Re: [asterisk-users] AOC-E pass through
2009/2/4 Jean-Denis Girard jd.gir...@sysnux.pf -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Klaus Darilion a écrit : Take a look at http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=7494 Thanks for the pointer; I'm already monitoring this issue, but there seems to be no progress on that, unfortunately. Unfortunately it is not yet included in Asterisk, as the patch is somehow a workaround (e.g. faking AOC-E based on last AOC-D). Here the telco is not sending AOC-D, just AOC-E. just for curiosity, is AOC-E messages sending included in telco basic subscription or is an option needed for that ? cheers Nevertheless a customer of us uses it for some years now (Astersik 1.2) without any problems. regards klaus Jean-Denis Girard schrieb: Hi, I'd like to know what is the current situation with regard to AOC-E, when Asterisk is inserted between the telco and an existing PBX, using E1 / EuroISDN. Can Asterisk pass the AOC-E information received from the telco to the PBX, so that billing system still works? The system would be for a hotel, so breaking billing system is not possible. Thanks, - -- Jean-Denis Girard SysNux Systèmes Linux en Polynésie française http://www.sysnux.pf/ Tél: +689 50 10 40 / GSM: +689 79 75 27 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAkmJuusACgkQuu7Rv+oOo/iHggCghWlXnKBZ+plXZdiHQTM8kyIi QQsAn3+O2kq2jPpcoyMAcReXltDOnQ8t =uh9L -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] A Simple Asterisk Based Toll Fraud Prevention Script
Subject says it all... A Simple Asterisk Based Toll Fraud Prevention Script http://www.infiltrated.net/asterisk-ips.html Ramblings for admins/engineers to think about. Doesn't have to cost you umteen thousand dollars for stuff like IPS/IDS. Although a little on the crude side, quite effective. If you care to dabble with MySQL you can create quite an impressive hosts based IPS that is custom tailored to your infrastructure. Anyhow, was bored (ADHD) and wanted to ramble on for a little while. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP Enough research will tend to support your conclusions. - Arthur Bloch A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking - Arthur Bloch 227C 5D35 7DCB 0893 95AA 4771 1DCE 1FD1 5CCD 6B5E http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x5CCD6B5E ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Security issue
you have many options but you should use it together. firewall in the user/peers definitions add host=ip and/or deny=0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 permit=ip/mask change the ip of your server. use something like ossec to avoid force brute. David 2009/2/6 oumar ndiaye ond4...@gmail.com Is there a way to restrict connection to my asterisk server to users based on their IP addresses, and not just password. I have some hackers who connect to my server to make illegitimate solicitation calls to people. I had to shutdown the server for now until I find a solution. ANY HELP? Thanks. ond ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_()signature to help him gain world domination. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial software sales licensing platform
I think it's time to 'ping' John Todd and Digium on this topic again. What happened Digium? Why did you say you were going to take this project on but have not come back to the community with an answer yet? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Inc d...@cognation.net mailto:d...@cognation.net +1-212-203-4357 New York +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). +44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial). From: Dean Collins Sent: Sunday, 4 May 2008 3:45 PM Subject: Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial software sales licensing platform Hi Randy, As discussed on Friday the 9th of May I would like to host the Voip Users Conference Call. The purpose of this call is to discuss the community's feelings about an Asterisk 3rd party developed commercial software sales licensing platform. The plan is that some form of documented published schema be implemented that will allow for 3rd party software developers to sell their software applications using a common licensing model similar to the way G729 licenses are sold by Digium. Basically this discussion came about for a 3rd party ecosystem question a few weeks ago when Cory Andrews from VoIP supply was on the Voip-Users conference call. I asked the question - how much of VoIP Supply revenue is product hardware versus applications - he said we don't sell any services such as ITSP hosted Asterisk so I replied that wasn't what I was thinking of and gave the example of Snap Dialer which is a low cost (I paid $20 for it) application which allows me to dial names from Outlook. He said they didn't sell any applications like this at all but would consider selling them if this was an opportunity presented to him. I then talked about some of the consulting I did for Salesforce.com and how they have built an entire ecosystem of third party applications all built by other people apart from salesforce.com but utilizing the documented API's and application security /licensing