Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-28 Thread Adams, Peter
I do want to call out that applying an incident template after creation of the 
incident is also not possible ootb with the mid-tier ITSM UI.  I understand 
that some customers have solved this via “customization”, but it is not an ootb 
capability.

In fact, there are a number of interesting quesitons with the concept of 
applying a template after creation of an incident. For example, what if any 
previously entered data (or a previously selected template) has triggered some 
specific workflow - not just assignments, but other, more complex processing?  
Can you “undo” such processing?  Or if you execute the second workflow on top 
of the first one, could that lead to unexpected results?  The more complex / 
automated the processing of an incident is, the more difficult it will be to 
apply two different types of processing on the same record. I’d be interested 
to hear how companies have avoided any “unwanted interference” here.

Peter


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Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**

Hello everyone.

On the subject of Smart IT, by any chance would anyone know how I could 
customize Smart IT to have the ability to apply an Incident Template after an 
incident has been created. In the midtier you can do this easily out of the 
box. Smart It only allows templates at the time of Incident creation.








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behalf of Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:46 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**
Mark,

Been doing OK, thanks for asking! Hope you are well too.. How is that whole 
auto load of foundation data working out for you guys?

Regarding your current problem, I have not really tried it but I would go with 
using an overlay on the existing menu instead of replacing it and see how that 
pans out.

I’ll be honest that when I saw how useful Smart and My IT were in its current 
state, when you compare these tools with the Mid-Tier, there were too many 
functionalities that I found were not consistent between the two as well as 
between them and the Mid-Tier.. I had compiled a list of these that I no longer 
have with me in person but I do remember some of them especially the key bullet 
points around the Work Log field, the Status field, etc.

(((If interested in the list of inconsistencies I found, write to me offline, 
and I’ll share them as and when I recall the bullet points I made in that list 
I no longer have with me..)))

As a result, since I was not assigned the work of looking for possible 
solutions for the inconsistencies I had found, I won’t be able to confirm or 
deny if overlaying the existing menu will help. Gut feelings say it may not as 
Smart and My IT has its own set of instructions that brings them to life, which 
do not depend on any Mid-Tier client side instructions. Hence there is a fat 
chance that remodeling the menu with even an overlay may not work, unless Smart 
and My IT instructions rely on the overlay meta data for that Menu,

Like some of the others, I have not heard anything about Innovation Studio and 
its capability to modify Smart and My IT instructions. So can’t comment on 
that..

Cheers

Joe




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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

I agree Shawn. Using the backend processing of assignment engine is prob a 
better way to go

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Pierson, Shawn 
<shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com<mailto:shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com>> 
wrote:
**
Was Innovation Studio ever released?

Also, you can customize Smart IT with JavaScript but that only works for the 
web client and not the mobile clients.  That being said, it’s not supported and 
will disappear whenever you upgrade.  If I were given the requirement that Mark 
has, I’d probably try to rely mostly on the Assignment Engine in some way even 
though it wouldn’t recreate the functionality in the UI.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**
SmartIT is not very extensible unless you use something like Innovation Studio 
which allows you to customize (so I've heard) but it's a separate license .
We've 

Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-10 Thread Kevin M Candelaria
Thanks Joe,



This is what has basically halted our Help Desk Consultants from using Smart 
IT. Incident Request come to us from all kind of sources. Web, E-mail, Direct 
input, Chat, etc.. and if they can not apply a template it is almost pointless 
to use for us.




Kevin Candelaria
Senior Technical Support Specialist
Temple University Computer Services
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Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**

This was one of the things I had noted as a discrepancy between the MT client 
and SmartIT. I am almost positive you cannot customize this with the currently 
available tools for customization of SmartIT available to us as end users.



Joe


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Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person


Hello everyone.

On the subject of Smart IT, by any chance would anyone know how I could 
customize Smart IT to have the ability to apply an Incident Template after an 
incident has been created. In the midtier you can do this easily out of the 
box. Smart It only allows templates at the time of Incident creation.








