Re: [asterisk-users] Matching *, + and # in the dialplan

2008-10-11 Thread Benny Amorsen
Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 exten = [0-9*#+].,...

 If that does not work, that is a bug and needs to be reported as such.

Sadly that matches *james and 9foo...

It would be nice if you could use normal regexes (e.g. with the pcre
library) in extensions.conf.


/Benny


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Re: [asterisk-users] Sip Trunking

2008-10-11 Thread Benny Amorsen
Brent Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have several branch offices, each with their own Asterisk server 
 (version 1.4.22.1) handling their PBX functions.  All of these offices 
 need to talk to each other.  In sip.conf I created a peer entry for each 
 office with a username of branch-user and a friend entry for every 
 branch-user with the username being just the branch, for example:

You should only need peer entries... type=user is dying.


/Benny


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Re: [asterisk-users] Got event 17 (Polarity Reversal)...

2008-10-11 Thread Jim Duda
If by default Asterisk ignores all polarity events, then why
does it cause the Dialplan to start?

I did set answeronplarityswitch to no, however, I have had
the problem occur once already, so, you suspicion might
be correct.

Jim

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 05:51:29PM -0400, Jim Duda wrote:
 Tzafrir,

 Thanks for the tip.  I'm researching answeronpoliaryswitch.  I suspect 
 this will solve my issue.  I never would have know to look for this.

 Thanks much!  You made my day :-)
 
 Hmm... I might have misled you. By default Asterisk ignores all polarity
 events. Using the polarity events can be a useful feature, but I suspect
 that it is not the cause of your original problem.
 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about echo cancelation

2008-10-11 Thread Olivier
2008/10/10 Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 All calls with a 2-wire analog piece have echo.  You cannot perceive the
 echo because it happens so fast on non-VoIP connections.  On VoIP calls
 you have significant extra latency while causes you you to perceive the
 echo.

Do you mean generated locally or generated distantly ?

I understand that VoIP extra latency sometrimes renders perceivable what was
unperceivable before.
What suprises me is to hear that media getways filter one-way only : as
2-wires analog devices produce echo, and every phone has 2-wires analog
audio, in every call you've got at least 2 sources of echo : one in each
endpoint.


  Echo must be removed before the call is converted to VoIP -- in
 your case the Media Gateway is the device that must remove echo.


So, if Alice is hearing its own voice,
1. where does it most probably come from ?
2. where should it be removed ?

For both, I would reply :
1. it most probably comes from Bob's phone (as other devices in-between are
digital so voice can't leak from there),
2. Alice voice echo should canceled at every location: Bob's PBX, PSTN
network (ISDN in the case I had in mind) and Alice's Media gateway

Do you agree ?



 Olivier wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm using the following setup :
  Alice  IPPhone --LAN- Media gateway PSTN ---
 Phone
   Bob
 
  For certain calls, users complains about echo : they can ear their own
 voice
  in their handset, though media gateway echo cancel is turned on.
 
  I'm wondering how this echo cancelation engine is supposed to work.
  My understanding of echo is that most probably, when users complains
 about
  earing their own voice, that means that distant phone or nearby equipment
 is
  leaking : Bob's phone is sending Alice's voice signal back to Alice.
 
  So, to properly cancel, I would say Media gateway should substract from
  incoming signal the signal that left the media gateway few ms before.
 
  Discussing here and there, some say that Media Gateway never work this
 way :
  it would only filters out locally generated echo.
  Do you agree with that ?
  If positive, then what can you do, if Bob's phone generate much echo ?
 
  Regards
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] is there a way

2008-10-11 Thread Bill Michaelson

Steve Totaro wrote:


My only wish is that Linux had a facility like XP to bridge NICs without
running all sorts of commands for brctl.  Just a GUI like XP.  Last time I
setup a bridge in Linux, I had to change many kernel options and rebuild the
entire kernel to get bridging working properly.  With XP, you just select
the NICS, right click and select add to bridge.



For linux, I find that running firestarter, ICS/Firewall is fine, my end
game is to get all of my traffic to go over an OpenVPN tunnel at my colo
which is the default gateway over OpenVPN.  Windows seems to have the
easiest method of getting this done.



