Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
But there is a big difference between calling somebody Apuni and Toi. We use some greeting which are not there or maybe in a more generalised form in English. As long as we talk in assamese we should try to maintain its beauty and more importantly when someone speaks in public to an elected representative he should maintain certain decorum. Now, have you seen a British greet a Knighted gentleman /peer without using Sir/Lord in the TV ? Prasenjit On 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of tumi as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of you in Assamese - Apuni, Tumi and Toi, and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used Apuni just for the show, it would have been artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled Ekap Half Chah. The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma TUMI all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him APUNI. After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam -- Prasenjit Chetia Atlanta, GA ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
You r right Mr. Chetia. But why should we look at the Brits. Lets see any Talk Show by the established National TV Channels. They never use "Tum" or "Tu". "Aap" is what they invariably use. Of course deviants r the channels like "V" or "MTV". But I believe "NE TV" is no " V" or "MTV". Muktikam PhukanPrasenjit Chetia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But there is a big difference between calling somebody "Apuni" and"Toi". We use some greeting which are not there or maybe in a moregeneralised form in English. As long as we talk in assamese we shouldtry to maintain its beauty and more importantly when someone speaks inpublic to an elected representative he should maintain certaindecorum.Now, have you seen a British greet a Knighted gentleman /peer withoutusing Sir/Lord in the TV ?PrasenjitOn 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of "tumi" as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of "you" in Assamese - "Apuni, Tumi and Toi", and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used "Apuni" just for the show, it wou! ld have been artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled "Ekap Half Chah". The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma "TUMI" all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him "APUNI". A! fter all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam -- Prasenjit ChetiaAtlanta, GA Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
Title: Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme I have no problem with that Prasenjit. However, I DO have a problem with the nauseating degree of these 'fake' and sometimes completely un-deserved courtesies that our people are either mired in, or are compelled to perpetuate. Just look the overuse and misuse of the 'honorable' or 'hon'ble' appellation, that abounds in the media, requiring the people to call address their servants, MLA's, MPs,Ministers--minor or major, tin-pot dictators of magistrates/hakims ad nauseum. It is yet another of those left-over colonial / imperial traits that help perpetuate that these folks are the 'bosses' of the people, instead of their real role in a democratic society--that of the 'servant of the people'. It is time to change that. If the British prefer to remain a monarchica society replete witheir sirs and lords and ladies, that is their choice. Why should the people of Assam follow those outdated and alien ways? At 8:16 AM +0100 8/19/05, Prasenjit Chetia wrote: Cda; These small formalities make up your bigger identity. Cheers!! prasenjit On 8/18/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. The emphasis should be on asking pertinent questions and getting forthright answers. I realize, we 'probaxis' have shed a lot of our traditional formalities, which many of our peers back in Assam might find uncouth and impolite. But be that as it may, the focus should be on the substance and not on the appearances and formalities. At 7:52 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of tumi as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of you in Assamese - Apuni, Tumi and Toi, and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used Apuni just for the show, it would have been artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled Ekap Half Chah. The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma TUMI all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him APUNI. After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam -- Prasenjit Chetia Atlanta, GA ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
C'da, However, I DO have a problem with the nauseating degree of these 'fake' and sometimes completely un-deserved courtesies that our people are either mired in, or are compelled to perpetuate. With this I agree. Last time at Guwahati, I wanted to touch base with an old friend of mine, who has now become a minister. When I called, the PA (probably an IAS) kick up the phone and 'robo dei, SAAR phone ot aise' That 'Saar' kind of intrigued me. But its not just ministers or bureaucrats. But if you look at Indian/Assamese society as a whole all the rickshaw wallahs, thela walla, dohbis call everyone else 'babu' or 'memshhib' - whether they deserve it or not. To that extent, this is a British holdover and the emphasis seems to be on eternal servitude. The English have always use 'Sir' or 'Ma'am' to address others (whether theyare knighted or benighted). In the US too, its pretty common. So, whats the difference between whats done in the West and in India. I think: In the West, they say 'Sir' or 'Ma'am' without meaning in, while in India a sense of servitude is attached to such terms.Just my thoughts. --Ram On 8/19/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no problem with that Prasenjit. However, I DO have a problem with the nauseating degree of these 'fake' and sometimes completely un-deserved courtesies that our people are either mired in, or are compelled to perpetuate. Just look the overuse and misuse of the 'honorable' or 'hon'ble' appellation, that abounds in the media, requiring the people to call address their servants, MLA's, MPs,Ministers--minor or major, tin-pot dictators of magistrates/hakims ad nauseum. It is yet another of those left-over colonial / imperial traits that help perpetuate that these folks are the ' bosses' of the people, instead of their real role in a democratic society--that of the 'servant of the people'. It is time to change that. If the British prefer to remain a monarchica society replete