From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on 
behalf of Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:46 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**
Mark,

Been doing OK, thanks for asking! Hope you are well too.. How is that whole 
auto load of foundation data working out for you guys?

Regarding your current problem, I have not really tried it but I would go with 
using an overlay on the existing menu instead of replacing it and see how that 
pans out.

I’ll be honest that when I saw how useful Smart and My IT were in its current 
state, when you compare these tools with the Mid-Tier, there were too many 
functionalities that I found were not consistent between the two as well as 
between them and the Mid-Tier.. I had compiled a list of these that I no longer 
have with me in person but I do remember some of them especially the key bullet 
points around the Work Log field, the Status field, etc.

(((If interested in the list of inconsistencies I found, write to me offline, 
and I’ll share them as and when I recall the bullet points I made in that list 
I no longer have with me..)))

As a result, since I was not assigned the work of looking for possible 
solutions for the inconsistencies I had found, I won’t be able to confirm or 
deny if overlaying the existing menu will help. Gut feelings say it may not as 
Smart and My IT has its own set of instructions that brings them to life, which 
do not depend on any Mid-Tier client side instructions. Hence there is a fat 
chance that remodeling the menu with even an overlay may not work, unless Smart 
and My IT instructions rely on the overlay meta data for that Menu,

Like some of the others, I have not heard anything about Innovation Studio and 
its capability to modify Smart and My IT instructions. So can’t comment on 
that..

Cheers

Joe




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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

I agree Shawn. Using the backend processing of assignment engine is prob a 
better way to go

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Pierson, Shawn 
<shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com<mailto:shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com>> 
wrote:
**
Was Innovation Studio ever released?

Also, you can customize Smart IT with JavaScript but that only works for the 
web client and not the mobile clients.  That being said, it’s not supported and 
will disappear whenever you upgrade.  If I were given the requirement that Mark 
has, I’d probably try to rely mostly on the Assignment Engine in some way even 
though it wouldn’t recreate the functionality in the UI.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:20 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**
SmartIT is not very extensible unless you use something like Innovation Studio 
which allows you to customize (so I've heard) but it's a separate lic

Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-09 Thread Joe D'Souza
This was one of the things I had noted as a discrepancy between the MT client 
and SmartIT. I am almost positive you cannot customize this with the currently 
available tools for customization of SmartIT available to us as end users.

 

Joe

 

  _  

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kevin M Candelaria
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 3:00 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

Hello everyone. 

On the subject of Smart IT, by any chance would anyone know how I could 
customize Smart IT to have the ability to apply an Incident Template after an 
incident has been created. In the midtier you can do this easily out of the 
box. Smart It only allows templates at the time of Incident creation. 

 

 

  

 

  _  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> on 
behalf of Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:46 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person 

 

** 

Mark,

 

Been doing OK, thanks for asking! Hope you are well too.. How is that whole 
auto load of foundation data working out for you guys?

 

Regarding your current problem, I have not really tried it but I would go with 
using an overlay on the existing menu instead of replacing it and see how that 
pans out.

 

I’ll be honest that when I saw how useful Smart and My IT were in its current 
state, when you compare these tools with the Mid-Tier, there were too many 
functionalities that I found were not consistent between the two as well as 
between them and the Mid-Tier.. I had compiled a list of these that I no longer 
have with me in person but I do remember some of them especially the key bullet 
points around the Work Log field, the Status field, etc.

 

(((If interested in the list of inconsistencies I found, write to me offline, 
and I’ll share them as and when I recall the bullet points I made in that list 
I no longer have with me..)))

 

As a result, since I was not assigned the work of looking for possible 
solutions for the inconsistencies I had found, I won’t be able to confirm or 
deny if overlaying the existing menu will help. Gut feelings say it may not as 
Smart and My IT has its own set of instructions that brings them to life, which 
do not depend on any Mid-Tier client side instructions. Hence there is a fat 
chance that remodeling the menu with even an overlay may not work, unless Smart 
and My IT instructions rely on the overlay meta data for that Menu,

 

Like some of the others, I have not heard anything about Innovation Studio and 
its capability to modify Smart and My IT instructions. So can’t comment on 
that..

