Re: [asterisk-users] 1.8.5 Voicemail duration incorrect

2011-08-26 Thread Karsten Wemheuer
Hi Robert,

Am Donnerstag, den 25.08.2011, 13:28 -0400 schrieb Robert Huddleston:
 https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-16981

Thank You for the link. I already found it a few hours later. I put some
debug output in the code and I think I found the location of the issue,
but I currently do not know, how to fix it. (See comments in jira).

Karsten



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[asterisk-users] Asterisk spontaneous reboot

2011-08-26 Thread Jonas Kellens

Hello,

Today I restart the MySQL-DB (/sbin/service mysqld restart) and I could 
no longer connect to asterisk (/usr/sbin/asterisk -r) for a few seconds.


There is now a core dump present in /tmp :

-rw--- 1 root root  88M Aug 26 08:07 
core.sip.pbx.tld-2011-08-26T08:07:35+0200



How can I get usefull information about what went wrong ? Because a 
spontaneous reboot of Asterisk has never happened before when just 
restarting the MySQL-deamon.




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Re: [asterisk-users] red alarm on tdm400 fxo (fxs signalled)

2011-08-26 Thread A J Stiles
On Friday 26 August 2011, Kelvin Chua wrote:
 has anybody ever seen a red alarm on an fxo port (tdm400) whenever you
 unplug a pstn line? I think i saw a post on the mailing list a few years
 back about this, but never actually seen one

That's what mine  (TDM410P clone with 2 * FXO + 2 * FXS)  does if a phone line 
is disconnected:  it gives a red alarm, but the alarm condition clears as soon 
as the line is plugged back in.

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Re: [asterisk-users] red alarm on tdm400 fxo (fxs signalled)

2011-08-26 Thread Kelvin Chua
i am comparing the experience of using an analog span to a T1 for example:
if i have a 3 quad port t1 card, with the initial view of dahdi_tool, i can
easily tell if a line is not working
now supposed i have a system with 3 24port cards, with just watching the
main view of dahdi_tool,
i cannot do that, i still need to go into each one, and look at the stats

maybe it's just me but i think it's making things easier for everyone if
there is some sort of an indication
there like
please-take-a-look-at-this-as-i-have-a-port-here-without-a-battery (not
really yellow, perhaps orange? :D)


using callprogress is *experimental*
; This feature can also easily detect false hangups. The symptoms of this is
; being disconnected in the middle of a call for no reason.
it's actually ok for me, but for other zones, it might not be adviseable.
for example, calling a mobile phone and a
landline would give you a different tone and cadence for the ringback thus
billing apps will be completely screwed.
(unless already anticipated by the billing software)

what i have in mind is just plain simple. when the fxo port goes offhook, it
waits for the dial tone (based on tonezone)
after that, nothing more so as to avoid detection of false hangups. i think
this is not too hard as Newman Ventures implemented
something like this before.

Kelvin Chua


On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Shaun Ruffell sruff...@digium.com wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:58:10AM +0800, Kelvin Chua wrote:
  I should clarify on my post, i can see a red alarm on cat /proc/dahdi/1
 but
  never when using dahdi_tool
 
  in cat /proc/dahdi/1:
  Span 1: WCTDM/4 Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F Board 5 (MASTER)
 
 1 WCTDM/4/0 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 2 WCTDM/4/1 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 3 WCTDM/4/2 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 4 WCTDM/4/3 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 
  In dahdi_tool:
  Tx/Rx Levels: 0/  0
  Total/Conf/Act:   4/  4/  0
 
  but the behavior status alarm is OK
  a little bit misleading, what i am thinking is adding a sort of yellow
  alarm or something if one of the configured fxo lines
  goes down?

 I understand now. Yes, dahdi_tool is showing the alarm status for
 the entire span, and for analog cards, the entire span is always
 essentially green. It's the individual channels that can go into red
 alarm unlike on digital spans.

 Why do you want to add a yellow status? What are you trying to
 accomplish that you cannot with the way things are now?

  another thing, what if 1 of the configured lines' battery is up, but
 there
  is no dial tone? outbound calls will try to go through
  and the caller will hear dead air.

 'callprogress=yes' in chan_dahdi.conf won't help you here? It may be
 able to detect dialtone before attempting to dial out.

 --
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 Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer
 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
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Re: [asterisk-users] How to know how many user is connected

2011-08-26 Thread Gohar Ahmed
Google linux commands for the purpose.