etc. My comments were that although Asterisk should always remain a free open source application that developers need to eat and pay rent as well. If there was some common marketplace that developers could sell small - low cost third party applications to the Asterisk community that Digium had some type of overview/management control over who listed etc that this would deliver a stream of revenue that would encourage further application development. The question I then posed to the group was if anyone knew how Digium managed the sale and licensing of the G729 codes. And if this was an open published standard that could it be used as the basis for the Asterisk ecosystem license model. Now I know it's not perfect and can be hacked but everything can be hacked. The idea is to build apps cheap enough that it's not worth the effort of hacking. If anyone has some alternative suggestions on how apps should be licensed we'd like to hear them this Friday. I know there were discussions in the early days of the Mexuar launch about how they could license a single channel of the Mexuar Corraleta application rather than the entire server license for $2000. The issue always came down to how we could license it to 1/ a single channel license. 2/ tied to a single machine and not transferable (currently the Mexuar license is hard coded in the application to the servers IP address). I know for me personally although I have donated to numerous bounty requests (I even tried to get one developed for video conferencing a few years ago that was around the $10,000 range) I haven't seen the ongoing continual development that would benefit the Asterisk community. * I personally would be more than happy to pay for 'the next generation of FOP', it was a great application when launched but there is a lot more it could be offering. * I'd also like to implement a far smarter 'user dashboard' similar to what Druid are developing. * Now I no longer work for Mexuar and don't have access to it anymore I'd also like to pay for a single channel Mexuar license rather than using 'lesser quality' experiences by other solutions. * Drawing on my own now defunct project - is the Asterisk user community now ready for centrally provided services such as the 'off-deck processing' like the Tellme Speech Recognition Service http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Tellme . As demonstrated by Amazon EC2 / S3 web services I'm a huge fan of cloud computing off-deck processing, Should these style services also be able to take advantage of an Asterisk 3rd party ecosystem licensing model.
[asterisk-users] GROUP() decrement
Hi, how I can decrement the value of GROUP_COUNT() by one after I have before used GROUP(), so that other channel will get the correct value of GROUP_COUNT(). for examaple exten = _X!,n,Set(GROUP()=${Provider}) exten = _X!,n,DIAL(SIP/${ext...@${provider}) When Dialstatus is CONGESTION I want to dial again with another provider but I have to decrement the GROUP of the unused provider. If there is no function, woud it be possible to call GROUP() in the Macro called by the DIAL command if DIALSTATUS is ANSWERED? Or do I have to progamm it outside with AGI? best regards Thomas ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] One way audio after IVR tree
Hi, I have a couple of users who are having a peculiar problem. On some outbound numbers where there is a deep IVR tree (3+ selections), and then a live person picks up, the live person will be unable to hear them on the phone, but they can hear the live person. I've done packet traces and it appears as though audio is being passed both ways, but the audio from the caller is severely muted before it gets to asterisk. Has anyone seen this before? It's almost like the phone thinks its still sending DTMF or something and mutes the audio. I've seen this happen on both linksys 942 and 962 phones. Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] VPN and Asterisk
One of my user was asking, can he use VPN to access asterisk ? What does it mean ? And its possible ? How ?VPN Yes, it's possible. As one example: I have the OpenVPN software installed on my Asterisk server, and on my Nokia N810 wireless Internet tablet. The tablet is configured to use the VPN's server-side IP address as its SIP server. A similar sort of system could be set up with other VPN packages (e.g. CIPE, Cisco's offerings, etc.), This approach has several advantages, compared to the alternative (not using a VPN, and turning on STUN support in the client): - All of the SIP and RTP traffic to/from the tablet is encrypted, and thus relatively resistant to evesdropping. - The tablet and the Asterisk server have IP addresses for each other which are being established by the VPN software, and don't need to be (and aren't) altered or translated by access-point or corporate routers. This pretty much eliminates the common I can't get audio in one or both directions problem with using SIP through private IP networks and NAT routers. - Most network firewalls will pass VPN traffic, even if they haven't been configured to pass raw SIP and RTP. There are some disadvantages, though: - Some amount of CPU overhead at both ends, and perhaps some increased latency (the latter is minor, I believe). - The RTP traffic must flow through the VPN/Asterisk server... it cannot be reinvited into a direct connection between the tablet and the destination, because the tablet is using an IP address for the connection which exists only on the VPN and isn't externally reachable. This sort of VPN setup (where the Asterisk client is on the same system that's running the VPN software) is the one you'd want to use for many road warrior setups. VPNs can also be used to set up secure IP tunnels between two different, remotely-located networks. This might be done to tie together (e.g.) two different offices, each having its own Asterisk server. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] VPN and Asterisk
