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What Dr Manmohan Singh is suggesting is a constitutional process. ULFA's
demand, and for that matter that of any insurgency group, isnotbased
on India'sConstitution. It is not democratic either; in fact it need not
be democratic. Dr Singh has sworn in to promote,
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Baruah
Wonderful idea. The pictures are captivating. Can't wait to see.Can't
believe that a District Administration in Assam could start such a
Oh ! No, I'm not part of any recruitment drive for jobs overseas.As I read
the morning papers, i get ideas and occasionally I put pen to paper (not really:
I've been dependant on a keyboard all my life).
The first newsitem is a report of the awards body of City Guilds
stating that
Chandan
Unfortunately Indian society looks down upon the nation builders,
do not value their work, and pay them less still The results are
everywhere to be seen.
What you say is true. It is not that here in the West, these vital workers
are not looked down upon but there is dignity
Raiz
There is an excellent leader in today's Daily Telegraph in its Opinion
section. I believe the netters would appreciate the history of
Indo-British relations vis-a-vis USA. The reproduced articleis
below:
Thanks, Ram, for making it possible for me to go
through the piece on V S Naipaul by Rachel Donadio.
“It’s glib, nonsensical talk from people
who don’t understand that holy war for Muslims is a religious war, and a
religious war is something you never stop fighting.”
I suppose Nailpaul
The prohibition of foreigners, non-Hindus and even low
caste Hindus to certain temples of
India is not a
new thing. First Hindu religion is not a universal religion. It is only in
modern times that the concept of universality has arisen. Vaisnavism as preached
by Shankaradeva and
Barua Saheb
It is a very good news indeed after so many years. But the newspaper
comments are doubtful of IRA's sincerity in this
vital matter'
bhuban.
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So far as questions are concerned,
the MPs submit their questions in writing to the Secretariat of
Parliament and the Secretariat
forwards them to the executive government. The officials prepare the
replies and the Ministers concerned reply them on the floor. The questions are
Mridul
Enjoyed your jokes very much. What I likedis that each of them
appears to betouched withrealism. Do you think so?
Bhuban
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Fragrant Indian cabbies lead
tourist drive.
I know Assam netters evince interest in the
development of tourism. Here’s an interesting piece from yesterday’s
The Times,
Thanks to Priyankoo for introducing http://nivalink.com/assam/ to us.
Just to think of it! While we’re languishing in budget holidays in Europe and
elsewhere, what a wonderful world
waits us in surroundings more familiar to us! Who could dream of dining and
wining at the Burra Sahib’s
Alpana
After going through your excellent report, my wife and I felt as if we were
present in Orlondo ourselves with all of you participating in all the
highlighted events.
Thanks
Bhuban
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Good observation, I must say.
Bhuban
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Yes, today'sEditorial does nothing more than echoes our own
feelings.
Many doctors in Assam, in spite of having a full-time job in rural areas,
do private practice. I think they are afraid of competition from these
half-baked doctors. As I said earlier I have experience in these matters. I
A question to netters.
It appears this article published in the Assam Tribune this morning (27 06
05 )was available to some netters, but not to me. How can this be? I got only
the issue of 26 06 05. Could knowldgeable netters throw some light for my
benefit?
Thanks.
Bhuban
Alpana
I am sorry I didn't relateyour reference to funny accent in the call
centres in the right context.
Bhuban
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The idea is certainly a noble one. In fact in UK it has already been
planned to use nurses and pharmacist for basic health care. Only the other day a
massive scheme was adopted to provide home treatment of certain patients by
paramedics with ambulence cutting down waiting time at the
India alone cannot be
singled out for corruption of this nature. Computer hacking first started in the developed countries
rather than in India. What is interesting,
these hackers are not always condemned. Their help is sough by the police
to detect new crimes. Timely detection helps
The first headline in today’s Assam Tribune is:
Paramedics to treat rural poor in the State. Other newspapers also have carried
this news focusing on its significance in some detail. The headline is enough to
give us an idea how we are dealing with the matter of health involving the
Ram
That is very laudable. We will be very happy to know a little more about
the work done so far.
I always like to pay my tributes to those who derserve it so that they can
continue with their good work.