 

Cheers

 

Joe

 

  _  

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

I agree Shawn. Using the backend processing of assignment engine is prob a 
better way to go

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Pierson, Shawn <shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com> 
wrote:

** 

Was Innovation Studio ever released?  

 

Also, you can customize Smart IT with JavaScript but that only works for the 
web client and not the mobile clients.  That being said, it’s not supported and 
will disappear whenever you upgrade.  If I were given the requirement that Mark 
has, I’d probably try to rely mostly on the Assignment Engine in some way even 
though it wouldn’t recreate the functionality in the UI.

 

Thanks,

 

Shawn Pierson 

Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:20 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

** 

SmartIT is not very extensible unless you use something like Innovation Studio 
which allows you to customize (so I've heard) but it's a separate license . 

We've been using filters and creative wording in error messages to enforce some 
processes but thankfully we were not heavily customized to begin with. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Brittain, Mark <mbritt...@navisite.com> wrote:

** 

HI Joe,

 

Been a while. How have you been? I would take either option, modify the OTB or 
attach a custom menu.

 

Mark

 

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D'Souza)
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

** 

I have seen quite a few limitations and/or discrepancies even with both SmartIT 
and MyIT, most of them being at a functionality level when comparing the same 
function either with the Mid-Tier or its other counterpart (SmartIT vs MyIT) – 
whether these discrepancies ar

Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-09 Thread Joe D'Souza
Mark,

 

Been doing OK, thanks for asking! Hope you are well too.. How is that whole 
auto load of foundation data working out for you guys?

 

Regarding your current problem, I have not really tried it but I would go with 
using an overlay on the existing menu instead of replacing it and see how that 
pans out.

 

I’ll be honest that when I saw how useful Smart and My IT were in its current 
state, when you compare these tools with the Mid-Tier, there were too many 
functionalities that I found were not consistent between the two as well as 
between them and the Mid-Tier.. I had compiled a list of these that I no longer 
have with me in person but I do remember some of them especially the key bullet 
points around the Work Log field, the Status field, etc.

 

(((If interested in the list of inconsistencies I found, write to me offline, 
and I’ll share them as and when I recall the bullet points I made in that list 
I no longer have with me..)))

 

As a result, since I was not assigned the work of looking for possible 
solutions for the inconsistencies I had found, I won’t be able to confirm or 
deny if overlaying the existing menu will help. Gut feelings say it may not as 
Smart and My IT has its own set of instructions that brings them to life, which 
do not depend on any Mid-Tier client side instructions. Hence there is a fat 
chance that remodeling the menu with even an overlay may not work, unless Smart 
and My IT instructions rely on the overlay meta data for that Menu,

 

Like some of the others, I have not heard anything about Innovation Studio and 
its capability to modify Smart and My IT instructions. So can’t comment on 
that..

 

Cheers

 

Joe

 

  _  

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:33 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

I agree Shawn. Using the backend processing of assignment engine is prob a 
better way to go

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Pierson, Shawn <shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com> 
wrote:

** 

Was Innovation Studio ever released?  

 

Also, you can customize Smart IT with JavaScript but that only works for the 
web client and not the mobile clients.  That being said, it’s not supported and 
will disappear whenever you upgrade.  If I were given the requirement that Mark 
has, I’d probably try to rely mostly on the Assignment Engine in some way even 
though it wouldn’t recreate the functionality in the UI.

 

Thanks,

 

Shawn Pierson 

Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:20 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

** 

SmartIT is not very extensible unless you use something like Innovation Studio 
which allows you to customize (so I've heard) but it's a separate license . 

We've been using filters and creative wording in error messages to enforce some 
processes but thankfully we were not heavily customized to begin with. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Brittain, Mark <mbritt...@navisite.com> wrote:

** 

HI Joe,

 

Been a while. How have you been? I would take either option, modify the OTB or 
attach a custom menu.

