RE: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Authentication

2005-06-13 Thread Stojan Sljivic - GDS
Title: Message



Hi,

Does 
anyone know the solution to this issue?

Regards,Stojan 
Sljivic 

  
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  Sljivic - GDSSent: Friday, June 10, 2005 13:21To: 
  'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'Subject: 
  [Asterisk-Users] SIP Authentication
  Hi,
  
  I 
  use SIP softphone that is not registered at Asterisk.
  When 
  I dial some extension defined in the dial plan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])with my SIP softphone, 
  Asterisk will not ask me for username/password (will not return response 407) 
  as I expected.
  The 
  response 407 - Authentication required will be returned if username defined in 
  the softphone's setting matches one of the SIP peers defined in 
  sip.conf.
  
  This 
  means that anyone can dial extension at my Asterisk and that is not 
  good, since that person could then dial over my ZAP 
  line.
  
  How 
  can I configure Asterisk to allow only peers defined in sip.conf to register 
  and dial?
  
  Regards,
  Stojan Sljivic
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[Asterisk-Users] Macro support in realtime

2005-06-13 Thread Damon Estep
Is there any way to accomplish the following? (searched and searched and
can not find any examples)

In extensions.conf (text file) define a macro that accepts a handful of
arguments

From realtime mysql (extensions) - call the  macro with arguments (where
the macro is static in the text file)

If not, what about putting the macro in mysql?

Just trying to find a way to reduce the number of db records per
extension to 1 from 6+ by calling a macro with 6+ arguments from a
single record.

Possible?
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[Asterisk-Users] Phantom incoming calls on x100p

2005-06-13 Thread Remco Barende

Hi!

I have a problem with one box running asterisk, one pots line and an 
X100P. Almost every night the phones give 2-3 rings and then stop. There 
are no actual incoming calls, I verified by putting a device that lists 
the incoming telephone numbers parallell to the X100p and it doesn't 
list any calls.


This is the output on the console for a real incoming call:
  == Spawn extension (inbound-analog, s, 2) exited non-zero on 'Zap/1-1'
    -- Hungup 'Zap/1-1'
    -- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/1-1'
Jun 12 17:20:26 NOTICE[8653]: chan_zap.c:5374 ss_thread: Got event 2 
(Ring/Answered)...
Jun 12 17:20:27 NOTICE[8653]: chan_zap.c:5374 ss_thread: Got event 2 
(Ring/Answered)...

    -- Executing Wait(Zap/1-1, 1) in new stack
    -- Executing Dial(Zap/1-1, SIP/201SIP/202|70|tm) in new stack
    -- Called 201
    -- Called 202
    -- SIP/201-1947 is ringing
    -- SIP/202-e2e7 is ringing
    -- SIP/202-e2e7 answered Zap/1-1



This is one of the phantom calls:
== Spawn extension (inbound-analog, s, 2) exited non-zero on 'Zap/1-1'
    -- Hungup 'Zap/1-1'
    -- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/1-1'
Jun 13 02:49:43 WARNING[8653]: chan_zap.c:5445 ss_thread: CallerID 
returned with error on channel 'Zap/1-1'

    -- Executing Wait(Zap/1-1, 1) in new stack
    -- Executing Dial(Zap/1-1, SIP/201SIP/202|70|tm) in new stack
    -- Called 201
    -- Called 202
    -- SIP/201-04fd is ringing
    -- SIP/202-5f9d is ringing
  == Spawn extension (inbound-analog, s, 2) exited non-zero on 'Zap/1-1'
    -- Hungup 'Zap/1-1'



Is there any way to kill this?

Thanks!


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[Asterisk-Users] Need Help with pickup *8

2005-06-13 Thread Kib Eki

Hi,

when i use the *8 for the call pickup the call i fetch is directly
connected and i can't see the callers number.
What i want is that the call in the first only rings at my phone and in the
second i can see the callers number before i am connected.

I am using a polycom 500 ip phone. Is this a special polycom problem?

Regards,

Kib


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GXP2000 and hint LED's

2005-06-13 Thread Peter Svensson
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Peter Svensson wrote:

 On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, James Bean wrote:
  
  Peter seems to be on the ball more then me about these phones as
  grandstream gave me the standard replies, Peter do you know for sure if
  grandstream have a timetable for the function led's cause I need to
  rollout about 50 phones and need 6-7 led's for display, which means a
  snom220+expansion, and gxp2000 seems perfect if it worked.
 
 I am certain that at least some documentation mentioned that the buttons 
 will provide subscribe/notify in the future. I will ask our distributor to 
 see what the official Grandstream position is. 

I received word from Grandstream today. The subscribe functionality is 
expected to make the next release. It is expected to ship in 1-2 months. 
No promises, but it is apparently high on their list of requested 
features.

Peter

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[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk code

2005-06-13 Thread Ibrar Ahmed
Hi-
I want to learn asterisk code and its archetecture where can i get help.


--- Kib Eki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 when i use the *8 for the call pickup the call i fetch is directly
 connected and i can't see the callers number.
 What i want is that the call in the first only rings at my phone and in the
 second i can see the callers number before i am connected.
 
 I am using a polycom 500 ip phone. Is this a special polycom problem?
 
 Regards,
 
 Kib
 
 
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[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk installation error after CVS update

2005-06-13 Thread Gundemarie Scholz

Good morning!

Asterisk 1.0.7 runs fine on my machine with Suse 9.3 when using a
downloaded tarball. But as I wanted to have a look at Realtime I
decided to download everything again via CVS with
# cvs checkout zaptel libpri asterisk
and install it.

Unfortunately though the Asterisk installation itself stops at some
point with the following errors:

=== snips ===
chan_sip.c:36: internal compiler error: output_operand: invalid
expression as operand
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See URL:http://www.suse.de/feedback for instructions.
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:148310: Warning: partial line at end of file ignored
Preprocessed source stored into /tmp/ccbflXC6.out file, please attach
this to your bugreport.
make[1]: *** [chan_sip.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk/channels'
make: *** [subdirs] Error 1
=== snip ===

Checking the file /usr/src/asterisk/channels/chan_sip.c, line 36 says:
ASTERISK_FILE_VERSION(__FILE__, $Revision: 1.759 $)

Is this now actually an Asterisk error, or a Suse error?

Regards,
Gunde
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[Asterisk-Users] Problem with DTMF Relay and Oh323

2005-06-13 Thread Federico Alves
When the inbound leg of the all is SIP and the outbound leg is Oh323
(Voip-to-Voip only here), the DTMF relay (either RFC2833 or SIP Info), fails
to go through, while it works perfectly when both legs of the call are SIP.
Is this a shortcoming of the Asterisk core or the Oh323 channel? Is this
solvable at all with some configuration change or a simple rewriting of the
Oh323 channel driver? Second question: how can I force the Oh323 to propose
only one codec to the outbound H323 endpoint, and do not negotiate? The
choice of codec is a business decision: if the gateway is located in my own
subnet I don't need compression, but if not I need to use only G29, etc.

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[Asterisk-Users] Modprobe wctdm hang at command prompt

2005-06-13 Thread Stojan Sljivic - GDS
Title: Message



Hi 
Chee,

We are 
experiencing the same issue.
Did 
you find a solution for this and can you please share it with 
us?

Regards,
Stojan 
Sljivic
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Problem with DTMF Relay and Oh323

2005-06-13 Thread Asterisk

I have the same on calls originating from a sip phone and going into a ZAP channel.Andre- Oorspronkelijk Bericht -Onderwerp:


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[Asterisk-Users] 407 Proxy Authentication Required

2005-06-13 Thread Shahan Kalutanthri
Title: 407 Proxy Authentication Required 





I am getting error: Call rejected: 407 Proxy Authentication Required - if a user is trying to call using * over a long latency network using sjphone  snom.

How to overcome this..!!
Pls advice..!
Shahan





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk code

2005-06-13 Thread Matt Riddell

Ibrar Ahmed wrote:

Hi-
I want to learn asterisk code and its archetecture where can i get help.


:)

You could try the psychiatrist. Or maybe just a local support group.

:)

Jokes aside, some good resources are:

www.voip-info.org
www.asteriskdocs.org
my news (www.sineapps.com/news.php)
IRC (irc://irc.freenode.net/asterisk)

Or make progdocs from asterisk
or simple 'use the source luke'

And post a question if you have one.

--
Cheers,

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[Asterisk-Users] about timeouts

2005-06-13 Thread Andrea Riela

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Hi folks,

I've this infrastructure:

|voip services| -- |*| -- |cme| -- |isdn|

the voip services are logged on my *, then forwarded to number 601 on 
cme. The isdn calls too are forwarded to 601. On cme I've a timeout X 
for call-forward noan (no answer) to a specific number on * (5901) that 
is my x-lite software client. If 5901 is unreacheable the call is 
forwarded to voicemail (always on *) -- u601


Tests:
- - for isdn calls all works great, even if X=30sec
- - for voip services: if X=20sec, and 5901 is unreacheable, all works 
fine; if X=30sec, I've a tear down without voicemail; if X=20sec, but 
5901 is logged in, I've a tear down after 7-8 sec on x-lite without 
wait 20sec+voicemail as configuration.


I think there's a problem with * timeouts. What could I do?

my extensions.conf:

exten = _59XX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},20,tTr)
exten = _59XX,2,Hangup
exten = 5901,1,Dial(SIP/5901,20,tTr)
exten = 5901,2,Voicemail(u601)
exten = 5901,3,Hangup

Any suggestion will be appreciated
Regards
Andrea
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[Asterisk-Users] MySQL: max realistic size of extensions table.

2005-06-13 Thread Cenk Yabas




Hi,
I'm using *CVS Head 
version and read the dialplan from MySQL.
I'm making A-Z 
termination to over 4000 different country and city codes.I have 3 
different dialing rules depending on the price level of the dialed 
number.
Should my extensions 
table contain 4000 lines? Is this realistic? Or is there any other (more clever) 
way doing this?
Regards,
Cenk.
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[Asterisk-Users] SNOM, Asterisk and Attended transfer (bug?)

2005-06-13 Thread Steve Davies
Hi,

I am using a number of snom190 phones, and an asterisk gateway
server, and recently started experimenting with call transfers. The
snom phones provide support for attended and un-attended call
transfer, so I would rather use that than call-parking.

I have found that un-attended transfer works fine, and that attended
transfer works fine if the originating phone call is NON-SIP (ie.
ISDN)

I hope that some of this makes sense...

When I look at the SIP trace for the sequence of A calls B and is
transferred to C, I see:
A makes call to B:
  A calls B
  B picks up
  A and B are bridged (re-INVITEd) and talk directly.
B then puts A on hold:
  (A and B are both INVITE to talk via Asterisk)
B makes a call to C, I see:
  B calls C
  C picks up
  B and C are bridged (re-INVITEd) and talk directly.
B presses transfer:
  (Same as putting B and C on hold, B and C are re-INVITEd to talk via Asterisk)
B selects which line to transfer to C
  B REFERs A to C by asking Asterisk. Asterisk accepts this.
  B is notified that A is disconnected
  B gets BYE for call to A
  B gets BYE for call to C
  C gets INVITE to talk to B via Asterisk  Why? Why not to 'A'
  B requests that call to A is closed down.

The upshot of all this is that B is correctly out of the loop, and
that Both A and C think they have opened communications with a new
phone, both via Asterisk. Unfortunately there is no Audio. If one of
the parties hangs up, the connection is correctly closed.

I am curious why Asterisk would put a From: of B in the final
INVITE to bridge the calls. Perhaps this is just how SIP spoofs the
communication so that C does not need to know about the 2 callers?

Is there some way I can track down where my audio is going? As
mentioned, this problem only seems to occur if A,B,C are all SIP
phones, but not if A is an ISDN call.

Thanks,
Steve
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[Asterisk-Users] Guidance , for which card to buy

2005-06-13 Thread John Joseph
Hi 
   I am planning to try to use Asterisk for testing
purpose , for PBX systems ,  I have  one PC with RHEL
4 
   
I want to buy “digium”  cards  for this
purpose , but I am not sure about which card to buy ,
this field is totally new to me , requesting guidance
for  selecting the card 
 
 I am in  middle-east , UAE , Dubai .  where the
OpenSource / Linux usage is very less  . I would also
like to know from the members that whether  any one in
this area is using Asterisk 
Thanks 
  Joseph John 




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] PRI trouble

2005-06-13 Thread Mike M
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 06:10:53AM -0400, Michael Di Martino wrote:
 
 However i still get the same error. Please help we cannot connect call
 form my norstar to asterisk w/ it dropping in 10 seconds.
 
 Jun 12 10:51:51 NOTICE[213005]: PRI got event: 5 on Primary D-channel of
 span 2
 Jun 12 10:51:51 WARNING[213005]: No D-channels available!  Using Primary
 on channel anyway 48!Jun 12 10:51:51 NOTICE[262160]: Alarm cleared on
 channel 35
 Jun 12 10:51:51 NOTICE[262160]: Alarm cleared on channel 36
 Jun 12 10:51:51 NOTICE[262160]: Alarm cleared on channel 37
 Jun 12 10:51:51 NOTICE[262160]: Alarm cleared on channel 38

Hmmm. Links works and suddenly stops.  No changes to either side both of
which you control.  

To test the cable idea someone had, pull the cable and see if messages
are the same or different.  If the same, then it's likely the cable
that's the problem.  If different, the it's likely that the cable is not
the problem.

My vote is for clocking.  I've had non-Asterisk T1/E1 circuits act fine for 
long periods and then flake out.  Correcting the clocking relationship fixed the
flakyness.

One way to investigate clocking is to use the pri commands to watch the
D channel activity.  If you see lots of Q.921 messages (SABME, RR, etc.)
then it might be the result of fouled up messaging from bad CRC and
other broken protocol events stemming from bad clocking.