I've taken to using Debian derivatives lately, so your YMMV, but maybe 
this is helpful to you...


I haven't had to rebuild any recent kernels for bridging.  I do have to 
apt-get bridge-utils, but that's a trivial thing I do on any box I 
install.  I also typically apt-get other userspace stuff like vlan, 
nmap, tcpdump and wireshark, etc.


I've been using the following type of code in /etc/network/interfaces to 
effect bridges.  When I want to bridge a tap device with openvpn, I do 
something similar to establish a bridge at boot time with only one 
physical ether attached.  Then I put the final brctl add into a script 
which is invoked via the up option line in the openvpn conf file.  Then 
it's all automatic.  I don't (yet) know how to do it on other distros.


The following fragment is used to connect to a redundant pair of 
asterisks for failover:


# bridge of two ethers for alternative paths to SIP clients
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 0.0.0.0
netmask 255.255.255.0

auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
address 0.0.0.0
netmask 255.255.255.0

auto sipbr0
iface sipbr0 inet static
address 192.168.1.13
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
network 192.168.1.0
bridge-ports eth1 eth2



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[asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hi for asterisk users,
please any asterisk distribution (or Trixbox) for windows ?
(except for the Asterisk Win32)
bicose asterisk for Win32 have a Free (limited) PBX Manager
and i have a problem with it:
1. the asterisk Windows Service is not installed by default
2. unable to connect to it (no responce from it)
help me please!
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[asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials without making a call?

2008-10-11 Thread Eric Chamberlain
Is there a SIP packet that a SIP client can send to Asterisk to  
confirm that the credentials entered by the user are correct, without  
placing a call?

We'd like to test the credentials when the user enters them, rather  
than wait until they try to make their first call.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Got event 17 (Polarity Reversal)...

2008-10-11 Thread Jorge Mendoza
I founded this behaviour in the past. When the CO provides reversal
polarity and the FXO port is configured to ignore polarity events, then
a reversal polarity could be detected as ringing if the
hardware/software is not well designed or configured.
So, if the CO provides polarity reversal, why not set answer and release
supervision to yes?

Jorge Mendoza


Jim Duda wrote:
 If by default Asterisk ignores all polarity events, then why
 does it cause the Dialplan to start?

 I did set answeronplarityswitch to no, however, I have had
 the problem occur once already, so, you suspicion might
 be correct.

 Jim

 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
   
 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 05:51:29PM -0400, Jim Duda wrote:
 
 Tzafrir,

 Thanks for the tip.  I'm researching answeronpoliaryswitch.  I suspect 
 this will solve my issue.  I never would have know to look for this.

 Thanks much!  You made my day :-)
   
 Hmm... I might have misled you. By default Asterisk ignores all polarity
 events. Using the polarity events can be a useful feature, but I suspect
 that it is not the cause of your original problem.

 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials withoutmaking a call?

2008-10-11 Thread Meftah Tayeb
hi,
(i am no sur):
the user credential is tested during SIP Registration Step
thanks and tel me if this is a error
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials 
withoutmaking a call?


 Is there a SIP packet that a SIP client can send to Asterisk to
 confirm that the credentials entered by the user are correct, without
 placing a call?

 We'd like to test the credentials when the user enters them, rather
 than wait until they try to make their first call.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Chris Rowson
 hi for asterisk users,
 please any asterisk distribution (or Trixbox) for windows ?
 (except for the Asterisk Win32)

Why use Windows?

If you want something free and easy to use, download a pre-built
Asterisk  Linux CD.

You could try download a Trixbox .iso and give it a go. I'm sure
they're are others too...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about echo cancelation

2008-10-11 Thread Eric ManxPower Wieling


Olivier wrote:
 2008/10/10 Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 All calls with a 2-wire analog piece have echo.  You cannot perceive the
 echo because it happens so fast on non-VoIP connections.  On VoIP calls
 you have significant extra latency while causes you you to perceive the
 echo.
 
 Do you mean generated locally or generated distantly ?
 