Not sure about preemptively disconnecting sockets . I think there are
commands like “ss” in linux which you can use. You need to collect info from
AMI and then use combination of linux commands via php directly to
disconnect anyone (if possible). 

 

 

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of virendra bhati
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:03 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to know how many user is connected

 

Hi Ahmed,

Just realized that maybe you’re talking about disconnecting any other
AMI/manger connected user from another manager connection…hhmmm… I don’t
think so. Check AMI commands from asterisk wiki. If not, you may need system
command in your AMI connection  to close some other socket

Yes I was looking for this :)
Please tell me how to close other socket from current sockets.

one more thing in my case it may be possible that 
root  127.0.0.1 may be more then one then how to close them individually? 

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Gohar Ahmed gohar.ah...@vopium.com wrote:

Just realized that maybe you’re talking about disconnecting any other
AMI/manger connected user from another manager connection…hhmmm… I don’t
think so. Check AMI commands from asterisk wiki. If not, you may need system
command in your AMI connection  to close some other socket. 

 

 

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gohar Ahmed
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:25 PM


To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'

Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to know how many user is connected

 

What I understood: you need to disconnect the AMI socket.

1) I want to disconnect connected manager into Asterisk. Is it possible ?
ß Close the $socket after you get the response. 

 

What I understood: you need to maintain the socket until some button is
pressed to stop AMI
2) I want to maintain this socket connection until we disconnect it from web
page. ß Close the $socket on particular action from web-page. This one’s
tricky btw maintain a while loop and break loop on a condition toggled by
web-page)

See php section for other examples.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+Examples 

 

 

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of virendra bhati
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:02 PM


To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion

Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to know how many user is connected

 

Hi List,

Thanks now I am able to get all values from asterisk CLI but I want 2 more
things .

1) I want to disconnect connected manager into Asterisk. Is it possible ?
2) I want to maintain this socket connection until we disconnect it from web
page.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:57 PM, virendra bhati virbh...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi List,

Thanks for guide me. Yes I know that CLI command , My motive is to get
information into Php that's why I am finding the solution. 

Ahmad Sir, You are right I forget to get information back from CLI to Php
file. Thanks for provide the help link.I will revert back after testing my
code with your guidance 
  

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:21 PM, DHAVAL INDRODIYA
dhaval.it01...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi
You can use simple cli command
Manager show connected



On Thursday, August 25, 2011, James zhu zhulizh...@live.com wrote:
 hi:
 please refer this:
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+Example:+PHP
 and check the manager.conf, make sure the accounts in managers.conf matchs
the managers displayed.

 Best regards,
 James.zhu
 Doing asterisk/PRI/ss7/dahdi, linux, asterisk cards,
gateway(fxs/fxo/pri-SIP).
 website: www.voipviews.com


 
 From: gohar.ah...@vopium.com
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:26:53 +0500
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to know how many user is connected

 I’m not a php expert, but seems your php script is incomplete/ you are
sending to socket (fputs) but note receiving anything(fgets) :


 See this page
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+Example:+PHP will help
you.



  

  

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of virendra bhati
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:16 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] How to know how many user is connected

  

 Hi List,

 I want to know how many manager is connected into asterisk server. I have
made simple file but I don't have any idea how to get information back from
Asterisk CLI

 ?php

   $socket = fsockopen(127.0.0.1,5038, $errno, $errstr, 30);
   if (!$socket)
   {
  $done=0;
   } else {
   fputs($socket, Action: Login\r\n);
   fputs($socket, UserName: root\r\n);
   

[asterisk-users] DMTF via rfc2833 and SIP-INFO simultaneously

2011-08-26 Thread Kristijan Vrban
Hello, i have a carrier that send DMTF via rfc2833 and SIP-INFO
simultaneously. That has the effect, that asterisk read every dtmf
twice. and yes, it's mainly the carriers mistake. but is there a
configure option, that asterisk accept only one DMTF method for
inbound dtmf?

Kristijan

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[asterisk-users] Wanted a modified SIP message body

2011-08-26 Thread Jaime Lozano
Hello everybody,
I want Asterisk Server to send packets (SIP packets) to some 3Com telephones
with the text TZ: 7200\n (ie Time Zone = two hours) in the message body
because 3com PBX sends this variable. I would like to know if I it is
possible to configure Asterisk to do it, and how.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk spontaneous reboot

2011-08-26 Thread Kristijan Vrban
use gdb (The GNU Project Debugger) to take a look into the core dump

gdb asterisk  core.sip.pbx.tld-2011-08-26T08:07:35+0200

Kristijan

2011/8/26 Jonas Kellens jonas.kell...@telenet.be:
 Hello,

 Today I restart the MySQL-DB (/sbin/service mysqld restart) and I could no
 longer connect to asterisk (/usr/sbin/asterisk -r) for a few seconds.

