[Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-19 Thread Bruce Ferrell
This probably a dead horse, but this showed up on another list I read and I thought it might be of interest. respectfully to all... Dear all, I have just put online a survey addressing the topic of good leadership in the open-source environment. Basically, my objective is to identify

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Lyman
aww BS, if you had any intention of sharing you would post it to bugs and let others out there at it, REGARDLESS of if it makes it into CVS. shaking head Chris Albertson wrote: It's a chicken and egg type thing. I'd contribute some work I've done. But why bother? It will just sit there

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-07 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's time to get more people helping. We *do* have a structure to Asterisk development that involves external help but what tends to happen is that people only care about their one bug or feature and as soon as that's taken care of, they

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-06 Thread Adam Hart
can we stop this crosspost - I'm sure everyone who subscribes to *-dev, subscribes to *-users One idea, have certain people in charge of certain areas of asterisk. In this case, a cluely developer who knows chan_sip.c well becomes the maintainer of it, instead of relying on Mark for all bugs.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-06 Thread asterisk
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 01:48:10PM +1100, Adam Hart wrote: can we stop this crosspost - I'm sure everyone who subscribes to *-dev, subscribes to *-users Sure, it's all the same to me. Already the thread has forked to one subthread on -dev and the other on -users. One idea, have certain people

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-06 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 22:33, Chris Albertson wrote: It's a chicken and egg type thing. I'd contribute some work I've done. But why bother? It will just sit there and never get used. If I thought my work might make it into CVS I'd be motivated but I see the chances of that are about

[Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-06 Thread Mark Spencer
the only thing that i can think at this point is that mark doesn't want sip to work through nat. Right, you've caught me. My goal has always been to prevent SIP from actually working in Asterisk, because deep down I really just want the whole project to fail. Or maybe it's because (a) I was

[Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-06 Thread Chris Albertson
What hapens in other Open Source projects is that someone gets _really_ frustrated and also happens to have some free time so he copies the current code into his own CVS system and runs with it. If he does a good job user follow. I imagine that if someone were to take the current code, apply

[Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-06 Thread asterisk
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:09:33PM -0600, Mark Spencer wrote: \begin{sarcasm} the only thing that i can think at this point is that mark doesn't want sip to work through nat. Right, you've caught me. My goal has always been to prevent SIP from actually working in Asterisk, because deep

[Asterisk-Users] Re: [Asterisk-Dev] benevolent dictatorship, or inclusive developper community?

2004-01-06 Thread Chris Albertson
It's a chicken and egg type thing. I'd contribute some work I've done. But why bother? It will just sit there and never get used. If I thought my work might make it into CVS I'd be motivated but I see the chances of that are about zip So I don't bother. My guess is I'm not the only one