 I understand that VoIP extra latency sometrimes renders perceivable what was
 unperceivable before.
 What suprises me is to hear that media getways filter one-way only : as
 2-wires analog devices produce echo, and every phone has 2-wires analog
 audio, in every call you've got at least 2 sources of echo : one in each
 endpoint.

Where did you hear that media gateways filter one-way only?

Any 2-wire analog leg will be a source of echo.  Many, many, many calls 
do not have a 2-wire leg.  Think cell/mobile or endpoints with PRI or T-1.

 
  Echo must be removed before the call is converted to VoIP -- in
 your case the Media Gateway is the device that must remove echo.
 
 
 So, if Alice is hearing its own voice,
 1. where does it most probably come from ?
 2. where should it be removed ?

 For both, I would reply :
 1. it most probably comes from Bob's phone (as other devices in-between are
 digital so voice can't leak from there),
 2. Alice voice echo should canceled at every location: Bob's PBX, PSTN
 network (ISDN in the case I had in mind) and Alice's Media gateway

If you (Alice) are hearing echo then the echo canceling can be done any 
time after it leaves Bob's 2-wire circuit but before the audio is 
converted to VoIP on your end.

Telcos echo cancel cell/mobile phone calls (also a high latency path) 
and long distance calls, but almost never do EC on local calls.   This 
is why you seldom get echo when calling a mobile phone or a long 
distance number -- you mostly get it on local calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials withoutmaking a call?

2008-10-11 Thread Eric Chamberlain
I should have clarified, we're only making outbound calls, not  
inbound, so there is no registration.

On Oct 11, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Meftah Tayeb wrote:

 hi,
 (i am no sur):
 the user credential is tested during SIP Registration Step
 thanks and tel me if this is a error
 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:20 PM
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials
 withoutmaking a call?


 Is there a SIP packet that a SIP client can send to Asterisk to
 confirm that the credentials entered by the user are correct, without
 placing a call?

 We'd like to test the credentials when the user enters them, rather
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Re: [asterisk-users] Got event 17 (Polarity Reversal)...

2008-10-11 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Jorge Mendoza wrote:

 I founded this behaviour in the past. When the CO provides reversal
 polarity and the FXO port is configured to ignore polarity events, then
 a reversal polarity could be detected as ringing if the
 hardware/software is not well designed or configured.
 So, if the CO provides polarity reversal, why not set answer and release
 supervision to yes?

We need the flexability to answer either way...

Here in the UK the (BT) exchange will do a polarity reversal to signal 
incoming CLI - it then send the CLI, *then* sends the ring signals, so 
answering on polarity reversal would be wrong.

They also do a random polarity reversal most nights too - some sort of 
automated line testing. Eg. from my home box:

Oct  7 01:40:28 NOTICE[15581] chan_zap.c: Got event 17 (Polarity Reversal)...
Oct  9 03:53:06 NOTICE[19904] chan_zap.c: Got event 17 (Polarity Reversal)...

Note the times...

Gordon


 Jorge Mendoza


 Jim Duda wrote:
 If by default Asterisk ignores all polarity events, then why
 does it cause the Dialplan to start?

 I did set answeronplarityswitch to no, however, I have had
 the problem occur once already, so, you suspicion might
 be correct.

 Jim

 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 05:51:29PM -0400, Jim Duda wrote:

 Tzafrir,

 Thanks for the tip.  I'm researching answeronpoliaryswitch.  I suspect
 this will solve my issue.  I never would have know to look for this.

 Thanks much!  You made my day :-)

 Hmm... I might have misled you. By default Asterisk ignores all polarity
 events. Using the polarity events can be a useful feature, but I suspect
 that it is not the cause of your original problem.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 05:13:50PM +0100, Meftah Tayeb wrote:
 hi for asterisk users,
 please any asterisk distribution (or Trixbox) for windows ?
 (except for the Asterisk Win32)

Trixbox is a complete linux distribution that includes Asterisk, among
other software components.

It might be possible to build Asterisk on win32 (probably only on
cygwin). Better chances for it working in 1.6.

