Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2006-01-02 Thread Leif Neland
An interesting wrinkle I'm running against is that you cannot port numbers from a cellular carrier to a landline. i.e. I can't port my cell # to a DID on my PRI. I am not sure if this is just a line of bullshit fed to me from Bell Mobility (Canadian CDMA carrier) but I've not had the time to rea

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2006-01-02 Thread Leif Neland
Original Message From: "Ross C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'" Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:18 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away Thanks, but I'm looking fo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-31 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 14:54 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > However, Vonage did port it -- though it took them 3 months to do it. > And, more recently, Broad Voice got it from Vonage, though it took them > 6 months. Read the broadvoice user policy, if you port a number in only at their discretion can

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-31 Thread Janina Sajka
Andrew Kohlsmith writes: > An interesting wrinkle I'm running against is that you cannot port numbers > from a cellular carrier to a landline. i.e. I can't port my cell # to a DID > on my PRI. I am not sure if this is just a line of bullshit fed to me from > Bell Mobility (Canadian CDMA carrie

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread gw
ge- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of trixter aka Bret McDanel Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:59 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 15:41 -0600, Rich Adam

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 15:41 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: > > > So use call forwarding from the Telco, forward it to a VoIP DID, if you > > > lose > > > the VoIP DID, change the forwarding to another number. > > > > > > > I thought my local telco told me that if I were to do that, I would have > >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Rich Adamson
> > So use call forwarding from the Telco, forward it to a VoIP DID, if you lose > > the VoIP DID, change the forwarding to another number. > > > > I thought my local telco told me that if I were to do that, I would have > to pay them LD charges for each call that came in to that number. > > O

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 08:22:27PM +, Ron Wellsted wrote: > Within the UK, Number Portability between providers of the same type of > service is a legal requirement. Since we charge differently for calls > on landlines and mobiles, you cannot port mobile numbers to landlines or > landlines t

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Ron Wellsted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Novack wrote: > > > trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > >> On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 14:06 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: >> >> >>> On Friday 30 December 2005 13:23, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: >>> >>> CLECs and ILECs largely are requir

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Bogdan Moldovan
- Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 21:38 +0200, Bogdan Moldovan wrote: > Depending on the forward type. You could put conditional or > un-conditional forwarding. As far as I know some telcos are placing > restri

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread John Novack
trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 14:06 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Friday 30 December 2005 13:23, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: CLECs and ILECs largely are required to let you port your number (there are some potential issues that cna prevent that but ge

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Jerry Jones
Of course most carriers these days charge extra per call path. So how many simultaneous calls do you really need up? On Dec 30, 2005, at 1:55 PM, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 21:38 +0200, Bogdan Moldovan wrote: Depending on the forward type. You could put conditional o

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Jerry Jones
On Dec 30, 2005, at 1:48 PM, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 14:06 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Friday 30 December 2005 13:23, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: CLECs and ILECs largely are required to let you port your number (there are some potential issues that cna

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 21:38 +0200, Bogdan Moldovan wrote: > Depending on the forward type. You could put conditional or un-conditional > forwarding. As far as I know some telcos are placing restrictions on > conditional forwarding (and that depends on a case by case basis) but for > un-conditional

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 13:33 -0600, Ross C wrote: > Thanks Matt. > Are there limitations with call forwarding? For example, with Teliax's pay > as you go plan you can have a whole bunch of simultaneous calls (we had 12 > going the other day). So say we get 10 or 12 calls on our telco number that >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Brian Capouch
Matt Riddell wrote: So use call forwarding from the Telco, forward it to a VoIP DID, if you lose the VoIP DID, change the forwarding to another number. I thought my local telco told me that if I were to do that, I would have to pay them LD charges for each call that came in to that number.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 14:06 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Friday 30 December 2005 13:23, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > > CLECs and ILECs largely are required to let you port your number (there > > are some potential issues that cna prevent that but genereally that is a > > true statement)

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Bogdan Moldovan
ogdan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross C Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:34 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away Thanks Matt. Are there l

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Ross C
ubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away Ross C wrote: > Thanks, but I'm looking for information on porting numbers when the current > provider holding the numbers goes out of business and is unreachable. Can I > get the numbers? The business has had the same ph

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Matt Riddell
Ross C wrote: > Thanks, but I'm looking for information on porting numbers when the current > provider holding the numbers goes out of business and is unreachable. Can I > get the numbers? The business has had the same phone number for almost 30 > years and definitely can't lose the number due to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 30 December 2005 13:23, trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > CLECs and ILECs largely are required to let you port your number (there > are some potential issues that cna prevent that but genereally that is a > true statement). An interesting wrinkle I'm running against is that you cannot po

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Ross C
et McDanel Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 12:23 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 10:19 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: > Let's see if I can clearify this a little bit. > > Local

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 10:19 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: > Let's see if I can clearify this a little bit. > > Local Number Portability (LPN) is a little different for telco's then it > is for cell phone providers, with far more politics involved in the telco > implementation. > And ITSPs generally

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Ross C
Thanks for all the feedback. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:24 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away >

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Rich Adamson
> Thanks, but I'm looking for information on porting numbers when the current > provider holding the numbers goes out of business and is unreachable. Can I > get the numbers? The business has had the same phone number for almost 30 > years and definitely can't lose the number due to some provide

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Kerry Garrison
ED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Rich Adamson > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:34 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away > > > > Since the last hurricane (that lef

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Rich Adamson
> Since the last hurricane (that left me without phone for around 3 weeks > or so), I did the call forwarding (remote call forwarding in fact). > Lucky I was running in the cable modem in a couple of days (power restored). > I was planning in having two DIDs in distinct providers (I've been using

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Julio Arruda
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross C Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:47 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away I'm looking to move one of my clients to an Asterisk system and a VoIP provi

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Austin Denyer
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:23:30 -0600 Rich Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In very general terms (at least in the US), telephone numbers that are > considered portable can be moved from one itsp to another. However, > the move process generally involves a "request" for that move on the > par

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-30 Thread Rich Adamson
> > Anyone have any info on porting numbers away from a VoIP provider to a Ma > > Bell or the like? Thanks!! > > I had a friend port his from Bell ->VOIP ->VOIP. He had no trouble. > > I would use a couple providers. So this way if one goes down there is a > backup. In very general terms (a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-29 Thread Ross C
L PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard Burton Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:55 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away HI, > Anyone have any info on porting numbers away from a VoIP provide

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-29 Thread Leonard Burton
HI, > Anyone have any info on porting numbers away from a VoIP provider to a Ma > Bell or the like? Thanks!! I had a friend port his from Bell ->VOIP ->VOIP. He had no trouble. I would use a couple providers. So this way if one goes down there is a backup. -- Leonard Burton, N9URK [EMAIL P

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-29 Thread Ross C
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:14 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away   -- Personal opinion alert --   Do not route everything to an ITSP. At minimum keep a main PSTN line with call forwardi

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-29 Thread Kerry Garrison
List - Non-Commercial Discussion'Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away I’m looking to move one of my clients to an Asterisk system and a VoIP provider (Teliax, Voxee, ViaTalk, Voicepulse).  My concern is porting my client’s numbers to a VoIP provider.  Let’s say we get al

[Asterisk-Users] Semi-OT: porting numbers away

2005-12-29 Thread Ross C
I’m looking to move one of my clients to an Asterisk system and a VoIP provider (Teliax, Voxee, ViaTalk, Voicepulse).  My concern is porting my client’s numbers to a VoIP provider.  Let’s say we get all their numbers ported to Teliax (or Voxee or viatalk, etc.), everything is peachy for a y