Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying

2012-12-29 Thread Steve Karmeinsky
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:41:30AM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:

[snip]
 Wow.  Didn't know there was a rule...  I never got the whole argument.
  If the flow is top posting, I top post.  If I am certain I can answer
 a simple question with a simple answer, sometimes I will just top
 post.

The first rule of asterisk mailing lists ...

/coat

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[asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Don Kelly
As I did two years ago, I'm posting a new thread with the Top Posting
subject rather than hijacking the Paging for Praying thread.

 

Two questions:

 

1.   Steve K: What do you mean by /coat?

2.   How do we change rule #5?

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Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk seg fault 1.4.43

2012-12-29 Thread Jerry Geis

Shouldn't there be:
ao2_lock()/ao2_unlock() and ao2_ref()'s
in the ast_readaudio_callback() function

What if a hangup is happening while in this function?
That seems like what could be happening.

Jerry

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[asterisk-users] Volume of messages on asterisk-users mailing list.

2012-12-29 Thread Shaun Ruffell
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:41:30AM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 Even more off topic.  Can someone smarter than me get the post
 totals for each year?  I was #1 one year.  I am not even talking
 about individual post counts though.  It just seems the list has
 died for the most part.

There is a graph of the daily posting rate at:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.user

If you click on the image you'll get the raw data which looks
something like:

  date posting-rate spam-rate
  20030217 11 0
  20030218 54 0
  20030219 67 0
  20030220 42 0
  20030221 43 0
  20030222 28 0
  20030223 41 0
  ...

I'll leave generating the yearly totals as an exercise for the
gentle reader.

You can see from the graph how much the activity on the mailing list
has dropped off. I imagine that should be expected as the technology
matures and there are other good sources of documentation. Also,
there are active forums [1] for those who do not want to be bothered
by top vs bottom posting and want a more tighly controlled
presentation of any discussions.

[1] http://forums.asterisk.org.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Steve Edwards

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Don Kelly wrote:


2.   How do we change rule #5?


-1.

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[asterisk-users] Users list email totals by year .

2012-12-29 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere


2003, 24471
2004, 48608
2005, 59116
2006, 41215
2007, 26414
2008, 20746
2009, 18304
2010, 14948
2011, 11588
2012, 7542

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Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Pete Mundy
On 30/12/2012, Steve Edwards wrote:

 On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Don Kelly wrote:
 
 2.   How do we change rule #5?
 
 -1.

+ -1 from me too!

Ie I dislike top-posting on mailing lists and if a democratic approach was 
taken to rule changes (I have no idea is this is the case?) then I would vote 
against the change.

Just my 2c since we're discussing it.

Pete



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Re: [asterisk-users] DECT phone for home: siemens A510 v. Grandstream DP715

2012-12-29 Thread Pete Mundy
Hi Roy  others.

Sorry for the delayed reply to this thread. The holiday period delayed my 
testing of the A510 and C610 range further, but I have now had a chance to give 
them a little 'ear time'.

On 12/12/2012, at 5:30 PM, Co-op Vacation Rentals coo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for testing these out.  You said you like the 510 vs 580.  Which one 
 is newer?  I have the 580.  I'm staying tuned for your review of the 610.  
 The 580 isn't DECT compatible and only supports some of the Gigaset handsets.
 I might sell mine and upgrade depending on what you learn about it.
 
 Can you tell me a little more about what you are testing for?
 Quality?
 Simultaneous In/Outgoing Calls using 1 or Multiple SIP accounts.
 Conference Calling?
 Any other Features?

My tests were just for basic functionality of the devices as normal run of the 
mill phones. I wanted to know for example, weather they had any annoying 
'glitches' like the 580's insistence on telling me You have new messages when 
there is only a missed call, or other practical usage issues.

After testing the A510 and C610 my opinion is that I would go for the C610 any 
day. I suspect the A510 is a 'newer' release than the A580 (which seems to be 
EOL now), however I'm not entirely certain about that. The web GUI for the 510 
and the 610 are visually very similar, but both are different to the 580. I 
suspect the 510/610 run a newer shared firmware which has evolved from the 580 
(the 510/610 GUI gives hints of this and it looks overall far more polished 
than the 580).

The 510 handset is quite basic (lower-res mono with coloured backlight). The 
610 handset is visually similar to the 510 (although not the same), but more 
glossy and has a much nicer LCD (colour, higher res). I suspect the 610's 
handset CPU is a little faster too.

I'm surprised to hear you say the 580 isn't DECT compatible. It's manual 
indicates it supports both DECT and GAP, so should be able to take handset 
registrations from other brand handsets (and also register the Gigaset handsets 
with other DECT bases, if desired). Is this not your experience?

I note that the range of other Gigaset handsets compatible with the 580 base is 
a reasonable list too, as shown at hte URL you provided:

 http://gigaset.com/us/en/cms/PageCustomerServicesCompatibility.html


Your link indicates that the C610H handset can be used with your A580OIP base. 
I reckon that would be worth giving a try because the 610 is a nice handset and 
if it works with your bases then it might be a good solution for additional 
phones.

I haven't tested this at all with the 580, but I can confirm that the A510 and 
C610 do happily interoperate with each other (ie, I was able to register my 
A510H with the C610 base and then my C610H with the A510 base). Once the second 
handset was registered with the base, I created a second SIP account login 
definition and assigned the first account to the first handset and the second 
account to the second handset. You can define which handsets receive incoming 
calls on a per SIP account basis and also define which SIP account each handset 
will use for outgoing calls on an individual handset basis.

