Re: [asterisk-users] Fwd: Your message to asterisk-users awaits moderator approval

2021-01-25 Thread Joshua C. Colp 
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:04 PM Jeff LaCoursiere 
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>
> A 40Kb limit seems a bit draconian these days.  I simply attached a small
> pic to illustrate a point.  May I vote to up the limit?  100K?
>

I've increased it and we'll see how it goes.

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[asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-01-25 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere 

On 1/25/21 12:12 PM, Steve Edwards wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

So how does this guy get around it?  It sounds to me like he is 
offering to sign calls for whoever, which IMO totally defeats the 
purpose.


IIRC, back when he first started hawking his solution, he accepted 
everything. Numbers from Vitelity, my old out of service copper 
number, 555-555-.


I'm all for the discussion, but can you start a new thread so we don't 
keep associating the innocent party (the OP) with this spammer.


Excellent point, started new thread.

In my digging today it seems I need to become a SHAKEN service provider, 
and there is a rather lengthy and difficult process to go through to 
become one (this slide from a Bandwidth.com seminar):


Has anyone gone through this recently?  Does it really still take 7 to 9 
months?  That seems crazy.


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[asterisk-users] Fwd: Your message to asterisk-users awaits moderator approval

2021-01-25 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere 


A 40Kb limit seems a bit draconian these days.  I simply attached a 
small pic to illustrate a point.  May I vote to up the limit?  100K?


Cheers,

Jeff LaCoursiere
StratusTalk, Inc.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Get a SHAKEN Identity Token (Alexander Perkins)

2021-01-25 Thread Steve Edwards 

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

So how does this guy get around it?  It sounds to me like he is offering 
to sign calls for whoever, which IMO totally defeats the purpose.


IIRC, back when he first started hawking his solution, he accepted 
everything. Numbers from Vitelity, my old out of service copper number, 
555-555-.


I'm all for the discussion, but can you start a new thread so we don't 
keep associating the innocent party (the OP) with this spammer.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Get a SHAKEN Identity Token (Alexander Perkins)

2021-01-25 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere 


Thanks Joshua, that was warranted IMO. I have to admit I am curious 
about his solution, though, and maybe we can turn this into a discussion 
about how we are handling STIR/SHAKEN collectively.


Our biggest issue is the fact that we use (our own) LCR to choose 
outbound routes for calls in real-time.  An outbound call could end up 
on any of several upstream providers, not necessarily the one that 
"owns" the DID that is making the outbound call.  Because of this we 
cannot rely on our upstreams to be the originating carriers - they won't 
be able to sign for calls from DID numbers they have no record of. We 
aren't alone in this, and Bandwidth.com is making noise about this issue 
and the "forward" problem, where we bounce a call to another number, and 
the original token info is lost.  I'm pretty sure this lands us in the 
"need to be an originating provider and generate crypt tokens".  I'm 
only just beginning diving into what that entails.


So how does this guy get around it?  It sounds to me like he is offering 
to sign calls for whoever, which IMO totally defeats the purpose.  So if 
I am some spammer and find my calls are rejected, I can just get him to 
sign them for me?  If I were him I would get a bunch of lawyers ready 
for when he becomes responsible for what they end up doing.  Isn't that 
the whole idea?


Cheers,

Jeff LaCoursiere
StratusTalk, Inc.

On 1/25/21 7:44 AM, Joshua C. Colp wrote:
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 6:50 PM Steve Edwards 
mailto:asterisk@sedwards.com>> wrote:


On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, Saint Michael wrote:

> Please look at this
> https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-28924
> I have a solution that works for any version of Asterisk, if
interested contact me at venefax at the Google mail service.

"I have a commercial solution that works for any version of
Asterisk, if
interested contact me at venefax at the Google mail service."

Fixed. If you're going to post a commercial solution on a
non-commercial
forum, at least be up front about it.


Greetings all,

Just so everyone is aware I previously gave a final warning on 
commercial solicitation on the asterisk-users mailing list to this 
individual[1]. As they've continued to do so I've removed them from 
the mailing list. You are free to communicate with them directly.


Cheers,

[1] 
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2020-July/295208.html


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Re: [asterisk-users] Get a SHAKEN Identity Token (Alexander Perkins)

2021-01-25 Thread Joshua C. Colp 
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 6:50 PM Steve Edwards 
wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, Saint Michael wrote:
>
> > Please look at this
> > https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-28924
> > I have a solution that works for any version of Asterisk, if interested
> contact me at venefax at the Google mail service.
>
> "I have a commercial solution that works for any version of Asterisk, if
> interested contact me at venefax at the Google mail service."
>
> Fixed. If you're going to post a commercial solution on a non-commercial
> forum, at least be up front about it.
>

Greetings all,

Just so everyone is aware I previously gave a final warning on commercial
solicitation on the asterisk-users mailing list to this individual[1]. As
they've continued to do so I've removed them from the mailing list. You are
free to communicate with them directly.

Cheers,

[1] http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2020-July/295208.html

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