I've collected some articles and discussions on T1/E1 clocking here:
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+PRI

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[Asterisk-Users] Cepstral partnership with Digium

2005-06-13 Thread Anton Krall
I just read about the partnership but was wondering what is actually going
to happen? Is asterisk going to be bundled with cepstral voices for free :)?
Or whats the deal?

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[Asterisk-Users] Oh323 and Caller ID missing

2005-06-13 Thread Federico Alves
I am sending calls using Oh323 to a Cisco Gateway (AS5300), and although I
set the caller id correctly in my perl AGI script
$AGI-set_callerid($ani); , the gateway does not see any caller id coming
from my Asterisk box. I use the very latest version of Oh323 as published in
the Inaccess web site, and Asterisk HEAD from two days ago. The caller ID
important for this client, because he will further authenticate the call
based on the ANI. I am only doing a codec conversion. Any help is
appreciated from Jeremy McNamara.


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[Asterisk-Users] Re: POLYCOM IP 500 Setup

2005-06-13 Thread Noah Miller
Hi Matt -Hello, I just wiped out my old asterisk install and installed Asterisk  at Home.  I was quickly able to get my Digium TDM422P working, 2 POTS  lines, 2 phones.  I also got X-Lite working as a SIP extension.  I then  tried to setup my Polycom IP 500, and this was not so easy...  Using AMP I created SIP extension 205 to be used with my Polycom phone.   I setup username = 205, secret = 123, context = from-internal.  I setup my phone to have a static IP address, then pointed my web  browser at it, to setup my phone. I setup Sip Conf with: Address = "IP of * server",  Server1 = "IP of *  Server" Under Registration, I setup: Identification: Address = "IP of * Server"  , Auth User ID = 205,  Auth Password = 123, Server1: Address = "IP of *  server"For your phone-specific file, address isn't the asterisk address, it is the sip address of the phone - you can just use "205".- Noah___
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Anyone noticed Voipjet voice quality problems?

2005-06-13 Thread Matt
I never noticed any problems.. so I can't comment :) hehe

On 6/11/05, Pedro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Finally got a response from voipjet support and they say they have
 switched to a new provider for US termination.  I have yet to test
 this out as I have not had a chance to build them back into our routes
 but will report my findings once I do.  Anyone else notice any
 improvements?
 
 On 6/9/05, Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We have been having serious quality problems using the westcoast
  server - been using the East coast server with increased success but
  seeing some issues related to going cross continent.
 
  Voipjet, you listening?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: POLYCOM IP 500 Setup

2005-06-13 Thread Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)




[EMAIL PROTECTED] will 
not be able to configure polycom500 phones.

You need to add this entry in sip.conf manually with 
one additional line as under:

progressinband=no

Seshu



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noah 
MillerSent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:44 AMTo: 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] Re: POLYCOM 
IP 500 Setup


Hi Matt -


  Hello, I just wiped out my old asterisk install and installed 
  Asterisk
  at Home. I was quickly 
  able to get my Digium TDM422P working, 2 POTS
  lines, 2 phones. I also 
  got X-Lite working as a SIP extension. 
  I then
  tried to setup my Polycom IP 500, and this was not so 
easy...
  
  Using AMP I created SIP extension 205 to be used with my Polycom phone. 
  
  I setup username = 205, secret = 123, context = 
  from-internal.
  
  I setup my phone to have a static IP address, then pointed my web
  browser at it, to setup my phone.
  I setup Sip Conf with: Address = "IP of * server", Server1 = "IP of *
  Server"
  Under Registration, I setup: Identification: Address = "IP of * 
  Server"
  , Auth User ID = 205, 
  Auth Password = 123, Server1: Address = "IP of *
  server"

For your phone-specific file, address isn't the asterisk address, it is the 
sip address of the phone - you can just use "205".


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[Asterisk-Users] nativ bridging problem with ilbc!!

2005-06-13 Thread Atuc

hallo all,

could sombody please help me,

i dont know why nativ bridging is not working when i choose the ilbc codec, 
with speex it is working,??


iaxcomm (ilbc) ---asterisk   -- ( asterisk2 -- sip grandstream (alaw) )
\-native bridge--/


1. if i use on iaxcomm as default speex, nativ bridging between iaxcomm and 
my sip phone is working
2. if i use ilbc on iaxcomm and try from an pat network (no native 
bridging!!) the code translation on my * (asterisk2) server works fine
3. if i use ilbc on another (not mine, mine does not work with ilbc) 
grandstream adapert everything works (no code translation)
4. if i use like the same like in 1. but ilbc instead of speex, it 
sometimes works, most of the time not, only one side hears the other.


does sombody has an idea what teh problem could be? why this only happens 
with ilbc codec?
i have ilbc enabled and as first codec in all iax.conf's and also in the 
sip.conf


thanks,
alex



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[Asterisk-Users] presence and video conference

2005-06-13 Thread Juraj Bednar
Hello,


 I would like to ask, if there's presence support in Asterisk and how
to make it work with
Xten's Eyebeam client. I tried searching all the possible
documentation, google, but I found only a note, that there's a module
in SER, that supports the feature. Is there also support in asterisk?
Any pointer to documentation describing this is welcome.

  One more question -- is there a video conferencing support (like
meetme, but for video)?
I also found some development pages, but without code...


   Thanks,


   Juraj Bednar.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SNOM, Asterisk and Attended transfer (bug?)

2005-06-13 Thread Damon Estep
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davies
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:17 AM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] SNOM, Asterisk and Attended transfer (bug?)
 
 Hi,
 
 I am using a number of snom190 phones, and an asterisk gateway
 server, and recently started experimenting with call transfers. The
 snom phones provide support for attended and un-attended call
 transfer, so I would rather use that than call-parking.
 
 I have found that un-attended transfer works fine, and that attended
 transfer works fine if the originating phone call is NON-SIP (ie.
 ISDN)
 
 I hope that some of this makes sense...
 
 When I look at the SIP trace for the sequence of A calls B and is
 transferred to C, I see:
 A makes call to B:
   A calls B
   B picks up
   A and B are bridged (re-INVITEd) and talk directly.
 B then puts A on hold:
   (A and B are both INVITE to talk via Asterisk)
 B makes a call to C, I see:
   B calls C
   C picks up
   B and C are bridged (re-INVITEd) and talk directly.
 B presses transfer:
   (Same as putting B and C on hold, B and C are re-INVITEd to talk via
 Asterisk)
 B selects which line to transfer to C
   B REFERs A to C by asking Asterisk. Asterisk accepts this.
   B is notified that A is disconnected
   B gets BYE for call to A
   B gets BYE for call to C
   C gets INVITE to talk to B via Asterisk  Why? Why not to
'A'
   B requests that call to A is closed down.
 
 The upshot of all this is that B is correctly out of the loop, and
 that Both A and C think they have opened communications with a new
 phone, both via Asterisk. Unfortunately there is no Audio. If one of
 the parties hangs up, the connection is correctly closed.
 
 I am curious why Asterisk would put a From: of B in the final
 INVITE to bridge the calls. Perhaps this is just how SIP spoofs the
 communication so that C does not need to know about the 2 callers?
 
 Is there some way I can track down where my audio is going? As
 mentioned, this problem only seems to occur if A,B,C are all SIP
 phones, but not if A is an ISDN call.
 
 Thanks,
 Steve
 ___

Upgrade your snom firmware to the latest and make sure break key = off
in the setup.

Use the transfer feature in asterisk for attended transfers.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Authentication

2005-06-13 Thread Rick Baranowski
Title: Message








You may need to look to see if you are
using peer or friend in the sip config for this phone. We needed to change ours
to friend to make it work for us with still using secret.











From:
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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 11:18
PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List -
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] SIP
Authentication







Hi,











Does anyone know the solution to this
issue?









Regards,
Stojan Sljivic 



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Authentication



Hi,











I use SIP softphone that is not
registered at Asterisk.





When I dial some extension defined in
the dial plan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])with
my SIP softphone, Asterisk will not ask me for username/password (will not
return response 407) as I expected.





The response 407 - Authentication
required will be returned if username defined in the softphone's setting
matches one of the SIP peers defined in sip.conf.











This means that anyone can dial
extension at my Asterisk and that is not good, since that person could
then dial over my ZAP line.











How can I configure Asterisk to allow
only peers defined in sip.conf to register and dial?











Regards,





Stojan Sljivic










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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SIP Authentication

2005-06-13 Thread Race Vanderdecken
Title: Message









Greetings,



You have stumbled on to
one of the most troublesome flag for newbies;
autocreatepeer.



http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+sip+autocreatepeer



in your sip.conf file add a
line in the [general] section autocreatepeer=no



Now people can only use
your Asterisk SIP connection if you create a peer entry for them in your
sip.conf file.



Your sip.conf file should
be located in /etc/asterisk directory.



cd /etc/asterisk

vi
sip.conf





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Authentication





Hi,











Does
anyone know the solution to this issue?









Regards,
Stojan Sljivic 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stojan Sljivic - GDS
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 13:21
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List -
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] SIP
Authentication



Hi,











I use
SIP softphone that is not registered at Asterisk.





When I
dial some extension defined in the dial plan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])with
my SIP softphone, Asterisk will not ask me for username/password (will not
return response 407) as I expected.





The
response 407 - Authentication required will be returned if username defined in
the softphone's setting matches one of the SIP peers defined in sip.conf.











This
means that anyone can dial extension at my Asterisk and that is not good,
since that person could then dial over my ZAP line.











How
can I configure Asterisk to allow only peers defined in sip.conf to register
and dial?











Regards,





Stojan
Sljivic










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RE: [Asterisk-Users] presence and video conference

2005-06-13 Thread Dean Collins
Hi Juraj,
I have been trying for some time to fund video conferencing support and
have offered a personal bounty of several thousands of dollars in order
to get it developed.

So far 5 people have contacted me but apart from one point to point
solution I'm still waiting.

In the interim I have purchased www.smiletiger.com software for my video
conferencing requirements.


Dean



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 To: Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] presence and video conference
 
 Hello,
 
 
  I would like to ask, if there's presence support in Asterisk and how
 to make it work with
 Xten's Eyebeam client. I tried searching all the possible
 documentation, google, but I found only a note, that there's a module
 in SER, that supports the feature. Is there also support in asterisk?
 Any pointer to documentation describing this is welcome.
 
   One more question -- is there a video conferencing support (like
 meetme, but for video)?
 I also found some development pages, but without code...
 
 
Thanks,
 
 
Juraj Bednar.
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[Asterisk-Users] wiki server session limit?

2005-06-13 Thread Damon Estep
It seems that the wiki pages at www.voip-info.org are not responding,
and this has happened before. Responds to ping but not http requests.

Is there a session limit on the web site? Is it too low? Maybe another
explanantion?

Anyone else notice?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk to Cisco Unity

2005-06-13 Thread Race Vanderdecken
Also check out the CISCO GKTMP API, that is their gatekeeper api. There
might be some cool stuff you might like to know.

Race the tyrant Vanderdecken

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My fault. I understand my terminology was not accurate. Thanks for your 
reply.

Simone

Steve Hanselman wrote:
 With call manager V4 and above it's extremely easy, just connect a SIP
trunk to *.
  
 BTW Unity is the Cisco voicemail system, Call Manager (CCM) is the
actual PBX so your terminology may be confusing some people.
  
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Simone
 Sent: Fri 10/06/2005 10:15
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk to Cisco Unity
 
 
 
 I understand what you're saying, but I am not the one who makes the
 decisions. That decision is made already, so since I am actually
getting
 your point and I agree with that, the only thing I can try to do right
 now, is try to avoid having Cisco Unity in the other 3 offices. I
would
 love to implement Asterisk in these ones, but if it cannot be
connected
 to Cisco this won't be an option at all, they won't consider it.
 
 So, back to the question, is it possible to connect Asterisk to Cisco
 and have all the functionality expected, and is it hard?
 
 Thanks, have a nice day
 
 Simone
 
 William Boehlke wrote:
 
 
By the time you install the Asterisk server you have more features
than
Cisco delivers with Unity, for half the cost and without those
annoying
viruses.

So instead of thinking about connecting Asterisk, consider
disconnecting
Unity. They make excellent landfill.

Regards,

William Boehlke
Signate



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Hi, just wondering if my question is just unusual or if it is a quite
stupid
one. Thought there would be someone having this kind of scenario, but
maybe
I'm wrong.

btw, have a nice day

Simone

Simone wrote:




Hi all, first post. My company's office in the UK is soon going to
get
a Cisco VoIP solution system. What I am interested in, and couldn't
find googling, is if it is possible to connect an Asterisk solution
to
the Cisco system and have all the nice advantages of it (mainly
calling the extensions and directly reach the other office).

Thanks, have a nice day

Simone
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk code

2005-06-13 Thread Race Vanderdecken
Also subscribe to the asterisk-dev mail list. Watch it for a couple of
days before you ask a question or they will eat your lunch.

Pick a single thing you want to change in the PBX, and then learn how to
code for that. Something really simple like adding a parameter to a conf
file is a good place to start. If you can do that then you can move to
harder stuff.

Race the tyrant Vanderdecken

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Ibrar Ahmed wrote:
 Hi-
 I want to learn asterisk code and its archetecture where can i get
help.

:)

You could try the psychiatrist. Or maybe just a local support group.

:)

Jokes aside, some good resources are:

www.voip-info.org
www.asteriskdocs.org
my news (www.sineapps.com/news.php)
IRC (irc://irc.freenode.net/asterisk)

Or make progdocs from asterisk
or simple 'use the source luke'

And post a question if you have one.

-- 
Cheers,

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[Asterisk-Users] Components and suggestions for an asterisk server with 9 to 17 POTS.

2005-06-13 Thread Ken Dresdell








Hello, 



What would be the simplest and
the cheapest solution to get an Asterisk server working with 9 to 17 POTS? 



Because for 1-8 POTS we are
using 1 or 2 Digium TDM cards and past 17 POTS in our
area it is economic to use a PRI.



