Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 08:14 am, Androtech wrote: I bought one Trust 56k V92 PCI Internal Modem MD-1100 which has the 1057 Motorola Chip, and I installed it on my linux box. When I try to load the module wcfxo, I cannot load it (zaptel is already loaded): Not to rub salt in the wound, but do you

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Dave Cotton
On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 11:01 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On March 5, 2005 08:14 am, Androtech wrote: I bought one Trust 56k V92 PCI Internal Modem MD-1100 which has the 1057 Motorola Chip, and I installed it on my linux box. When I try to load the module wcfxo, I cannot load it (zaptel

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread John Novack
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On March 5, 2005 08:14 am, Androtech wrote: I bought one "Trust 56k V92 PCI Internal Modem MD-1100" which has the 1057 Motorola Chip, and I installed it on my linux box. When I try to load the module wcfxo, I cannot load it (zaptel is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Paul Fielding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one? On March 5, 2005 08:14 am, Androtech wrote: I bought one Trust 56k V92 PCI Internal Modem MD-1100 which has the 1057 Motorola Chip, and I installed

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Rich Adamson
Ummm... This isn't a Digium Run list. This is a Digium sponsored list. My understanding (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is that this list *is not* a Digium support list. This list is a forum for Asterisk discussion by users. As such, I would suggest that all topics of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread John Novack
Rich Adamson wrote: snip There seems to be about a half dozen self-appointed list cops, and none of them speak for Mark, digium or asterisk. Several of those are lurking on this list only to find fresh meat to sell their services to. It's obvious who they are. Indeed. Much easier to config

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Paul
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On March 5, 2005 08:14 am, Androtech wrote: I bought one Trust 56k V92 PCI Internal Modem MD-1100 which has the 1057 Motorola Chip, and I installed it on my linux box. When I try to load the module wcfxo, I cannot load it (zaptel is already loaded): Not to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 12:22 pm, Rich Adamson wrote: There seems to be about a half dozen self-appointed list cops, and none of them speak for Mark, digium or asterisk. Several of those are lurking on this list only to find fresh meat to sell their services to. It's obvious who they are. I have

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 11:01 am, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: specifically these types of problems. Maybe someone else on this list is more forgiving than I am but I really hope not. I apologize for this remark. I still do feel, though, that if you're this new to asterisk that you should have purchased

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 11:57 am, Dave Cotton wrote: Just a question, where's the Dev Lite Kit on Digium's site? I meant Dev Kit and you're right, it's an FXO and FXS on the carrier card. US$195. The PCI Dev kit would give him an FXO and an FXS which may be more than some people want, perhaps the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 12:02 pm, John Novack wrote: Since Digium no longer suppliers this card, they were denied NOTHING! They offer comparable hardware. TDM410P is $113. There is a LOT of traffic on this list about products that are not supplied by Digium. Do you want to exclude those also? The

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - There is a LOT of traffic on this list about products that are not supplied by Digium. Do you want to exclude those also? The Sangoma guys typically handle support for their own product, even on this list. Atacomm's card hasn't hit the market yet. The Sipura people

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Mike Dent
And if nobody's going to educate the newbies, then how will they ever learn? Do you believe in letting your children do whatever they want, too? There are 'defacto' rules for any system. No, I don't have my shiny ListCoptm There is a difference when you are that childs father or mother but

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sat, 2005-03-05 at 19:30 +, Mike Dent wrote: And if nobody's going to educate the newbies, then how will they ever learn? Do you believe in letting your children do whatever they want, too? There are 'defacto' rules for any system. No, I don't have my shiny ListCoptm There is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Paul
Mike Dent wrote: And if nobody's going to educate the newbies, then how will they ever learn? Do you believe in letting your children do whatever they want, too? There are 'defacto' rules for any system. No, I don't have my shiny ListCoptm There is a difference when you are that childs

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 02:30 pm, Mike Dent wrote: There is a difference when you are that childs father or mother but you are neither? You have a point, but... (read on) Do you stop people in the street when you see them doing things wrong and try and tell them you shouldn't be doing it like that,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 02:46 pm, Paul wrote: Maybe one of the free web-based forum packages will eventually offer an elitist or impatient mode. Before you can post, you do the required reading and pass online exams. The idea is to weed out people who think README is just another geek buzzword. You

RE: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread James Pooton
Well, considering I'm on topic, I shouldn't get flamed to badly for this. I have a bunch of these working well in my home experiments: http://www.laptops4me.com/product_info.php/products_id/1444 And yes that price is correct and they do arrive. :) Not everyone can justify buying the supported

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - From: Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think where the problem comes in is that people take this forum to be asterisk-biz half the time. I need X done **RIGHT NOW**!! I DEMAND HELP!! -- take it to -biz, there are dozens if not hundreds of consultants who will

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Paul
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On March 5, 2005 02:46 pm, Paul wrote: Maybe one of the free web-based forum packages will eventually offer an elitist or impatient mode. Before you can post, you do the required reading and pass online exams. The idea is to weed out people who think README is just

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 04:57 pm, Paul wrote: FWIW - some of us have paying customers and helping them takes absolute over helping newbies who won't try to help themselves first. Some of them actually are capable of reading and studying the information already out there, but they are also selfish and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 04:49 pm, Paul Fielding wrote: Geepers man. Looking at the last couple of times you tried to 'educate' someone, I don't see anything in their messages that sound like I need X done **RIGHT NOW**!! I DEMAND HELP!!. Uneducated and demanding are not necessarily the same thing.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Paul
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: I can't tell if you're on my side of this debate or not, because you sure sound like it. :-) I'm on my side and always on the side of the serious and earnest end user. I live in a sparsely populated rural area. Most of the locals can't afford to pay for computer

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Rich Adamson
Most of those people who tend to scold every newbie are probably elitist pretenders. If they were truly elite, they would be too busy to read and reply to such posts. Of course some of us are just impatient, regardless of our skill level. Very well said! Now back to helping those that

Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P Clone, Which one?

2005-03-05 Thread Rich Adamson
I think it comes down to tolerances. Some days I am far less tolerant than others when it comes to people who just don't want to put forward any effort. Today was particularly bad and if I was a smarter person, would probably refrain from reading the list at all. I don't always