Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-11-02 Thread adamk
Hi guys, i've seen this too, nagios woke me up because it was an extremely high volume of tries. I took a peek into the logs and saw that the attacker's script was trying extensions from 1 to and then random names. I can see the log in the messages file that several attempts failed

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-11-01 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 11:39 -0600, Joel Maslak wrote: To guess an 8 character (which is short) password that consists of random upper case, lower case, numbers, and 10 symbols (there are more you can use if you want), the average number of passwords that you would have to try to get in is:

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-11-01 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
Unsuccessful attempts are recorded, however SIP-s is not easily doable on asteridk 1.4. I tried once without any success. Maybe somebody who has successfully implemented it can write a little how-to on it. Zeeshan A Zakaria -- www.ilovetovoip.com www.pbxforall.com (beta) On 2010-11-01 4:48 AM,

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-11-01 Thread sean darcy
On 10/31/2010 11:26 AM, Joel Maslak wrote: I suspect even munin would provide you such options. Not to mention any more capable monitor. I already have a monitor (tied into nagios, which pages me if my fraud thresholds are exceeded), but I feel that is probably beyond

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-11-01 Thread Nicolas Ross
I just wanted to add my voice to this attack. I saw the morning that I had 200+ distinct ips since the weekend. I used a small perl script that blocks failed usernames and passwords at iptables level I found thei morning :

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 07:33:23PM -0600, Joel Maslak wrote: The CPU usage is trivial to deny them. As is the bandwidth usage, if you are not sitting on a slowish broadband connection. s/slow/assymetric/ Sure blocking doesn't hurt, but does the help it provides exceed the downsides

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread dotnetdub
On 30 October 2010 19:28, Zeeshan Zakaria zisha...@gmail.com wrote: My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it is blocking about 1 IP address every few minutes. Just wondering if

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 01:43:49PM -0600, Joel Maslak wrote: Is there really any benefit to blocking these, if you use good passwords? Regardless of any threat from those attacks succeeding, they completely saturated the uplink in our ADSL-connected

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Joel Maslak
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 07:33:23PM -0600, Joel Maslak wrote: The CPU usage is trivial to deny them. As is the bandwidth usage, if you are not sitting on a slowish broadband connection. s/slow/assymetric/ A

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread jon pounder
I already have a monitor (tied into nagios, which pages me if my fraud thresholds are exceeded), but I feel that is probably beyond the abilities of most of the people experiencing call fraud. The people who know what they are doing with Unix and Asterisk are generally not the victims

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Mark Deneen
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote: If these are mobile users, I hope they never use any public networks (hotels, starbucks) where other subscribers can do things like ARP attacks to do MITM (and steal your calls; it might not be happening today, but it

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010, Joel Maslak wrote: For me, monitoring outbound call volume makes a lot more sense. I would love to see an easy to use, out of the box method to alert me if more than x number of erlangs* are exceeded within a five minute, sixty minute, and one day time period. For

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread jon pounder
On 10/31/2010 11:39 AM, Mark Deneen wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Joel Maslakjmas...@antelope.net wrote: If these are mobile users, I hope they never use any public networks (hotels, starbucks) where other subscribers can do things like ARP attacks to do MITM (and steal your

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Joel Maslak
On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com wrote: This only tells you after it is way too late that you now have upstream bills to wrangle with your carriers about, or (like in my case) that your balance is now depeleted, if it trips anything at all. In my very recent

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Joel Maslak
On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Mark Deneen mden...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote: If these are mobile users, I hope they never use any public networks (hotels, starbucks) where other subscribers can do things like ARP attacks to do

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread C F
Like I said before RUBBISH. One should just ban/block IPs that are attacking you and not let them connect at all. Not just protect against them with fancy passwords. BTW, even your fancy passwords are breakable, can't wait for the day that you'll wake up and smell the coffee. On Sun, Oct 31, 2010

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Joel Maslak
On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:40 AM, jon pounder j...@inline.net wrote: what are you using that is tied to nagios ? I'll package it up next week and make it available. Basically, I use nrpe to call a shell script that looks at the last five minutes, 60 minutes, and 1440 minutes of a asterisk -rx

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread C F
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com wrote: This only tells you after it is way too late that you now have upstream bills to wrangle with your carriers about, or (like in my case) that your

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Joel Maslak
To guess an 8 character (which is short) password that consists of random upper case, lower case, numbers, and 10 symbols (there are more you can use if you want), the average number of passwords that you would have to try to get in is: (72^8) / 2 = 361,102,068,154,368 guesses Over a 10 mb/s

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread C F
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote: To guess an 8 character (which is short) password that consists of random upper case, lower case, numbers, and 10 symbols (there are more you can use if you want), the average number of passwords that you would have to