We are looking for a hardware
solution on our side instead of using did provider



Thanks in advance



Ken








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RE: [Asterisk-Users] wiki server session limit?

2005-06-13 Thread Race Vanderdecken
Are they running on a windows server? :)=)

Maybe it has the Monday Morning Blues.  (I can't get it to talk either.)

Race

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It seems that the wiki pages at www.voip-info.org are not responding,
and this has happened before. Responds to ping but not http requests.

Is there a session limit on the web site? Is it too low? Maybe another
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk forking, Was: Digium Website Update: Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread Lee Howard

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:


On Saturday 11 June 2005 19:51, Lee Howard wrote:
 


I don't think that lack of mindshare completely defines the reasons
behind Asterisk fork failures.  It places all of the blame on the
forkers.  I think the truth, though, is that they not only fail due to
lack of mindshare but also due to competition from Digium's own
Asterisk community.  Forks are not succeeding, yes, but Digium has a
hand in that... of course they do.
   



I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious: how does Digium have a hand in a 
fork failing?
 



That's what I tried to explain in my last post, in particular after this 
first statement.  Forks enter a hostile competition rather than a 
healthy competition.



I've heard more talk about Asterisk forks than I've ever heard about
forks of any other other open-source project.  I think that this says
something about how difficult-to-swallow Digium's dual-license decree is
for a lot of prospective contributors/developers.
   



I disagree; if it were that hard to swallow the project would either be 90% 
digium-written (it's not) or it would be a total flop (again it's not).




If you (or someone else reading this post) is in a position to give 
statistics on what percentage of the code is Digium-written (or 
Digium-rewritten - in the case where a disclaimer is not obtained for 
some unpatented work and Digium rewrites the work independently) then I 
would be thrilled to see it.



We see this happen all of the time with the Linux kernel.  It happens
with HylaFAX.  It happened with X.  I'm sure it happens a lot with many
other open-source software projects.  It happens easily and usually is a
healthy process because the playing field is even.
   



Agreed.   But where are the successful Asterisk forks?
 



I don't know of any successful Asterisk forks (unless 
http://www.asteriskwin32.com is considered successful - although I'll 
admit that I'm not really in-the-know).  But this was my point: that the 
way things were set up by Digium makes a successful fork difficult.  
Digium always has an upper-hand, and things were set up intentionally 
this way.  Again, I don't take particular issue with this.  I'm just 
trying to explain why forking Asterisk would not be a particularly easy 
task.



Of course, this healthy forking cannot be done with Asterisk because
Digium will not accept any non-disclaimed code into their repository.
   



... What you'd described about distribution-maintained patches has nothing to 
do with this.  Digium could take a distribution-maintained patch and rewrite 
it into Asterisk proper under the dual license (as could any other 
contributor) and you'd still gain the benefit of the patch.  I'm not sure I 
see where you're going here.
 



If you (or someone else reading this) has the necessary information to 
provide statistics on how what percentage of the code comes from 
rewrites of non-disclaimed code, then I would be particularly interested 
in hearing it.  I suspect, though, that it is a rather small - perhaps 
insignificant - amount.  But, yes, providing that there is not a patent 
involved - yes, the work could be rewritten and integrated.  But this 
was my point: that given the right environment forks can benefit from 
each other.


The one thing that an Asterisk fork can never do, though, is relicense 
itself.  Only Diguim can do that.  If Digium had wanted an equal footing 
in this regard then Asterisk would be LGPL or BSD or something a bit 
more liberal.  So if I'm a manufacturer of PBXes and have some 
proprietary IP that I do not wish to be GPLed, then if I want to use 
Asterisk somehow, then I can really only work with Digium for 
licensing.  All of the other forks will be license-prohibitive.


I have to admit that I know quite a few people with their own 
modules and such to replace what they feel is bad code and just won't 
contribute it back to Asterisk due to the friction they've received about the 
patch.  I, on the other hand, tend to bitch loud and continuously enough and 
wear them down to the point of accepting it.  :-)
 



So we're not in disagreement, it would seem.  Getting code contributions 
into Digium's Asterisk codebase is not something that many average 
people are going to want to undergo.  From what I've seen, friction is 
a bit light of a term for it.  It seems much more hostile than that.  
And, that's often even before the disclaimer hurdle is reached.


Lee.

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[Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in large installation

2005-06-13 Thread Mike
Hi,

Please forgive my terminology, still a bit new to T1s and such.

I'm looking for a way to have 5 T1s from a carrier terminate into some type
of box (multiplexer?), then be able to plug 7 asterisk servers into that box
(each with single port T1 card) and be able to have 2 * servers go down at 
any given time and not actually have the carrier see that anything has happened.
Obviously if a * server crashes the calls on it at the time will drop, but 
then once the box (multiplexer?) sees that a T1 is down (between the box 
and asterisk) it will terminate those DS0's on another T1. Basically some 
type of hunting/pooling/load balancing.

Anyone heard of anything like this? Or am I off my rocker?

Thanks,
Mike
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[Asterisk-Users] snom 190: dial tone without registration?

2005-06-13 Thread alan
Hello.

I'm currently evaluating the Sipura SPA-841, and snom 190 phones for use
in an Asterisk PBX/call center environment.

One feature the SPA-841 has, which I can't figure out how to implement
on the snom 190, is the make/accept calls without registration
feature. Or more specifically, produce a dial tone even if I'm not
registered.

I would like to set our sip.conf entries to host=ipaddr instead of
host=dynamic to enforce the IP addresses used by each sip phone. If we
do this, Asterisk does not accept SIP registration from the phone on
that IP. This is fine with the SPA-841, but the snom 190 displays a NR
status (Not Registered), and refuses to play a dial tone when you take
the phone off-hook. The phone will place calls correctly, but it insists
on thinking it's in an error condition when it can't register.

Note that Asterisk's defaultip option in sip.conf isn't adequate,
because it doesn't deny access if the phone attempts to register from a
different IP.

Does anyone know how to do one of the following:
- tell the snom 190 not to register, but to use the outbound proxy for
  outgoing calls, and produce a dial tone anyway.
- tell Asterisk to enforce an IP address restriction for a specific SIP
  channel, but still accept an incoming registration from that IP.

Vitals:
- Asterisk 1.0.7
- snom 190 firmware 3.60i


Thanks,

Alan Ferrency
pair Networks, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month. 

W

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?


On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:

 Barton Fisher wrote:
 I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.  Why should I

 choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?  I found someone 
 offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month + 
 Loops.  Is this a good deal?
  Thanks
  Bart
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 Where are you located?  What CLEC gives you a T-1 for $290?


FWIW I provisioned a PRI and a DS-1 for $300 each. Don't know if I'm
getting a break for having a voice and a data circuit broken out from
one fiber drop, but that's what I'm paying here in Orange County. Also,
I had a business cable modem before, which was *allegedly* not shared
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coaster, as was the latency. The DS-1 cleared all that up.

/rg

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in largeinstallation

2005-06-13 Thread Brian C. Fertig
Just use a cisco with 5 T1 ports and have everything over IP use ultra
monkey to load balance your asterisk boxes.  I have found this works
very well.  

 
 
.o---o.
Brian Fertig
NOC/Network Engineer
Planet Telecom, Inc.
Tampa, FL Office

 

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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in
largeinstallation

Hi,

Please forgive my terminology, still a bit new to T1s and such.

I'm looking for a way to have 5 T1s from a carrier terminate into some
type
of box (multiplexer?), then be able to plug 7 asterisk servers into that
box
(each with single port T1 card) and be able to have 2 * servers go down
at 
any given time and not actually have the carrier see that anything has
happened.
Obviously if a * server crashes the calls on it at the time will drop,
but 
then once the box (multiplexer?) sees that a T1 is down (between the box

and asterisk) it will terminate those DS0's on another T1. Basically
some 
type of hunting/pooling/load balancing.

Anyone heard of anything like this? Or am I off my rocker?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wildly inaccurate CDR records

2005-06-13 Thread Moises Silva
An accurately CDR it depends, i think, the way you want to make the
bills. So its a combination of using NoCDR, ForkCDR commands and
billsec, disposition and other database fields manipulation. For
example, IAX calls may be recorded with very few time of duration if
you dont use the parameter notransfer=yes in iax.conf

could you give us a detailed example of what do you need? so we can
figure out a solution for your problem?

On 6/11/05, snacktime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/11/05, Obelix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Quoting Obelix [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Is this question too difficult, or is it simply one that only a few users 
  have
  experienced?
 
 I believe the forkcdr command is what you want, although I've never used it.
 
 Chris
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] snom 190: dial tone without registration?

2005-06-13 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Monday 13 June 2005 16:42, alan wrote:
 Hello.

 I'm currently evaluating the Sipura SPA-841, and snom 190 phones for use
 in an Asterisk PBX/call center environment.

How about tackling this with iptables and matching specific IP addresses on 
specific MAC addresses?

Cheers,
Gavin.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SIP-H.323 dial tone and busy tone problem.

2005-06-13 Thread Moises Silva
Hi Carlos. I have never used H323. But im interested in your problem.
Have you tried to use de 'sip debug' 'iax2 debug' commands? and check
the console with a high verbosity level? could you post any warning or
relevant output when the call is made?

best regards

On 6/11/05, Carlos Alberto Lara de Hoyos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings to the list:
 
 this is my problen when I make a call from my asterisk  towards a nortel
 PBX , the call is made but in my telephone sip I do not listen the dial tone
 or the busy tone but the call it is completed normally.
 
 
 
  sip-phone-g729-asteriskh323-g729--nortel-pbx
 
 thi is may configuration:
 
RedHat 8 2.4.18-14
Asterisk 1.0.7
The NuFone Network's Open H.323 Channel Driver
G.729/PCM16 Codec Translator
Raw G729 data
 
 It is a problem of codecs compatiblility or wath?
 
 Thanks to all.
 
 
 
 
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[Asterisk-Users] Interfacing to an IAD

2005-06-13 Thread Corwin Nichols
I'm considering switching my incoming phones lines from standard analog 
to a T-1 service from XO communications. They propose to bring in an 
IAD which has 12 lines of voice and 768k of internet bandwidth as part 
of a package deal. Since I want to keep the voice traffic in the digital 
domain the equipment they're proposing is a Lucent Digital Vina 
Integrator IAD with a digital TC card. I've searched the web to find 
any sort of info on how I can connect this IAD to my Asterisk box 
without success. What I find in general is that this kind of IAD can 
either provide analog voice output (POTS) or digital T-1 output. I 
presume the latter is what they're providing.


Is a digital T-1 from an IAD the same kind of interface as a PRI T-1? 
Would something like a Digium TE-110P handle this interface? Does anyone 
out there have experience with a Vina IAD with digital voice circuit output?


Thanks for any assistance.
-Corwin Nichols

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in largeinstallation

2005-06-13 Thread Trey Scarborough
It sounds like your looking for a t1 protection switch with will do what you 
want It can switch t1's for failover or  loss of signal on a t1. These are 
usualy rather expensive and Might work 100% in your example because they 
will only switch over if th actuall t1 goes down. So If your server 
dies/locks up and doesnt tell the t1 to go into alarm it will still think it 
is up and not switch to the other.



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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:35 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in 
largeinstallation




Hi,

Please forgive my terminology, still a bit new to T1s and such.

I'm looking for a way to have 5 T1s from a carrier terminate into some 
type
of box (multiplexer?), then be able to plug 7 asterisk servers into that 
box

(each with single port T1 card) and be able to have 2 * servers go down at
any given time and not actually have the carrier see that anything has 
happened.

Obviously if a * server crashes the calls on it at the time will drop, but
then once the box (multiplexer?) sees that a T1 is down (between the box
and asterisk) it will terminate those DS0's on another T1. Basically some
type of hunting/pooling/load balancing.

Anyone heard of anything like this? Or am I off my rocker?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ProSLIC 3210 version 2 is too old.

2005-06-13 Thread Hugh L. Johnson
Twas an issue with the card.  I tried a different TDM20B and it worked
perfectly.  RMA time.

 Whenever I load wcfxs I get ProSLIC 3210 version 2 is too old.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk code

2005-06-13 Thread Matt Riddell

Race Vanderdecken wrote:

Also subscribe to the asterisk-dev mail list. Watch it for a couple of
days before you ask a question or they will eat your lunch.


Or even more likely, eat you for lunch!

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[Asterisk-Users] DNIS and DID seeking confirmation

2005-06-13 Thread John Millican
Hello all,
After much googling I have come to the conclusion that in asterisk land 
DID(Direct Inward Dial) and DNIS(Dialed Number Identification Service) are 
used rather interchangeably. If this is an incorrect assumption Please 
correct me.  Based on this assumption if I have everthing set up to land in 
the [incoming] context and an 800# such as 1-800-123-4567 with 4 digit DNIS I 
can have an entry in my incoming context  exten = _4567, 1, do something  
this is where the call to my 800 number will land regardless of which trunk 
the call comes in on. Like wise if I have a DID number 456-7891 with an 
exten= _7891,1,do something else  this will also work.  Is this correct or 
am I way off base?
Also what is Asterisk looking for as far as a delimiter or is that in a config 
file?  Something like Seize (Wink) DNIS (Wink) ANI (Wink) Answer  or Seize 
(*) DNIS (*) ANI (*) Answer

John M
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[Asterisk-Users] Sip Trunking

2005-06-13 Thread Johann
I'm trying to setup SIP trunking between 2 asterisk servers.  Eventually 
there may be up to 5 servers linked together depending on the growth 
needed.  I have IAX2 trunking working, but I want both.


For simplicity, I have named the two servers, alpha and beta.  Extension 
7100 is a Polycom IP600 on alpha and extension 7300 is using kphone on 
beta.  Both ae using SIP.  Below are the relvenant parts of 
extensions.conf and sip.conf.


