it now, 
you 
are taken back to that golden era of your life.


try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the soul.   it 
only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more experienced, aged and 
wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, just for fun.). get into 
the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all can enjoy the Kala Bandar 
and 
Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet you will. 


sorry about the long post :)


---
http://roshanravi.com
http://ramblingsoul.com
http://cssheaven.org


 


  

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[shai]

good explanations from you...thats very true but still i hope that rahman 
could or should come out with something like pudhu vellai malai from roja if 
any of his future movies allowed himanother example will be mann chandre 
from connections which i really love to see it feature in some movie rather 
than going unnknown in an album.i agree that many of his 90's songs bring 
out my memories at the time that particular song got realeased
 
and i strongly believe that those songs that we didnt like much now ,we will 
love after few years from now which will bring out some memories that we had 
experienced now rather than really liking the songs now itself.
 
i rarely post msgs here...but for the past one week i know and realized that i 
got a bit emotianal in expressing my oppinions here...i dont want to say that i 
regret about it but at the same time i m not proud of thoughto be honest i 
was very disturbed when i heard(maybe its just a rumours) that shankar is going 
to remake 3 idiots in tamil and that is with harris jeyaraj...that made me 
upset terribly the whole week even till nownow maybe u guys will understand 
why my posts are like that...
 
but i m proud of u guys who really defended rahman well..thats how a rahman fan 
should besome of u really explained to me very well...thanks to u 
guysbut roshan u said that "we need clown in the group or  something like 
that" really made me upset...but now i have forgotten it bro thanks to ur 
postno hard feelings ...apologise if my post disturbed some or hurt ur 
feelings guys...see archives for my old posts u will know that i m not a bad 
person
 
thanks again..
--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Roshan  wrote:


From: Roshan 
Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 5:00 PM


  



A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better in 
his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the past.  
Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers.  

But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it is 
because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in love, 
breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great friend.. 
the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow better.  We are always 
worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories from our childhood and 
teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear an old song, it triggers 
memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that we related to that 
particular song.

Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of great 
songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a great 
time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when I 
started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was in 
love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost 
something but, in reality I haven't. 

I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But the 
reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first portable 
cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of rangeela as a 
gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular kid because I had 
a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to listen to the songs. 
So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and placed it on top of a 
cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the kids can hear it.   I was 
so excited. because not only I got more friends, I was doing something with 
electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and connecting the wires to the 
speaker, making the sound go louder with just one cardboard box with a hole! I 
felt like I was Einstein! 

now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that 
cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.

We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman, Noushad, 
Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and some people 
even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how music has lost its 
soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those people related to their 
most cherished memories when they hear their favorites.   give today's music 
another 20 to 30 years and we will be talking about how great the 2010's music 
were.  

It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman 
created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or children 
during that time and probably were having the greatest times of your life. 
there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..  and probably 
ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when you hear it now, 
you are taken back to that golden era of your life.


try to understand that fact before s

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[rakesh kumar]

Roshan,

Frankly speaking when i see the heading, I though again somebody starting the 
"old better and new lost charm" discussion.. again. And other members wil join 
it and will be a long mail thread. 

But i am glad when i read it. It was really good and you said exactly what i 
feel. Its the nostalgic feel of momemts which we associate with a particular 
song which makes it special and likable. I myself had these memories. 

I remember going to my best friends house, who is a punjabi and he said, listen 
to this album and he played "Rangeela" I cant tell u the feeling when i heard 
that beats and songs. It was simple anything i had heard before. though 
expected from Rahman as i was hearing his songs since roja, but the moment come 
unexpected. On my way back to home, i had new Cassette of Rangeela.

I feel people always have this "old is gold" concept in their mind. let the new 
songs become old, then they will also be likable and nobody will say its not 
soul less.

Great post buddy.

ARR Rulez

Rakesh




--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Roshan  wrote:

From: Roshan 
Subject: [arr] Why the past songs are better
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 5:00 PM







 



  



  
  
  A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was 
better in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the 
past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers.  


But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it is 
because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in love, 
breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great friend.. 
the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow better.  We are always 
worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories from our childhood and 
teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear an old song, it triggers 
memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that we related to that 
particular song.


Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of great 
songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a great 
time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when I 
started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was in 
love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost 
something but, in reality I haven't. 