Bhuban
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Neep
We seldom have the chance to hear the views of the other side;we even do
not know what happens
It is a splendid opportunity for Assamese young men and women to learn
various trades as apprentices during the excavation of this lake and the construction of roads, buildings,
etc. During the rule of the Ahom Kings it was possible for the local people of
Sivasagar to build a lake as big
Umesh
The intelligentsia of pre-Independence India were Anglophiles. It may be said
without fear of contradiction that the country was not within the sphere of
American influence in any field of activity. There were full diplomatic
exchanges which fostered the usual co-operation in
Barua Saheb
I read it earlier and feel guilty for not responding to it earlier. I agree
with you totally in acknowledging our debt to the early Christian missionaries.
In other ways also the article is brilliant. Thanks.
Bhuban
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I congratulate you for being able to find out an excellent dissertation like this covering
comprehensibly such issues as minorities, reserved constituencies, employment,
personal laws, Kashmir, etc and what is more I find support for my own views on
various matters as expressed from
Chandan
Re: your rejoinder about the role ofminorities in Indian
politics.
You've raised a properquestion which I think I am
not prepared to answer it in all its ramification. The subject has been dealt
with academically and may be pursued on the website. Minorities are playing a
vital
Chandan
Elucidating on the
theme 'Aberrations of Democracy', Bezboruah delved deep into the malpractices
and aberrations that have crept into Indian democratic machinery since
independence. He categorised the majority rule scenario in democracy under the
class of 'tyranny of majority' and
I am someone who had the opportunity of listening to Indian leaders as well
as State leaders for many years and occasionally had even been required to take
notes (verbatim or otherwise).I had occasion to listen to many foreign
diplomats, journalists, ex-Princeses,academics, etc etcas a
In a message dated 07/06/2005 08:47:03 GMT Standard Time, BBaruah
writes:
In a message dated 07/06/2005 08:45:16 GMT Standard Time, BBaruah
writes:
Rajen
While I was an employee in Assam Oil Company at Digboias far as I
knew, the find of oil reserves
Ive no plans to become a Prime Minister right now
or in the future. Im just day-dreaming which is, as you all know, quite in
order. I can recall someone who, not very long ago, wanted to be a Swargadeo and I was
prepared to go along with the idea. However, I do not think that was the right
Ive no plans to become a Prime Minister right now
or in the future. Im just day-dreaming which is, as you all know, quite in
order. I can recall someone who, not very long ago, wanted to be a Swargadeo and I was
prepared to go along with the idea. However, I do not think that was the right
Dear Mridul
I sympathise. I already expressed my view that it should not be. What is
neeeded is persuasion. In France, for example, the opposite is the case because
of lower birth rate in that country. Let me not dwell on it as it has been
discussed threadbare at the right quarters.
The
Mridul/Rajen
Rajen has done a lot of research on this subject and honestly you do not
expect me to improve upon it.
You possibly know about the Indian Investment Centres run under the
auspices of the Ministry of Economic Affairs, Government of India. It has
offices in New York, London,
Chandan
It is very careful of you to take such precautions. Congratulations
indeed!
Regards
Bhuban
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I do not have a copy of the Constitution of India with me but as far as I
remember India does not have a specific right to procreation law. It would be,
however, I think recognised as a civil right embodied in the general right to family life. We know that there is
the
Chandan/Ram
Thanks to Ram for making it possible to be acquainted with
thejudgment in some detail. It is a controversial measure and I personally
do not like the judgment. But the SC hasdiscussed all the relevant points
in detail and, more importantly, has given the reasons for the decision
The Sentinel dated June 1, 2005 carried the news of the famous Bofors
case.
No doubt it will be widely reported in the Press.
After 16 years and at the cost of Rs250 crores the High Court pleads
inability to proceed with the case for lack of proper evidence which the CBI failed to
produce.
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writes:
Having
read the whole thing, tells me that democracy is alive andkicking (at
least in this case).
I quite agree. Although I do not like the judgment because for just having
more than two children one
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Therefore a reliable system of justice is indispensable to hold the
responsible accountable. Media lynching is not an acceptable substitute. It
means little,
The system of justice exists. The
Mridul
Thanks. Yes, I would like to know. Pandit Nehru is reported to have said:
Give me ten engineers and I will make a nation (As you can guess, Pandit Nehru's
English was not as poor as mine. I don't remember the exact quote). I
mentionedto Chandan about this objective thing knowing full
Chiranjeet
It is just a response.
Not long ago I read somewhere that Delhi municipality was taking adequate
steps to remove cattle from the streets. I do not know about other cities.