Anybody tried to make a cygwin package of it?

http://cygwin.com/setup.html#package_contents

 bicose asterisk for Win32 have a Free (limited) PBX Manager
 and i have a problem with it:
 1. the asterisk Windows Service is not installed by default
 2. unable to connect to it (no responce from it)

IIRC asterisk-win32 does not include a way to rebuild the packaging.
Hence you must ask them for support. Or reimplement that.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentialswithoutmaking a call?

2008-10-11 Thread Meftah Tayeb
then this is a error from me, thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP 
credentialswithoutmaking a call?


I should have clarified, we're only making outbound calls, not
 inbound, so there is no registration.

 On Oct 11, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Meftah Tayeb wrote:

 hi,
 (i am no sur):
 the user credential is tested during SIP Registration Step
 thanks and tel me if this is a error
 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:20 PM
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials
 withoutmaking a call?


 Is there a SIP packet that a SIP client can send to Asterisk to
 confirm that the credentials entered by the user are correct, without
 placing a call?

 We'd like to test the credentials when the user enters them, rather
 than wait until they try to make their first call.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Meftah Tayeb

- Original Message - 
From: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?


 On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 05:13:50PM +0100, Meftah Tayeb wrote:
 hi for asterisk users,
 please any asterisk distribution (or Trixbox) for windows ?
 (except for the Asterisk Win32)

 Trixbox is a complete linux distribution that includes Asterisk, among
 other software components.

 It might be possible to build Asterisk on win32 (probably only on
 cygwin). Better chances for it working in 1.6.

 Anybody tried to make a cygwin package of it?

 http://cygwin.com/setup.html#package_contents

thanks for tha
but i dont have the pocibility to use Linux, bicose :
i am blind and no reliable screen reader for linux (KDE or GNOME) is found
then i am using scren reader for windows
please if you found other solution or a cigwin Package for Asterisk Contact 
me

 bicose asterisk for Win32 have a Free (limited) PBX Manager
 and i have a problem with it:
 1. the asterisk Windows Service is not installed by default
 2. unable to connect to it (no responce from it)

 IIRC asterisk-win32 does not include a way to rebuild the packaging.
 Hence you must ask them for support. Or reimplement that.
yes, i dont love Asterisk for Win32
is no reliable / scalable
and include a commercialisation fitur (PBX Manager)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Meftah Tayeb
my friend i have a problem with linux accessibility
i dont have (not found) a screen reader for Gnome or KDE
this is the reason tha i use windows
but linux is realy best / fast / easy
thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?


 hi for asterisk users,
 please any asterisk distribution (or Trixbox) for windows ?
 (except for the Asterisk Win32)

 Why use Windows?

 If you want something free and easy to use, download a pre-built
 Asterisk  Linux CD.

 You could try download a Trixbox .iso and give it a go. I'm sure
 they're are others too...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 06:43:47PM +0100, Meftah Tayeb wrote:
 my friend i have a problem with linux accessibility
 i dont have (not found) a screen reader for Gnome or KDE
 this is the reason tha i use windows
 but linux is realy best / fast / easy

Isn't text-mode better for a screen reader? Just 25 lines on the screen.

I know of quite a few blind people who use Linux. All major
distributions support brile-tty (sp?) for the installaer. At least with
some tweaks. And it is certainly well supported. And there's also
Emacspeak.

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[asterisk-users] 1 second delay when connecting calls

2008-10-11 Thread nrbwpi
Hello,

We are using asterisk 1.6, sangoma pri card, and Cisco 7960 phones.  When we
make or receive calls there is a delay before voice is heard.  Anyone have
any ideas on where to start to debug or has anyone seen this before.  We
have played with settings on pri, asterisk, and phones with no change.

Thanks for your help and ideas in advance.

Neal
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Babcock, Michael Alex
you buntu also has orca.
mike

On Oct 11, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 06:43:47PM +0100, Meftah Tayeb wrote:
 my friend i have a problem with linux accessibility
 i dont have (not found) a screen reader for Gnome or KDE
 this is the reason tha i use windows
 but linux is realy best / fast / easy

 Isn't text-mode better for a screen reader? Just 25 lines on the  
 screen.