;# server alpha
; extensions.conf

[staff]
extension = 7100,Dial(SIP/7100)
extension = 7300,Goto(siptrunk,7300,1)

[siptrunk]
include = siptrunk-beta

[siptrunk-beta]
exten = _73XX,1,Dial(SIP/siptrunk-peer/${EXTEN})

; in sip.conf
[siptrunk-peer]
type=peer
username=siptrunk-peer
secret=password
host=beta's IP address

[siptrunk-user]
type=user
username=siptrunk-user
secret=password
host=beta's IP address

;# server beta
; extensions.conf

[staff]
extension = 7300,Dial(SIP/7300)
extension = 7100,Goto(siptrunk,7100,1)

[siptrunk]
include = siptrunk-alpha

[siptrunk-alpha]
exten = _71XX,1,Dial(SIP/siptrunk-peer/${EXTEN})

; in sip.conf
[siptrunk-peer]
type=peer
username=siptrunk-peer
secret=password
host=alpha's IP address

[siptrunk-user]
type=user
username=siptrunk-user
secret=password
host=alpha's IP address

When dialing 7300 from alpha, I get the following:
   -- Executing Dial(SIP/7000-e924, SIP/siptrunk-peer/7300) in new 
stack

   -- Called siptrunk-peer/7300
Jun 13 11:10:47 WARNING[18099]: chan_sip.c:694 retrans_pkt: Maximum 
retries exceeded on call 45a607bc5f66cfb363f2cc565b85fa29@alpha's IP 
address for seqno 102 (Critical Request)

 == No one is available to answer at this time

Any ideas?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 407 Proxy Authentication Required

2005-06-13 Thread aram
Title: 407 Proxy Authentication Required 








 We
also have the same problem over long latency networks  ATA also gives
Call Rejected: 407. We have tried a lot of different phones and soft
phones and the only one working is Xten. 

 In
any case this is apparently only problem with newer versions of * - you can use
very old version you can avoided the problem. We were not yet able to
find final solution for this problem.











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Proxy Authentication Required 





I am
getting error: Call rejected: 407 Proxy Authentication Required - if a user is
trying to call using * over a long latency network using sjphone  snom.

How to
overcome this..!! 
Pls advice..! 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Interfacing to an IAD

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
I have had experience with both the Vina and with XO.  If you ask for
it, you should be able to get an Adtran 600 series on the circuit.  I
never had any success with the Vina and it really is not a piece of
equipment I would bet the farm on.  They may have improved but I would
still just as fo ran AdTran since it definitely has a T1 interface that
works.

Cheers,
Wiley
 

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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Interfacing to an IAD

I'm considering switching my incoming phones lines from standard analog
to a T-1 service from XO communications. They propose to bring in an
IAD which has 12 lines of voice and 768k of internet bandwidth as part
of a package deal. Since I want to keep the voice traffic in the digital
domain the equipment they're proposing is a Lucent Digital Vina
Integrator IAD with a digital TC card. I've searched the web to find
any sort of info on how I can connect this IAD to my Asterisk box
without success. What I find in general is that this kind of IAD can
either provide analog voice output (POTS) or digital T-1 output. I
presume the latter is what they're providing.

Is a digital T-1 from an IAD the same kind of interface as a PRI T-1? 
Would something like a Digium TE-110P handle this interface? Does anyone
out there have experience with a Vina IAD with digital voice circuit
output?

Thanks for any assistance.
-Corwin Nichols

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Digium Website Update: Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread Esben Stien
trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Protecting freedoms by putting limits on (thus restricting
 freedoms).  Interesting concept.

I need to repeat here. The gpl's purpose is to protect the freedoms
that comes with free software. So, you have only the freedoms that
comes with free software as defined by the FSF. You are not allowed to
do what you like. You are constrained to the freedoms that follows the
software and I think that is a very interesting concept.

 copyright and license to use are different.

I never claimed otherwise. 

 You can technically put software out there with no copyright but
 under the gpl license

Then there would be no one to enforce the license, which would be bad.

 it only restricts *their* code (ie modifications).  

Yes, but we also want all modifications to be free

 the cost of restricting freedoms on others and what they can do
 with their code

Yes, by using the GPL you restrict everyone to the four freedoms
defined in the free software definition. This is exactly what we want.

 The BSD license for example lets your code remain free while giving
 people the freedom to create code of their own, as a modification of
 yours, and use their code how they want.

This is exactly the reason I choose GPL, because it doesn't allow
people to do whatever they want. They only have the freedoms that
comes with free software, which is exactly what we want. This ensures
that the code stays free and any modification too it is also
free. This is what we want and you obviously want something else.

When we, the saints of the church of emacs, speaks about free software
we are referring to the freedoms that comes with free software
(nothing more, nothing less). Free software has a definite definition
for us, which is that of the fsf.

 If people want your version they can always get that from you, and
 so it is intact as 'free'.

Yes, but we also want the modifications to the software to be free. We
basically want what's defined in the GPL.

 It does not give full unrestricted modification clauses.  

You can modify it as much as you want as long as the modifications
also are free, just as the original code.

 proposed GPL 3.0 

I rather not discuss GPL 3.0 before a draft. 

 Your version which you released 'free' would still be there.  In its
 unmodified glory.

By using the GPL, we also ensure that any modification to it, be
free. This is desired.

 The GPL does not ensure freedom to all

It ensures the freedoms that are defined in the free software
definition.

 it works like a parasite and infects future code 

Yes, this parasitic effect is exactly what we want. 

 All it does is force others who write code to be assimilated into the
 same doctrine.  

Yes, which is exactly what we want. If you choose to use GPL code, you
have to follow the rules.

 I guess what I am trying to say is that GPL does little to protect the
 original author

The copyright protects the original author by law. 

 it removes freedoms from subsequent authors by forcing them to
 license in the same way.

Yes, and that's what I love about free software. The software stays
free.

 it doesnt guarantee the freedom of subsequent authors, it curtails
 that freedom.

Once again, it only guarantee freedoms that follow free software. 

 And you can copyright (and infact do) without the GPL.

Yes, but we use the gpl to protect the freedoms that follows free software. 

 The GPL is *not* a copyright it is a license for use.  They are very
 different things.  You can copyright something and distro it without
 GPLing it.  

Indeed. 

 The free software continues to be as free as the author wants.

Yes, the copyright holder can do whatever he feels like with the
code. Once he puts a GPL on it and release it, the code is free for
ever and any modifications to it is also free. By holding the
copyright, he can also choose to change the license, but only on the
code that he holds the copyright of. The code that was released as
free, however, stays free.

 it does however curtail the freedoms of any subsequent authors that
 enhance the code.

Which again, it's the desired effect. 

 subsequent authors now have *no* choice in how they license it, they
 are forced to license it the same way as you, which curtails
 freedom.

Yes, glad you understand cause this is the purpose. The freedoms that
follow free software will continue to follow it and neither you nor
anyone else can change that.

 The modifications are the *only* difference between what you release and
 what they release, so if they use your code as a base and make changes
 to suit a particular need, their code, which they did write all of,
 cannot be licensed how they choose

This is exactly what we want. 

 the parasitic nature of the GPL means that their modifications,
 *their* code, must also be GPLed

You're just explaining what we want. 

 The GPL doesnt protect freedom, it curtails freedom of future
 developers.

The GPL protects the 

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk forking, Was: Digium Website Update:Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread The VoIP Connection
This is a very interesting converation, but it seems like the BIZ forum
might be more appropriate...

Michael Crown
Managing Partner
www.thevoipconnection.com
321.989.6728 ext. 611
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Lee Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:30 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk forking, Was: 
 Digium Website Update:Asterisk Business Edition
 
 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
 
 On Saturday 11 June 2005 19:51, Lee Howard wrote:
   
 
 I don't think that lack of mindshare completely defines 
 the reasons 
 behind Asterisk fork failures.  It places all of the blame on the 
 forkers.  I think the truth, though, is that they not only 
 fail due to 
 lack of mindshare but also due to competition from Digium's own 
 Asterisk community.  Forks are not succeeding, yes, but 
 Digium has a 
 hand in that... of course they do.
 
 
 
 I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious: how does Digium have a 
 hand in a fork failing?
   
 
 
 That's what I tried to explain in my last post, in particular 
 after this first statement.  Forks enter a hostile 
 competition rather than a healthy competition.
 
 I've heard more talk about Asterisk forks than I've ever 
 heard about 
 forks of any other other open-source project.  I think that 
 this says 
 something about how difficult-to-swallow Digium's 
 dual-license decree 
 is for a lot of prospective contributors/developers.
 
 
 
 I disagree; if it were that hard to swallow the project 
 would either be 
 90% digium-written (it's not) or it would be a total flop 
 (again it's not).
 
 
 If you (or someone else reading this post) is in a position 
 to give statistics on what percentage of the code is 
 Digium-written (or Digium-rewritten - in the case where a 
 disclaimer is not obtained for some unpatented work and 
 Digium rewrites the work independently) then I would be 
 thrilled to see it.
 
 We see this happen all of the time with the Linux kernel.  
 It happens 
 with HylaFAX.  It happened with X.  I'm sure it happens a lot with 
 many other open-source software projects.  It happens easily and 
 usually is a healthy process because the playing field is even.
 
 
 
 Agreed.   But where are the successful Asterisk forks?
   
 
 
 I don't know of any successful Asterisk forks (unless 
 http://www.asteriskwin32.com is considered successful - 
 although I'll admit that I'm not really in-the-know).  But 
 this was my point: that the way things were set up by Digium 
 makes a successful fork difficult.  
 Digium always has an upper-hand, and things were set up 
 intentionally this way.  Again, I don't take particular issue 
 with this.  I'm just trying to explain why forking Asterisk 
 would not be a particularly easy task.
 
 Of course, this healthy forking cannot be done with 
 Asterisk because 
 Digium will not accept any non-disclaimed code into their 
 repository.
 
 
 
 ... What you'd described about distribution-maintained patches has 
 nothing to do with this.  Digium could take a 
 distribution-maintained 
 patch and rewrite it into Asterisk proper under the dual license (as 
 could any other
 contributor) and you'd still gain the benefit of the patch.  I'm not 
 sure I see where you're going here.
   
 
 
 If you (or someone else reading this) has the necessary 
 information to provide statistics on how what percentage of 
 the code comes from rewrites of non-disclaimed code, then I 
 would be particularly interested in hearing it.  I suspect, 
 though, that it is a rather small - perhaps insignificant - 
 amount.  But, yes, providing that there is not a patent 
 involved - yes, the work could be rewritten and integrated.  
 But this was my point: that given the right environment forks 
 can benefit from each other.
 
 The one thing that an Asterisk fork can never do, though, is 
 relicense itself.  Only Diguim can do that.  If Digium had 
 wanted an equal footing in this regard then Asterisk would be 
 LGPL or BSD or something a bit more liberal.  So if I'm a 
 manufacturer of PBXes and have some proprietary IP that I do 
 not wish to be GPLed, then if I want to use Asterisk somehow, 
 then I can really only work with Digium for licensing.  All 
 of the other forks will be license-prohibitive.
 
 I have to admit that I know quite a few people with their 
 own modules 
 and such to replace what they feel is bad code and just won't 
 contribute it back to Asterisk due to the friction they've received 
 about the patch.  I, on the other hand, tend to bitch loud and 
 continuously enough and wear them down to the point of 
 accepting it.  
 :-)
   
 
 
 So we're not in disagreement, it would seem.  Getting code 
 contributions into Digium's Asterisk codebase is not 
 something that many average people are going to want to 
 undergo.  From what I've seen, friction is a bit light of a 
 term for it.  It seems much more 

RE: [Asterisk-Users] DNIS and DID seeking confirmation

2005-06-13 Thread jltaylor
DID number is the number commonly assigned to a PSTN trunk.

DNIS and DID may be the same.  DNIS refers to the Dialed Number that is
passed as signaling with the call (or on ss7).  Most calls have ANI and
DNIS.

Your extensions look ok, assuming that the carrier sends the digits that
match.

What Asterisk looks for is determined by how you have signaling setup in
your config for the card(s) that you have installed.  So, this must match
the signaling on the carrier side.

James Taylor
MetroTel
3505 Summerhill Road
Suite 11
Texarkana, Tx  75503
903-793-1956


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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:02 AM
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] DNIS and DID seeking confirmation


Hello all,
After much googling I have come to the conclusion that in asterisk land
DID(Direct Inward Dial) and DNIS(Dialed Number Identification Service) are
used rather interchangeably. If this is an incorrect assumption Please
correct me.  Based on this assumption if I have everthing set up to land in
the [incoming] context and an 800# such as 1-800-123-4567 with 4 digit DNIS
I
can have an entry in my incoming context  exten = _4567, 1, do something
this is where the call to my 800 number will land regardless of which trunk
the call comes in on. Like wise if I have a DID number 456-7891 with an
exten= _7891,1,do something else  this will also work.  Is this correct or
am I way off base?
Also what is Asterisk looking for as far as a delimiter or is that in a
config
file?  Something like Seize (Wink) DNIS (Wink) ANI (Wink) Answer  or Seize
(*) DNIS (*) ANI (*) Answer

John M
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk code

2005-06-13 Thread steve szmidt
On Monday 13 June 2005 12:06, Matt Riddell wrote:
 Race Vanderdecken wrote:
  Also subscribe to the asterisk-dev mail list. Watch it for a couple of
  days before you ask a question or they will eat your lunch.

 Or even more likely, eat you for lunch!

 :D
Phew! I thought lunches was going to start disappearing...
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk forking, Was: Digium Website Update:Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 13 June 2005 12:38, The VoIP Connection wrote:
 This is a very interesting converation, but it seems like the BIZ forum
 might be more appropriate...

How on earth is this a business-related discussion?  -dev would have been my 
guess.  :-)

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in large installation

2005-06-13 Thread qrss
The box that you are talking about sounds a lot like a DACS.  You might
google around on that term to see if any might have automatic failover.  A
DACS can be reconfigured to cross-connect various DS0s on the fly -
although, no matter how fast the switchover, the carrier will always see
that something happened.  Depending upon what type of signalling you are
using, the trunks could end up out of service for a period longer than it
takes to switch to the backup server.  Also, the system can potentially
fail in several ways.  At the T1 level, at the trunk level and at the
application level.  Depending upon the nature of the failure, the one-box
does it all solution seems unlikely to work - at least not by itself.

