Re: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-18 Thread Vincent
Brian, I am reluctant to post against you. However, for my previous 2 emails simply based on facts you as a third person have over-responded, with no good reasons, in the exact way that you commented me. YOU proved yourself, not me. Are you that guy the phone number is associated with? That'll

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-17 Thread Vincent
] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:01 -0500, Race Vanderdecken wrote: This list is owned by no one. Actually it is owned by Digium. It has many contributers though. When someone drives off the road into a ditch in a snow storm they last thing

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-17 Thread Brian Capouch
Vincent wrote: Hi all, You don't want to be fooled by - -. This guy has NO business ethic. When He refused to realize a business deal in which I agreed to pay for his coding help for me, will he personally pay for the hosting of the list? More interestingly, he mentioned in the list that he lives

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 01:39 am, Jonathan Hobbs wrote: Ignore them and they will go away. Only after polluting the list with incessant How do I do X? messages, and then only after subsequently polluting the list with asterisk sucks messages, and then all the bad karma of some clueless twitt who

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread asterisk phones
It's nice to see that some people think so highly of themselves and are above all others. It's quite amusing to watch people like you give thinking so highly of yourself and so little of others. In the spirit of Asterisk and Mark's organization-Digium, I certainly could understand why you aren't

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 10:48 am, asterisk phones wrote: It's nice to see that some people think so highly of themselves and are above all others. It's quite amusing to watch people like you give thinking so highly of yourself and so little of others. In the spirit of Asterisk and Mark's

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread C F
I really don't like speaking about it, since it's a topic that will never go away on it's own if we don't speak about it, nor will it go away if we do speak about it. Remember yesterdays wannabees are todays newbies, and todays newbies are tomorrows experts, and so on. The newbies that see this

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Lyman
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: *snipped Sometimes it is not the if you make a search, often is for new comers what to aks for. If you do not know the specific term, than you need to ask somewhere, and I think the list is good for that. *snipped no, if you don't know a 'term' you search for a glossary!

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sure. So say, I tried a Googling for X, but I didn't have any luck. Then I looked at pages X and Y in the Wiki, but couldn't find anything that related to my problem. People are a lot more sympathetic if you demonstrate

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, sometimes that works. But I've been on a lot of lists where newbies who thought they were being ignored started flaming people for not responding to them, writing posts badmouthing the project, hijacking other threads,

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Shanon Swafford
Jeff Busch wrote and I modified: *** Asterisk is a Open Source community and supported by volunteers. Please do the following before asking one of these volunteers for help. 1. Before asking a question, do a Google search 2. After a general

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Jonathan Hobbs
To paraphrase: Ignore them and they will go away. - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: March 4, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I

[OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Shadow Roldan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Race Vanderdecken Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:57 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! If some one would

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - Look, don't answer lame questions if you don't want to. Flaming a newb for being a newb is just mean. (they will eventually RTFM or STFW or they will fail). This is the way of the open source community. Here Here, I'm with you. I find it a constant source of

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff Busch
Discussion Subject: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! If you really want to do this the asterisk list is based off of mailman. You can learn all about mailman here: http://list.org/ But really, what are the odds that newbs will know to go there first? Are you

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 17:59 -0700, Paul Fielding wrote: - Original Message - Look, don't answer lame questions if you don't want to. Flaming a newb for being a newb is just mean. (they will eventually RTFM or STFW or they will fail). This is the way of the open source community.

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! The payment is not always monetary. Sometimes the payment is just a showing of sufficient effort. Back to your snow driver analogy, if the driver in the ditch is just waiting in the car for you to come over and push them out without even

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Ronald Wiplinger
Steven Critchfield wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 17:59 -0700, Paul Fielding wrote: - Original Message - Look, don't answer lame questions if you don't want to. Flaming a newb for being a newb is just mean. (they will eventually RTFM or STFW or they will fail). This is the way of

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Wiley Siler
Title: Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! Look. Lets make it simple. In most cases, if a guru is bored or not interested in a noob question they just ignore it. Personally, I find myself answering some of these specifically because I am

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-02 Thread Race Vanderdecken
Arrgh, Why should I answer a Newbie question, they are thick! Why is it so difficult to just ignore any question with Newbie in it? Everyone has to start somewhere. At least the newbie found the list. The worse you can do is kick sand in their face. No newbie's means no new customers or

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-02 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:01 -0500, Race Vanderdecken wrote: This list is owned by no one. Actually it is owned by Digium. It has many contributers though. When someone drives off the road into a ditch in a snow storm they last thing they need is someone telling them they should have invested

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-02 Thread Dave Cotton
On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:01 -0500, Race Vanderdecken wrote: Why is it so difficult to just ignore any question with Newbie in it? Because if nobody reads their questions they won't get any answers, and until you read the question you don't know if it is an idiot question. Everyone has to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-02 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 2, 2005 11:27 am, Steven Critchfield wrote: As a person who spent 9 hours in traffic last winter just to drive 15 miles due to idiots who should have just stayed home, I think your analogy breaks down. At some point, you either need to learn to drive or you pay someone else to

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-02 Thread Race Vanderdecken
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:28 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:01 -0500, Race

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-02 Thread Geoff Scott
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:01:38 -0500, Race Vanderdecken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When someone drives off the road into a ditch in a snow storm they last thing they need is someone telling them they should have invested in snow chains and defensive driving lessons before leaving the house.