 There is now a core dump present in /tmp :

 -rw--- 1 root root  88M Aug 26 08:07
 core.sip.pbx.tld-2011-08-26T08:07:35+0200


 How can I get usefull information about what went wrong ? Because a
 spontaneous reboot of Asterisk has never happened before when just
 restarting the MySQL-deamon.



 Kind regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Wanted a modified SIP message body

2011-08-26 Thread Sam Govind
Use the  *SIPAddHeader(Header:Content)* application in dialplan. I don't
think Method specific SIP headers can be done via asterisk.

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jaime Lozano jaimelozan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello everybody,
 I want Asterisk Server to send packets (SIP packets) to some 3Com
 telephones with the text TZ: 7200\n (ie Time Zone = two hours) in the
 message body because 3com PBX sends this variable. I would like to know if I
 it is possible to configure Asterisk to do it, and how.

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Re: [asterisk-users] red alarm on tdm400 fxo (fxs signalled)

2011-08-26 Thread Kelvin Chua
waitfordialtone=yes on chan_dahdi.conf is supposed to be the perfect
solution, but does it work on on UK lines?

Kelvin Chua


On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Kelvin Chua kel...@gmail.com wrote:

 i am comparing the experience of using an analog span to a T1 for example:
 if i have a 3 quad port t1 card, with the initial view of dahdi_tool, i can
 easily tell if a line is not working
 now supposed i have a system with 3 24port cards, with just watching the
 main view of dahdi_tool,
 i cannot do that, i still need to go into each one, and look at the stats

 maybe it's just me but i think it's making things easier for everyone if
 there is some sort of an indication
 there like
 please-take-a-look-at-this-as-i-have-a-port-here-without-a-battery (not
 really yellow, perhaps orange? :D)


 using callprogress is *experimental*
 ; This feature can also easily detect false hangups. The symptoms of this
 is
 ; being disconnected in the middle of a call for no reason.
 it's actually ok for me, but for other zones, it might not be adviseable.
 for example, calling a mobile phone and a
 landline would give you a different tone and cadence for the ringback thus
 billing apps will be completely screwed.
 (unless already anticipated by the billing software)

 what i have in mind is just plain simple. when the fxo port goes offhook,
 it waits for the dial tone (based on tonezone)
 after that, nothing more so as to avoid detection of false hangups. i think
 this is not too hard as Newman Ventures implemented
 something like this before.

 Kelvin Chua



 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Shaun Ruffell sruff...@digium.comwrote:

 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:58:10AM +0800, Kelvin Chua wrote:
  I should clarify on my post, i can see a red alarm on cat /proc/dahdi/1
 but
  never when using dahdi_tool
 
  in cat /proc/dahdi/1:
  Span 1: WCTDM/4 Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F Board 5 (MASTER)
 
 1 WCTDM/4/0 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 2 WCTDM/4/1 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 3 WCTDM/4/2 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 4 WCTDM/4/3 FXSKS (In use) RED(SWEC: OSLEC)
 
  In dahdi_tool:
  Tx/Rx Levels: 0/  0
  Total/Conf/Act:   4/  4/  0
 
  but the behavior status alarm is OK
  a little bit misleading, what i am thinking is adding a sort of yellow
  alarm or something if one of the configured fxo lines
  goes down?

 I understand now. Yes, dahdi_tool is showing the alarm status for
 the entire span, and for analog cards, the entire span is always
 essentially green. It's the individual channels that can go into red
 alarm unlike on digital spans.

 Why do you want to add a yellow status? What are you trying to
 accomplish that you cannot with the way things are now?

  another thing, what if 1 of the configured lines' battery is up, but
 there
  is no dial tone? outbound calls will try to go through
  and the caller will hear dead air.

 'callprogress=yes' in chan_dahdi.conf won't help you here? It may be
 able to detect dialtone before attempting to dial out.

 --
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 Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer
 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
 Check us out at: www.digium.com  www.asterisk.org

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread linux guy
Great discussion, all of it.  Thanks, people.

How much power does the home asterisk box need ?

I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project.
About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM.  Atom 510 processor.  Built
in Wifi.  Nearly silent.  Runs F15 nicely.  Would one of them suffice ?

FWIW, I'm typing this email on one now because my main system is down.