-Original Message-
From: Mike
Sent: Mon, June 13, 2005 11:35 am

Hi,

Please forgive my terminology, still a bit new to T1s and such.

I'm looking for a way to have 5 T1s from a carrier terminate into some
 type
of box (multiplexer?), then be able to plug 7 asterisk servers into that
 box
(each with single port T1 card) and be able to have 2 * servers go down at
any given time and not actually have the carrier see that anything has
 happened.
Obviously if a * server crashes the calls on it at the time will drop, but
then once the box (multiplexer?) sees that a T1 is down (between the box
and asterisk) it will terminate those DS0's on another T1. Basically some
type of hunting/pooling/load balancing.

Anyone heard of anything like this? Or am I off my rocker?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] snom 190: dial tone without registration?

2005-06-13 Thread alan
Gavin Hamill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 13 June 2005 16:42, alan wrote:

  I'm currently evaluating the Sipura SPA-841, and snom 190 phones for use
  in an Asterisk PBX/call center environment.

snipped
  enforce SIP channel IP restrictions in Asterisk without
  host=ipaddr, or get the snom 190 to stop complaining when it's not
  registered
/snipped

 How about tackling this with iptables and matching specific IP addresses on
 specific MAC addresses?

This solves part, but not all, of the problem.

This ensures that only authorized devices can connect to asterisk, and
that their IP addresses are also correct. But it doesn't force
each device to use only its assigned sip channel.

(That is: with dynamic IP registration, a valid IP/MAC could be
configured with another device's SIP registration information, and steal
calls which should be going to the other device.)

I suppose iptables in combination with sip secrets should be enough.

But realistically, I can already do what I want the way I want to do it,
with the SPA-841. I mostly need to decide: if this feature is lacking,
is it enough for me to prefer the Sipura over the snom?

Thanks again,

Alan Ferrency
pair Networks, Inc.
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[Asterisk-Users] More on the IAD connection

2005-06-13 Thread Corwin Nichols
As a follow-up to my previous post where I stated the IAD would be a 
Vina model, after some more prodding to XO, they have told me it will 
either be an Adtran TA-600 or a CAC Adit 600. These products are covered 
pretty well on the web and I have manuals on both. So, if those 
knowledgeable folks had to use one of these to attach to an Asterisk 
box, what interface would be best or at least workable?

Thanks,
-Corwin Nichols

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cepstral partnership with Digium

2005-06-13 Thread William Suffill
You will be able to purchase Cepstral voices from Digium just like you
dor for G729 already. I would guess it's 1 way to show the power of
asterisk by putting all the TTS orders thru a company such as Digium.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] More on the IAD connection

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
AdTran can come in either flavor depending on the modules they install.

It can dump analog lines or it can be fully digital and split off voice
T.
I would recommend the digital domain for sure.  
Get yourself a Digium T1 card and keep everything digital.
Get a block of DIDs (20 is the norm for XO) and you will have a great
solution.
Don't bother with analog lines.  They work but consider it this way.

T1 card = around $600 and can support up to 23 voice channels with 1
control data channel.
4 Port Analog - $330 - will never support more than 4 ports and IRQ
becomes issue as you add more cards

Obviously with a split T, you are not coing to use all 23 channels of
voice.
However, you will have room to grow, get better features, and avoid IRQ
problems (probably).

That is my $0.02.

Cheers,
Wiley



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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:58 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] More on the IAD connection

As a follow-up to my previous post where I stated the IAD would be a
Vina model, after some more prodding to XO, they have told me it will
either be an Adtran TA-600 or a CAC Adit 600. These products are covered
pretty well on the web and I have manuals on both. So, if those
knowledgeable folks had to use one of these to attach to an Asterisk
box, what interface would be best or at least workable?
Thanks,
-Corwin Nichols

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Re: Digium Website Update: Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread Esben Stien
Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ABE is a VERY SPECIFIC version of HEAD (or is it STABLE?) with
 features CUT OUT and nothing added that isn't in HEAD already.

This is what I mean with a custom set of features. I never claimed
anything was added.

 I totally fail to see the problem here.

The problem arises in two specific areas. Digium needs to hold the
copyright of the entire core code base to be able to use a different
license. This means that we cannot depend on f.ex sndfile or any other
gpl project to do a specific job. Code reuse becomes a thing you
cannot take advantage of. Digium cannot ship a proprietary product
that includes gpl code and this means that we have to do a lot more
work instead of using proven stable free code in the core of
asterisk. 

The other problem is the issue that free software developers are
mostly (in my experience) not happy with the fact that their code
would be used in proprietary software. It conflicts with the whole
religion of free software. This means that fewer contributions would
be expected and the development process goes slower. I can only speak
for myself, but please understand the clear conflict with the whole
philosophy of free software.

 This is exactly what they are doing.  They are supporting a very
 specific branch with an eye for stability and repeatability.

Yes, and as I tried to say; offer support on a said set of
features. It can also be a shape asterisk must be in, but it doesn't
have to be non free. 

 [..] Oh, it's CVS HEAD from 20050612 and anyway... what?  oh, [..]
 libc? [..] Six what? [..].  Digium's avoiding all this bullshit.
 It's a specific version of Asterisk compiled by them.  This is a
 good thing, not a bad thing.

They can still do this with free software. You can choose to offer
support on what you want, pre compiled versions or not, but this whole
idea of dual licensing is hurting us, in my opinion.

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[Asterisk-Users] Zaptel modules

2005-06-13 Thread Bouchra Benyelloul
I can't load module wcfxs or wcfxo with modprobe command, I don't have
any error message, and when i try to start zaptel I've the error below
when :
 ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 4: Invalid argument (22)
 Did you forget that FXS interfaces are configured with FXO signalling
 and that FXO interfaces use FXS signalling?

Anyone can help me?
Thanks.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Zaptel modules

2005-06-13 Thread Moises Silva
as the error says did you forget how to configure FXO and FXS
interfaces signalling?
post your configs if in doubt...

best regards

On 6/13/05, Bouchra Benyelloul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't load module wcfxs or wcfxo with modprobe command, I don't have
 any error message, and when i try to start zaptel I've the error below
 when :
  ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 4: Invalid argument (22)
  Did you forget that FXS interfaces are configured with FXO signalling
  and that FXO interfaces use FXS signalling?
 
 Anyone can help me?
 Thanks.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Digium Website Update: Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 18:20 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
 trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Protecting freedoms by putting limits on (thus restricting
  freedoms).  Interesting concept.
 
 I need to repeat here. The gpl's purpose is to protect the freedoms
 that comes with free software. So, you have only the freedoms that
 comes with free software as defined by the FSF. You are not allowed to
 do what you like. You are constrained to the freedoms that follows the
 software and I think that is a very interesting concept.
 

Its not a freedom if its a limit.  That is my point.  The GPL doesnt
give freedoms it takes them away by putting limits on other peoples
code, not the original authors.  Now if the author is ok with infringing
on the rights of others then the GPL is a good choice, however if the
original author is truely fore freedom in the code process, not the
double speak freedom that FSF talks about (where freedom means taking
away abilities) then they should not follow like sheep and repeat what
the FSF says (which on its face is an outright lie since its not freedom
that it grants).


  copyright and license to use are different.
 
 I never claimed otherwise. 

If you were the person that was quoting the FSF as fact then you did.
Too bad it got cut out, but you can always go back to the original post
that was claiming freedom means putting limits on people other than
yourself.


 
  You can technically put software out there with no copyright but
  under the gpl license
 
 Then there would be no one to enforce the license, which would be bad.
 

Why do you cut out what I said when I addressed that point?  I am
begining to think that you are doing it intentionally now.


  it only restricts *their* code (ie modifications).  
 
 Yes, but we also want all modifications to be free
 

'we' or you specifically?  We is quite a loaded word.  The FSF makes a
false claim that it *protects* freedoms, when all it does is limit the
freedoms of others to write code.  Specifically if I take a program and
modify it, the original is still under whatever license I got it in, but
*my* code, the modifications are MINE not the original authors.  The
original author has NO right to claim that it is their work, nor do they
have copyright on *my* code.  But by releasing it under a GPL they can
force me to use a license that I may not agree with.  This is the reason
that I dont contribute to GPL products, I dont like the idea of someone
else dictating to me how I will distribute *my* code.  

The default GPL makes it a lciense violation to run GPL code on a
commercial (or even BSD) system.  Extra stuff has to be put into the GPL
license to say 'its ok if you link this against non GPL libraries and
such'.  That is not the default, so technically unless someone did that
putting a stock GPL license has other limitations on its mere use.  At
least historically libc on aix, hpux, sunos (4/5), irix were all not GPL
libc (I dont know with solaris now they added a bunch of gpl stuff at
one point).  If any of the GPL licensed software did not take an overt
action to say its ok to run it on those operating systems then its a
license violation.  

That level of selective enforcement also calls into question the legal
standing of the license (if certain sections are not enforced the whole
agreement can be voided on first court challenge).

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCLinkingOverControlledInterface
for linking proprietary code to libraries - overt actions required to
make it work right

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCGPLCommercially
for reading up on how the license affects others who write code later

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCGPLIncompatibleAlone
for reading on how you cant really link against libc on a commercial
operating system (or anything with a license that is not compatible with
the GPL, which BSD isnt becuase it allows someone to take it, write
*their own* code in addition to it and not give *their own* code out.
Thus by default you cant run GPL software on a BSD licensed system, nor
any commercial system *unless* the developer took an overt action to say
this is ok (default GPL it is not ok).

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCDistributeWithSourceOnInternet
for the lack of personal privacy that the GPL forces on those that
choose to release under it, specifically you *must* (section 3) provide
a mailing address.  If you value your privacy and dont want everyone to
have your address you must pay extra to get a po box so that you, as the
author of the software, can comply with section 3 of the GPL - providing
copies by mailorder on physical media.  This is *required* not optional.

The list goes on...


  the cost of restricting freedoms on others and what they can do
  with their code
 
 Yes, by using the GPL you restrict everyone to the four freedoms
 defined in the free software definition. This is exactly what we want.
 

Again with the 

[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk connecting remote villages in western Uganda

2005-06-13 Thread Mark Summer

Hi,

I though some of you on this list might be interested in what Inveneo  
is doing in Uganda. We are a San Francisco based non-profit  
organization that builds rugged, low-cost, highly reliable and open- 
source communications systems for under-served communities around the  
world. We have just completed our first installation in western  
Uganda, Africa.


The system is up and running since this past Wednesday (June 8th). We  
have installed 5 units, 4 of which are in villages with with no  
access to power. The system provides Internet access and phone  
capabilities to the users. Phone calls among the connected villages  
are free of charge, with the ability to place and receive calls to /  
from  the Ugandan phone network and voice mail boxes for each  
station. The systems are linked using 802.11 WiFi links.


For more information please have a look at the following links:

For more detailed information and pictures of the Uganda deployment:

http://www.inveneo.org/?q=uganda

For more information about the solution we have built and  
implemented, here is a link to our PDF datasheet:


http://www.inveneo.org/download/inveneoDatasheet.pdf

And of course our website:

http://www.inveneo.org/


Thank you!

Mark


Mark Summer
co-founder, Inveneo
web:   http://www.inveneo.org
phone: +1-415-901-1969 x 1200
FWD:   603303
cell:  +1-415-867-9751
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in large installation

2005-06-13 Thread Leon Sun
Use Adtran Atlas 800. 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: June 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] T1 multiplexer (or ?) for failover in large
installation

The box that you are talking about sounds a lot like a DACS.  You might
google around on that term to see if any might have automatic failover.  A
DACS can be reconfigured to cross-connect various DS0s on the fly -
although, no matter how fast the switchover, the carrier will always see
that something happened.  Depending upon what type of signalling you are
using, the trunks could end up out of service for a period longer than it
takes to switch to the backup server.  Also, the system can potentially
fail in several ways.  At the T1 level, at the trunk level and at the
application level.  Depending upon the nature of the failure, the one-box
does it all solution seems unlikely to work - at least not by itself.

-Original Message-
From: Mike
Sent: Mon, June 13, 2005 11:35 am

Hi,

Please forgive my terminology, still a bit new to T1s and such.

I'm looking for a way to have 5 T1s from a carrier terminate into some
 type
of box (multiplexer?), then be able to plug 7 asterisk servers into that
 box
(each with single port T1 card) and be able to have 2 * servers go down at
any given time and not actually have the carrier see that anything has
 happened.
Obviously if a * server crashes the calls on it at the time will drop, but
then once the box (multiplexer?) sees that a T1 is down (between the box
and asterisk) it will terminate those DS0's on another T1. Basically some
type of hunting/pooling/load balancing.

Anyone heard of anything like this? Or am I off my rocker?

Thanks,
Mike
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[Asterisk-Users] Hiss patch

2005-06-13 Thread Scott England




In bug 0002863 a patch is mentioned that sends hiss every 20 seconds, does anyone know who wrote this or where it is available at?

Scott England


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[Asterisk-Users] DID in AMP with 2+ incoming lines

2005-06-13 Thread Tomas Florian
Hello,

I know that I can have DID on a single line, but will AMP support 2+ lines
with DID?

Has anyone tried this?  Straight forward?

Thank you,
Tomas



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Digium Website Update: Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning

quote who=trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com;
 Protecting freedoms by putting limits on (thus restricting freedoms).
 Interesting concept.

It maybe an interesting concept, but it is absolutely true.
True anarchy (no rules what so ever) cannot exist.

Your freedom to kill me would impose on my freedom to live.

Lift all laws and the law of the universe seems to come into play.
The strong rules the weak.  You end up with a dictatorship.

