Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-29 Thread Mikhail Lischuk
Internet. Senseless and merciless A E [Gmail] wrote 29.03.2012 10:28: Wow! ...all the poor guy wanted to know was if there was any tool available for normalization of carrier rate sheets! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-29 Thread A J Stiles
On Wednesday 28 March 2012, C. Savinovich wrote: The Way to make money is to help folks use the open source items in the most efficient manner Nobody wants to pay me $2,000 to install and configure A2billing, which in my view, is a fairly low price for my time. There are people who do that

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-29 Thread Markus
Am 28.03.2012 20:17, schrieb C. Savinovich: The Way to make money is to help folks use the open source items in the most efficient manner Nobody wants to pay me $2,000 to install and configure A2billing, which in my view, is a fairly low price for my time. There are people who do that for

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-29 Thread Patrick Lists
On 03/29/2012 03:47 PM, Markus wrote: I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of people who would be happy to pay money for a better a2billing. Including myself :) Have you looked at jbilling.com ? It's F/OSS with commercial support. Regards, Patrick --

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-28 Thread A E [Gmail]
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: Hi, this question is not Asterisk specific, but since there are so many experts present on this list, maybe its OK to ask anyways. I'm having a hard time normalizing rate sheets from different providers. What I mean with

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-28 Thread Alex Balashov
We solve this problem for our customers all the time, in various situationally-specific ways. But yes, we are not really in a position to genericise it and give it away. It's not because we are greedy. The time and resources just aren't there. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-28 Thread Alex Balashov
On 03/28/2012 03:15 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: Times change -- the way to deal with that is to adapt I don't think you'll get any serious disagreement on that from anyone here. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 235 E Ponce de Leon Ave Suite 106 Atlanta, GA 30030 Tel:

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-16 Thread Markus
Am 16.03.2012 04:14, schrieb Ast Coder: I would be more interested in a system where quality routes are tested with different providers because rate really doesn't matter if a call can't be placed or if a destination is a fake one. We have seen many fake destinations with top tier providers but

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-16 Thread Don Kelly
: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:47 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization Am 16.03.2012 04:14, schrieb Ast Coder: I would be more interested in a system where quality routes are tested with different providers because rate

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread SamyGo
could MS-Excel possibly be the easiest way to do that normalization ! just merge two rate sheets put some formulas in there and use it in your A2billing or XYZ tool ! On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Ast Coder asteriskcod...@gmail.comwrote: A2Billing doesn't do that. A2Billing in fact has a

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread Markus
With like 10 different ratesheets from 10 different providers, of which many change their rates every few days, manually doing it in Excel is too time consuming... Am 15.03.2012 07:26, schrieb SamyGo: could MS-Excel possibly be the easiest way to do that normalization ! just merge two rate

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Thursday 15 Mar 2012, Markus wrote: With like 10 different ratesheets from 10 different providers, of which many change their rates every few days, manually doing it in Excel is too time consuming... Is it possible to get samples? I'd be interested in looking into developing a script that

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread Markus
Am 15.03.2012 17:20, schrieb Raj Mathur (राज माथुर): On Thursday 15 Mar 2012, Markus wrote: With like 10 different ratesheets from 10 different providers, of which many change their rates every few days, manually doing it in Excel is too time consuming... Is it possible to get samples? I'd

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread Ast Coder
I would be more interested in a system where quality routes are tested with different providers because rate really doesn't matter if a call can't be placed or if a destination is a fake one. We have seen many fake destinations with top tier providers but they had the best rates so the strategy to

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread Alex Balashov
Our system just rolls over until it finds a carrier that will take it. Up to 30 different routes are supported, and rollover is pretty instantaneous in most cases. -- This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies for brevity and errors. Alex Balashov - Principal

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread SamyGo
So, maybe a subscription service where a dialler system continuously tests routes with a list of 10 providers so that it's established which routes actually work and then allow that data to be downloaded for usage. I think that it may not be humanly possible and also not possible to have a

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread Don Kelly
: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization So, maybe a subscription service where a dialler system continuously tests routes with a list of 10 providers so that it's established which routes actually work and then allow that data to be downloaded for usage. I think that it may not be humanly

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread SamyGo
List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization ** ** So, maybe a subscription service where a dialler system continuously tests routes with a list of 10 providers so that it's established which routes actually work and then allow that data

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-15 Thread SamyGo
] *On Behalf Of *SamyGo *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:45 PM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization ** ** So, maybe a subscription service where a dialler system continuously tests routes with a list of 10

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-14 Thread Benny Amorsen
Markus unive...@truemetal.org writes: Does such a thing exist? How does a2billing do it? It should be pretty easy in an AGI. If you can afford a linear lookup per call, just grep through the array of prefixes to find the ones matching a particular call, then pick the cheapest from the results.

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-14 Thread Markus
Am 15.03.2012 00:35, schrieb Benny Amorsen: Markusunive...@truemetal.org writes: Does such a thing exist? How does a2billing do it? It should be pretty easy in an AGI. If you can afford a linear lookup per call, just grep through the array of prefixes to find the ones matching a particular

Re: [asterisk-users] Rate sheet normalization

2012-03-14 Thread Ast Coder
A2Billing doesn't do that. A2Billing in fact has a lot of shortcomings one of which is this exact issue. I would suggest running rate sheets against each other for finding true LCR and then only uploading the rates that are cheaper into the system. In most cases there are not such high