Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-02 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Norbert Zawodsky schrieb: BTW, meantime I have alread implemented all that. My DNS server is up running. I've chosen one of the existing registrars and payed him for registering 7.6.5.4.3.2.1.1.3.4.e164.arpa as my number at nic.at. The registrar vaildated that this really is my number, and

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-02 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
Hi Philipp! Philipp Kempgen schrieb: Where exactly did you register your DNS server? Did your registrar handle it for you? http://www.nic.at ? http://www.enum.at ? Yes, my registrar http://www.my-enum.at handles it. (my-enum.at seems to be a sub-company of nic.at) First you have to register

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread Leif Neland
Norbert Zawodsky skrev: What you're suggesting, though, violates the ENUM standard... and should not be allowed. N. Sorry N. ! But - at least here in Austria - it is definitely *no* assumption that my number with some extra digits can not be issued to someone else. You

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
Leif Neland schrieb: Norbert Zawodsky skrev: Sorry N. ! But - at least here in Austria - it is definitely *no* assumption that my number with some extra digits can not be issued to someone else. You probably have too many no/nots :-) No! (Again, another no ;-) ) I meant, it is not an

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread Philipp Kempgen
Leif Neland schrieb: Norbert Zawodsky skrev: The number +43-1-3207978 is my telephone number. I own it as long as I pay for it. And with extra digits behind it I can do whatever I like. I can create any extension - physical or virtual. I can attach a phone to extension 12, attach a virtual

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread Leif Neland
Philipp Kempgen wrote: Leif Neland schrieb: Norbert Zawodsky skrev: The number +43-1-3207978 is my telephone number. I own it as long as I pay for it. And with extra digits behind it I can do whatever I like. I can create any extension - physical or virtual. I can attach a phone

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread SIP
Philipp Kempgen wrote: Leif Neland schrieb: Norbert Zawodsky skrev: The number +43-1-3207978 is my telephone number. I own it as long as I pay for it. And with extra digits behind it I can do whatever I like. I can create any extension - physical or virtual. I can attach a

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread Benny Amorsen
SIP s...@arcdiv.com writes: It may work in Austria, and may even be valid in Austria. But if that's the case, it's because Austrian dialing is a complete hack -- NOT because that's the way it's intended OR designed. Err no? It's perfectly sane, and it was intended and designed that way. You

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread SIP
Benny Amorsen wrote: SIP s...@arcdiv.com writes: It may work in Austria, and may even be valid in Austria. But if that's the case, it's because Austrian dialing is a complete hack -- NOT because that's the way it's intended OR designed. Err no? It's perfectly sane, and it was

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread Raimund Sacherer
Adding random digits to a PSTN and expecting to get the same person at a different extension you don't think that's a hack? I do. One should Sorry, please do not call a whole country using a hack when their solution is legitimate. Austrian PSTN

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread John Novack
Raimund Sacherer wrote: Adding random digits to a PSTN and expecting to get the same person at a different extension you don't think that's a hack? I do. One should Sorry, please do not call a whole country using a hack when their solution is legitimate. Austrian PSTN

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread SIP
Raimund Sacherer wrote: Adding random digits to a PSTN and expecting to get the same person at a different extension you don't think that's a hack? I do. One should Sorry, please do not call a whole country using a hack when their solution is legitimate. Austrian PSTN

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread SIP
John Novack wrote: Raimund Sacherer wrote: Adding random digits to a PSTN and expecting to get the same person at a different extension you don't think that's a hack? I do. One should Sorry, please do not call a whole country using a hack when their solution is

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-12-01 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
SIP schrieb: By the time telephone operators began to be replaced by mechanical switches, open numbering plans became impossible to design for. Once Sorry, but there was definitely a time between retired human operators and software switches. And during that period, our open numbering plan

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-30 Thread SIP
Norbert Zawodsky wrote: But then you create phonenumbers in enum, which doesn't exist as pstn-numbers. Not the idea behind enum. On the other hand, if you owned 10 or 100 pstn-numbers in series, you could get the last one or two digits delegated to your dns-server. Leif

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-30 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
SIP schrieb: ENUM is, quite literally, E164 Number Mapping (that's what it stands for). If you're mapping numbers which are invalid E164 numbers (i.e. in your scenario in which you're taking an E164 number and attaching digits to it), you're violating the ENUM idea for the sake of

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-26 Thread Leif Neland
But then you create phonenumbers in enum, which doesn't exist as pstn-numbers. Not the idea behind enum. On the other hand, if you owned 10 or 100 pstn-numbers in series, you could get the last one or two digits delegated to your dns-server. Why do I create numbers in enum which doesn't

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-26 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
Leif Neland schrieb: But if a pstn or cell call +431123456720 will it be connected to +4311234567 ? Or will the call fail? If so, +431123456720 is an invalid number. Leif That depends on the Dialplan coding. A non-sip call comes in from the VoIP provider into the associated context. The

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-26 Thread Leif Neland
- Original Message - From: Norbert Zawodsky To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !! Leif Neland schrieb: But if a pstn or cell call

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-26 Thread Leif Neland
- Original Message - From: Norbert Zawodsky To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !! Leif Neland schrieb: But if a pstn or cell call

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-25 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
SIP schrieb: Yes... you would have to register (and possibly pay for, dependent on the ENUM registrar) each individual number. The idea behind ENUM is that it's an E164 number that is already yours that maps to whatever you want it to map to (email, SIP, etc). The key point here is that you

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-25 Thread Leif Neland
Norbert Zawodsky skrev: SIP schrieb: Yes... you would have to register (and possibly pay for, dependent on the ENUM registrar) each individual number. The idea behind ENUM is that it's an E164 number that is already yours that maps to whatever you want it to map to (email, SIP, etc).

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-25 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
But then you create phonenumbers in enum, which doesn't exist as pstn-numbers. Not the idea behind enum. On the other hand, if you owned 10 or 100 pstn-numbers in series, you could get the last one or two digits delegated to your dns-server. Leif

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-24 Thread SIP
Norbert Zawodsky wrote: Leif Neland schrieb: - Original Message - *From:* Norbert Zawodsky mailto:norb...@zawodsky.at *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2009

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-23 Thread Leif Neland
- Original Message - From: Norbert Zawodsky To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !! Hello all you Gurus out there! Please could you explain

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-23 Thread Norbert Zawodsky
Leif Neland schrieb: - Original Message - *From:* Norbert Zawodsky mailto:norb...@zawodsky.at *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2009 3:15 PM *Subject:*

Re: [asterisk-users] Please some enlightment on ENUM !!

2009-11-23 Thread Leif Neland
Norbert Zawodsky wrote: Leif Neland schrieb: - Original Message - *From:* Norbert Zawodsky mailto:norb...@zawodsky.at *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2009