Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-22 Thread Rajen Barua
5) Regarding language, you are correct in interpreting my view: Assamese >language is older than Bengali. >Rajen Barua > > > >>From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-19 Thread Supratic Gupta
]]Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:07 PMTo: Supratic Gupta; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >I C, quite interesting. Let us see what you said   I don't remember claiming myself to be a theologist. So keep y

Re: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-19 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
thing much to say.         - Original Message - From: Supratic Gupta To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: RE: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >BTW, I am not sure who Shankaracharya was, I was talki

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-19 Thread Rajib Das
; >To: Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 18:23:54 -0400 > > > > >Rajib Das said on AssamNet: > >+ >+ UP, Bihar have lent themselves to irrelevance - their large

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Rajen Barua
seriously thinking about it. Second question is what good it will be politically and economically. Rajen Barua >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing As

RE: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Supratic Gupta
>BTW, I am not sure who Shankaracharya was, I was talking about Shankardev, and what did i say, he>introduced a branch that is less practised in India?  >No, I said: he introduced a new "sect" in Hinduism itself as he started believing in one God >and after he had deep discussions with the

RE: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
ion and twisting'? Hope nobody has failed and has to go thru the whole process again! I am not!! >From: "Supratic Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: RE: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?>Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:5

RE: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Supratic Gupta
Bhupen Hazarika once said that the three 'Ko's will always > remain in India: > >Kamakhya > >Kanya Kumarica & > >Kashmir. > > > >Let us hope that he is right. But only time will prove. > > > >Rajen Barua > > > > > >>From: &q

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Saurav Pathak
Rajib Das said on AssamNet: + + UP, Bihar have lent themselves to irrelevance - their large numbers in the + parliament, I believe, will soon be a problem in the federal structure of + the country. what exactly do you mean by "problem in the federal structure"? -- saurav

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Rajib Das
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:22:54 -0500 > >Barua: I only know one Madrasi :) very well, and he *most definitely* does >not think that India is separate

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2002-09-18 Thread Rajib Das
should not work for the Assamese. But then where would the vested interests go? >From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:

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2002-09-18 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
t like to give India only to Delhi and UP. >From: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:34:32 -0500 > >Alpana, >May be you will know better. >Do they al

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Saurav Pathak
Thus spake Alpana Sarangapani: + > Your quandary is on WHY it is important to mention the fact that Xonkordev + > developed the idea BEFORE he undertook the journeys to outside of Kamrup ( + > that is present day India), if the universality of his teachings is the + > most important issue.

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Chan Mahanta
n in India: >Kamakhya >Kanya Kumarica & >Kashmir. > >Let us hope that he is right. But only time will prove. > >Rajen Barua > > >>From: "Alpana Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAI

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-18 Thread Rajen Barua
k I know the answer to it also. :) > >Also, Assam got within India only in 1947 (or was it in 1950?), isn't it? > >With best wishes, >--Alpana. > > > > >----- Original Message - >From: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

RE: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Supratic Gupta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > > > I will give a small example: > > I have a Bengali relative (sort of), who came and told us stories > about old > Calcutta - her childhood days, her scientist uncle, about Bengali > lit

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > Alpana,> First, you are writing as is Assam and India are two different and separate > entities. However, it is not so.  Politically As

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Rajen Barua
ua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:14:20 -0500 > > > I understand your point. But I failed to understand how you say >Xongkordev > > brought India to Assam. > >May

Re: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
subsequently started in Assam. After twelve years of such wandering through many sacred.." - Original Message - From: "Chan Mahanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Alpana Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
> To: "Alpana Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > At 7:49 PM -0500 9/17/02, Alpana Sarangapani wrote: > >> the appeal in xonkordev's teaching

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Chan Mahanta
;- Original Message - >From: "Saurav Pathak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:30 AM >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
c: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on AssamNet: > > + > + This is an interesting discussion which re

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2002-09-17 Thread Chan Mahanta
ke. > >Bingo! > >Though I wonder why the denial syndrome is so common in these "universal" >believers. > > > > > >>From: Saurav Pathak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>CC: Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
ome >of us are trying to make. Bingo! Though I wonder why the denial syndrome is so common in these "universal" believers. >From: Saurav Pathak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: Rajen Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: R

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
Assam' is self contradictory. >Barua > >>From: "Alpana Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >>Date: Mon, 16 Sep

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Chan Mahanta
Very well said. At 11:37 AM -0400 9/17/02, Saurav Pathak wrote: >Utpal Brahma said on AssamNet: > >+ Under the above hypothesis, we the Bodos who are not >+ the followers of Vaishnavite Hinduism or any form of >+ Hinduism as pratised in North India are not Indianized >+ and hence are not

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Saurav Pathak
Utpal Brahma said on AssamNet: + Under the above hypothesis, we the Bodos who are not + the followers of Vaishnavite Hinduism or any form of + Hinduism as pratised in North India are not Indianized + and hence are not Indians. The same goes for Khasis, + Nagas, Garos, Mishings. Interestin

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Saurav Pathak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said on AssamNet: + + This is an interesting discussion which reminds me of an experience I had in + Indonesia. Indonesia, Java in particular, is full of Hindu temples. But a + number of Indonesians told me that while they are very proud of them, when + Indian visit

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Anjan K. Nath
eptember 17, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > > This is an interesting discussion which reminds me of an experience I had in > Indonesia. Indonesia, Java in particular, is full of Hindu temples. But a > number of Indonesians told me that while they

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread baruah
This is an interesting discussion which reminds me of an experience I had in Indonesia. Indonesia, Java in particular, is full of Hindu temples. But a number of Indonesians told me that while they are very proud of them, when Indian visitors come they feel ambivalent because, according to the

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-17 Thread Saurav Pathak
Rajen Barua said on AssamNet: + + I think that will be a better statement. More correctly, Xongkordev + travelled various parts of India, realised the essence of Vaishnavism and + created a completely new and revolutionary religious practice in his state + Assam the like of which is n

RE: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-16 Thread Rajen Barua
>From: "Supratic Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:55:36 +0900 > >I have not read the full discussion. But reading the text below, >would it not

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-16 Thread Rajen Barua
t; >To: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:55:10 -0500 > > > Many people do not know that Assam (Assamese for that matter) is a part >of > >

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2002-09-16 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
ndia. - Original Message - From: "Supratic Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: RE: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > I have not read the full discussion. But reading the text below,

Re: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-16 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: RE: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > I have not read the full discussion. But reading the text below, > would it not be more appropriate to say that he brought Vaishnavism > from India to Assam and tried to chang

RE: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-16 Thread Supratic Gupta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:14 PM > To: Rajen Barua; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > > > > I understand your point. But I failed to understand how you say > Xongkordev > > brought India t

Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam?

2002-09-16 Thread Alpana Sarangapani
:) Best wishes, --Alpana S. - Original Message - From: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Sankardeva responsible for indianizing Assam? > "But my point was: in order for these t