Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-16 Thread Tobias Leicher
: Tobias Leicher <tobias.leic...@de.ibm.com> > Date: 16/02/2018 20:38 > Subject: Re: Solution OOP in HLASM > > Thanks Tobias. You bring up perception rather than reality. There > are several OOP languages and they all implement OOP so that it best > fits into that language.

Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-15 Thread Jon Perryman
Ze'ev and Richard, These are certainly good examples of using OOP in HLASM but they are a little difficult to explain how they relate to the tenets of OOP. Remember that it's the language that supports OOP in a way it chooses to support it. E.g. methods in C++ are usually functions. As a

Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-15 Thread Jon Perryman
OOP is extremely easy to use. It's the unnecessary terminology that makes it difficult. I believe wholeheartedly that HLASM and MVS are OOP but simply never justified using the terminology C programmers so strongly need. There are several people in this group who believe the opposite. I would

Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-15 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
JonYou could create objects in HLASM, as the other gentleman demonstrated with a real life example of a session manager.  If we define objects as some entity that could be probed in runtime, then by all means you could do that in HLASM.   I am not a great fan of oo languges as they tend to stand

Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-15 Thread Jon Perryman
-- reformatted message -- sorry I forgot to make it readable by this group. > Seymour Metz wrote: > Well, I've been programming since 1960, have used everything > from Assembler (D) to HLASM, write macros at the drop of a hat > and have consistently defended the use of assemblers, but > I have

Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-15 Thread Jon Perryman
> Seymour Metz wrote: > Well, I've been programming since 1960, have used everything > from Assembler > (D) to HLASM, write macros at the drop of a hat > and have consistently > defended the use of assemblers, but> I have to disagree with you. > While there is a good deal of theology in the

Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
serv.uga.edu Subject: Re: Solution OOP in HLASM Real HLASM OOP follows. Real HLASM programmers will understand why I said called certain people are incompetent when say things like "you can't HLASM OOP without jumping thru hoops", "another gem from Jon" and "doesn't und

Re: Solution OOP in HLASM

2018-02-13 Thread Jon Perryman
Real HLASM OOP follows. Real HLASM programmers will understand why I said called certain people are incompetent when say things like "you can't HLASM OOP without jumping thru hoops", "another gem from Jon" and "doesn't understand OOP". Clearly they only know basic HLASM but believe they are