Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread David Boyd
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 10:51 -0600, Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Saturday 15 December 2007 10:02:23 Rob Hillis wrote: One of the biggest barriers to upgrading are the number of little gotchas in syntax changes that can make an upgrade from 1.2 to 1.4 quite painful. After the pain I went

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Olle E Johansson
All I can say is with 1.6, if a change is made that causes something that worked in 1.4 not to work in 1.6, please think twice, three times or four times before making the change, or making the change in such a way that it won't break dialplan stuff from 1.4. Our policy is to never

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 06:11:47PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote: I wonder if there are any major obstacles for upgrading. From our perspective I'd have to say package management. We manage a *lot* of asterisk boxes at client locations at the end of DSL connections. We have a schedule to

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Ira
At 10:14 AM 12/15/2007, you wrote: So Digium, (I address the company since Tilghman now works for you) do you have any plans to query the user community and determine what a typical end user of the product needs? With the knowledge and skill that exists in your organization it would seem trivial

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello All , On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Johansson Olle E wrote: Friends in the Asterisk community, I'm kind of interested in the slow uptake of Asterisk 1.4. Between 1.2 and 1.4 there's been a lot of important development. New code cleanups, optimization, new functions. I realize that 1.4

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Dovid B
When Digium starts using 1.4 in ABE then I would consider using it in a production environment. All I ever hear is soon, and I have heard that for months if not the whole year. Until Digium itself is comfortable selling and supporting this version, then neither am I. Steve, That's very

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Dovid B
If anything broke from the transition from 1.2 to 1.4, it is because you were using something that was deprecated in 1.2. What we had attempted to do in deprecation modes was to print the warning ONCE for each deprecated operation, per Asterisk startup. I think that this was much too

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Tilghman Lesher wrote: If anything broke from the transition from 1.2 to 1.4, it is because you were using something that was deprecated in 1.2. After thinking about it for a while this is not true. Well, it's true for the dialplan. Changing CALLERIDNUM to CALLERID(num) is easy. But i guess

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Ron Arts
Johansson Olle E wrote: Friends in the Asterisk community, I'm kind of interested in the slow uptake of Asterisk 1.4. Between 1.2 and 1.4 there's been a lot of important development. New code cleanups, optimization, new functions. I realize that 1.4 at release time wasn't ready for release,

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Steve Totaro
- Original Message - From: Ira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old! At 10

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Saturday 15 December 2007 13:50:35 Ira wrote: A perfect example is the new dial plan function array(), it has nothing to do with arrays, doesn't accomplish anything useful that couldn't have been done by allowing commas in set(), or calling it setmany(), and means if real arrays ever get

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Lyle Giese
Olle E Johansson wrote: All I can say is with 1.6, if a change is made that causes something that worked in 1.4 not to work in 1.6, please think twice, three times or four times before making the change, or making the change in such a way that it won't break dialplan stuff from 1.4.

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Rob Hillis
You've hit the nail on the head with the crux of the pain I went through. Finding stuff that was broke that I didn't realise was broke until someone bothered to tell me about it. I'm sure everyone is familiar with just how often users report problems caused by themselves, but don't report stuff

Re: [asterisk-users] Upgrade to Asterisk 1.4 - it's one year's old!

2007-12-15 Thread Olle E Johansson
My biggest gripe is that everything loaded and seemed to work. A day later we found this did not work and discovered a syntax change. A day later something else did not work, an other syntax change. Why isn't there some pre-processor to check the syntax of the config files? Would

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