To keep something free, there must be a law stopping it from not
becoming not free.  (bad english, but there it is. :) )

-- 
And, did Guloka think the Ulus were too ugly to save?
 -Centauri

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk connecting remote villages in westernUganda

2005-06-13 Thread Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)
Mark,

This is a wonderful thing to do for underserved societies like Uganda.

The datasheet you have provided and the layout could be the model for
many other developing societies both In Africa as well as central and
South America.

Kudos to Inveneo.org under your able leadership. Keep up the good work.

Seshu Kanuri


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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:56 PM
To: Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk connecting remote villages in
westernUganda

Hi,

I though some of you on this list might be interested in what Inveneo is
doing in Uganda. We are a San Francisco based non-profit organization
that builds rugged, low-cost, highly reliable and open- source
communications systems for under-served communities around the world. We
have just completed our first installation in western Uganda, Africa.

The system is up and running since this past Wednesday (June 8th). We
have installed 5 units, 4 of which are in villages with with no access
to power. The system provides Internet access and phone capabilities to
the users. Phone calls among the connected villages are free of charge,
with the ability to place and receive calls to / from  the Ugandan phone
network and voice mail boxes for each station. The systems are linked
using 802.11 WiFi links.

For more information please have a look at the following links:

For more detailed information and pictures of the Uganda deployment:

http://www.inveneo.org/?q=uganda

For more information about the solution we have built and implemented,
here is a link to our PDF datasheet:

http://www.inveneo.org/download/inveneoDatasheet.pdf

And of course our website:

http://www.inveneo.org/


Thank you!

Mark


Mark Summer
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web:   http://www.inveneo.org
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FWD:   603303
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[Asterisk-Users] Unable to support trunking .... without zaptel timing

2005-06-13 Thread Geoff Manning
When I start Asterisk, I receive these errors:

Jun 13 16:26:05 WARNING[2870] chan_iax2.c: Unable to support trunking on
user 'gv_trunk' without zaptel timing
Jun 13 16:26:05 WARNING[2870] chan_iax2.c: Unable to support trunking on
peer 'gv_trunk' without zaptel timing
Jun 13 16:26:05 WARNING[2870] chan_iax2.c: Unable to support trunking on
user 'zoom_trunk' without zaptel timing
Jun 13 16:26:05 WARNING[2870] chan_iax2.c: Unable to support trunking on
peer 'zoom_trunk' without zaptel timing

I have a TE110P card and IAX setup between two servers that appear to work
fine. The only reason this has come to my attention is when I was trouble
shooting an error with our Mitle SX200 that was reporting:

T1/BRI Card at 02 06 00 00
Has exceeded the maint loss frame threshold.

My main question is in regards to the timing error but if anyone has any
Mitel experience (scott w!) that has seen this other error.= I'd be happy to
hear about it

Here is zapata.conf:

[trunkgroups]

[channels]

musiconhold=default

busydetect=1
busycount=7

relaxdtmf=yes
callwaiting=yes
callwaitingcallerid=yes
threewaycalling=yes
transfer=yes
cancallforward=yes
echocancel=yes
echocancelwhenbridged=yes

callgroup=1
pickupgroup=1

immediate=no

signalling=em_w
context=zap-incoming
group = 1
channel = 1-17

group = 2
channel = 21-24


Here is zaptel.conf

loadzone= us
defaultzone = us

span=1,1,0,d4,ami
em=1-24


Here is lsmod:

Module  Size  Used by
snd_pcm_oss47648  0
snd_pcm83336  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  23812  1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc  9604  1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss  16896  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd51044  4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore  10080  1 snd
ipv6  232320  10
wcte11xp   25760  21
zaptel224132  43 wcte11xp
i2c_i8018204  0
i2c_core   21392  1 i2c_i801
hisax 483920  0
crc_ccitt   2176  2 zaptel,hisax
isdn  128716  1 hisax
slhc6912  1 isdn
ext3  124424  4
jbd55064  1 ext3
genrtc  9608  0
evdev   9088  0
pcspkr  3940  0
parport_pc 33220  0
parport33864  1 parport_pc
piix9988  0 [permanent]
ehci_hcd   30728  0
pci_hotplug31152  0
uhci_hcd   29584  0
usbcore   107896  3 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
tg379364  0
ide_generic 1408  0 [permanent]
ide_cd 38020  0
ide_core  115668  3 piix,ide_generic,ide_cd
cdrom  36384  1 ide_cd
font8448  0
ata_piix9092  10
libata 42756  1 ata_piix
unix   26804  12

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Voicemail and MS Exchange Synchronizatio n

2005-06-13 Thread David Brodbeck
 -Original Message-
 From: Iassen Hristov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Does this matter? All we are saying is that Exchange supports 
 IMAP and we
 would use IMAP as the protocol to delete the message from the user's
 mailbox. How does the user access his mailbox is his choice.

I think two threads of discussion got crossed.  Somewhere along the line
someone brought up the idea of having Asterisk act like an IMAP *server*
where people could retrieve their voicemails.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange Synchronization

2005-06-13 Thread David Brodbeck


 -Original Message-
 From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 11:28 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange 
 Synchronization
 
 
 On 6/10/05, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually I think that has changed to 75gb now (or about to change).
  

 Really? any links to support that? Since when is Micro$oft so easy on
 giving up on licensing fees?

I'm curious, too.  If this is true it might save us a lot of pain, upgrade
wise.  We've been looking at moving away from Exchange entirely because of
that damn 16-gig limit, and Exchange Enterprise Edition is just too
expensive.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk forking, Was: Digium Website Up date:Asterisk Business Edition

2005-06-13 Thread David Brodbeck
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Kohlsmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Monday 13 June 2005 12:38, The VoIP Connection wrote:
  This is a very interesting converation, but it seems like 
 the BIZ forum
  might be more appropriate...
 
 How on earth is this a business-related discussion?  -dev 
 would have been my 
 guess.  :-)

Maybe we need an anti-biz list for this kind of thing. ;)
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Re: Digium Website Update: Asterisk Busi ness Edition

2005-06-13 Thread David Brodbeck
 -Original Message-
 From: Esben Stien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The other problem is the issue that free software developers are
 mostly (in my experience) not happy with the fact that their code
 would be used in proprietary software. It conflicts with the whole
 religion of free software.

Well, yeah, that's the whole problem, isn't it?  You can't follow the
religion of free software and still run a company that pays the bills.
You have to compromise somewhere.  Either you go out of business, or you
tick off some of the open source purists.  Interesting perspective on this
from Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2005/05/26/cz_dl_0526linux.html
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Components and suggestions for an asterisk server with 9 to 17 POTS.

2005-06-13 Thread Andrew Latham
A small simple non Dell system and T1/E1 card. If you can even think
about 17 lines then start with a PRI. Most PRIs can be ordered as
small as 4 lines voice and 768 data that leaves ~8 voice channels
open.

I can give you system specs off list as the change often.

On 6/13/05, Ken Dresdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 
 Hello, 
 
   
 
 What would be the simplest and the cheapest solution to get an Asterisk
 server working with 9 to 17 POTS? 
 
   
 
 Because for 1-8 POTS we are using 1 or 2 Digium TDM cards and past 17 POTS
 in our area it is economic to use a PRI. 
 
   
 
 We are looking for a hardware solution on our side instead of using did
 provider 
 
   
 
 Thanks in advance 
 
   
 
 Ken 
 
   
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[Asterisk-Users] VOIP-INFO.ORG website bug

2005-06-13 Thread Ing CIP Alejandro Celi =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=E1tegui?=

When I try to fing group/call pickup command in www.voip-info.org and
made a search like

*8

I got an error message.

Regards,

-- 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Digium Website Update: Asterisk BusinessEdition

2005-06-13 Thread Terry H. Gilsenan
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
 Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 3:51 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Digium Website Update: 
 Asterisk BusinessEdition
 
 On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 18:20 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
  trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   Protecting freedoms by putting limits on (thus restricting 
   freedoms).  Interesting concept.
  
  I need to repeat here. The gpl's purpose is to protect the freedoms 
  that comes with free software. So, you have only the freedoms that 
  comes with free software as defined by the FSF. You are not 
 allowed to 
  do what you like. You are constrained to the freedoms that 
 follows the 
  software and I think that is a very interesting concept.
  
 
 Its not a freedom if its a limit.  That is my point.  The GPL 
 doesnt give freedoms it takes them away by putting limits on 
 other peoples code, not the original authors.  Now if the 
 author is ok with infringing on the rights of others then the 
 GPL is a good choice, however if the original author is 
 truely fore freedom in the code process, not the double speak 
 freedom that FSF talks about (where freedom means taking away 
 abilities) then they should not follow like sheep and repeat 
 what the FSF says (which on its face is an outright lie since 
 its not freedom that it grants).
 

Ahem,

The GPL is about the freedown of the code, not the freedom of the individual


 
   copyright and license to use are different.
  
  I never claimed otherwise. 
 
 If you were the person that was quoting the FSF as fact then you did.
 Too bad it got cut out, but you can always go back to the 
 original post that was claiming freedom means putting limits 
 on people other than yourself.
 
 
  
   You can technically put software out there with no copyright but 
   under the gpl license
  
  Then there would be no one to enforce the license, which 
 would be bad.
  
 
 Why do you cut out what I said when I addressed that point?  
 I am begining to think that you are doing it intentionally now.
 
 
   it only restricts *their* code (ie modifications).  
  
  Yes, but we also want all modifications to be free
  
 
 'we' or you specifically?  We is quite a loaded word.  The 
 FSF makes a false claim that it *protects* freedoms, when all 
 it does is limit the freedoms of others to write code.  
 Specifically if I take a program and modify it, the original 
 is still under whatever license I got it in, but
 *my* code, the modifications are MINE not the original 
 authors.  The original author has NO right to claim that it 
 is their work, nor do they have copyright on *my* code.  But 
 by releasing it under a GPL they can force me to use a 
 license that I may not agree with.  This is the reason that I 
 dont contribute to GPL products, I dont like the idea of 
 someone else dictating to me how I will distribute *my* code.  
 
 The default GPL makes it a lciense violation to run GPL code 
 on a commercial (or even BSD) system.  Extra stuff has to be 
 put into the GPL license to say 'its ok if you link this 
 against non GPL libraries and such'.  That is not the 
 default, so technically unless someone did that putting a 
 stock GPL license has other limitations on its mere use.  At 
 least historically libc on aix, hpux, sunos (4/5), irix were 
 all not GPL libc (I dont know with solaris now they added a 
 bunch of gpl stuff at one point).  If any of the GPL licensed 
 software did not take an overt action to say its ok to run it 
 on those operating systems then its a license violation.  
 
 That level of selective enforcement also calls into question 
 the legal standing of the license (if certain sections are 
 not enforced the whole agreement can be voided on first court 
 challenge).
 
 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCLinkingOverControl
ledInterface
 for linking proprietary code to libraries - overt actions 
 required to make it work right
 
 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCGPLCommercially
 for reading up on how the license affects others who write code later
 
 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCGPLIncompatibleAlone
 for reading on how you cant really link against libc on a 
 commercial operating system (or anything with a license that 
 is not compatible with the GPL, which BSD isnt becuase it 
 allows someone to take it, write *their own* code in addition 
 to it and not give *their own* code out.
 Thus by default you cant run GPL software on a BSD licensed 
 system, nor any commercial system *unless* the developer took 
 an overt action to say this is ok (default GPL it is not ok).
 
 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCDistributeWithSour
ceOnInternet
 for the lack of personal privacy that the GPL forces on those 
 that choose to release under it, specifically you *must* 
 (section 3) 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Group/Broadcast Voicemail

2005-06-13 Thread Robert Goodyear


On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:14 PM, Chris Stinson wrote:


Robert Goodyear wrote:

On Jun 9, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Robert Goodyear wrote:


On Jun 9, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Chris Stinson wrote:

I was told to change in app_voicemail.c in the function vm_exec 
set the tmp[256] to be tmp[4096] in an earlier replay so I did.


static int vm_exec(struct ast_channel *chan, void *data)
{
int res=0, silent=0, busy=0, unavail=0;
struct localuser *u;
char tmp[4096], *ext;

I guess it has to be changed somewhere else. It's on 4096 right now 
under the vm_exec. Evidently it needs to be changed elsewhere.





Noted, but I was wondering if you could try to shorten the arguments 
to see if that is, in fact, the issue before mucking around with 
source and recompiling.



In the spirit of the aforementioned mucking around, it feels like 
BASEMAXINLINE might be the culprit. I am NOT a C guy, but just 
looking at it and then where BASEMAXINLINE is called (linked list of 
users) looks like it might pay off. Try messing with that constant 
and see what blows up :-)

-Rob.
Well, since I don't know jack about programming I will try to cut it 
down some :)



So... any luck? If you can't adjust that list of users in the dialplan, 
let me know and I'll play with the code and recompile.


/rg




Robert Goodyear
Brand Up LLC
http://www.brand-up.com

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange Synchronization

2005-06-13 Thread Race Vanderdecken
Yeah, if you get the Microsoft Partners Newsletter emails they reported
the 75 GB expansion today.


Increased Storage Limit in Exchange Server Standard Edition 

Get more out of mission-critical email. In the fall of 2005 the storage
limit for Exchange Server 2003 Standard Edition will increase to 75
gigabytes.

It took me a while to find it through the links the give you. But here
it is

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/downloads/2003/sp2/overview.mspx

Then scroll to the bottom of the page...


Mailbox Advancements
Drive down operational costs and the complexity of your messaging
environments with advances such as:

. Increase in mailbox storage size limits to 75 gigabyte (GB) for
Exchange Server 2003 Standard Edition in response to customer feedback
and evolving mailbox storage needs.
 
. New offline address book format offers significantly improved
performance.
 
. Cache mode enforcement with added flexibility. You now can force
clients into cached mode to help improve performance and increase the
number of active users per server. This is especially beneficial to
organizations seeking to further site and server consolidation.
 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Brodbeck
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:56 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange Synchronization



 -Original Message-
 From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 11:28 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange 
 Synchronization
 
 
 On 6/10/05, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually I think that has changed to 75gb now (or about to change).
  