 I know of quite a few blind people who use Linux. All major
 distributions support brile-tty (sp?) for the installaer. At least  
 with
 some tweaks. And it is certainly well supported. And there's also
 Emacspeak.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Meftah Tayeb wrote:
 my friend i have a problem with linux accessibility
 i dont have (not found) a screen reader for Gnome or KDE
 this is the reason tha i use windows
 but linux is realy best / fast / easy
 thanks

A quick search using Google gave me

http://live.gnome.org/Orca

Sound isn't working right now on my workstation so I can't test it but 
it is installed by default on my CentOS 5 workstation.


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 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?
 
 
 hi for asterisk users,
 please any asterisk distribution (or Trixbox) for windows ?
 (except for the Asterisk Win32)
 Why use Windows?

 If you want something free and easy to use, download a pre-built
 Asterisk  Linux CD.

 You could try download a Trixbox .iso and give it a go. I'm sure
 they're are others too...


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[asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6.1 + openais

2008-10-11 Thread Edgar Guadamuz
Hello,

I followed the steps by Russell*
http://www.venturevoip.com/news.php?rssid=1980*
and I got it working for publish_event only. As soon as I add
subscribe_event, Asterisk doesn't start and I just get the following
message:

*Oct 11  6:38:04.340485 [CLM  ] nodeget: trying to find node *

I have no idea what's wrong. There is not very much information about this
issue.


Where are my conf, just in case. Any idea please bring it up.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/ais/openais.conf
# Please read the openais.conf.5 manual page

totem {
version: 2
secauth: off
threads: 0
interface {
ringnumber: 0
bindnetaddr: 192.168.1.0
mcastaddr: 226.94.1.1
mcastport: 5405
}
}

logging {
to_stderr: yes
to_file: yes
logfile: /tmp/ais
debug: off
timestamp: on
}

amf {
mode: disabled
}


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/asterisk/ais.conf
[device_state]
type=event_channel
publish_event=device_state
subscribe_event=device_state
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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about echo cancelation

2008-10-11 Thread Olivier
2008/10/11 Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Olivier wrote:
  2008/10/10 Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  All calls with a 2-wire analog piece have echo.  You cannot perceive the
  echo because it happens so fast on non-VoIP connections.  On VoIP calls
  you have significant extra latency while causes you you to perceive the
  echo.
 
  Do you mean generated locally or generated distantly ?
 
  I understand that VoIP extra latency sometrimes renders perceivable what
 was
  unperceivable before.
  What suprises me is to hear that media getways filter one-way only : as
  2-wires analog devices produce echo, and every phone has 2-wires analog
  audio, in every call you've got at least 2 sources of echo : one in each
  endpoint.

 Where did you hear that media gateways filter one-way only?


From a media gateway vendor (mentioning its own products capabilities).
That's the main reason I opened this thread as it surprised me a bit ...



 Any 2-wire analog leg will be a source of echo.  Many, many, many calls
 do not have a 2-wire leg.

Even in handset audio circuit ?
I was thinking that any handset is a potential echo source due to this audio
circuit ...
Do you agree ?


  Think cell/mobile or endpoints with PRI or T-1.

 
   Echo must be removed before the call is converted to VoIP -- in
  your case the Media Gateway is the device that must remove echo.
 
 
  So, if Alice is hearing its own voice,
  1. where does it most probably come from ?
  2. where should it be removed ?

  For both, I would reply :
  1. it most probably comes from Bob's phone (as other devices in-between
 are
  digital so voice can't leak from there),
  2. Alice voice echo should canceled at every location: Bob's PBX, PSTN
  network (ISDN in the case I had in mind) and Alice's Media gateway

 If you (Alice) are hearing echo then the echo canceling can be done any
 time after it leaves Bob's 2-wire circuit but before the audio is
 converted to VoIP on your end.

 Telcos echo cancel cell/mobile phone calls (also a high latency path)
 and long distance calls, but almost never do EC on local calls.   This
 is why you seldom get echo when calling a mobile phone or a long
 distance number -- you mostly get it on local calls.