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread jon pounder
On 10/31/2010 12:58 PM, Joel Maslak wrote: On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:40 AM, jon pounderj...@inline.net wrote: what are you using that is tied to nagios ? I'll package it up next week and make it available. Basically, I use nrpe to call a shell script that looks at the last five

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Niles Ingalls
On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it is blocking about 1 IP address every few minutes. Just wondering if anybody else is

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Niles Ingalls ni...@atheos.net wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it is blocking

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Niles Ingalls ni...@atheos.net wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it is blocking

[asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it is blocking about 1 IP address every few minutes. Just wondering if anybody else is also experiencing unusually increased hack attempts today?

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Bruce Komito
Me too. From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Zeeshan Zakaria Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack My main

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Warren Selby
I'm experiencing this on one of my clients servers. The attack is ongoing. Thanks, --Warren Selby On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria zisha...@gmail.com wrote: My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Joel Maslak
Is there really any benefit to blocking these, if you use good passwords? On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Warren Selby wcse...@selbytech.com wrote: I'm experiencing this on one of my clients servers. The attack is ongoing. Thanks, --Warren Selby On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Zeeshan

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Stuart Sheldon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 We are also seeing an increase in attacks. And yes, there is a benefit to blocking them. They tend to go away if you have them restricted, where if you let them go at it, they will sit on your host for sometimes hours. Stu On 10/30/2010 12:43 PM,

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread jon pounder
On 10/30/2010 04:07 PM, Stuart Sheldon wrote: any registry of abusers like for spam ? any list of complete ip ranges for countries where abuse is rampant to block ? I am getting sick of the one offs and ready to start blocking big chunks of address space. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 14:28 -0400, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it is blocking about 1 IP address every few minutes. Just wondering if anybody else is

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Cary Fitch
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Hans Witvliet Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 6:11 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack On Sat, 2010-10-30

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread C F
You kidding? On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote: Is there really any benefit to blocking these, if you use good passwords? On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Warren Selby wcse...@selbytech.com wrote: I'm experiencing this on one of my clients servers. The

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 01:43:49PM -0600, Joel Maslak wrote: Is there really any benefit to blocking these, if you use good passwords? Regardless of any threat from those attacks succeeding, they completely saturated the uplink in our ADSL-connected office. What are they after, anyway? Merely

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Joel Maslak
No. It seems that opening up some sort of automatic blocking could cause an attacker forging packets to block legitimate endpoints. It also seems like they won't get in with good passwords, so it isn't actually accomplishing something to worry about the script kiddies if you have good

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Joel Maslak
Ah, that makes sense - I probably would restrict to only known endpoints by IP address if I has only DSL bandwidth. But blocking attackers makes sense if that isn't an option. Yes, they are after cheap calls. On Oct 30, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Sat,

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Zeeshan Zakaria
My count has reached 100 for the day. The server serves doesn't serve international calls anyways, I wonder how would it benefit any hacker in any way. -- Zeeshan Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote: No. It seems that opening up some sort of automatic

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Barry Miller
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 03:23:52AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 01:43:49PM -0600, Joel Maslak wrote: Is there really any benefit to blocking these, if you use good passwords? Regardless of any threat from those attacks succeeding, they completely saturated the uplink

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Andrew Latham
They have agreements for termination to locations with high rates. These types of attacks happen on servers that fit a digital signature. With certain ports or certain versions of software on those ports. Yes the Art of War is required reading for todays systems administration professionals...

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Warren Selby
To me it seems the real question is What is going on today?. I normally get eight to ten asterisk-related fail2ban alerts a day between a few client sites - today I've received at least 10 times that many attacks on just one site. These are all coming in from different ip addresses, a new one

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread jon pounder
On 10/30/2010 11:25 PM, Warren Selby wrote: To me it seems the real question is What is going on today?. I normally get eight to ten asterisk-related fail2ban alerts a day between a few client sites - today I've received at least 10 times that many attacks on just one site. These are all

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread John Ervin
30, 2010 11:29 AM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack My main asterisk server is under unusual heavy attack, and so far Fail2Ban has blocked about 30 IPs, from various different countries. At this time it is blocking about

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread Stuart Sheldon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/30/2010 08:25 PM, Warren Selby wrote: To me it seems the real question is What is going on today?. I normally get eight to ten asterisk-related fail2ban alerts a day between a few client sites - today I've received at least 10 times that

Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack

2010-10-30 Thread C F
One word: Rubbish On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote: No.  It seems that opening up some sort of automatic blocking could cause an attacker forging packets to block legitimate endpoints. It also seems like they won't get in with good passwords, so it