In The International Herald Tribune, May 28-29, 2005 has an
article:'Ripples of India's prosperity touch
KJD
I venture to think that it is the human being who corrupts rather than the
system which is static.
Regards
Bhuban
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writes:
In a message dated 29/05/2005 16:12:58 GMT Standard Time,
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That
is,if individulas with similar background appear to act differently within
two different system,should not we
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The points you made are unassailable. You say it works by which you mean
the American Constitution. It works because the Ameicans have the will to make
it work.
The British Constitution (I should rather say the British system as there
is no written British Constitution) was
Chandan
How can Assam or India show examples of the defaulters, the
law-breakers being held accountable.?
It is not that in India politicians or administrators are never brought to
face justice. Mrs Indira Gandhi had to undergo a trial for alleged
irregularities in election though
Chandan
That was I think a very good analysis. You have stressed on our apathy to
reforms and want social scientists to undertake in-depth studies of it. About
reforms in a society steeped deeply in religious traditions, it is not just
liturgy but a host of other thingss. Religion touches
In these days of improvement in modes of communication by land, river and
air, landlockness is hardly a bottleneck for economic prosperity. There is no
comparison between Switzerland and Assam. I visited Switzerland about a decade
hence and was charmed by the natural beauty of the country
Re:[Assam] Passing the buck-desi-style
Rajen Barua says it: This is good question; so do I think. But its
ramifications are so wide that the adherents of the Parliamentary style
democracy will be at their wits end to go about it.
It is the bounden duty of the judiciary to dispense justice
I
didnt know about the Supreme Court judgment. It would be proper to make comments only
after reading the judgment and obtaining other relevant information. The
airwaves may be free but unregulated radio frequencies would jam other stations.
Community radio broadcasting is very common.
Barua Saheb
As your offer to become a benevolent dictator of Assam has fallen on deaf
years, while empathizing with you, I find several loopholes in your
candidature. I feel I must point these out for your benefiton
time.To be forewarned is to the forearmed.
[I will give
Dr
Jiten Borpujari is from Jorhat. I believe he did a Ph D from Cambridge and
later became an economist working for the United Nations. My wife and I had
the pleasure of dining with the Borpujaries at Dr Nasim Ahmeds house in
Washington about five years ago. I understand
*The 1st part -
difference between "magistrate" and "judge".
These terms are
defined in law text-books.I cannot expect to pass a law examination on the
basis of a remnant memory of a text-book read over forty years ago. What I can
recollect is this: the word 'judge' is like the word
Well said.
Whether US categorizes ULFA as terrorists organisation or not,
it would not mean anything to them as theyre already a banned outfit.
Their unholy alliance with the
perfidious neighbours is nothing but suicidal. It is high time they go out of business. Before that
they ought to
Rajen et al
Only a little submission. ULFA was not up-to-date with their home work.
They indeed appealed to the intelligentsia toback up their demand for
sovereignty. I thnik we didn't rise to the occasion. ULFA also felt the
needrather late.
Regards
Bhuban
Dear Chandan
*Why can't you BK? Is it because you know something that the writer
does not, or is it that you find Chawla's explanations inadequate or
unconvincing?
At the very beginning I complimented the author for his brilliant article.
Chawla is familiar with the working of the
Dear Chandan
*These things could be considered only if case is heard, guilt is
established
You're right. But cases are heard fairly by the courts once they are
brought before the judges.I have not heard any criticism on this score. As
regards trial delays, I discussed the subject
Dear Chandan
Yes, let's await more thoughts from our fellow-netters. As I reflect we
missed an important aspect; that ofcriminal administration vis-a-vis the
Police without which a discussion on the state of the judiciary is incomplete.We
even touched investigative journalism but did not
Dear Netters
It is a brilliant article by Anil Chawla. I never heard about the Fast
Tracks Courts before; his article is comprehensive and it cleared a lot of clogs
from my conception of the working of the judiciary in India during the last
three decades.
The Assam Tribune's editorial has
Dear Chandan
I am not even sure that Rabindra Nath Tagore said it. But what matters is
the truth, the core, the point it makes. Youre right. In law the onus of responsibility falls
on the powerful. But that does not absolve the less guilty because of his
inferior status. As you know,
Thanks to Alpana for e-posting DNB's second missile commisserating with the
meek homeless.
