RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Alexander Lopez
Unless you're going for some kind of distance record, standard Cat5 will work without any issue on any modern installation. As I said, I'm pretty sure (not 100%, but close) that the T1 specification is only Cat3, since it's standard BellCore wire and they don't run your T1 loops (which

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Alexander Lopez
Ever looked at the underground cable in the street outside your building? If it's more than 20 years old, it's probably paper-insulated gel-filled cable, with an _extremely_ thin amount of insulation between the conductors and _zero_ insulation between the pairs. T1s seem to work just fine

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 24 April 2006 12:39, Alexander Lopez wrote: And if you don't believe the 'high-end' part brush up against a 66-block while your well grounded, you will be singing in the high-end!!! At that voltage I think the differential created by the twists would cancel anything including small

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Michael Collins
I've never bothered to check to see if cat5 cables use the appropriate mating twisted pairs or not. Since the pinouts are different for cat5 vs T1 cables, I'd have to guess a single strand is used from two different twisted pair groups. That wouldn't be cool, but in short runs it probably

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Alexander Lopez wrote: 6-8 spans? That's the number that I have been trying to get, and why the limit. Is it X-talk? I think so. I've had clients before who had to have spans brought in via different routes even though the pairs in the underground cable were in otherwise acceptable condition.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 24 April 2006 13:30, Michael Collins wrote: IIRC, standard Ethernet uses pairs 12 and 36. The color scheme on 568B is 12 = white/orange pair, 36 = white/green pair Most Ethernet cables then have the white/blue pair on 45, and white/brown on 78. Close. 10/100mbps Ethernet uses

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Bart Fisher
] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Insulation (especially such thin insulation) does

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Rich Adamson
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 24 April 2006 13:30, Michael Collins wrote: IIRC, standard Ethernet uses pairs 12 and 36. The color scheme on 568B is 12 = white/orange pair, 36 = white/green pair Most Ethernet cables then have the white/blue pair on 45, and white/brown on 78. Close.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 24 April 2006 16:13, Rich Adamson wrote: A 'real' T1 cable would use a twisted pair for pins 1 2 and another twisted pair for 4 5. Looks like a typical cat5 straight-through cable uses twisted pairs straight across pins 1 through 8. Nope. A cable wired for ethernet and a cable

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Shielding of T1/E1 cables WAS RE: Pinoutsfor T1/E1 crossover

2006-04-24 Thread Rich Adamson
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 24 April 2006 16:13, Rich Adamson wrote: A 'real' T1 cable would use a twisted pair for pins 1 2 and another twisted pair for 4 5. Looks like a typical cat5 straight-through cable uses twisted pairs straight across pins 1 through 8. Nope. A cable wired