On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:18:36AM -0400, SIP wrote:
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
ASCAP and BMI annual blankets aren't actually that expensive. A live
music venue run by some friends of mine had both, and for 535 fire-code
seating and about 150 nights a year, I think they paid $500 a year to
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
However, if you get caught willfully performing copyrighted music
without paying ASCAP, BMI, et al, you're liable for a $100,000 fine
($20,000 per song if it's not deemed willful) per song.
I wonder how much of *that* money goes to the songwriters. ;-)
Cheers
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 11:26:25AM -0400, SIP wrote:
I actually tried to find that out (even something anecdotal), but so far
no luck. I'm guessing not that much. The law allows for adjusting the
percentages somewhat on the fly for various reasons (for instance, web
radio performances give
John Novack wrote:
The fact that ASCAP goes on campaigns doesn't make it any less absurd
(or, for that matter, any more likely that the average business is going
to be taken to task); the reality is that thousands upon thousands of
interconnects install PBX systems with radio ports on them
The thread is about music on hold. Things such as playing local radio
stations in a waiting room are not related. I don't think there is
anything illegal about using normal over the air radio and TV for such
purposes as long as it stays in the local market area.
Stephen Bosch wrote:
John Novack
Paul wrote:
The thread is about music on hold. Things such as playing local radio
stations in a waiting room are not related. I don't think there is anything
illegal about using normal over the air radio and TV for such purposes as
long as it stays in the local market area.
It is ALL
John Novack wrote:
Paul wrote:
The thread is about music on hold. Things such as playing local radio
stations in a waiting room are not related. I don't think there is anything
illegal about using normal over the air radio and TV for such purposes as
long as it stays in the local
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 07:28:05PM -0400, SIP wrote:
Lots of information around about people who've had issues with
rebroadcasting the radio in their business establishments. However, it
is rare that ASCAP et al go after anyone but the big moneymakers. The
old Bloom County rule still holds
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 07:28:05PM -0400, SIP wrote:
Lots of information around about people who've had issues with
rebroadcasting the radio in their business establishments. However, it
is rare that ASCAP et al go after anyone but the big moneymakers. The
old
Steve Kennedy wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 05:22:20PM -0400, Jon Pounder wrote:
Quoting John Millican [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
there are plenty of radio stations with internet feeds of their audio,
piping that in would not change any coverage area since anyone with
internet could listen
Stephen Bosch wrote:
Well, this is approaching the absurd.
Do you know how many Meridian systems have radios plugged into them for
on-hold background sound? Nobody pays royalties on those.
IF they are discovered by ASCAP and receive a letter demanding payment
they will. Not absurd at
: [asterisk-users] Royalty for On Hold Music ?
Stephen Bosch wrote:
Well, this is approaching the absurd.
Do you know how many Meridian systems have radios plugged into them
for on-hold background sound? Nobody pays royalties on those.
IF they are discovered by ASCAP and receive a letter
John Novack wrote:
Stephen Bosch wrote:
Well, this is approaching the absurd.
Do you know how many Meridian systems have radios plugged into them for
on-hold background sound? Nobody pays royalties on those.
IF they are discovered by ASCAP and receive a letter demanding payment
they
Stephen Bosch wrote:
John Novack wrote:
Stephen Bosch wrote:
Well, this is approaching the absurd.
Do you know how many Meridian systems have radios plugged into them for
on-hold background sound? Nobody pays royalties on those.
IF they are discovered by ASCAP and
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Steve Kennedy wrote:
What if the radio is on in the background when I make a call ? is that
rebroadcasting ? kind of gets blurry on the definitions there.
That's not as you're listening to it and not trying to rebroadcast.
I've not been following this thread closely,
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 06:36 +0100, Deepak Naidu wrote:
I think we need to pay for the later, but I am not sure if we need to
pay for the inbuilt asterisk(freepbx) on hold music.
I'm no lawyer, but here's what I understand. (Please consult with an
attorney in your area, and don't consider this
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 07:25:00AM -0400, Jared Smith wrote:
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 06:36 +0100, Deepak Naidu wrote:
I think we need to pay for the later, but I am not sure if we need to
pay for the inbuilt asterisk(freepbx) on hold music.
I'm no lawyer, but here's what I understand.
Thanks Jared, Yes I am using with Asterisk only. So I am using the inbuilt
music from Asterisk for onhold.
--
Deepak
Jared Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 06:36 +0100,
Deepak Naidu wrote:
I think we need to pay for the later, but I am not sure if we need to
pay for the
So is there a simple way to license decent, up to date music? Can I
just go to a website, click a buy button, pay my money and download
the song?
It seems idiotic that you need 15 lawyers and a million bucks use
decent on hold music.
Maybe I just don't know the procedure.
I am all for paying
Just Google for: royalty free music, and will find plenty of sites that will
serve your needs.
John Beaman
Telecom Specialist
Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
Good Samaritan National Campus
605-362-3331
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/31/2007 12:49:45 PM
So is there a simple way to license
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:49:45PM -0500, voiplist wrote:
So is there a simple way to license decent, up to date music? Can I
just go to a website, click a buy button, pay my money and download
the song?
In some cases, yes.
It seems idiotic that you need 15 lawyers and a million bucks use
I have done this in the past and I don't recall ever finding any
popular music by popular artist.
For example, if I wanted to play oh I don't know an original song
performed by the original artist such as Nora Jones or The Beatles
will I find this sort of thing at a Royalty Free Site?
On
No, you will not. According to the music industry those artists are all are
entitled to compensation for every time their song is broadcast, which includes
MoH. AFAIK, there are no popular songs by popular artists that are
royalty-free.
John Beaman
Telecom Specialist
Voice
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 01:37:00PM -0500, voiplist wrote:
I have done this in the past and I don't recall ever finding any
popular music by popular artist.
For example, if I wanted to play oh I don't know an original song
performed by the original artist such as Nora Jones or The Beatles
There's no royalty free popular songs by popular artists. Not only
would you have to pay royalties, you would have to secure the rights
from the artists' representatives just to get the permission to play
the songs in the first place.
Darrell S. Long
BestWeb Corporation
john beaman wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 03:05:32PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 01:37:00PM -0500, voiplist wrote:
I have done this in the past and I don't recall ever finding any
popular music by popular artist.
For example, if I wanted to play oh I don't know an original song
. . .
Even if you can find non-original-artist recordings of such music, the
*compositions* are registered with BMI and ASCAP, and you'll need
blanket licenses to play them. (Well, if you only wanted one or two
tracks, you might negotiate specific licenses, but I'm not sure it
would be
On Tuesday July 31 2007 4:44 pm, Joe acquisto wrote:
. . .
Even if you can find non-original-artist recordings of such music, the
*compositions* are registered with BMI and ASCAP, and you'll need
blanket licenses to play them. (Well, if you only wanted one or two
tracks, you might
Quoting John Millican [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
there are plenty of radio stations with internet feeds of their audio,
piping that in would not change any coverage area since anyone with
internet could listen anywhere already, you're only providing that to
the listener through a phone handset
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 05:22:20PM -0400, Jon Pounder wrote:
Quoting John Millican [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
there are plenty of radio stations with internet feeds of their audio,
piping that in would not change any coverage area since anyone with
internet could listen anywhere already, you're
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