David @ULC ucoms2...@gmail.com wrote One of my user was asking, can he use VPN to access asterisk ? What does it mean ? And its possible ? How ?VPN Sometimes what is called a VPN is not a VPN by everyone's definition, so beware. By my definition, a (IP) VPN supports full layer 3 functionality (and sometimes more), as opposed to, say, some type of proxy that relays a limited set of protocols over a particular path with encryption. So you need to be more specific about your question. Example: I've run Asterisk over OpenVPN. In this case, no problem; it's just another networking layer and the only special consideration is increased overhead, and that same consideration applies to any application. There are other VPNs. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Minimum version for asterisk and iaxmodem
Hi, I'm trying to use iaxmodem against a very old version of asterisk (1.0.7 - its a debian sarge embedded system), yet when asterisk gets a call from iaxmodem, it says that the format for the call is unknown. Does anyone know if there is a minimum version of asterisk that is compatible with iaxmodem 1.1.0? Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Minimum version for asterisk and iaxmodem
James Lamanna wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use iaxmodem against a very old version of asterisk (1.0.7 - its a debian sarge embedded system), yet when asterisk gets a call from iaxmodem, it says that the format for the call is unknown. Does anyone know if there is a minimum version of asterisk that is compatible with iaxmodem 1.1.0? I originally developed IAXmodem while using Asterisk 1.2.x. I have since migrated to Asterisk 1.4.x. I never attempted to use Asterisk 1.0.x with IAXmodem, and I have also never tried Asterisk 1.6.x (although I suspect others have without issue). Thanks, Lee. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Minimum version for asterisk and iaxmodem
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Lee Howard fax...@howardsilvan.com wrote: James Lamanna wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use iaxmodem against a very old version of asterisk (1.0.7 - its a debian sarge embedded system), yet when asterisk gets a call from iaxmodem, it says that the format for the call is unknown. Does anyone know if there is a minimum version of asterisk that is compatible with iaxmodem 1.1.0? I originally developed IAXmodem while using Asterisk 1.2.x. I have since migrated to Asterisk 1.4.x. I never attempted to use Asterisk 1.0.x with IAXmodem, and I have also never tried Asterisk 1.6.x (although I suspect others have without issue). Thanks Lee. I'm compiling 1.2.31 right now to see if I have more luck (1.4.x is giving me trouble w/ iaxmodem + hylafax on this ARM platform, but it works great on x86!). Thanks, Lee. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Minimum version for asterisk and iaxmodem
So I got 1.2.31 compiled but I still can't do a loopback fax with IAXModem, Hylafax and Asterisk. The call connects, but the iaxmodem log fills up with Adjusting skew xxx and the fax ultimately fails with: Feb 07 14:10:26.05: [ 3497]: MODEM No carrier Feb 07 14:10:26.05: [ 3497]: Failure to receive silence (synchronization failure). {E100} Feb 07 14:10:26.05: [ 3497]: RECV FAX: Failure to receive silence (synchronization failure). {E100} Feb 07 14:10:26.05: [ 3497]: RECV FAX: end Feb 07 14:10:26.05: [ 3497]: Failure to receive silence (synchronization failure). {E100} Feb 07 14:10:26.05: [ 3497]: SESSION END -- Accepting AUTHENTICATED call from 127.0.0.1: requested format = ulaw, requested prefs = (), actual format = ulaw, host prefs = (ulaw), priority = mine -- Executing Dial(IAX2/iaxmodem0-11201, IAX2/iaxmodem1/xx|60) in new stack -- Called iaxmodem1/6266053472 -- Call accepted by 127.0.0.1 (format ulaw) -- Format for call is ulaw -- IAX2/iaxmodem1-1796 is ringing -- IAX2/iaxmodem1-1796 answered IAX2/iaxmodem0-11201 -- Attempting native bridge of IAX2/iaxmodem0-11201 and IAX2/iaxmodem1-1796 On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:44 PM, James Lamanna jlama...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Lee Howard fax...@howardsilvan.com wrote: James Lamanna wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use iaxmodem against a very old version of asterisk (1.0.7 - its a debian sarge embedded system), yet when asterisk gets a call from iaxmodem, it says that the format for the call is unknown. Does anyone know if there is a minimum version of asterisk that is compatible with iaxmodem 1.1.0? I originally developed IAXmodem while using Asterisk 1.2.x. I have since migrated to Asterisk 1.4.x. I never attempted to use Asterisk 1.0.x with IAXmodem, and I have also never tried Asterisk 1.6.x (although I suspect others have without issue). Thanks Lee. I'm compiling 1.2.31 right now to see if I have more luck (1.4.x is giving me trouble w/ iaxmodem + hylafax on this ARM platform, but it works great on x86!). Thanks, Lee. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] can anybody tell me how Magic jack can be so cheap ????