It looks like I am going to need an ATA for the fax machines.  Two.  My wife
informed me yesterday she wants her own in her office.  VOIP handles fax
machines, right ?

I'm wondering what phones everyone is using.   Should I stick with analog
wireless handsets or are there some good SIP wireless phones out there that
I don't know about ???

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Re: [asterisk-users] Wanted a modified SIP message body

2011-08-26 Thread Jaime Lozano
Hello,
In which file do I use SIPAddHeader()?
Please consider that the packet goes from the PBX to the telephone, and what
I want is not a header because the TZ: 7200\n is in the *message body* not
in the *message header*.

Have a nice day

2011/8/26 Sam Govind govoi...@gmail.com

 Use the  *SIPAddHeader(Header:Content)* application in dialplan. I don't
 think Method specific SIP headers can be done via asterisk.

 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Jaime Lozano jaimelozan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello everybody,
 I want Asterisk Server to send packets (SIP packets) to some 3Com
 telephones with the text TZ: 7200\n (ie Time Zone = two hours) in the
 message body because 3com PBX sends this variable. I would like to know if I
 it is possible to configure Asterisk to do it, and how.

 have a nice day!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread John Novack

If you really want to go that route, you should also look at AstLinux and 
install it on an HP thin client such as a 5720. No Hard Drive spinning, and 
something like 30 watts. No fan either. All the asterisk files can be edited 
either through SSH or a web interface.

I have a bunch out working for a private VOIP  network of telephone collectors. 
Many also integrate PSTN lines through various means
5720's can be had on eBay for a LOT less money

John Novack


linux guy wrote:


Great discussion, all of it.  Thanks, people.

How much power does the home asterisk box need ?

I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project.  About 
$280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM.  Atom 510 processor.  Built in Wifi.  
Nearly silent.  Runs F15 nicely.  Would one of them suffice ?

FWIW, I'm typing this email on one now because my main system is down.

It looks like I am going to need an ATA for the fax machines.  Two.  My wife 
informed me yesterday she wants her own in her office.  VOIP handles fax 
machines, right ?

I'm wondering what phones everyone is using.   Should I stick with analog 
wireless handsets or are there some good SIP wireless phones out there that I 
don't know about ???

Thanks.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Wanted a modified SIP message body

2011-08-26 Thread Olle E. Johansson

26 aug 2011 kl. 14:06 skrev Jaime Lozano:

 Hello,
 In which file do I use SIPAddHeader()?
 Please consider that the packet goes from the PBX to the telephone, and what 
 I want is not a header because the TZ: 7200\n is in the *message body* not 
 in the *message header*.

That's no longer a SIP header, it's part of the SDP you want to change. You 
can't do that without changing the source code.

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[asterisk-users] app_sms testers required

2011-08-26 Thread David Woodhouse
There are three problems with app_sms in Asterisk 1.8.5.0:

 - It fails to initialise a 'flags' variable and ends up sending with
   protocol 2 in some cases when it shouldn't, which obviously fails.

 - The smsq tool fails to install its call file into the outgoing queue
   in a way that Asterisk will see it.

 - If disconnect supervision isn't functioning or inbanddisconnect=yes
   is set in chan_dahdi.conf, it will keep bitching about 'bad stop bit'
   over and over again, without even a newline at the end of the
   message, even when we *told* the peer to go away by sending a REL
   message.

These issues are all fixed with the patch in
https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-18331

Apparently we need a popularity contest even for the obviously-correct
parts of the above which have been reported elsewhere¹ in the bug
tracking system but ignored. So if any users of app_sms could test the
patch and confirm that it works for them, it would be massively
appreciated. And would reduce the chances of me getting too frustrated
with Asterisk and spending my time helping out with other projects which
will appreciate it more.

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https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-15361?focusedCommentId=160885#comment-160885


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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Steve Edwards

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, linux guy wrote:


How much power does the home asterisk box need ? 


Much less than you would think. Any modern processor is more than enough.

I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project.  
About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM.  Atom 510 processor.  
Built in Wifi.  Nearly silent.  Runs F15 nicely.  Would one of them 
suffice ?


More than enough unless your extended multi-generation family lives with 
you. And you multiply like rabbits. And you all want to talk at the same 
time.