witheir sirs and lords and ladies, that is their choice. Why should the people of Assam follow those outdated and alien ways? At 8:16 AM +0100 8/19/05, Prasenjit Chetia wrote: Cda;These small formalities make up your bigger identity.Cheers!!prasenjitOn 8/18/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. The emphasis should be on asking pertinent questions and getting forthright answers. I realize, we 'probaxis' have shed a lot of our traditional formalities, which many of our peers back in Assam might find uncouth and impolite. But be that as it may, the focus should be on the substance and not on the appearances and formalities. At 7:52 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of tumi as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of you in Assamese - Apuni, Tumi and Toi, and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used Apuni just for the show, it would have been artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled Ekap Half Chah. The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma TUMI all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him APUNI. After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
Just look the overuse and misuse of the 'honorable' or 'hon'ble' appellation, that abounds in the media, requiring the people to call address their servants, MLA's, MPs,Ministers--minor or major, tin-pot dictators of magistrates/hakims ad nauseum. It is yet another of those left-over colonial / imperial traits that help perpetuate that these folks are the 'bosses' of the people, instead of their real role in a democratic society--that of the 'servant of the people'. I agree whole heartedly. Even if the politicians were doing what they are supposed to do -work forthe people, that is - it is ridiculous to hear people say "honorable" this "honorable" that. IMO, a "Mr." is enough as you would use for any human being, if you personally don't know him. And if Mr. Bhuyan knew Mr. Sharma from before and calls him 'tumi' otherwise (which apparently we are not clear about), it will be a 'bhekoo-bhaona' if he addresses him as 'aapuni' suddenly, just because they are in tv. If I become a famous person anytime, I would die in shame if one of my high schoolteachers (orone of my elderly neighbors)suddenly starts addressing me as 'apuni' - in public or in private. From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Prasenjit Chetia [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu, Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Assam] NE TV's "Ekap Half Chah" programmeDate: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:45:07 -0500 I have no problem with that Prasenjit. However, I DO have a problem with the nauseating degree of these 'fake' and sometimes completely un-deserved courtesies that our people are either mired in, or are compelled to perpetuate. Just look the overuse and misuse of the 'honorable' or 'hon'ble' appellation, that abounds in the media, requiring the people to call address their servants, MLA's, MPs,Ministers--minor or major, tin-pot dictators of magistrates/hakims ad nauseum. It is yet another of those left-over colonial / imperial traits that help perpetuate that these folks are the 'bosses' of the people, instead of their real role in a democratic society--that of the 'servant of the people'. It is time to change that. If the British prefer to remain a monarchica society replete witheir sirs and lords and ladies, that is their choice. Why should the people of Assam follow those outdated and alien ways? At 8:16 AM +0100 8/19/05, Prasenjit Chetia wrote: Cda;These small formalities make up your bigger identity.Cheers!!prasenjitOn 8/18/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. The emphasis should be on asking pertinent questions and getting forthright answers. I realize, we 'probaxis' have shed a lot of our traditional formalities, which many of our peers back in Assam might find uncouth and impolite. But be that as it may, the focus should be on the substance and not on the appearances and formalities. At 7:52 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of "tumi" as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of "you" in Assamese - "Apuni, Tumi and Toi", and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used "Apuni" just for the show, it would have been artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled "Ekap Half Chah". The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma "TUMI" all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him "APUNI". After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ:
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
Right, unless you use just the last name. Otherwise, after the introduction with the full name, it usually goes 'down' to the first name basis. we call everyone byfirst name at work.
What do you mean by "late" Dipung kaiti. He died? when and how? :)
Have a good one, C'da.
From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Assam] NE TV's "Ekap Half Chah" programmeDate: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:59:32 -0500
In order not to step on toes, or offend anyone, the worldwide trend in the English language today is to address an interviewee with their full name, without any appellation ( like Sri, Sir, Mr., Miss, Mrs. Ms etc.): Like Alpana Sarangapani, what do you really think Sondon Mohonto is up to in Assam Net? Or Charles Dickens, what'n the Dickens did you try to do to English society by writing Oliver Twist?
The same ethos is quite prevalent in Internet communications as well, as folks must have noticed.
NE TV too could adopt the tactic and start an interview of the late Dipung Kaiti as : Digompbor Pungta, is it true that you too are a native of Dokhin Jokaisuk, just across the hwla from Tilok Daktor's baari?
At 9:25 AM -0500 8/19/05, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
Just look the overuse and misuse of the 'honorable' or 'hon'ble'appellation, that abounds in the media, requiring thepeople to call address their servants, MLA's,MPs,Ministers--minor or major, tin-pot dictators of magistrates/hakimsad nauseum. It is yet another of those left-over colonial / imperialtraits that help perpetuate that these folks are the 'bosses'of the people, instead of their real role in a democraticsociety--that of the 'servant of the people'.
I agree whole heartedly. Even if the politicians were doing what they are supposed to do -work forthe people, that is - it is ridiculous to hear people say "honorable" this "honorable" that. IMO, a "Mr." is enough as you would use for any human being, if you personally don't know him.