That's what I thought after reading white papers here and there



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Re: [asterisk-users] 1 second delay when connecting calls

2008-10-11 Thread Eric ManxPower Wieling
Try setting canreinvite=no in each of the device sections on a couple of 
phones, reload chan_sip.so and see if that fixes things.  It has fixed 
the issue when I've tried it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We are using asterisk 1.6, sangoma pri card, and Cisco 7960 phones.  When we
 make or receive calls there is a delay before voice is heard.  Anyone have
 any ideas on where to start to debug or has anyone seen this before.  We
 have played with settings on pri, asterisk, and phones with no change.
 
 Thanks for your help and ideas in advance.
 
 Neal
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Configuring Bandwidth.com SIP trunks to prevent one-way audio

2008-10-11 Thread Kurt Knudsen
Thanks, Steve,

That's what I am unsure of. I don't know how to limit 1 call per trunk. If
that's an easy thing to setup, I'd love to see it.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Steve Totaro 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh, I thought you had logic to count the calls on the trunk.  You should
 limit each trunk to one call.  This is the primary reason besides the email
 that basically said that customer support structure has been changed and
 anything beyond the Demarc would not be supported, I the Demarc is simply
 their boxen, so unless it is on their side, you will not get any helpful
 support from Bandwidth, plus they CCed over 500 people by address instead of
 setting up a group.
 http://www.bandwidth.com/content/support/?page=standardSupport

 I am with Junction and while a trunk is not unlimited as far as price for
 usage, the amount of trunks is unlimited (or at least as unlimited as it can
 be since nothing is really unlimited).  They asked that I try not to go over
 one call per second for any real duration, and that I not hammer one LATA do
 to limited interconnects.

 The other thing was Junctions was very easy to sign up with, great support,
 and configuration was a breeze.

 As for Bandwidth, I think they are solid but due to recent changes and the
 fact that you must pay per channel, as well as the setup process, I decided
 they were not for me.

 I will take a second look at your sip.conf and extensions.conf later to see
 if something jumps out at me.  I suspect since you are setting up two
 separate trunks with Bandwidth, you need to limit each trunk to one call,
 rather than two.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro




 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Kurt Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 externip messes up DTMF detection, and by messes up I mean it doesn't
 detect it at all. Setting nat=yes or nat=no didn't make a difference either.

 When the trunks are in use, the calls are fine, no dropped audio. It only
 happens when a 3rd call is made and there's no trunk available.

 Thanks :)


 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Steve Totaro 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You need to configure your box for nat settings, externip and other
 settings in sip.conf and set nat=yes instead of nat=no.

 One way audio is almost always a NAT issue and those are two glaring
 things that would cause problems.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro


 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Kurt Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi Steve,

 It's behind a NAT/Firewall but SIP translation is enabled and removing
 it from behind the firewall did nothing, it still dropped calls. The calls
 connect and everything works, but it dies when all trunks are in use and
 someone else tries to call out. It seems like even though both channels are
 in use, it tries to connect to the 2nd trunk and thus kills the audio.
 Nothing strange came up in Wireshark or the firewall logs.

 Thanks.

 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Steve Totaro 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Kurt Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Hello,



 We have 2 SIP trunks from Bandwidth.com and if both are in use and
 someone tries to dial out, they cause another call to get one-way audio 
 (the
 caller hears us, we cannot hear them). This happens 100% of the time and
 Bandwidth.com doesn't offer any support. I don't see any setting that 
 tells
 Asterisk that there are 2 channels available from Bandwidth.com's IP. I'm
 currently using, or attempting to use, groups to solve this problem, but
 sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It breaks when a call goes out 
 on
 a Queue, because it seems to add each phone to the group, which breaks my
 GotoIf() statement. Here's some relevant information:



 Users.conf (added by Asterisk-GUI)

 [trunk_2]

 provider = Bandwidth (SIP)  ; GUI metadata

 context = DID_trunk_2

 hasexten = no

 hasiax = no

 hassip = yes

 host = 216.82.224.202

 registeriax = no

 registersip = no

 usecallerid = yes

 nat = no ;Testing

 trunkname = Bandwidth.com (Sip)  ; GUI metadata

 username =

 secret =

 disallow = all

 allow = ulaw,alaw,g726



 sip.conf

 [general]

 context = frombandwidth

 ;other variables, etc.