 

Mark

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Martin D'Souza, Joseph (Joseph Martin 
D'Souza)
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

** 

I have seen quite a few limitations and/or discrepancies even with both SmartIT 
and MyIT, most of them being at a functionality level when comparing the same 
function either with the Mid-Tier or its other counterpart (SmartIT vs MyIT) – 
whether these discrepancies are “by design” or a plain oversight, I do not know 
and I had not raised a ticket with BMC Support to follow up with my 
observations.

 

So given a choice to make that decision myself, I would continue to have my 
users use the Mid-Tier and not really pay much heed to either Smart or My IT 
until there is a more stable release of these two tools..

 

Having said that, are you trying to modify an out of the box menu? Or are you 
trying to replace one?

 

Joe

 


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brittain, Mark
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

Hi All & TGIF

 

In the ITSM 7.6 Incident I had a join form (SIT:Assignee) between CTM:Suport 
Group Assoc LookUp and CTM:People.  These were joined the login id and the key 
field I was after was Site. Based on the join form I created a custom menu 
based on the Site in the Incident and the join form. Finally I had an active 
link to do a change menu if t

Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-09 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
I agree Shawn. Using the backend processing of assignment engine is prob a 
better way to go

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Pierson, Shawn 
> <shawn.pier...@energytransfer.com> wrote:
> 
> **
> Was Innovation Studio ever released? 
>  
> Also, you can customize Smart IT with JavaScript but that only works for the 
> web client and not the mobile clients.  That being said, it’s not supported 
> and will disappear whenever you upgrade.  If I were given the requirement 
> that Mark has, I’d probably try to rely mostly on the Assignment Engine in 
> some way even though it wouldn’t recreate the functionality in the UI.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Shawn Pierson
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:20 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person
>  
> **
> SmartIT is not very extensible unless you use something like Innovation 
> Studio which allows you to customize (so I've heard) but it's a separate 
> license . 
> We've been using filters and creative wording in error messages to enforce 
> some processes but thankfully we were not heavily customized to begin with. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Brittain, Mark <mbritt...@navisite.com> wrote:
> 
> **
> HI Joe,
>  
> Been a while. How have you been? I would take either option, modify the OTB 
> or attach a custom menu.
>  
> Mark
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Martin D'Souza, Joseph (Joseph 
> Martin D'Souza)
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:44 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person
>  
> **
> I have seen quite a few limitations and/or discrepancies even with both 
> SmartIT and MyIT, most of them being at a functionality level when comparing 
> the same function either with the Mid-Tier or its other counterpart (SmartIT 
> vs MyIT) – whether these discrepancies are “by design” or a plain oversight, 
> I do not know and I had not raised a ticket with BMC Support to follow up 
> with my observations.
>  
> So given a choice to make that decision myself, I would continue to have my 
> users use the Mid-Tier and not really pay much heed to either Smart or My IT 
> until there is a more stable release of these two tools..
>  
> Having said that, are you trying to modify an out of the box menu? Or are you 
> trying to replace one?
>  
> Joe
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brittain, Mark
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Smart IT Assigned Person
>  
> Hi All & TGIF
>  
> In the ITSM 7.6 Incident I had a join form (SIT:Assignee) between CTM:Suport 
> Group Assoc LookUp and CTM:People.  These were joined the login id and the 
> key field I was after was Site. Based on the join form I created a custom 
> menu based on the Site in the Incident and the join form. Finally I had an 
> active link to do a change menu if the Incident Type was Infrastructure Event.
>  
> Of course in Smart IT you no longer have active links. I can write a custom 
> menu that would not require an active link but I don’t know of a way to 
> populate it into Smart IT. Any ideas? I did get something from BMC about 
> dynamic menus but it didn’t seem to really get me there.
>  
> Thanks
> Mark
>  
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Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-09 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Was Innovation Studio ever released?