How Magic Jack can only charge $20 per year? do they have a call limit? do they have a call duration limit or limit of minutes per day?, Thanks ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Minimum version for asterisk and iaxmodem
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 01:08:32PM -0800, James Lamanna wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use iaxmodem against a very old version of asterisk (1.0.7 - its a debian sarge embedded system), You can find some later backports of Asterisk to Sarge at the (now disfunctional) http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/ . 1.2.13 was definetly built on Sarge. Likewise later 1.2-s . I figure you can get 1.4 to build there as well by playing a bit with build dependencies and such. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Security issue
David, Thanks in advance. Where do I change the user/peers definition? Is it in the firewall of the OS? In that case that won't work because the server host other services such as ssh http that are open to any IP as long as the user has the correct credentials. Doesn't asterisk itself has built in security filters? If the only choice is to do in the OS's firewall, then I will need to include the port numbers of SIP, IAX in my firewall rules. In this case, which ports should I block to keep unwanted SIP/IAX connections from specific IP's. Thanks. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, David fire ddf...@gmail.com wrote: you have many options but you should use it together. firewall in the user/peers definitions add host=ip and/or deny=0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 permit=ip/mask change the ip of your server. use something like ossec to avoid force brute. David 2009/2/6 oumar ndiaye ond4...@gmail.com Is there a way to restrict connection to my asterisk server to users based on their IP addresses, and not just password. I have some hackers who connect to my server to make illegitimate solicitation calls to people. I had to shutdown the server for now until I find a solution. ANY HELP? Thanks. ond ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_()signature to help him gain world domination. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Oumar Ndiaye CTO ANTG Telecom www.antg.com ondi...@antg.com ondi...@alum.mit.edu ond4...@gmail.com Tel: +1-919-291-8742 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Security issue
use IP tables and start with deny all. Follow this by allowing only the protocols/ports you want and only the source/destination ip's you wish to allow. these can be combined to say allow ssh from anywhere but only allow sip (and it's range of ports) to/from a very limited set of ip's belonging to say your ITSP. for users that move about a bunch they can use vpn to an allowed subnet. Eric On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:47 PM, oumar ndiaye ondi...@antg.com wrote: David, Thanks in advance. Where do I change the user/peers definition? Is it in the firewall of the OS? In that case that won't work because the server host other services such as ssh http that are open to any IP as long as the user has the correct credentials. Doesn't asterisk itself has built in security filters? If the only choice is to do in the OS's firewall, then I will need to include the port numbers of SIP, IAX in my firewall rules. In this case, which ports should I block to keep unwanted SIP/IAX connections from specific IP's. Thanks. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, David fire ddf...@gmail.com wrote: you have many options but you should use it together. firewall in the user/peers definitions add host=ip and/or deny=0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 permit=ip/mask change the ip of your server. use something like ossec to avoid force brute. David 2009/2/6 oumar ndiaye ond4...@gmail.com Is there a way to restrict connection to my asterisk server to users based on their IP addresses, and not just password. I have some hackers who connect to my server to make illegitimate solicitation calls to people. I had to shutdown the server for now until I find a solution. ANY HELP? Thanks. ond ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_()signature to help him gain world domination. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Oumar Ndiaye CTO ANTG Telecom www.antg.com ondi...@antg.com ondi...@alum.mit.edu ond4...@gmail.com Tel: +1-919-291-8742 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] can anybody tell me how Magic jack can be so cheap ????