 ;Added according to Bandwidth.com's wiki entry. Changed to inband
 because we were having DTMF issues.

 [bandwidth.com_inbound]

 host=216.82.224.202

 port=5060

 type=peer

 disallow=all

 allow=ulaw

 dtmfmode=inband

 canreinvite=no

 reinvite=no

 context=frombandwidth

 nat=no



 [bandwidth.com_outbound]

 host=216.82.224.202

 port=5060

 type=peer

 disallow=all

 allow=ulaw

 dtmfmode=rfc2833

 nat=no

 fromuser=11234567890



 extensions.conf

 [globals]

 ;…irrelevant stuff

 trunk_1 = Dahdi/g1

 trunk_2 = SIP/trunk_2

 OUT_2 = SIP/bandwidth.com_outbound



 ;Took out the Set(GROUP()) because I moved it elsewhere to try and fix
 it added all the phones when Asterisk calls agents on a Queue.

 [frombandwidth]

 ;exten = _+1.,1,Set(GROUP()=SIPGROUP)

 exten = _+1.,1,NoOp(FromCount=${GROUP_COUNT(SIPGROUP)})

 

Re: [asterisk-users] Question about echo cancelation

2008-10-11 Thread Eric ManxPower Wieling
Handsets use a 4-wire connection.  Handsets with the the volume turned 
up could cause a form of echo as the microphone picks up the ear piece 
audio (I call this acoustic echo).  Everything I said applies to 2-wire 
caused echo.  Other types of echo is fairly uncommon and cannot be 
solved by normal echo canceling systems.

Most echo canceling systems I've seen (mostly tellabs) only cancel echo 
in one direction.  I suspect all of Digium's EC systems only do echo 
canceling in one direction as well.

Olivier wrote:
 2008/10/11 Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 Olivier wrote:
 2008/10/10 Eric ManxPower Wieling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 All calls with a 2-wire analog piece have echo.  You cannot perceive the
 echo because it happens so fast on non-VoIP connections.  On VoIP calls
 you have significant extra latency while causes you you to perceive the
 echo.
 Do you mean generated locally or generated distantly ?

 I understand that VoIP extra latency sometrimes renders perceivable what
 was
 unperceivable before.
 What suprises me is to hear that media getways filter one-way only : as
 2-wires analog devices produce echo, and every phone has 2-wires analog
 audio, in every call you've got at least 2 sources of echo : one in each
 endpoint.
 Where did you hear that media gateways filter one-way only?
 
 
From a media gateway vendor (mentioning its own products capabilities).
 That's the main reason I opened this thread as it surprised me a bit ...
 

 Any 2-wire analog leg will be a source of echo.  Many, many, many calls
 do not have a 2-wire leg.
 
 Even in handset audio circuit ?
 I was thinking that any handset is a potential echo source due to this audio
 circuit ...
 Do you agree ?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk For Windows ?

2008-10-11 Thread Guillermo Salas M.
El sáb, 11-10-2008 a las 11:07 -0700, Roderick A. Anderson escribió:
 
 A quick search using Google gave me
 
 http://live.gnome.org/Orca
 
 Sound isn't working right now on my workstation so I can't test it
 but 
 it is installed by default on my CentOS 5 workstation.
 

I've installed it on my laptop running debian sid and works pretty good.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials withoutmaking a call?

2008-10-11 Thread Rob Hillis
Eric Chamberlain wrote:
 I should have clarified, we're only making outbound calls, not  
 inbound, so there is no registration.
   

Is there a particular reason you /can't/ register?  It would seem that 
registration would provide the functionality you require, even if you're 
only making outbound calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials withoutmaking a call?

2008-10-11 Thread Eric Chamberlain

On Oct 11, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Rob Hillis wrote:

 Eric Chamberlain wrote:
 I should have clarified, we're only making outbound calls, not
 inbound, so there is no registration.


