Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-14 Thread Martin Truebner
Jim, That's not quite true. I do understand what you said. Would Peters stmt be full* true if a problem state instructions... is inserted? * I used full to remove/nullify/void/falsify your use of the word quite. If this is wrong, I blame it on my lack of knowledge of the american

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-14 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:09:08 +0200, Martin Truebner mar...@pi-sysprog.de wrote: Jim, That's not quite true. I do understand what you said. Would Peters stmt be full* true if a problem state instructions... is inserted? * I used full to remove/nullify/void/falsify your use of the word

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Trübner
Everything has been said already. [Aside: No facility in recent memory has been more liberating to our programmers than the relative-immediate facility.] Y E S. -- Martin Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE more at http://www.picapcpu.de

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Truebner
Peter, simple rule of thumb: Talking about simple... would it be too much asking to insert (right behind the note about operation exception when not installed) the corresponding bit in STFLEs answer? -- Martin Pi_cap_CPU - all you ever need around MWLC/SCRT/CMT in z/VSE more at

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Shaw
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Martin Truebner mar...@pi-sysprog.dewrote: Peter, simple rule of thumb: Talking about simple... would it be too much asking to insert (right behind the note about operation exception when not installed) the corresponding bit in STFLEs answer? Marty: We

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-13 Thread Shane
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:52:31 -0400 Mike Shaw wrote: We started doing this exact thing in MVS/QuickRef's Assembler-oriented data base content. It does save time when you don't have to go hunt down the STFLE bits. A good example of that little extra that ISVs (and PCMs in another time) have to

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-13 Thread Jim Mulder
Peter Relson/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 10/13/2011 08:08:01 AM: 10/13/2011 07:35 PM Subject: Re: newer opcodes It is true that all z/OS releases can run on any z/Architecture-capable machine. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design That's not quite true. While it is true that all

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Relson
Not evil, just can't use them since the customer may not have the hardware support. The current program I am working on requires z/VSE 4 so I was attempting to use some of the halfword-imm stuff. I just picked the wrong instructions. So, again, back to using old instructions. I'm curious. Are

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-12 Thread Ray Mullins
On 2011-10-12 12:22, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 10/12/2011 5:08 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Our customers base is VSE. We have customers that are running (in production) old levels back as far as VSE 2.1. We have customers running hardware as far back as MP2000 boxes. Until last year, we actually had a

newer opcodes

2011-10-11 Thread Tony Thigpen
I do my major coding on my pc using the Dignus Assembler. I was moving some working source code to z/VM where production assemblies are performed and am having trouble finding the correct optcode table for the following instructions: CHSI MVHHI CHHSI We have the following HLASM installed: HLASM

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-11 Thread DAL POS RAPHAEL
-LIST@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Objet : newer opcodes I do my major coding on my pc using the Dignus Assembler. I was moving some working source code to z/VM where production assemblies are performed and am having trouble finding the correct optcode table for the following instructions: CHSI MVHHI CHHSI We

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Trübner
Tony, ZS4 does not work on our HLASM. But ZS4 is what you need. THe instructions you cited are all z10 (or more) First, what is the correct OPTABLE() setting for these instructions? answered Second, I thought the halfword-Imm instructions were available all the way back to the MP3000

Re: newer opcodes

2011-10-11 Thread Tony Thigpen
And I thought that even rel+imm are evil (at least that was the impression you left me with after our last conversaation about this very subject) Not evil, just can't use them since the customer may not have the hardware support. The current program I am working on requires z/VSE 4 so I was