As I understand the learned journalist while bemoaning the predominance
over the meek bythe anti-social, lawless and criminal elements in our
society, points out that in overpopulated Assam, thedepth
Dear Netters
I findit is hardly necessary to respond to Chandan's observations
point by point. Yes, DNB has not worked out how to fix the problem/s. Acccording
to my understanding he is making an effort to generateawareness
among the people so that everyone of us does his or hercivic
Ram
I agree with you in regard to the rest of your observations. One important
point is investigative journalism which has come to stay and which I overlooked.
Indeed the press has a very vital role to play in the society.
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Dear Rajen
Nine out of ten for your dissection of DNB's essay. Like you I also felt
somewhat confused at the first reading of the article; then postponed hastily
writing something, while awaiting further comments from netters.
*"... The Judiciary is clearly to blame for no major
Rajen
Nine out of ten for your dissection of DNB's essay. Like you I also felt
somewhat confused at the first reading of the article; then postponed hastily
writing something, while awaiting further comments from netters.
*"... The Judiciary is clearly to blame for no major politician
Dear Netters
It is most gratifying to note that an Assamese girl is now on the staff of
the prestigious Sunday Telegraph. Nina's article is an excellent
introduction to our youngsters' attitude to a better life abroad. She is on her
threshold to a very rewarding career and we wish her all
I am joining Chandan to indulge in a bit of ritual myself.
I have no inkling of the exact nature of the Right to Information
Bill the learned columnist DNB is
talking about. He capitalized on the word ritual by which he, it seems, meant
the daily routine of the bureaucracy headed by the
Dear Kamal
It is possibly correct i e demographically supported, that the Leicester
city has the highest percentage of Gujarati population in Britain. It is not
only Hindi, Gujarati and Urdu but there are other ethnic languages like Bengali,
Arabic, Chinese, Turkish, Swahili, etc etc
Best Wishes for Rongali Bihu!
Thanks for being nice about my contributions to Asssam Net. Who does not
like to hear and receive compliments?
You enjoy it more when one doesnt deserve it!
I tried to compliment Chandan once. He became furious. Although we come
from the same locality, Namti,
Dear Anjan
Anjan
Happy Rongali Bihu!
Vintage credit of 73 years of a non-sheltered life (that means poor
quality grapes,eh!).
For some time I worked at the Assam PWD Secretariat in the fifties. The
day I joined, your father was on leave on medical grounds. I know how he must
have felt
Dear Netters
Thanks to all who have been kind enough to remember us on this festive
occasion. While I reciprocate their lovely thoughts, I avail this opportunity of
offering our greetings to all netters, friends, relatives and acquaintances at
home and abroad. I wish I could use some
Not being a civil engineer, I just sat listening to the discussion
on-line on Assam roads which I
found to be adequate and appropiate, illuminating and stimulating, pragmatic and self-searching; lastly it
was delightful. What remains for me to do is to offer profuse congratulations to
the
Well done Santanu, your article is most revealing.
Bhuban
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Having been
out touch with many things Indian for a long time, I now realise that the
problems connected with the dalits, in other words the scheduled castes and
tribes did surface the judiciary in India from time to time. It is a pity that
the judiciary has to deal with the matter
Not being an engineer I am certainly not the right person to take part in a discussion
about the standard of road building in Assam. Just one or two things that I know
about roads in Assam and Meghalaya.
The hill roads are often built on rocky foundation and the expenditure
made on these
New Delhi, April 11
(PTI): Paving the
way for a high-voltage debate, the Supreme Court today issued notice to the
Centre on petition raising the sensitive issue of grant of reservation benefits
to scheduled castes even after their conversion to Christianity. (The
Sentinel)
It is very
Dear Chandan
Do you mean escapism as a detachment from the reality of casteism, or
do you actually mean it as an attempt to escape from the oppression of casteism?
It makes a difference. The former would be an illusion but the latter an attempt
to break free.
I followed Mriduls use of
Umesh wonders about the difference between religious conversion and the
consequent change in a particular society.
Dr Ambedkar was a very erudite scholar. Highly intellectual men have been
drawn to Buddhism and have actually become converts from another established
religion. It is at the
Chandan
Youre asking how to achieve salvation to come out of the morass of
dysfunctional elected government,
rampant corruption at all levels of the society, growing insecurity of life and
property, undesirable immigration threatening the very existence of the State of
Assam, problems
Chandan
Im indeed happy that youve attended to my
submission immediately enough. But Im afraid you are wrong to hold that
Assams
salvation therefore lies in wrestling powers of the State from the Centre to its
own hands.