I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. 
But the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
 portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of 
rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
 kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory 
to listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a 
speaker and placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so 
the rest of the kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I
 got more friends, I was doing something with electronics stuff.. 
cutting the earphones and connecting the wires to the speaker, making 
the sound go louder with just one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was 
Einstein! 



now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
 cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.


We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman, Noushad, 
Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and some people 
even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how music has lost its 
soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those people related to their 
most cherished memories when they hear their favorites.   give today's music 
another 20 to 30 years and we will be talking about how great the 2010's music 
were.  


It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman 
created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or children 
during that time and probably were having the greatest times of your life. 
there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..  and probably 
ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when you hear it now, 
you are taken back to that golden era of your life.



try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the soul.   it 
only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more experienced, aged and 
wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, just for fun.). get into 
the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all can enjoy the Kala Bandar 
and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet you will. 


sorry about the long post :)


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http://ramblingsoul.com
http://cssheaven.org






 





 



  






  

Re: [arr] Why the past songs are better

[Madhavan Rajan]

Roshan,

That was wonderful! You took me back to my childhood days!! Thoroughly
enjoyed reading every bit of your experience...

On 8/23/10, Roshan  wrote:
> A lot of our members have expressed their feelings that AR Rahman was better
> in his 90s.  Though I don't agree with them I have my favorites from the
> past.  Not just from Rahman. From all the composers, musicians and singers.
>
>
> But the fact is that it is not because the songs were better in the past. it
> is because we always hold on to our past. be it songs, incidents, falling in
> love, breakups, marraige functions, first job, college graduation, a great
> friend.. the whole life.  We always think that past was somehow better.  We
> are always worried about the future.  don't we cherish  memories from our
> childhood and teenage ?  It is the same with songs.  when we hear an old
> song, it triggers memories of incidents, people, happiness or sadness that
> we related to that particular song.
>
> Beatles' Yesterday is an absolute favorite of mine.  there are plenty of
> great songs even better than that one. but it brings me back the memory of a
> great time had in Brunei when I got my first job there in 2003. That is when
> I started listening to international artistes often and on top of that I was
> in love. And, when I hear it now, it gives makes me feel like I have lost
> something but, in reality I haven't.
>
> I love Tanha Tanha from rangeela a lot.  it is a great song, musically. But
> the reason I love it the most is because that is when I got my first
> portable cassette player (Videocon Walkman) along with a cassette of
> rangeela as a gift.  I did my schooling in a hostel, and I became a popular
> kid because I had a walkman.  lots of kids would come to our dormitory to
> listen to the songs. So, we put some money together and bought a speaker and
> placed it on top of a cardboard box with a hole in it, so the rest of the
> kids can hear it.   I was so excited. because not only I got more friends, I
> was doing something with electronics stuff.. cutting the earphones and
> connecting the wires to the speaker, making the sound go louder with just
> one cardboard box with a hole! I felt like I was Einstein!
>
> now, when I hear that song.. it brings back memories of my friends, that
> cardboard box, that videocon walkman, and my great school and teachers.
>
> We all talk about how great the classics were.  we regard RD Burman,
> Noushad, Ilaya Raja and the whole lot of great musicians as the best and
> some people even compare them with today's musicians and talk about how
> music has lost its soul.  It hasn't lost any soul. it is because those
> people related to their most cherished memories when they hear their
> favorites.   give today's music another 20 to 30 years and we will be
> talking about how great the 2010's music were.
>
> It is same for AR Rahman.  the reason why some of you think that ar rahman
> created better music in 90s is because you were probably teenagers or
> children during that time and probably were having the greatest times of
> your life. there were lots of things happening,  experiencing new things..
> and probably ar rahman's music even helped you a lot at that time. and when
> you hear it now, you are taken back to that golden era of your life.
>
>
> try to understand that fact before saying ar rahman's music lost the soul.
> it only means that you have grown up,  you  have become more experienced,
> aged and wiser ( and probably grayer and fatter - no offense, just for
> fun.). get into the mindset of a teenager again and see if you all can enjoy
> the Kala Bandar and Jai Ho and Fiqraana and even Enthiran.   I bet you will.
>
>
> sorry about the long post :)
>
>
> ---
> http://roshanravi.com
> http://ramblingsoul.com
> http://cssheaven.org
>


-- 
Cheers,
Madhavan.R
Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!