 Is there a particular reason you /can't/ register?  It would seem that
 registration would provide the functionality you require, even if  
 you're
 only making outbound calls.


In the case of a server like Asterisk, wouldn't sending a register  
disrupt the flow of inbound calls until the UA that normally handles  
inbound calls re-registers?

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[asterisk-users] cli commands missing

2008-10-11 Thread Eric Fort
I just loaded a new asterisk install (1.4.19) and found that the sip, iax,
and extentions commands are missing from the cli and are not listed in help
either?  Any idea what could have happened or where these commands may have
gone?

Thanks,

Eric
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Re: [asterisk-users] Is there a way to test SIP credentials withoutmaking a call?

2008-10-11 Thread Rob Hillis
Eric Chamberlain wrote:
 Is there a particular reason you /can't/ register?  It would seem that
 registration would provide the functionality you require, even if  
 you're
 only making outbound calls.
 
 In the case of a server like Asterisk, wouldn't sending a register  
 disrupt the flow of inbound calls until the UA that normally handles  
 inbound calls re-registers?

Are you using the same credentials as existing extensions to make calls 
from different extensions?  That would seem to be a particularly bad 
idea.  You should be configuring /one/ sip extension per SIP phone.  
Those extensions that handle outgoing calls only could be put in a 
different number range, or have a letter prefixed or suffixed to the 
extension, but you should /not/ be using one configured extension for 
two different purposes.

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Re: [asterisk-users] cli commands missing

2008-10-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:17:09PM -0700, Eric Fort wrote:
 I just loaded a new asterisk install (1.4.19) and found that the sip, iax,
 and extentions commands are missing from the cli and are not listed in help
 either?  Any idea what could have happened or where these commands may have
 gone?

It probably means that the respective modules (chan_sip.so,
chan_iax2.so, etc.) were not loaded. Do you have autoload enabled in
modules.conf?

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Re: [asterisk-users] cli commands missing

2008-10-11 Thread Eric Fort
autoload is enabled but all the modules are not loaded.  Why would this be?
what should I look at?  The cli output and modules.conf are below.

Eric

modules.conf:

;
; Asterisk configuration file
;
; Module Loader configuration file
;

[modules]
autoload=yes
noload=chan_oss.so
noload=chan_alsa.so
noload=chan_phone.so

[global]
---

here's what's loaded:

test*CLI module show
Module Description  Use
Count
res_musiconhold.so Music On Hold Resource   0
res_speech.so  Generic Speech Recognition API   0
res_features.soCall Features Resource   0
res_monitor.so Call Monitoring Resource 0
res_adsi.soADSI Resource0
res_smdi.soSimplified Message Desk Interface (SMDI) 0
res_crypto.so  Cryptographic Digital Signatures 0
res_agi.so Asterisk Gateway Interface (AGI) 0
res_indications.so Indications Resource 0
app_sayunixtime.so Say time 0
codec_g726.so  ITU G.726-32kbps G726 Transcoder 0
func_strings.soString handling dialplan functions   0
pbx_realtime.soRealtime Switch  0
app_cdr.so Tell Asterisk to not maintain a CDR for  0
app_sms.so SMS/PSTN handler 0
codec_a_mu.so  A-law and Mulaw direct Coder/Decoder 0
app_page.soPage Multiple Phones 0
format_vox.so  Dialogic VOX (ADPCM) File Format 0
app_echo.soSimple Echo Application  0
app_channelredirect.so Channel Redirect 0
chan_usbradio.so   usb Console Channel Driver   0
21 modules loaded

-


Eric

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:17:09PM -0700, Eric Fort wrote:
  I just loaded a new asterisk install (1.4.19) and found that the sip,
 iax,
  and extentions commands are missing from the cli and are not listed in
 help
  either?  Any idea what could have happened or where these commands may
 have
  gone?

 It probably means that the respective modules (chan_sip.so,
 chan_iax2.so, etc.) were not loaded. Do you have autoload enabled in
 modules.conf?

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