Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Balashov
Nuno Marques wrote: Every calls should pass through mediaproxy so that i can account them. You can do accounting without handling media. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706)

Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Nuno Marques
Without mediaproxy? Only based on SIP messages? 2008/10/29 Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuno Marques wrote: Every calls should pass through mediaproxy so that i can account them. You can do accounting without handling media. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web:

Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Balashov
Yes. There are some liabilities with that in that the signaling messages may be incomplete (i.e. you may miss a BYE) and this is the usual reason given for doing media proxying for more accurate accounting. But the latency, bandwidth consumption, and increased complexity and cost associated

Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Nuno Marques
Ok... Maybe you're right. I've read somewhere that this service is needed for taping reasons (policy and other law enforcements). If it's needed whe can just turn it on for that specific number, right? But answering to my question, can you point me some ideas refering about equipment that i

Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Jai Rangi
SIP-only accounting is good enough most of the time. Does not work in production environment. Specially when you are charging per second or per minute. Works only if some one is offering unmetered only service or just doing it for fun. If it metered service like calling cards, termination or

Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Balashov
Jai Rangi wrote: SIP-only accounting is good enough most of the time. Does not work in production environment. Really? Next time I will consult with your authority on what works and does not work in production environments before implementing for large-scale billing solutions that are

Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Jai Rangi
Really? Yes, Specially when your service is metered, I don't know how some once justify good enough billing. Dealing with 500 customer calling every day for billing inquiries can turn out to be much more expensive then all other expenses. Next time I will consult with your authority on what

Re: [asterisk-users] [OpenSIPS-Users] Dimensioning a telephony system based on openser!

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Balashov
By good enough I really did mean good enough, not sort-of kind-of okay. Jai Rangi wrote: Really? Yes, Specially when your service is metered, I don't know how some once justify good enough billing. Dealing with 500 customer calling every day for billing inquiries can turn out to be much