The LinuxMCE (http://http://linuxmce.org/) project may be of interest to 
you. They integrate Asterisk, Myth, home automation and the kitchen sink 
into a single distribution. They just announced their 8.10 release 
candidate a couple of days ago.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Queue Group not forwaring calls to agents

2011-08-26 Thread Kristijan Vrban
did you find al solution for this issues? i fight with the same problem.

kristijan

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[asterisk-users] SIP Trace to troubleshoot one way of communications

2011-08-26 Thread bilal ghayyad
Hi All;

How can I get a SIP trace to troubleshoot a one way of communications? I need 
to see what is happenning in the packets to know the reason of the problem.

Thanks
Regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Dave Platt

 Great discussion, all of it.  Thanks, people.
 
 How much power does the home asterisk box need ?
 
 I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another project.
 About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM.  Atom 510 processor.  Built
 in Wifi.  Nearly silent.  Runs F15 nicely.  Would one of them suffice ?

I'm running my small home Asterisk system on an Itox motherboard
with an Atom N270, at 1.6 GHz.  No CPU-related problems noted.
In fact, I'd run it fairly successfully on a Pentium Pro 200,
and it worked well enough for simple uses (e.g. no fancy
codecs or transcoding).

 It looks like I am going to need an ATA for the fax machines.  Two.  My wife
 informed me yesterday she wants her own in her office.  VOIP handles fax
 machines, right ?

This could very well be the most problematic (heart-breaking, frustrating)
part of your whole intended installation.

Fax - modem - very sensitive to jitter and dropouts.  Making fax
work over VoIP (using A-law or u-law) is often feasible within a
LAN environment, because the jitter and packet-loss rates are low.
Making fax work decently on VoIP over the Internet is much harder...
jitter and packet-loss rates which would be slightly annoying for
a voice conversation can seriously disrupt or abort a fax call.

Some (relatively few) VoIP providers support a specialized mode
called T.38. in which their far end equipment intervenes in the
fax protocol in order to smooth out the process of making fax
work over a lossy/jittery/high-latency VoIP connection.  This isn't
common and seems to be hard to count on.

I suspect you'll be better off either:

(1) maintaining one analog land-line, and using it for fax
(and perhaps backup for VoIP), and/or

(2) subscribing to a commercial fax to email gateway service,
in which people send their faxes to a number owned by the
service provider, and the resulting fax is converted to a
compressed PDF and then emailed to you.  I imagine that
some of these providers also have an email to fax
service, operating in the reverse direction... you email
a PDF or other file to an address alias they provide, and
it's faxed out for you.

You *can* operate a sort of hybrid system in your house, if
that's convenient to you... e.g. a SIP ATA for your fax
machine, to Asterisk, to an analog land-line (via either a
dedicated PCI bus card, or an outbound port on a channel bank
or certain ATA devices).  The jitter and delay on the home
LAN would be low enough that this should work reliably.
You could also run a combination of hylafax, and iaxmodem
on the Asterisk system, and thus use the Asterisk server as
a fax-to-email / email-to-fax / document-to-fax gateway.

 I'm wondering what phones everyone is using.   Should I stick with analog
 wireless handsets or are there some good SIP wireless phones out there that
 I don't know about ???

Several companies make DECT SIP phones and systems... typically I
think they'll handle 4 to 6 DECT handsets, and a couple of independent
SIP calls at any given moment.  These may or may not be less expensive
than buying some one- or two-analog-line SIP systems, and some
ATAs;  they'd definitely involve less equipment and wiring.


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[asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread linux guy
I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home asterisk
system.

Any ideas ?

Thanks !

LG
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread jon pounder

On 08/26/2011 02:02 PM, linux guy wrote:


get any cheap android device and load linphone.

or grandstream works for a wired device.

gxp2000 has enough line buttons you can easily route calls for multiple 
people to a phone and tell who the call is for


I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home 
asterisk system.


Any ideas ?

Thanks !

LG


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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread linux guy
I was thinking of using a PAP2T-NA for the ATA to handle the fax.  It
appears to have a large number of fax specific settings.  Can anyone comment
on using this device with a fax ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread linux guy
In our house, we need wireless.  I have a Grandstream already.

I am looking for something with a form factor more conventional than a
cellphone.  Maybe that is silly ?  I see various unlocked large screen
Android devices for ~$150.

I was hoping to spend on the order of $50 per handset.

I don't understand why (other than economies of scale) that I can buy
various wireless POTS wireless systems (base and multiple handsets) for
$100 and yet a single VOIP wireless handset is $150.

Any comments on integrating a wireless POTS system into an asterisk system ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread jon pounder

On 08/26/2011 02:18 PM, linux guy wrote:

In our house, we need wireless.  I have a Grandstream already.

