Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-30 Thread Femi
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Weinberger Sent: 29 July 2008 15:26 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2008 18

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-29 Thread Stephan Weinberger
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2008 18:54 schrieb Al Baker: This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern software development. CISCO software is developed in a CMM environment. It has a formal test methodology and uses Automated Testing on EACH new release to ensure

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread J. Oquendo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Comments inline Al lists wrote: | I agree, No manager gets fired even if a Cisco Call Manager goes south. | that's not the case with Asterisk. | With limited experience that i have with both, i hit more bugs using | Asterisk than a CCM, but this is

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread Al Baker
Quote Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not worse. This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern software development. CISCO software is developed in a CMM

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread Benoit Plessis
Al Baker a écrit : Quote Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not worse. This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern software development. CISCO software is

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread Patrick
Al Baker wrote: Quote Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not worse. This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern software development. CISCO software

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread Alex Balashov
Al Baker wrote: Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not worse. This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern software development. CISCO software is

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread asterisk
- Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk Quote Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not worse. This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
Do say no more, thank you Alex i think a majority of users here think the same, i suspect that Alan Baker is the kind of person who defends his position no matter what it takes, and facts dont change that much, look at other topic at this list here 'Cisco Call Manager to Asterisk conversion' Same

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-25 Thread Senad Jordanovic
Patrick wrote: Al Baker wrote: Quote Yet amazingly (if this is, indeed, a source of amazement for you), CCM and other Cisco software can be just as buggy as anything OSS, if not worse. This is simply NOT TRUE and shows a complete lack of understanding of modern software development.

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-24 Thread T G
. - Original Message - From: Benoit Plessis To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:10:50 +0200 voip crazy a écrit : Hello all, A client of us, is thinking to migrate their actual

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-24 Thread T G
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:59:24 -0400 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:52 AM, voip crazy wrote: Hello all, A client of us, is thinking to migrate their actual PBX to a Cisco CallManager. We want to sell him an asterisk box to complement

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-24 Thread Alex Balashov
T G wrote: I'm a CCIE and CCVP. I have worked in the Cisco TSBU on both CCM and Telepresence systems I have two IP patents for the VoiP Lite protocols and have been designing and building OSS IPBXs for companies including Google going back to 2001. I'm not mentioning any of that to be

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-24 Thread Senad Jordanovic
T G wrote: I'm a CCIE and CCVP. I have worked in the Cisco TSBU on both CCM and Telepresence systems I have two IP patents for the VoiP Lite protocols and have been designing and building OSS IPBXs for companies including Google going back to 2001. I'm not mentioning any of that to be

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-24 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
- From: Benoit Plessis To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:10:50 +0200 voip crazy a écrit : Hello all, A client of us, is thinking to migrate their actual PBX to a Cisco CallManager. We

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-24 Thread Al lists
I agree, No manager gets fired even if a Cisco Call Manager goes south. that's not the case with Asterisk. With limited experience that i have with both, i hit more bugs using Asterisk than a CCM, but this is not relevant to your final answer. If you can afford CCM, and you can live with less

[asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread voip crazy
Hello all, A client of us, is thinking to migrate their actual PBX to a Cisco CallManager. We want to sell him an asterisk box to complement the Cisco PBX. I think to use asterisk as a Voicemail server (Replazing the Cisco Unity) Has asterisk all the functionalities to replace a CIsco Unity

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:52 AM, voip crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, A client of us, is thinking to migrate their actual PBX to a Cisco CallManager. We want to sell him an asterisk box to complement the Cisco PBX. I think to use asterisk as a Voicemail server (Replazing the Cisco

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Benoit Plessis
voip crazy a écrit : Hello all, A client of us, is thinking to migrate their actual PBX to a Cisco CallManager. We want to sell him an asterisk box to complement the Cisco PBX. I think to use asterisk as a Voicemail server (Replazing the Cisco Unity) Has asterisk all the functionalities to

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread omar parihuana
Hi, I don't use asterisk since 1.2.x version and never deployed an big project with Asterisk, so I don't know if currently Asterisk can replace to Cisco Unity as Voice Mail, but Cisco Unity is not only for voice mail the main objective is to be part of all Unified Communications infrastructure.

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread matt
Call me crazy, but why are you so keen on selling them an Asterisk box when you don't even know if its capable of doing what you want to sell it for? thats kinda scray actually. -- Matt http://www.mattgwatson.ca On 7/22/08, voip crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, A client of us, is

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Benoit Plessis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Call me crazy, but why are you so keen on selling them an Asterisk box when you don't even know if its capable of doing what you want to sell it for? I won't, i had the same felling ... thats kinda scray actually. Yep

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
At this stage connectivity is great between asterisk -- sipX(3.8) -- Exchange UM And still i dont see the features needed. 2008/7/22 Benoit Plessis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Call me crazy, but why are you so keen on selling them an Asterisk box when you don't even know

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Alex Balashov
voip crazy wrote: Hello all, A client of us, is thinking to migrate their actual PBX to a Cisco CallManager. We want to sell him an asterisk box to complement the Cisco PBX. I think to use asterisk as a Voicemail server (Replazing the Cisco Unity) Has asterisk all the functionalities to

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Alex Balashov schrieb: The question is: 1. What are you trying to do? 2. Can Asterisk do it? 3. Can Asterisk do it well? 4. Can Asterisk do it at the scale, volume and scope you're looking for? The question is NOT: 1. Is Asterisk basically like a free version of CallManager?

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread C. Savinovich
:15 PM To: Asterisk Users Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk Alex Balashov schrieb: The question is: 1. What are you trying to do? 2. Can Asterisk do it? 3. Can Asterisk do it well? 4. Can Asterisk do it at the scale, volume and scope you're looking for? The question

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Jason Aarons (US)
Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk It's amazing... the man starts the thread with a simple question: Can anybody tell him if Asterisk can do the same things that the Cisco Unity Server can do?, if it can do some better, some the same, and/or some

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Rob Hillis
Philipp Kempgen wrote: Come on. People want simple answers. So: Can Asterisk duplicate CallManager? [y/n] *scnr* I think for questions like this, we should always consider the m (maybe) option. :) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by

Re: [asterisk-users] Cisco vs Asterisk

2008-07-22 Thread Alex Balashov
Rob Hillis wrote: Philipp Kempgen wrote: Come on. People want simple answers. So: Can Asterisk duplicate CallManager? [y/n] *scnr* I think for questions like this, we should always consider the m (maybe) option. :) Or my preferred approach: Yes means no and no means yes. Can