Youre saying that the IAS officers or the high-ups in the army are
I too agree with your succinct conclusion that Government should not make
requests for CMs or the dignitaries who go abroad on personal business. They
should make it a standing policy.
In the instant case, however, it is difficult to view it as a personal
case. When a Chief Minister is
The Modi issue was discussed threadbare. When I first wrote my email I
didnt know the situation well. Now that the full picture has emerged, let me
forward my opinion.
Want of democracy, absence of rule of law, violation of human rights etc
are to be found in every land; no country is
News about Assam
Todays Daily Telegraph has featured a
report by Peter Foster in Jorhat: I like a nice little pill in
the morning just to start the day you see.
http:www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/03/wtea19.xmlsS
It is about Assamese scientists experimentation at
Is Mridul Bhuyan sure that it was an official passport? It is indeed very
regrettablethat a Chief Minister in office has been refused visa to accept
an invitation inUSA.
There are two ways of obtaining a visa, one as a private citizen and the
other as an official or diplomat.
As I said earlier this is one of the lively subjects which provoke
discusion and debate. At the same time it is one which, I should think, ought
not generate acrimony as we're all going to establish facts and while our love
of the mother tongue is innate, we are all keen on its development.
INDEPENDENT ASSAM
Bhuban Baruah
Lakeside, UK
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It appears from the views expressed so far on D N Bezboruas article do not
materially differ from each other. So I do not feel like pursuing minor points.
But I would like to share my experience with netters as the erstwhile President
of the Asam Sahitya Sabha, London Chapter, on the
WHOSE LANGUAGE IS ASSAMESE?
Answer : Those who use it.
Para 1: This is a prologue to what is there next during the weeks to
come.
Para 2: Rams attraction has been drawn to the authors observation an
inexplicable and crippling sense of inferiority complex about our language ..
The
SOVEREIGNTY SANS TERRITORY
Dear Netters
Two of my esteemed netters requested me to write a comprehensive article on
Assams problems with particular reference to insurgency, sovereignty vs
autonomy etc. I typed out nine pages of it and discovered later that only
two pages were transmitted.
Dear Netters
Attached please.Sorry for the length (nine pages)
Bhuban
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These are very valuable observations indeed: what we NRAs could or should
do. Has anybody any information about the last meeting of the NRAs held at
Guwahati. So far as the hospital founded by a group of doctors from the UK, I
heard a horrible account.
Expect to hear netters' views on
Roshmi Mridu Paban
Our sincere congratulations and best wishes for a very long, happy wedded
life with all God's blessings.
Bhuban Baruah
Mrs Jeeban Baruah
Torreviaje, Spain
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Thanks to Bipin Bora for providing us with a lot of
essential information about ULFA which has hitherto been, I suppose, unavailable
to us netters. However it was not necessary for us to go through his comments on
each clause of the membership requirements to become a cadre. As a bible for
Dear Rajen
Im so glad that youve also read Tarquin Halls Elephant Graveyard. You
see, a person reading any kind of book is limited by his own upbringing,
interest, inquisitiveness and a host of other things. You quoted something
which I overlooked and concentrated on the ULFA episode. And
Rajen has squarely blamed the past Assam Government, in other words the
older Assamese leaders, administrators and the intelligentsia, for alienating the hill people of the
former larger State of Assam. I am sorry to place myself as a defendant of the
past regime. What I hold is that
the
Recently I read a delightful book Elephant Graveyard:A Story of the Hunt
for a Man-killing Indian Elephant by Tarquin Hall, a journalist working in the
New Delhi bureau of Associated
Press, not any longer though. The book was published by John Murray in 2000.
It has been rightly reviewed
Indian Style democracy in opinion polls before filing of candidates.
I doubt this piece of news has any bearing on realities. It is possible to
conduct opinion polls of a sort on the basis of the popularity of parties
in a particular constituency. Of course at times an individual might be
Dear Chandan
Thanks for asking for my views but I'am afraid I cannot comment on it.
Actuary itself, I've been told is a very tough subject and so far actuarists and
financial wizards have predicted only doom and gloom for the future generation
of UK. Recently a lot of people suffered as a
As a retired person in UK I would be glad to share views with
netters on retirement. The State Government of Assam has since raised the
ceiling on retirement from 58 to 59. Assam Government employees wanted
retirement at 60. The younger generation seems to have resented this because of
the
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