The configuration options available on each model of base (510/610) appear to 
be identical. This is what makes me think they share a common firmware.

Both handsets do provide notification for missed calls, but thankfully they can 
be configured via the base-station configuration to not flash their MWI led for 
this condition.

What I haven't tried (due to not having any) is registering a standard DECT 
cordless (one that comes with a PoTS analog base) to either of the Gigaset 
base-stations. If that does work OK (fingers crossed), these base-stations 
could be a great upgrade for households with existing analog DECT cordlesses.

Anyway, to wrap up, a note on the other items you asked - I did test 2 
simultaneous SIP calls on separate accounts (and also calling each other via 
the Asterisk server). I only tested with ulaw since that's all we use on this 
server. So note that I haven't tested running 2 concurrent calls using a CPU 
intensive codec; that would be interesting, but out of scope for what I'm 
looking right now. Call quality with 2 ulaw calls in progress is great, just as 
good as a single. I didn't give 3-way conference any decent time testing I'm 
afraid. I did have a shot at it following the instructions in the manual on the 
610 but seemed to only be able to effect a call transfer, not a 3-way bridge. 
But I really didn't give that any decent time and I'm fairly sure that it was 
me doing something wrong there before moving on and not going back.

I have both phones here for another fortnight or so. If there is something 
specific you want tested then let me know and I'll see if I can oblige. 
Otherwise my recommendation is focus on the 610 for now - it's a nice wee phone 
which isn't all that much more expensive, and possibly able to be retro-fitted 
to your existing 

Re: [asterisk-users] Digital accoustics trying to register to asterisk 1.4.43

2012-12-29 Thread Pete Mundy
On 14/12/2012, at 9:51 AM, Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com wrote:

 I did notice one more thing:
 chan_sip.c:17045 handle_request_register: Registration from 
 '5001sip:5001%4010.239.46.200@10.239.46.200' failed for '137.52.88.195' - 
 No matching peer found
 
 Why is there no matching peer I have it defined. I shows in my sip show 
 peers?

I wonder if in fact you have entered into the phone's web GUI the username 
5001@10.239.46.200 when you should have just entered 5001 (with the server 
name being defined elsewhere in the config, eg as the 'domain' value or the 
'proxy' value).

It looks to me as if the phone has encoded the string '5001@10.239.46.200' into 
the username '5001%4010.239.46.200' and then tried to connect to the server 
10.239.46.200 as that user (when in fact you actually want it to simply connect 
as '5001').

Worth trying? Could be a quick fix...

Pete



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Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Logan Bibby
I'm a +1 for the change, should it come to a vote.

I realize the benefits of bottom-posting, especially when posting inline.
But top-posting keeps things in reverse chronological order so any reader
could catch up quickly on any missed messages in the chain. A new reader
scrolls to the bottom and reads up.

- Logan
On Dec 29, 2012 7:22 PM, Pete Mundy p...@fiberphone.co.nz wrote:

 On 30/12/2012, Steve Edwards wrote:

  On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Don Kelly wrote:
 
  2.   How do we change rule #5?
 
  -1.

 + -1 from me too!

 Ie I dislike top-posting on mailing lists and if a democratic approach was
 taken to rule changes (I have no idea is this is the case?) then I would
 vote against the change.

 Just my 2c since we're discussing it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Richard Kenner
 I realize the benefits of bottom-posting, especially when posting
 inline. But top-posting keeps things in reverse chronological order
 so any reader could catch up quickly on any missed messages in the
 chain. A new reader scrolls to the bottom and reads up.

What's there to catch up with if you don't first read what the person
is replying to?  Do you think that everybody remembers every thread.
Of what value is it to see something like No, that didn't work. *before*
a description of what it was that didn't work.

When people reply to an email, it's their responsibility, whether they
top-post or bottom-post to remove unnecessary old message and keep just
what's necessary to understand the email.

One of the problems with top-posting is that it makes it easier to forget
to do this.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting

2012-12-29 Thread Logan Bibby
I suppose I'm one of the few people that remember the content of threads by
subject and easily catch up...

I'm also on my phone 99% of the time time and the way Gmail lays out emails
makes top-posting beneficial to me.
On Dec 29, 2012 8:57 PM, Richard Kenner ken...@gnat.com wrote:

  I realize the benefits of bottom-posting, especially when posting
  inline. But top-posting keeps things in reverse chronological order
  so any reader could catch up quickly on any missed messages in the
  chain. A new reader scrolls to the bottom and reads up.

 What's there to catch up with if you don't first read what the person
 is replying to?  Do you think that everybody remembers every thread.
 Of what value is it to see something like No, that didn't work. *before*
 a description of what it was that didn't work.

 When people reply to an email, it's their responsibility, whether they
 top-post or bottom-post to remove unnecessary old message and keep just
 what's necessary to understand the email.

 One of the problems with top-posting is that it makes it easier to forget
 to do this.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Users list email totals by year .

2012-12-29 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

On 12/29/2012 05:20 PM, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:


2003, 24471
2004, 48608
2005, 59116
2006, 41215
2007, 26414
2008, 20746
2009, 18304
2010, 14948
2011, 11588
2012, 7542



If you remove the top-posting thread, it may cut it in half again.

j

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