Re: Shims for old systems

2019-02-20 Thread Attila Lendvai
> simple and sustainable is a key to survival. In asdf I see the > accumulation of complexity with no end. That is bad generally. old ASDF was broken in countless ways, and i've experienced the bugs in my everyday activities. the question is whether ASDF has any accidental complexity, i.e.

Re: Shims for old systems

2019-02-19 Thread Attila Lendvai
> The shims idea is interesting, but isn't it a lot of trouble to make and > maintain a shim (which has to somehow indicate where to find the source files > for the library), compared to forking a system? +1 there's already the sharplispers group for taking over unmaintained systems (not to be

Re: Shims for old systems

2019-02-19 Thread Robert Goldman
On 19 Feb 2019, at 1:18, 73budden wrote: Hi! Every time I read "asdf", I feel a pain. I've read that there is an attempt to gain resources to improve asdf. I have a sort of plan. 1. Shims. Recent tightening of rules for system definitions is ok, but there are old systems with no maintainers.

Shims for old systems

2019-02-18 Thread 73budden
Hi! Every time I read "asdf", I feel a pain. I've read that there is an attempt to gain resources to improve asdf. I have a sort of plan. 1. Shims. Recent tightening of rules for system definitions is ok, but there are old systems with no maintainers. If such system does not obey the rules, one