Also, you can customize Smart IT with JavaScript but that only works for the 
web client and not the mobile clients.  That being said, it’s not supported and 
will disappear whenever you upgrade.  If I were given the requirement that Mark 
has, I’d probably try to rely mostly on the Assignment Engine in some way even 
though it wouldn’t recreate the functionality in the UI.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:20 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**
SmartIT is not very extensible unless you use something like Innovation Studio 
which allows you to customize (so I've heard) but it's a separate license .
We've been using filters and creative wording in error messages to enforce some 
processes but thankfully we were not heavily customized to begin with.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Brittain, Mark 
<mbritt...@navisite.com<mailto:mbritt...@navisite.com>> wrote:
**
HI Joe,

Been a while. How have you been? I would take either option, modify the OTB or 
attach a custom menu.

Mark

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Martin D'Souza, Joseph (Joseph Martin 
D'Souza)
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**
I have seen quite a few limitations and/or discrepancies even with both SmartIT 
and MyIT, most of them being at a functionality level when comparing the same 
function either with the Mid-Tier or its other counterpart (SmartIT vs MyIT) – 
whether these discrepancies are “by design” or a plain oversight, I do not know 
and I had not raised a ticket with BMC Support to follow up with my 
observations.

So given a choice to make that decision myself, I would continue to have my 
users use the Mid-Tier and not really pay much heed to either Smart or My IT 
until there is a more stable release of these two tools..

Having said that, are you trying to modify an out of the box menu? Or are you 
trying to replace one?

Joe


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brittain, Mark
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Smart IT Assigned Person

Hi All & TGIF

In the ITSM 7.6 Incident I had a join form (SIT:Assignee) between CTM:Suport 
Group Assoc LookUp and CTM:People.  These were joined the login id and the key 
field I was after was Site. Based on the join form I created a custom menu 
based on the Site in the Incident and the join form. Finally I had an active 
link to do a change menu if the Incident Type was Infrastructure Event.

Of course in Smart IT you no longer have active links. I can write a custom 
menu that would not require an active link but I don’t know of a way to 
populate it into Smart IT. Any ideas? I did get something from BMC about 
dynamic menus but it didn’t seem to really get me there.

Thanks
Mark

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125 Elwood Davis Road | Syracuse NY 13212


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Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-09 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
SmartIT is not very extensible unless you use something like Innovation Studio 
which allows you to customize (so I've heard) but it's a separate license . 
We've been using filters and creative wording in error messages to enforce some 
processes but thankfully we were not heavily customized to begin with. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Brittain, Mark <mbritt...@navisite.com> wrote:
> 
> **
> HI Joe,
>  
> Been a while. How have you been? I would take either option, modify the OTB 
> or attach a custom menu.
>  
> Mark
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Martin D'Souza, Joseph (Joseph 
> Martin D'Souza)
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:44 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person
>  
> **
> I have seen quite a few limitations and/or discrepancies even with both 
> SmartIT and MyIT, most of them being at a functionality level when comparing 
> the same function either with the Mid-Tier or its other counterpart (SmartIT 
> vs MyIT) – whether these discrepancies are “by design” or a plain oversight, 
> I do not know and I had not raised a ticket with BMC Support to follow up 
> with my observations.
>  
> So given a choice to make that decision myself, I would continue to have my 
> users use the Mid-Tier and not really pay much heed to either Smart or My IT 
> until there is a more stable release of these two tools..
>  
> Having said that, are you trying to modify an out of the box menu? Or are you 
> trying to replace one?
>  
> Joe
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brittain, Mark
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Smart IT Assigned Person
>  
> Hi All & TGIF
>  
> In the ITSM 7.6 Incident I had a join form (SIT:Assignee) between CTM:Suport 
> Group Assoc LookUp and CTM:People.  These were joined the login id and the 
> key field I was after was Site. Based on the join form I created a custom 
> menu based on the Site in the Incident and the join form. Finally I had an 
> active link to do a change menu if the Incident Type was Infrastructure Event.
>  
> Of course in Smart IT you no longer have active links. I can write a custom 
> menu that would not require an active link but I don’t know of a way to 
> populate it into Smart IT. Any ideas? I did get something from BMC about 
> dynamic menus but it didn’t seem to really get me there.
>  
> Thanks
> Mark
>  
> Mark Brittain  | Senior Systems Engineer | 315.634.9337
> 125 Elwood Davis Road | Syracuse NY 13212
> 
>  
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Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-09 Thread Brittain, Mark
HI Joe,

Been a while. How have you been? I would take either option, modify the OTB or 
attach a custom menu.