And if Mr. Bhuyan knew Mr. Sharma from before and calls him 'tumi' otherwise (which apparently we are not clear about), it will be a 'bhekoo-bhaona' if he addresses him as 'aapuni' suddenly, just because they are in tv.
If I become a famous person anytime, I would die in shame if one of my high schoolteachers (orone of my elderly neighbors)suddenly starts addressing me as 'apuni' - in public or in private.
From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Prasenjit Chetia [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu, Dilip/Dil Deka [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Assam] NE TV's "Ekap Half Chah" programmeDate: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:45:07 -0500blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li{padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}
I have no problem with that Prasenjit.
However, I DO have a problem with the nauseating degree of these'fake' and sometimes completely un-deserved courtesies that our peopleare either mired in, or are compelled to perpetuate.
Just look the overuse and misuse of the 'honorable' or 'hon'ble'appellation, that abounds in the media, requiring thepeople to call address their servants, MLA's,MPs,Ministers--minor or major, tin-pot dictators of magistrates/hakimsad nauseum. It is yet another of those left-over colonial / imperialtraits that help perpetuate that these folks are the 'bosses'of the people, instead of their real role in a democraticsociety--that of the 'servant of the people'.
It is time to change that.
If the British prefer to remain a monarchica societyreplete witheir sirs and lords and ladies, that is their choice. Whyshould the people of Assam follow those outdated and alien ways?
At 8:16 AM +0100 8/19/05, Prasenjit Chetia wrote:
Cda;These small formalities make up your bigger identity.Cheers!!prasenjitOn 8/18/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. The emphasis should be on asking pertinent questions and gettingforthright answers. I realize, we 'probaxis' have shed a lot of our traditionalformalities, which many of our peers back in Assam might find uncouth andimpolite. But be that as it may, the focus should be on the substance and noton the appearances and formalities.
At 7:52 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of "tumi" aslong as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are threeaccepted forms of "you" in Assamese - "Apuni, Tumi andToi", and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used "Apuni" just for the show, it would havebeen artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip
Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagarfor some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TVcatering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programmeI saw was a Talk Show titled "Ekap Half Chah". The
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
Cda; It is not following the British. We have a tradition in place, and we didn't learn that from the British. And just that the ministers are corrupt or that they don't deserve that respect can't blow that tradition away. What the reporter did was just an example where a little too friendly attitude overlooked the age old tradition. Would you like to see something in public which try to blow up our traditional values of good manners. Who would ? There is fine line between disrespect and unintentional bad manners. If parents don't teach their siblings these values who would. If the reporter had done that intentionally and blasted Himanta Biswa Sarmah for his so called activities over the years , I would welcome that. But that wasn't the case here, he reflected the gradual errosion of our traditional values. Prasenjit On 8/19/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no problem with that Prasenjit. However, I DO have a problem with the nauseating degree of these 'fake' and sometimes completely un-deserved courtesies that our people are either mired in, or are compelled to perpetuate. Just look the overuse and misuse of the 'honorable' or 'hon'ble' appellation, that abounds in the media, requiring the people to call address their servants, MLA's, MPs,Ministers--minor or major, tin-pot dictators of magistrates/hakims ad nauseum. It is yet another of those left-over colonial / imperial traits that help perpetuate that these folks are the 'bosses' of the people, instead of their real role in a democratic society--that of the 'servant of the people'. It is time to change that. If the British prefer to remain a monarchica society replete witheir sirs and lords and ladies, that is their choice. Why should the people of Assam follow those outdated and alien ways? At 8:16 AM +0100 8/19/05, Prasenjit Chetia wrote: Cda; These small formalities make up your bigger identity. Cheers!! prasenjit On 8/18/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. The emphasis should be on asking pertinent questions and getting forthright answers. I realize, we 'probaxis' have shed a lot of our traditional formalities, which many of our peers back in Assam might find uncouth and impolite. But be that as it may, the focus should be on the substance and not on the appearances and formalities. At 7:52 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of tumi as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of you in Assamese - Apuni, Tumi and Toi, and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used Apuni just for the show, it would have been artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled Ekap Half Chah. The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma TUMI all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him APUNI. After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or
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I really do not see any problem in the use of "tumi" as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of "you" in Assamese - "Apuni, Tumi and Toi", and they areused as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyanused "Apuni" just for the show, it would have beenartificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled "Ekap Half Chah". The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma "TUMI" all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him "APUNI". After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
Title: Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme I agree. The emphasis should be on asking pertinent questions and getting forthright answers. I realize, we 'probaxis' have shed a lot of our traditional formalities, which many of our peers back in Assam might find uncouth and impolite. But be that as it may, the focus should be on the substance and not on the appearances and formalities. At 7:52 AM -0700 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of tumi as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of you in Assamese - Apuni, Tumi and Toi, and they areused as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyanused Apuni just for the show, it would have beenartificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled Ekap Half Chah. The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma TUMI all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him APUNI. After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
