Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-12 Thread Mike Shaw
​ On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:49 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Given some of the new instructions, such as LGZR, I wish IBM would publish a manual with a title like: What were the architects thinking of? Explanation of the reasons behind the instructions in the z

Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-12 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Mike Shaw quick...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:49 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Given some of the new instructions, such as LGZR, I wish IBM would publish a manual with a title like: What were the architects thinking of?

SIMD instructions uses; was Re: LZRG??? ....

2015-03-12 Thread Gary Weinhold
Tom Ross didn't explain it, but did say the compiler developer was quite enthusiastic about it. So we have to write a COBOL program, get the new compiler to generate the code, get a z13 and run z/XDC to see what the instruction actually does! Not too likely this week, I suppose. Gary Weinhold

Re: CE key

2015-03-12 Thread glen herrmannsfeldt
Here are pictures of the key switch: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Customer_Engineer_Key_Switch_for_IBM_S-360_computer,_view_1.JPG https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Customer_Engineer_Key_Switch_for_IBM_S-360_computer,_view_2.JPG

Re: SIMD instructions uses; was Re: LZRG??? ....

2015-03-12 Thread Fred . van . der . Windt
On Mar 12, 2015, at 18:31, Gary Weinhold weinh...@dkl.com wrote: Tom Ross didn't explain it, but did say the compiler developer was quite enthusiastic about it. So we have to write a COBOL program, get the new compiler to generate the code, get a z13 and run z/XDC to see what the

Re: CE key

2015-03-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:31:18 -0700, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote: If you're talking about the CE key that switched metering from customer to IBM, I have no idea. Those were a real pin-tumbler lock; Yes, that one. Also, I don't know if it would match the blank that ordinary locksmiths would sell.

Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-12 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I don't have any real understanding of this, but this is interesting:Every serious hacker sooner or later needs the popcount instruction. This population count instruction counts the set bits in a register, and is so useful that the NSA demands that all computers they purchase implement it in

Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-12 Thread Fred . van . der . Windt
Pages 7 to 8 of this presentation: https://share.confex.com/share/124/webprogram/Session16609.html Evidently the code with SIMD instructions is the equivalent of what the millicode does for SRST, but I may have misinterpreted what was said. Using the millicoded instruction is evidently