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> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:10:06 -0600
> From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the ToI
> To: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> C'da,
> 
> >systemically wrong with Indian governance
> 
> While I do agree that a lot needs to be done in this
> area, the idea of
> making a complete turn-around of areas plagued by
> systemic problems
> will take a long time.
> The Indian Governmental system does have checks and
> balances, so the
> problem really lies with many of those who are in
> charge
> (ministers/bureaucrats). Any system will have
> loopholes, but it has
> become a past time in India for people to take
> advantage of these
> loopholes.
> 
> In the end, systemic problems are caused by a few
> functions,
> (a) bureaucrats and ministers who are corrupt and
> inept
> (b) a populace that is willing to take whatever is
> dished out and
> reelecting the same scoundrels every election cycle
> and
> (c) a business climate where a lot of attention
> seems to be diverted
> to duping/taking advantage of the government
> (country) , people and
> the exchequer.
> 
> Yes, I agree with what Murthy says inspite of the
> fact that there may
> be that polititcian that is willing to put the
> country's need before
> himself.
> 
> >  Suresh Prabhu of Shiv Sena accepted the criticism
> but said the need of the
> > hour was to focus on reforming the politics, its
> institutions and its
> > functionaries rather than indulge in mud-slinging
> 
> Prabhu's statement seems to be more for the press
> and it is a good
> suggestion. The Shiv Sena have not been stalwarts
> either. There have
> been many accusations of corruption and extortion on
> businesses and
> Bollywood leveled against the.
> 
> I would rather tend to side with Murthy on this.
> 
> BTW- all this begs the question: If this is systemic
> and the problems
> are pervasive, how is it that some states are
> registering higher
> growth rates (than national average), while others
> are far below - 3rd
> world standards. Many of the ones that have NOT done
> well are in the
> northern/Central states - from where the GOI is
> supposedly controlled.
> The article I sent on 'Regional Imbalance'  is a
> case in point.
> Lack of growth and development cannot be ALL because
> of poor
> governance. To poor governance, if one were to add a
> good measure of a
> few other unfavorable ingredients, we could see a
> Bihar in the making
> all over India and in every state.
> 
> -- Ram
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> 
> On 12/30/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The following after yesterday's criticism from
> Narayana Murthy.
> >
> > Ram, you might look at Suresh Prabhu's comment
> below. I point that out for
> > those of you who claim that there is nothing
> systemically wrong with Indian
> > governance -- and thus it is a problem with
> people-BAD people that is!
> >
> > (The empheses mine).
> >
> > cm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Narayana Murthy at the receiving end
> > [ Friday, December 30, 2005 10:11:10 pmTIMES NEWS
> NETWORK ]
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> >  NEW DELHI: Leaders across the political spectrum
> have come out strongly
> > against Infosys chief N R Narayana Murthy's
> criticism of the political
> > class, which he said, was "inept" and "corrupt"
> and did not own up to
> > responsibility for its failures. Many felt that
> Murthy's criticism, made on
> > Wednesday at a function in Bangalore, was
> "abusive" in nature.
> >
> >  An agitated Sharad Yadav, head of Janata Dal
> (United), asked Murthy to stay
> > "within limits". He said politicians faced a
> difficult job in marrying
> > aspirations of a heterogeneous mass of people. "I
> challenge him to contest
> > one election and see it for himself. On the other
> hand, I can run a company
> > easily because there you don't have to face people
> and are free to do what
> > you want to," he fumed.
> >
> >  The general feeling was that complexities of
> politics were being ignored,
> > as sweeping generalisations were being made
> against the political class. Ram
> > Kripal Yadav, Lok Sabha MP of Rashtriya Janata
> Dal, pounced on the statement
> > as a "conspiracy to subvert democracy"of which
> corporate houses were also a
> > part. "It is to malign us," he said. Yadav said
> there were enough honest
> > people to be found among politicians. "He is
> elitist," he said.
> >
> >  Samajwadi Party leader Ajar Singh felt it was sad
> and "unfortunate" that
> > such a sweeping statement had come from a
> "respected corporate giant".
> > Countering the charge, he said there were corrupt
> politicians just like
> > businessmen had black sheep among them.
> >
> >  Dismissing charges of lack of accountability,
> Singh said politicians had to
> > face people and even Indira Gandhi faced an
> electoral defeat. "But a
> > businessman can simply declare himself bankrupt
> and does not even have to
> > face the shareholders," he argued. RJD's Yadav
> said businessmen fleece the
> 
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