 Really? any links to support that? Since when is Micro$oft so easy on
 giving up on licensing fees?

I'm curious, too.  If this is true it might save us a lot of pain,
upgrade
wise.  We've been looking at moving away from Exchange entirely because
of
that damn 16-gig limit, and Exchange Enterprise Edition is just too
expensive.
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[Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
Title: MCI vs. XO/Allegiance






Hello All,


Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or XO/Allegiance? 

Gotta make the choice today and the difference per month is only about $25 in favor of MCI.


Billing is pretty much the same between the two so I have pretty much no point of reference on which to choose.

Any thoughts from anyone experienced with these two compnies would be greatly appreciated!


Thanks,

Wiley



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Evening in Melbourne (again!)nextThursday

2005-06-13 Thread Paul Hales
Make it there if you can!

PaulH

On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 13:16 +1000, jurgen wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 If you're in Melbourne Australia and interested in Asterisk, you're
 invited to join us for the second in an irregularly scheduled casual
 evening to talk about Asterisk, VOIP, networks, and just generally get
 geeky about IP phone stuff. About a dozen of us got together a couple
 of months ago, and had a good time chatting about all things Asterisk.
 Beverages were also consumed.
 
 Anyone with an interest is welcome; from Asterisk Gods to newbies who
 have recently downloaded it, from people administering several hundred
 seats to people playing with it at home and annoying their families.
 
 When: Next Thursday evening, the 16th, at 7pm.
 Where: Niagara Hotel, 383 Lonsdale Street (between Queen and
 Elizabeth) in the city. 
 
 The Niagara's a relaxed, comfortable place, people seemed to like it
 last time. Also, like last time, I'll get an old phone and put it on
 the table, so those of us who haven't met will be able to recognise
 each other.
 
 Any questions, you can reach me on 0415 276 127, or email
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hope to see you there!
 
 ...jurgen
 
 -- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is jurgen's gmail address.
 Visit http://jurgen.ca/ for more yummy goodness. 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread David Coulson


Wiley Siler wrote:
 Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or XO/Allegiance? 

We have a DS-3 full of PRI from X/O. They work great, mostly, but their
tech support sucks. They screw up number ports all the time and about
every week there is some local number I can't dial to via XO which once
I open a ticket mysteriously gets fixed without a good explanation.
Eventually everything works, but you have to beat on them continously to
get things done.

Better than dealing with SBC though.

David

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread Paul Traue, Jr.
I'm using an XO pri, and as long as you never change anything on the pri 
XO's not bad.  Our experience is that if you chance anything on the PRI 
configuration they'll screw it up somehow (YMMV).  One thing we have 
learned is that XO doesn't monitor our voice circuits, so if one of our 
PRI's goes down, we have to notify them almost immediately or they 
decommission it so the alert goes away.


Paul

Wiley Siler wrote:

Hello All,

Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or XO/Allegiance? 
Gotta make the choice today and the difference per month is only about 
$25 in favor of MCI.


Billing is pretty much the same between the two so I have pretty much no 
point of reference on which to choose.
Any thoughts from anyone experienced with these two compnies would be 
greatly appreciated!


Thanks,
Wiley




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RE: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread Leon Sun
I prefer MCI since we use their pri and internet. MCI's support is very pro.



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Wiley Siler wrote:
 Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or XO/Allegiance? 

We have a DS-3 full of PRI from X/O. They work great, mostly, but their
tech support sucks. They screw up number ports all the time and about
every week there is some local number I can't dial to via XO which once
I open a ticket mysteriously gets fixed without a good explanation.
Eventually everything works, but you have to beat on them continously to
get things done.

Better than dealing with SBC though.

David

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] snom 190: dial tone without registration?

2005-06-13 Thread Karl Brose


You should use DHCP to enforce IP address to MAC binding when the phones 
boot.
And then let the phones register and use host access (deny/permit) 
permissions in peer section to restrict by IP address/mask.



alan wrote:


Gavin Hamill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


On Monday 13 June 2005 16:42, alan wrote:

   


I'm currently evaluating the Sipura SPA-841, and snom 190 phones for use
in an Asterisk PBX/call center environment.
 



snipped
 enforce SIP channel IP restrictions in Asterisk without
 host=ipaddr, or get the snom 190 to stop complaining when it's not
 registered
/snipped

 


How about tackling this with iptables and matching specific IP addresses on
specific MAC addresses?
   



This solves part, but not all, of the problem.

This ensures that only authorized devices can connect to asterisk, and
that their IP addresses are also correct. But it doesn't force
each device to use only its assigned sip channel.

(That is: with dynamic IP registration, a valid IP/MAC could be
configured with another device's SIP registration information, and steal
calls which should be going to the other device.)

I suppose iptables in combination with sip secrets should be enough.

But realistically, I can already do what I want the way I want to do it,
with the SPA-841. I mostly need to decide: if this feature is lacking,
is it enough for me to prefer the Sipura over the snom?

Thanks again,

Alan Ferrency
pair Networks, Inc.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
Well, the fact that two negatives for XO and a positive for MCI all came
at once says a lot to me.

Interestingly enough their SLA reads...

*   24/7/365 Network Monitoring and Service. If for some reason your
network is having problems, the chances are XO will know about it before
you do and respond before any problems become critical.

Thanks!
Wiley
 

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Traue, Jr.
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:23 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

I'm using an XO pri, and as long as you never change anything on the pri
XO's not bad.  Our experience is that if you chance anything on the PRI
configuration they'll screw it up somehow (YMMV).  One thing we have
learned is that XO doesn't monitor our voice circuits, so if one of our
PRI's goes down, we have to notify them almost immediately or they
decommission it so the alert goes away.

Paul

Wiley Siler wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or XO/Allegiance? 
 Gotta make the choice today and the difference per month is only about

 $25 in favor of MCI.
 
 Billing is pretty much the same between the two so I have pretty much
no 
 point of reference on which to choose.
 Any thoughts from anyone experienced with these two compnies would be 
 greatly appreciated!
 
 Thanks,
 Wiley
 
 


 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread mattf
Let me throw another complaint against XO on the table. They actually shut
off the wrong T1 and they transferred all of the DIDs to the T1 they shut
off! how screwed up is that? We are now about 2 years later and their
billing department still calls us every month for nonpayment of the T1 that
they turned off.

We also have 6 T1s through MCI, all long distance. They have been much
better to deal with.

MATT---

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Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance


Well, the fact that two negatives for XO and a positive for MCI all came
at once says a lot to me.

Interestingly enough their SLA reads...

*   24/7/365 Network Monitoring and Service. If for some reason your
network is having problems, the chances are XO will know about it before
you do and respond before any problems become critical.

Thanks!
Wiley
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Traue, Jr.
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:23 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

I'm using an XO pri, and as long as you never change anything on the pri
XO's not bad.  Our experience is that if you chance anything on the PRI
configuration they'll screw it up somehow (YMMV).  One thing we have
learned is that XO doesn't monitor our voice circuits, so if one of our
PRI's goes down, we have to notify them almost immediately or they
decommission it so the alert goes away.

Paul

Wiley Siler wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or XO/Allegiance? 
 Gotta make the choice today and the difference per month is only about

 $25 in favor of MCI.
 
 Billing is pretty much the same between the two so I have pretty much
no 
 point of reference on which to choose.
 Any thoughts from anyone experienced with these two compnies would be 
 greatly appreciated!
 
 Thanks,
 Wiley
 
 


 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Damon Estep
You are aware that DSL (even SDSL) is half duplex and a T1 is full
duplex, right?

1.5m sdsl can only do 768 sustained duplex, or 1.5 out 0 in, or 0 out
1.5 in. a T1 will do 1.5 in and 1.5 out sustained.

This is due to a separate transmit and receive path on a t1 and a shared
path on sdsl.

The s in sdsl means symmetrical, not duplex, that is that the signaling
rate is the same in either direction, but still half duplex.

For VoIP a t1 is worth double what a 1.5 sdsl is because of the duplex
nature of the traffic, unlike most internet that is download-centric.

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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month. 

W

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?


On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:

 Barton Fisher wrote:
 I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.  Why should I

 choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?  I found someone 
 offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month + 
 Loops.  Is this a good deal?
  Thanks
  Bart
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 Where are you located?  What CLEC gives you a T-1 for $290?


FWIW I provisioned a PRI and a DS-1 for $300 each. Don't know if I'm
getting a break for having a voice and a data circuit broken out from
one fiber drop, but that's what I'm paying here in Orange County. Also,
I had a business cable modem before, which was *allegedly* not shared
for business customers (suspicious) and the throughput was a roller
coaster, as was the latency. The DS-1 cleared all that up.

/rg

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[Asterisk-Users] problem with pf and asterisk

2005-06-13 Thread Frank Cases
current setup

SIP phone 192.168.1.30 -- linksys wrt54g sveasoft -- INTERNET --
(xl0) Firewall (xl2:172.16.0.50)-- (em1:172.16.0.101) Asterisk


problem is RTP stream not oging trouhg from * to sip and vice versa.

#1 and asterusk  is pushing 192.168.1.30 back to linksys with 172 as
return address
or 
#2 asterisk trying to get back to me as 192.168 on public internet..



got
canreinvite=yes and no.
nat=yes
qualify=1000

externaladdr=IP of (em1)
localnet=172.16.0.0/12



i would need help form someone who did a sismilar setup.. 

i do run carp and pfsync also on the FW. mirrored to FW2 down ATM...

anyhelp appreciated.. banging head on the wall for 2 weeks now..
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Marcelo Pacheco
SDSL has symmetrical speeds and full duplex communications.
Of the widely deployed lan/wan technologies, the only one I know of that is 
half-duplex is 802.11{b,g}.

The only technical difference between a T1 and SDSL is how it's physically 
delivered to the customer, what usually happens is that a T1 is not oversold, 
while an SDSL is oversold anywhere from 8:1 to 3:1.

ADSL is full duplex as well, if you don't know how to do QOS then it will feel 
like it's half duplex, but it's not. I have 1000/320 ADSL that I can use full 
bandwidth both ways.

Marcelo Pacheco

Em Seg 13 Jun 2005 20:54, Damon Estep escreveu:
 You are aware that DSL (even SDSL) is half duplex and a T1 is full
 duplex, right?

 1.5m sdsl can only do 768 sustained duplex, or 1.5 out 0 in, or 0 out
 1.5 in. a T1 will do 1.5 in and 1.5 out sustained.

 This is due to a separate transmit and receive path on a t1 and a shared
 path on sdsl.

 The s in sdsl means symmetrical, not duplex, that is that the signaling
 rate is the same in either direction, but still half duplex.

 For VoIP a t1 is worth double what a 1.5 sdsl is because of the duplex
 nature of the traffic, unlike most internet that is download-centric.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wiley
 Siler
 Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:43 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

 Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
 only costs around $100 per month.

 W

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 Goodyear
 Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 7:02 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

 On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:
  Barton Fisher wrote:
  I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.  Why should I
 
  choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?  I found someone
  offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month +
  Loops.  Is this a good deal?
   Thanks
   Bart
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  Where are you located?  What CLEC gives you a T-1 for $290?

 FWIW I provisioned a PRI and a DS-1 for $300 each. Don't know if I'm
 getting a break for having a voice and a data circuit broken out from
 one fiber drop, but that's what I'm paying here in Orange County. Also,
 I had a business cable modem before, which was *allegedly* not shared
 for business customers (suspicious) and the throughput was a roller
 coaster, as was the latency. The DS-1 cleared all that up.

 /rg

 Robert Goodyear
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 http://www.brand-up.com

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
Are you sure?  Everything I have seen says SDSL = Full Duplex.
That being achieved by dropping the pair that provided voice and using
it for signalling.

Where ADSL utilizes unoccupied frequencies and averts conflict with
analog voice frequencies, SDSL takes over the whole line. SDSL
eliminates analog voice capabilities in favor of full-duplex data
transmission. No splitter, no analog voice-nothing but data. As a decent
alternative to T1, SDSL has gotten a fair amount of attention from
Competitive Local Exchange Carriers.

Excerpt from
http://www.isp-select.com/SDSL.htm

Cheers,
Wiley




 

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Estep
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

You are aware that DSL (even SDSL) is half duplex and a T1 is full
duplex, right?

1.5m sdsl can only do 768 sustained duplex, or 1.5 out 0 in, or 0 out
1.5 in. a T1 will do 1.5 in and 1.5 out sustained.

This is due to a separate transmit and receive path on a t1 and a shared
path on sdsl.

The s in sdsl means symmetrical, not duplex, that is that the signaling
rate is the same in either direction, but still half duplex.

For VoIP a t1 is worth double what a 1.5 sdsl is because of the duplex
nature of the traffic, unlike most internet that is download-centric.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:43 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month. 

W

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?


On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:

 Barton Fisher wrote:
 I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.  Why should I

 choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?  I found someone 
 offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month + 
 Loops.  Is this a good deal?
  Thanks
  Bart
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 Where are you located?  What CLEC gives you a T-1 for $290?


FWIW I provisioned a PRI and a DS-1 for $300 each. Don't know if I'm
getting a break for having a voice and a data circuit broken out from
one fiber drop, but that's what I'm paying here in Orange County. Also,
I had a business cable modem before, which was *allegedly* not shared
for business customers (suspicious) and the throughput was a roller
coaster, as was the latency. The DS-1 cleared all that up.

/rg

Robert Goodyear
Brand Up LLC
http://www.brand-up.com

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Nir Simionovich

Damon,

 I have no idea where you are getting your information from, but what 
you said makes no sense.
DSL based lines, be it ADSL or SDSL, are based upon a connection 
technology in the ATM
family. As a result, the upstream and downstream of the connection can 
be controlled seperately.
If someone offers you a 1.5 SDSL connection, it doesn't actually mean 
that you have 2x768kbps,
it may actually mean that you have 2x1.5Mbps. However, that speed is 
only towards your internet
provider, what you get beyond that point would be bound to your ISP's 
SLA and contract.