I am looking for something with a form factor more conventional than a 
cellphone.  Maybe that is silly ?  I see various unlocked large screen 
Android devices for ~$150.


not sure what you mean more than a cellphone ?

get an ata such as an SPA series with 2 channels on it  or PAP2T and 
plug a cordless base station in each one if you want to go cheap.


it works but a single line cordless does not at all do justice to what 
can be done with asterisk.



When you say large screen are you talking about an APAD type thing?  
they work just fine mounted on the wall (I use them for intercom and 
general control system interface) but I would not walk around holding 
one to my ear.








I was hoping to spend on the order of $50 per handset.

I don't understand why (other than economies of scale) that I can buy 
various wireless POTS wireless systems (base and multiple handsets) 
for $100 and yet a single VOIP wireless handset is $150.


Any comments on integrating a wireless POTS system into an asterisk 
system ?



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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere



On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, linux guy wrote:
 I was thinking of using a PAP2T-NA for the ATA to handle the fax.  It
 appears to have a large number of fax specific settings.  Can anyone
 comment on using this device with a fax ?

If you are using POTs to bring in your fax calls you should be ok for
home use.  I do this with a PAP2T-NA, Hylafax, and iaxmodem.  I have
iaxmodem accept the fax, then relay it to the PAP2T.  I use the second
port to drive a Panasonic DECT base station with five satellites, which
I have spread around the house.  The Panasonic is the only one I have
found that has the ability to host a ton of satellites without having a
ton of redundant features on the base station (don't really need an
answering machine, for example).  Its also the only one where the
handsets have nice 2.5mm headset jacks, which I use all day.

I've never really understood the need for wireless SIP handsets.  An ATA
plus a normal DECT set seems perfect to me.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread Geoff Lane
On Friday, August 26, 2011, linux guy wrote:

 Any comments on integrating a wireless POTS system into an asterisk
 system ?

All you need is an ATA channel per handset ...

FWIW, I've got three DECT analog phones in my system: two are hooked
into a Linksys PAP2 and the third is hooked into a Grandstream ATA286.
These are just like any other SIP client as far as Asterisk is
concerned.

I also had one hooked up via a Digium IAXy. ATM, the PAP2 route seems
the cheapest as there's loads on eBay (at least, there are in UK).
Just make sure what you get is unlocked because some VOIP providers
use them and lock them into their own networks.

HTH,

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread linux guy
Do any of the DECT systems handle multiple incoming phone lines ?

How do the DECT systems integrate with the voice mail services on an
Asterisk system ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:37 -0600, linux guy wrote:
 
 Do any of the DECT systems handle multiple incoming phone lines ?
 
 How do the DECT systems integrate with the voice mail services on an
 Asterisk system ?

The single line Panasonic that I use doesn't handle multiple phone lines
itself, but the ATA will give you call waiting capability, and
asterisk will give you the ability to take in multiple DID numbers (via
ITSP or POTS).

The voicemail in Asterisk is used via the dialplan like you would with
any handset.  With stock FreePBX, for example, you would dial *97 to
access the voicemail associated with the extension that covers that PORT
(which would be ALL of the handsets on that basestation).

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread jon pounder

On 08/26/2011 02:26 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:



On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:10 -0600, linux guy wrote:

I was thinking of using a PAP2T-NA for the ATA to handle the fax.  It
appears to have a large number of fax specific settings.  Can anyone
comment on using this device with a fax ?

If you are using POTs to bring in your fax calls you should be ok for
home use.  I do this with a PAP2T-NA, Hylafax, and iaxmodem.  I have
iaxmodem accept the fax, then relay it to the PAP2T.  I use the second
port to drive a Panasonic DECT base station with five satellites, which
I have spread around the house.  The Panasonic is the only one I have
found that has the ability to host a ton of satellites without having a
ton of redundant features on the base station (don't really need an
answering machine, for example).  Its also the only one where the
handsets have nice 2.5mm headset jacks, which I use all day.

I've never really understood the need for wireless SIP handsets.  An ATA
plus a normal DECT set seems perfect to me.


The way I use it I have one device in my pocket, I can get my calls on 
the couch, in the yard, down the street, at the office or in another city.


sip + wifi doesn't just have to be at your house, it can be anywhere 
there is wifi available.







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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 08/26/2011 01:02 PM, linux guy wrote:
 I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home
 asterisk system.

I don't have any experience with them, but the Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
seems to be about the best price point:

  http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip

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Re: [asterisk-users] SIP Trace to troubleshoot one way of communications

2011-08-26 Thread jesie
Hi,

Sip debug can be enabled thru asterisk CLI.  SIP signaling trace is printed on 
the console or terminal if you're connected on asterisk CLI.

