Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-10 Thread Jason Pyeron
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, C F wrote: Reading the patents and the comments written here, I couldn't resist Could you provide the patent numbers? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-09 Thread C F
Reading the patents and the comments written here, I couldn't resist and had to make this comment (ouch it's Sunday again): We should patent dugy style, and when Sprint screws Verizon from the back, sue them both for patent infringement. On 10/7/05, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-07 Thread John Todd
At 12:05 PM -0700 10/5/05, John Todd wrote: At 2:43 PM -0700 10/4/05, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Sprint Nextel is sueing vonage, voiceglo and theglobe.com for infringing on VoIP patents. Sprint Nextel claims to have about 100 patents on VoIP technologies. Does anyone know which

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-07 Thread Dave Cotton
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 01:34 -0700, John Todd wrote: To answer my own question: no, it doesn't seem like there is anything Asterisk-specific in the suit. It seems that Sprint is claiming that they own the rights to pretty much any VoIP technology. Carry on, everyone; this will be thrown

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-07 Thread Gleim, Jason
Of Dave Cotton Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:57 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 01:34 -0700, John Todd wrote: To answer my own question: no, it doesn't seem like

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-07 Thread Rich Adamson
I wouldn't think anyone would consider Sprint a dying company. They just acquired Nextel so they've got money to spend. Maybe as an ILEC (which they are here in Ohio) they are viewing Vonage and Voiceglo as a force that needs to be stopped to prevent further eroding of their POTS network.

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-06 Thread Kevin Walsh
Matt Riddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My comment was directed at the USPTO who grants patents on a regular basis with what seems like no effort to check for prior art. The first time I saw this I thought it was stupid. The second, unbelievable, and the 358456347563th one crazy! The life

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Matt Riddell
trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Anyone thinking about doing a VoIP business may want to get more info before proceeding since they may not have the millinos vonage has to fight this. Unless of course they don't live in the United Sue'ers of America. :D -- Cheers, Matt Riddell

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Kevin Walsh
trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sprint Nextel is sueing vonage, voiceglo and theglobe.com for infringing on VoIP patents. Sprint Nextel claims to have about 100 patents on VoIP technologies. Does anyone know which ones this article is talking about, and if so does

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Paul Traue, Jr.
Depending upon the patents in question, a few companies (Cisco comes to mind) may have prior art here. I know that a company cisco bought was doing VoIP in 1998, but no indications of which patents this is, or when they were filed. Paul trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Sprint

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread John Todd
At 2:43 PM -0700 10/4/05, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Sprint Nextel is sueing vonage, voiceglo and theglobe.com for infringing on VoIP patents. Sprint Nextel claims to have about 100 patents on VoIP technologies. Does anyone know which ones this article is talking about, and if

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Gleim, Jason
: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents At 2:43 PM -0700 10/4/05, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Sprint Nextel is sueing vonage, voiceglo and theglobe.com for infringing on VoIP patents. Sprint Nextel claims to have about 100 patents on VoIP technologies. Does anyone know

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/
Message- From: Gleim, Jason[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/5/05 2:05:44 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents I'll start with the disclaimer that I am

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread William Boehlke
] On Behalf Of Gleim, Jason Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:06 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents I'll start with the disclaimer that I am not an attorney... nor do I play one on TV... But, a search

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Damon Estep
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Boehlke Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:27 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents The specifics are normally a matter of public record in the jurisdiction where

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Jason Becker
Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents The specifics are normally a matter of public record in the jurisdiction where the suit was filed. The suit states the patents involved and the infringement claim. A reading

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/
if the case is knowingly frivolous, vonage, voiceglo, and theglobe can sue sprint... Http://pacer.uscourts.gov should have the filing online, when I get home I may pull it unless someone beats me to it. -Original Message- My suspicion is that Sprint was in negotiations to acquire

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Michael D Schelin
Why is it you have to put down the United States? Sprint is a U.S. Company. Vonage a U.S. Company. Digium a U.S. Company. What in the heck does it have to do with you? Even if Vonage is tied up in court the rest of the world doesn't care. VOIP will live on. We are not sue happy, This is big

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread John Novack
I read those comments as a dig on the US patent law as it relates to software, rather than a broader dig at the U.S. Perhaps I am too kind? There are screwy laws all around the globe Some countries require one to prove their innocence, others cut off a body part for a related crime, and we

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/
I meant to imply anyone that wants to do business in america, not just live here, if you want to write off america fine, don’t terminate calls here. The system is broke, and without money bigger companies can make life vary hard. My suggestion was to get more info, not to cease operations,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread Matt Riddell
John Novack wrote: I read those comments as a dig on the US patent law as it relates to software, rather than a broader dig at the U.S. Perhaps I am too kind? There are screwy laws all around the globe Some countries require one to prove their innocence, others cut off a body part for a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents

2005-10-05 Thread gw
Riddell Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:10 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sprint Nextel sueing over VoIP patents trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Anyone thinking about doing a VoIP business may want to get more info before