 Now, E1 and T1 lines are based upon a channel based connection, which 
means you get a line
with X number of data lines and a single control/signalling line. On T1 
it means that you have 23
lines dedicated for Voice/Data (each is 64kbps) and a single signaling 
line (64kbps). Now, lets
do a little math (23+1)*64 = 1536kbps = 1.536Mbps, hence the speed for a 
single T1 circuit.
Now, if you have a T1 installed, and you are currently using 512kbps of 
upload, it means that you
are physically using 8 lines out of the 23 data lines for uploading. You 
can then use the rest to what
ever purpose you want, but while those lines are in play, you won't be 
upload another 512kbps on
the same lines. The reason for that is that each of these lines operates 
on a seperate Time Slot
within the physical layer. Once a Time Slot is taken for a specific data 
flow, it can't be used for another

data flow.

 This actually means that a T1 will give you a shared 1.5Mbps towards 
your ISP, with speed that
vary on the upload and download, according to your usage. While when 
using a DSL, your quality
of service for the connection to the ISP is described by the policy of 
connection. In many countries
(eg: Israel, Turkey, China, UK), DSL lines are actually ADSL lines, 
where the downstream is around
1.5Mbps while the uplink is around 128kbps (just enough to do a little 
VoIP). Last time I was in the
UK, about 4 weeks ago, I noticed they are now selling 8Mbps ADSL 
connection to your house,

however, the uplink is 512kbps.

 I would suggest that you get all the information from your providers 
regarding the type of services

rendered on the SDSL line, and make sure that it's the right one for you.

Nir S


Damon Estep wrote:


You are aware that DSL (even SDSL) is half duplex and a T1 is full
duplex, right?

1.5m sdsl can only do 768 sustained duplex, or 1.5 out 0 in, or 0 out
1.5 in. a T1 will do 1.5 in and 1.5 out sustained.

This is due to a separate transmit and receive path on a t1 and a shared
path on sdsl.

The s in sdsl means symmetrical, not duplex, that is that the signaling
rate is the same in either direction, but still half duplex.

For VoIP a t1 is worth double what a 1.5 sdsl is because of the duplex
nature of the traffic, unlike most internet that is download-centric.

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Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month. 


W

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On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:

 


Barton Fisher wrote:
   


I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.  Why should I
 



 

choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?  I found someone 
offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month + 
Loops.  Is this a good deal?

Thanks
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Where are you located?  What CLEC gives you a T-1 for $290?

   



FWIW I provisioned a PRI and a DS-1 for $300 each. Don't know if I'm
getting a break for having a voice and a data circuit broken out from
one fiber drop, but that's what I'm paying here in Orange County. Also,
I had a business cable modem before, which was *allegedly* not shared
for business customers (suspicious) and the throughput was a roller
coaster, as was the latency. The DS-1 cleared all that up.

/rg

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Nir Simionovich

Marcelo Pacheco wrote:


SDSL has symmetrical speeds and full duplex communications.
Of the widely deployed lan/wan technologies, the only one I know of that is 
half-duplex is 802.11{b,g}.


802.11b/g are standards used in wireless (Wi-Fi) connections, there is 
no relation to the symetrics or

asymetrics of the actual physical line.

The only technical difference between a T1 and SDSL is how it's physically 
delivered to the customer, what usually happens is that a T1 is not oversold, 
while an SDSL is oversold anywhere from 8:1 to 3:1.
 

That is correct in the genereal idea, however, as xDSL technologies are 
switched technologies, unlike
cable (DOCSIS) technologies, the fact that you are overloaded 8:1 or 3:1 
will not really matter. As long

as your equipment supports QoS correctly, you shouldn't have a problem.

ADSL is full duplex as well, if you don't know how to do QOS then it will feel 
like it's half duplex, but it's not. I have 1000/320 ADSL that I can use full 
bandwidth both ways.
 

ADSL appears to be half-duplex only due to the fact that most ISP's 
misconfigure the modems and routers.
As a rule of thumb, the modem/router can be re-configured to utilize 
both channels to the fullest, but again, this
must rely on the fact that your ISP's equipment supports QoS at the 
switch level correctly.


Nir S


Marcelo Pacheco

Em Seg 13 Jun 2005 20:54, Damon Estep escreveu:
 


You are aware that DSL (even SDSL) is half duplex and a T1 is full
duplex, right?

1.5m sdsl can only do 768 sustained duplex, or 1.5 out 0 in, or 0 out
1.5 in. a T1 will do 1.5 in and 1.5 out sustained.

This is due to a separate transmit and receive path on a t1 and a shared
path on sdsl.

The s in sdsl means symmetrical, not duplex, that is that the signaling
rate is the same in either direction, but still half duplex.

For VoIP a t1 is worth double what a 1.5 sdsl is because of the duplex
nature of the traffic, unlike most internet that is download-centric.

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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and
only costs around $100 per month.

W

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On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:
   


Barton Fisher wrote:
 


I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.  Why should I

choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?  I found someone
offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month +
Loops.  Is this a good deal?
Thanks
Bart
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Where are you located?  What CLEC gives you a T-1 for $290?
 


FWIW I provisioned a PRI and a DS-1 for $300 each. Don't know if I'm
getting a break for having a voice and a data circuit broken out from
one fiber drop, but that's what I'm paying here in Orange County. Also,
I had a business cable modem before, which was *allegedly* not shared
for business customers (suspicious) and the throughput was a roller
coaster, as was the latency. The DS-1 cleared all that up.

/rg

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Brand Up LLC
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread Ariel Batista
Title: MCI vs. XO/Allegiance



we have been using XO/Allegiance for over 3 years 
and have had no problems. I can't compare to MCI but we also had a sprint 
t1 that we had to get remove due to them being bad in billing and also not very 
reliable for faxing.



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  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
  Non-Commercial Discussion 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:59 PM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. 
  XO/Allegiance
  
  Hello All, 
  Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or 
  XO/Allegiance? Gotta make the choice 
  today and the difference per month is only about $25 in favor of MCI. 
  
  Billing is pretty much the same between the two so 
  I have pretty much no point of reference on which to choose. Any thoughts from anyone experienced with these two compnies 
  would be greatly appreciated! 
  Thanks, Wiley 
  
  

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread David Coulson


Nir Simionovich wrote:
  Now, E1 and T1 lines are based upon a channel based connection, which
 means you get a line
 with X number of data lines and a single control/signalling line. On T1
 it means that you have 23
 lines dedicated for Voice/Data (each is 64kbps) and a single signaling
 line (64kbps). 

A T1 has no seperate signaling line - You're thinking of PRI. T1 gives
you 24 DS0 (64kbit) channels, which you can do whatever you want with.
PRI just shanks off one channel for D channel signaling.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
Title: MCI vs. XO/Allegiance



Sprint nevermore... I switched voer to Sprint a few 
years ago and they literally dropped service form under us.
It was during that Sprint ION fiasco. They sold to 
me, installed, and literally terminated the service10 days 
later.
The whole time they were working the install for me, the 
other side of the company was going belly up.

Poo poo on sprint...

w



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[Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. XO/Allegiance

we have been using XO/Allegiance for over 3 years 
and have had no problems. I can't compare to MCI but we also had a sprint 
t1 that we had to get remove due to them being bad in billing and also not very 
reliable for faxing.



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  From: 
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  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
  Non-Commercial Discussion 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:59 PM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] MCI vs. 
  XO/Allegiance
  
  Hello All, 
  Anyone out there using ISDN PRI from either MCI or 
  XO/Allegiance? Gotta make the choice 
  today and the difference per month is only about $25 in favor of MCI. 
  
  Billing is pretty much the same between the two so 
  I have pretty much no point of reference on which to choose. Any thoughts from anyone experienced with these two compnies 
  would be greatly appreciated! 
  Thanks, Wiley 
  
  

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Wiley Siler
BTW - The Speakeasy SDSL connection I originally posted about is
delivered via Covad.

The SLA (some of it at least)

Average Network Delivery and Delay2 - Further proof that Covad has
confidence in the performance of our network. 
Delivery - 99.9% successful delivery of all data packets sent from your
location over the Covad network, or you will be eligible for a credit of
up to 10% of your monthly service fee. 

Delay - 110 millisecond average for the round trip of a message sent
from your location to a test point on the Covad network, or you will be
eligible for a credit of up to 10% of your monthly service fee. 

SLA can be found here...
http://www.covad.com/products/access/telespeed/details.shtml#sla

Being only 4000 feet from the Central Office, this works very well for
me.
I have not been able to figure if QoS is possible yet.
Haven't figured out the examples from the Wiki for QoS via HFB (I think)
and no answer from techs yet.

Thanks,
Wiley


 

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 6:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

Marcelo Pacheco wrote:

SDSL has symmetrical speeds and full duplex communications.
Of the widely deployed lan/wan technologies, the only one I know of 
that is half-duplex is 802.11{b,g}.

802.11b/g are standards used in wireless (Wi-Fi) connections, there is
no relation to the symetrics or asymetrics of the actual physical line.

The only technical difference between a T1 and SDSL is how it's 
physically delivered to the customer, what usually happens is that a T1

is not oversold, while an SDSL is oversold anywhere from 8:1 to 3:1.
  

That is correct in the genereal idea, however, as xDSL technologies are
switched technologies, unlike cable (DOCSIS) technologies, the fact that
you are overloaded 8:1 or 3:1 will not really matter. As long as your
equipment supports QoS correctly, you shouldn't have a problem.

ADSL is full duplex as well, if you don't know how to do QOS then it 
will feel like it's half duplex, but it's not. I have 1000/320 ADSL 
that I can use full bandwidth both ways.
  

ADSL appears to be half-duplex only due to the fact that most ISP's
misconfigure the modems and routers.
As a rule of thumb, the modem/router can be re-configured to utilize
both channels to the fullest, but again, this must rely on the fact that
your ISP's equipment supports QoS at the switch level correctly.

Nir S

Marcelo Pacheco

Em Seg 13 Jun 2005 20:54, Damon Estep escreveu:
  

You are aware that DSL (even SDSL) is half duplex and a T1 is full 
duplex, right?

1.5m sdsl can only do 768 sustained duplex, or 1.5 out 0 in, or 0 out
1.5 in. a T1 will do 1.5 in and 1.5 out sustained.

This is due to a separate transmit and receive path on a t1 and a 
shared path on sdsl.

The s in sdsl means symmetrical, not duplex, that is that the 
signaling rate is the same in either direction, but still half duplex.

For VoIP a t1 is worth double what a 1.5 sdsl is because of the duplex

nature of the traffic, unlike most internet that is download-centric.

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:43 AM
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

Speakeasy SDSL Is 1.5 Megs, is business class (so you get an SLA) and 
only costs around $100 per month.

W

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On Jun 10, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Michael Welter wrote:


Barton Fisher wrote:
  

I'm looking to expand my bandwidth for my Asterisk PBX.  Why should 
I

choose a T1 over DSL for my asterisk server?  I found someone 
offering T1's for $290 a month + Loops or 3 Meg for $561 a month + 
Loops.  Is this a good deal?
 Thanks
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Where are you located?  What CLEC gives you a T-1 for $290?
  

FWIW I provisioned a PRI and a DS-1 for $300 each. Don't know if I'm 
getting a break for having a voice and a data circuit broken out from 
one fiber drop, but that's what I'm paying here in Orange County. 
Also, I had a business cable modem before, which was *allegedly* not 
shared for business customers (suspicious) and the throughput was a 
roller coaster, as was the latency. 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Nir Simionovich

Hi David,

 You are correct, I always get those 2 confused. Thanks for the clearing.

Nir S

David Coulson wrote:


Nir Simionovich wrote:
 


Now, E1 and T1 lines are based upon a channel based connection, which
means you get a line
with X number of data lines and a single control/signalling line. On T1
it means that you have 23
lines dedicated for Voice/Data (each is 64kbps) and a single signaling
line (64kbps). 
   



A T1 has no seperate signaling line - You're thinking of PRI. T1 gives
you 24 DS0 (64kbit) channels, which you can do whatever you want with.
PRI just shanks off one channel for D channel signaling.

David

 




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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread Leon Sun
Not really true about T1 description. When you apply for T1, you need tell
vendor if it's channelized or non-ch. If you are going to use it for 1.5M
network, you need use unchannelized T1. 

  

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Hi David,

  You are correct, I always get those 2 confused. Thanks for the clearing.

Nir S

David Coulson wrote:

Nir Simionovich wrote:
  

 Now, E1 and T1 lines are based upon a channel based connection, which
means you get a line
with X number of data lines and a single control/signalling line. On T1
it means that you have 23
lines dedicated for Voice/Data (each is 64kbps) and a single signaling
line (64kbps). 



A T1 has no seperate signaling line - You're thinking of PRI. T1 gives
you 24 DS0 (64kbit) channels, which you can do whatever you want with.
PRI just shanks off one channel for D channel signaling.

David

  



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Should I choose DSL @ 1.5 or a full T1?

2005-06-13 Thread David Coulson


Leon Sun wrote:

 Not really true about T1 description. When you apply for T1, you need tell
 vendor if it's channelized or non-ch. If you are going to use it for 1.5M
 network, you need use unchannelized T1. 

T1 is T1. How you use the DS0s delivered across it is up to you. You can
mux them out to POTS lines, use them all for data or mix it up and run
voice and data over the same T1. Telco vendors don't care what you do
with it, unless it's terminating for data/voice in their equipment.

Even when you use all 24 channels for data, they still function as 24
distinct DS0 channels as far as timing is concerned. Unlike OC-nc
circuits (Where you save some overhead for the sake of being unable to
channelize the STS channels) , there is no overhead variation when
channelizing a DS-1 versus using a full DS-1 for data.

David

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