If you want a complete trace of signaling  media packets, packet capturing 
tools like tcpdump, ethereal  wireshark will perfectly address your concerns.

Try to be oriented on the packet capturing tools available on the OS your 
asterisk is installed with.

Regards

Jesie



On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:53 PM, bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi All;
 
 How can I get a SIP trace to troubleshoot a one way of communications? I need 
 to see what is happenning in the packets to know the reason of the problem.
 
 Thanks
 Regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread linux guy
I like the idea of running multiple ATAs with a single base or handset on
each line.

Something like the Panasonic KX-TG4111B which sells for about $40 for a
handset and base.   PAP2s sell for about $50 or $25 per line.  Total cost of
$65 per handset.

Comments on this approach ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread linux guy
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 08/26/2011 01:02 PM, linux guy wrote:
  I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for my home
  asterisk system.

 I don't have any experience with them, but the Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
 seems to be about the best price point:

  http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip


Will those handsets talk directly to the SIP server ?  Ie, can one throw
away the base station ?
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Re: [asterisk-users] app_sms testers required

2011-08-26 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 08/26/2011 09:29 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:

There are three problems with app_sms in Asterisk 1.8.5.0:

  - It fails to initialise a 'flags' variable and ends up sending with
protocol 2 in some cases when it shouldn't, which obviously fails.

  - The smsq tool fails to install its call file into the outgoing queue
in a way that Asterisk will see it.

  - If disconnect supervision isn't functioning or inbanddisconnect=yes
is set in chan_dahdi.conf, it will keep bitching about 'bad stop bit'
over and over again, without even a newline at the end of the
message, even when we *told* the peer to go away by sending a REL
message.

These issues are all fixed with the patch in
https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-18331

Apparently we need a popularity contest even for the obviously-correct
parts of the above which have been reported elsewhere¹ in the bug
tracking system but ignored. So if any users of app_sms could test the
patch and confirm that it works for them, it would be massively
appreciated. And would reduce the chances of me getting too frustrated
with Asterisk and spending my time helping out with other projects which
will appreciate it more.


That's pretty harsh, David. This has nothing to do with lack of 
appreciation, and everything to do with a limited set of developer 
resources and a *massive* pile of issues to deal with.


As far as the team of people that Digium employs, the issues they work 
on are selected by using a process in our department that emphasizes 
'return on investment'; a combination of the 'value to the community' of 
the issue being addressed and the amount of effort it is likely to 
consume. I hope you'd agree that spending time on issues that affect a 
large percentage of the user community, even if they take a longer 
period of time, is a better choice than addressing (possibly many) quick 
issues that don't affect a significant portion of the user community. 
Yes, every issue affects *someone* in the user community, and for them, 
it's important. However, I'd ask you to look over the ChangeLogs for the 
last few releases, for work that was done by the Digium developers, and 
point out anything you feel provided less value to the community than 
fixing problems in app_sms.


There are still quite a few community developers actively working on 
Asterisk, and of course they are free to help move your issues along. In 
addition, if you are willing to be the 'maintainer' for the areas of 
Asterisk that interest you, that option is open as well. It's always 
better for the community as a whole if there are people with direct 
interest in specific modules/applications/etc. who are maintaining them.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 13:18 -0600, linux guy wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 On 08/26/2011 01:02 PM, linux guy wrote:
  I'm looking for 4 to 6 good, inexpensive VOIP handsets for
 my home
  asterisk system.
 
 
 I don't have any experience with them, but the Siemens Gigaset
 A580 IP
 seems to be about the best price point:
 
  http://www.voipsupply.com/siemens-gigaset-a580-ip
 
 
 Will those handsets talk directly to the SIP server ?  Ie, can one
 throw away the base station ? 
 
 --

Not the base station - you throw away the ATA.  But yes, that is the
idea.  I have to admit that price point is starting to look more
attractive.

At least for my house phone my family expects to be able to pick up any
handset in the house and be in conference with whatever conversation
is going on, and I have solved that.