They believe they have advertisement revenues. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ignacio Ortega A. nachom...@gmail.com wrote: How Magic Jack can only charge $20 per year? do they have a call limit? do they have a call duration limit or limit of minutes per day?, Thanks ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] can anybody tell me how Magic jack can be so cheap ????
Or more accurately, they believe they can follow the NetZero or Juno model (Free in exchange for ads being pushed to you). -forrest C F wrote: They believe they have advertisement revenues. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ignacio Ortega A. nachom...@gmail.com wrote: How Magic Jack can only charge $20 per year? do they have a call limit? do they have a call duration limit or limit of minutes per day?, Thanks ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] can anybody tell me how Magic jack can be so cheap ????
Never seen any ads except for them. Actually the thing sits on a server down in the garage so I don't see anything! Darn thing just works! I bought it as a second line when the wife is using the copper line to work.Ronny K4RJJ -- Original message from Forrest W Christian f...@mt.net: -- Or more accurately, they believe they can follow the NetZero or Juno model (Free in exchange for ads being pushed to you). -forrest C F wrote: They believe they have advertisement revenues. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ignacio Ortega A.wrote: How Magic Jack can only charge $20 per year? do they have a call limit? do they have a call duration limit or limit of minutes per day?, Thanks ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] can anybody tell me how Magic jack can be so cheap ????
k4...@bellsouth.net wrote: Never seen any ads except for them. Actually the thing sits on a server down in the garage so I don't see anything! Darn thing just works! I bought it as a second line when the wife is using the copper line to work. Ronny K4RJJ The way most people interpret the eula is that magic jack can actually listen in on your calls and send you customized ads based on what you talk about. How you get these ads I don't know. I am also too lazy to read the eula myself, and I don't use the service anyway. http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/04/14/magicjacks-eula-says.html Sam ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] can anybody tell me how Magic jack can be so cheap ????
the ads will start once there is critical mass. the following are the scenarios for ads: 1. when you dial a number, before hearing the ringing, you have to listen to an ad. the length of the ad would be proportional to the intensity of your usage... the more you use, the longer the ads. 2. when the caller answers, they will first hear magic jack promo, then they will hear your voice. 3. the call in interrupted every few minutes to play an ad to both parties. 4. they will give an ad free service if you pay a higher charge. I just hope I am not giving the people at magicjack any ideas, but if I am, I would sure appreciate if they pay me!! On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, k4...@bellsouth.net wrote: Never seen any ads except for them. Actually the thing sits on a server down in the garage so I don't see anything! Darn thing just works! I bought it as a second line when the wife is using the copper line to work. Ronny K4RJJ -- Original message from Forrest W Christian f...@mt.net: -- Or more accurately, they believe they can follow the NetZero or Juno model (Free in exchange for ads being pushed to you). -forrest C F wrote: They believe they have advertisement revenues. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ignacio Ortega A. wrote: How Magic Jack can only charge $20 per year? do they have a call limit? do they have a call duration limit or limit of minutes per day?, Thanks ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/kinjaldixit open networker ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users