Mark

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Martin D'Souza, Joseph (Joseph Martin 
D'Souza)
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 5:44 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

**
I have seen quite a few limitations and/or discrepancies even with both SmartIT 
and MyIT, most of them being at a functionality level when comparing the same 
function either with the Mid-Tier or its other counterpart (SmartIT vs MyIT) - 
whether these discrepancies are "by design" or a plain oversight, I do not know 
and I had not raised a ticket with BMC Support to follow up with my 
observations.

So given a choice to make that decision myself, I would continue to have my 
users use the Mid-Tier and not really pay much heed to either Smart or My IT 
until there is a more stable release of these two tools..

Having said that, are you trying to modify an out of the box menu? Or are you 
trying to replace one?

Joe


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brittain, Mark
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Smart IT Assigned Person

Hi All & TGIF

In the ITSM 7.6 Incident I had a join form (SIT:Assignee) between CTM:Suport 
Group Assoc LookUp and CTM:People.  These were joined the login id and the key 
field I was after was Site. Based on the join form I created a custom menu 
based on the Site in the Incident and the join form. Finally I had an active 
link to do a change menu if the Incident Type was Infrastructure Event.

Of course in Smart IT you no longer have active links. I can write a custom 
menu that would not require an active link but I don't know of a way to 
populate it into Smart IT. Any ideas? I did get something from BMC about 
dynamic menus but it didn't seem to really get me there.

Thanks
Mark

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125 Elwood Davis Road | Syracuse NY 13212
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Re: Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-08 Thread Joe D'Souza
I have seen quite a few limitations and/or discrepancies even with both
SmartIT and MyIT, most of them being at a functionality level when comparing
the same function either with the Mid-Tier or its other counterpart (SmartIT
vs MyIT) - whether these discrepancies are "by design" or a plain oversight,
I do not know and I had not raised a ticket with BMC Support to follow up
with my observations.

 

So given a choice to make that decision myself, I would continue to have my
users use the Mid-Tier and not really pay much heed to either Smart or My IT
until there is a more stable release of these two tools..

 

Having said that, are you trying to modify an out of the box menu? Or are
you trying to replace one?

 

Joe

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Brittain, Mark
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Smart IT Assigned Person

 

Hi All & TGIF

 

In the ITSM 7.6 Incident I had a join form (SIT:Assignee) between CTM:Suport
Group Assoc LookUp and CTM:People.  These were joined the login id and the
key field I was after was Site. Based on the join form I created a custom
menu based on the Site in the Incident and the join form. Finally I had an
active link to do a change menu if the Incident Type was Infrastructure
Event. 

 

Of course in Smart IT you no longer have active links. I can write a custom
menu that would not require an active link but I don't know of a way to
populate it into Smart IT. Any ideas? I did get something from BMC about
dynamic menus but it didn't seem to really get me there.

 

Thanks

Mark 

 

Mark Brittain  | Senior Systems Engineer | 315.634.9337

125 Elwood Davis Road | Syracuse NY 13212

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Smart IT Assigned Person

2017-08-04 Thread Brittain, Mark
Hi All & TGIF

In the ITSM 7.6 Incident I had a join form (SIT:Assignee) between CTM:Suport 
Group Assoc LookUp and CTM:People.  These were joined the login id and the key 
field I was after was Site. Based on the join form I created a custom menu 
based on the Site in the Incident and the join form. Finally I had an active 
link to do a change menu if the Incident Type was Infrastructure Event.

Of course in Smart IT you no longer have active links. I can write a custom 
menu that would not require an active link but I don't know of a way to 
populate it into Smart IT. Any ideas? I did get something from BMC about 
dynamic menus but it didn't seem to really get me there.

Thanks
Mark

Mark Brittain  | Senior Systems Engineer | 315.634.9337
125 Elwood Davis Road | Syracuse NY 13212
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