I understand the benefits of a SIP client on a wifi / 3G+ phone, but
when I have tried that in the past a few things have gotten in the way:

* battery life on smartphones basically sucks !@#$@, and I find my
smartphone is plugged into its charger more often than it is in my
pocket, so I like the idea of handsets being littered around the house
* voice and call quality - at least the last time I tried this
(admittedly over a year ago) - was really lacking and inconsistent, and
if on the road handoff usually breaks the call between towers
* too complex for the wife ;)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Ira

At 04:28 AM 8/26/2011, you wrote:
I'm using Asus Eee Box (1012Ps) as Myth front ends in another 
project.  About $280 with 320 Gb hard drive and 2 GB RAM.  Atom 510 
processor.  Built in Wifi.  Nearly silent.  Runs F15 nicely.  Would 
one of them suffice ?


I have a dual core Atom I use for my home office Asterisk/Samba box. 
Never seen TOP show over 5% unless I was doing a build or something. 
I have a Digium Analog card for my POTS lines so I needed a bigger 
case. I use faxaway.com which costs $12/year for a fax number and 
essentially unlimited email delivered faxes. Makes my wife happy and 
I don't have to figure out how to get faxes to work.


Ira 



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Re: [asterisk-users] Good, inexpensive wireless VOIP handsets ?

2011-08-26 Thread jon pounder

On 08/26/2011 03:17 PM, linux guy wrote:
I like the idea of running multiple ATAs with a single base or handset 
on each line.


Something like the Panasonic KX-TG4111B which sells for about $40 for 
a handset and base.   PAP2s sell for about $50 or $25 per line.  Total 
cost of $65 per handset.


Comments on this approach ?


I use it mixed in with other types of devices. The pap's really are 
pretty flexible devices for the money. I have one cordless but mostly 
wired fax, and doorphone.


I have a rack of them and each just terminates into the building wiring 
for phone jacks, so at the user end its just a regular phone plugged in 
the wall.


I used to have t1 card and channel bank, but that became a single 
expensive point of failure, needs a pc that has pci slots, and really is 
no more programmable than the sip boxes. So that is why I switched. The 
cordless handsets I just don't really like for reasons I have gone into 
already but that doesn't mean they don't work.




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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Geoff Lane
On Friday, August 26, 2011, linux guy wrote:

 Do any of the DECT systems handle multiple incoming phone lines ?

They don't. However, that's not an issue because Asterisk does.
Incoming, I have two PSTN lines, three SIP providers, and used to have
an IAX2 provider also. Asterisk integrates them all and uses
least-cost routing to place outgoing calls through the various trunks.

 How do the DECT systems integrate with the voice mail services on an
 Asterisk system ?

Exactly the same as all other handsets and softphones. Voicemail comes
into my email as well as being available by dialling the appropriate
voicemail number from any handset.

In another message you mentioned using a PAP2 with a Panasonic phone
on each line. This is similar to what I have and it works well for me.

HTH,

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 07:41 -0700, Steve Edwards wrote:
 On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, linux guy wrote:
 
  How much power does the home asterisk box need ? 

I use a small box (like those hp thin clients)
But these are a bit stronger aluminium housing, instead of plastic,
and better foor cooling.

Power consumption: 8 Watt under full load
CPU:  Model: 6.28.2 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU Z530   @ 1.60GHz
Memory Size: 1 GB
Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes
This model has just one ethernet port, others have two
Size: 10x10 cm

hw

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Re: [asterisk-users] app_sms testers required

2011-08-26 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 14:51 -0500, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
 That's pretty harsh, David. 

Yes, sorry. You're right... especially given that one of my 'obviously
correct' fixes to the spool file handling was actually the wrong fix. :)

Following the IRC discussion about that, I've now got a working patch to
the inotify code which makes it handle hard links correctly. I've filed
it against ASTERISK-18331.

I certainly don't mean to suggest that the Digium development team isn't
doing an excellent job, or that their priorities are wrong.

I don't expect you to fix app_sms (or implement app_v110); I'm perfectly
happy to do that *myself*. I'm more than happy to be the maintainer for
both of those, if you think that's the best way forward.

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home phone system

2011-08-26 Thread Eric Wieling
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From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Hans Witvliet
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:09 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Looking for ideas for nice **Asterisk** home 
phone system

On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 07:41 -0700, Steve Edwards wrote:
 On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, linux guy wrote:
 
  How much power does the home asterisk box need ? 

I use a small box (like those hp thin clients) But these are a bit stronger 
aluminium housing, instead of plastic, and better foor cooling.

Power consumption: 8 Watt under full load
CPU:  Model: 6.28.2 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU Z530   @ 1.60GHz
Memory Size: 1 GB
Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64023257088 bytes This model has just one ethernet 
port, others have two
Size: 10x10 cm

Is this a custom build box or does a company sell them preassembled?We are 
always on the lookout for potential boxes we can use for small installations.

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