Re: [asterisk-users] VoIP over satellite internet

2009-05-08 Thread Don E. Wisdom
I work on the salmon river in Idaho as a computer/radio tech.
All of the satellite isp's do not have the upstream capability.
Skype barely works. (you have to try upwards of 20 times for it to work)
If I have to make phone calls when I am there I always use the SSB
Radiophone or satellite phone because it is far far far more reliable and
doesn't irritate the living hell out of the person your calling.
I have tried 2-3 different VoIP providers  all have the exact same result.
The other side only hears a few pieces of word or nothing at all and hangs
up.
I have tried this on Starband (360  480 modems)  wild blue
Starband also has outages during the day where you cant see their satellite.
Most of the satellite ISP's also have rolling bandwith caps.  (Starbands is
1gig down  300megs up in a 7 day period for the plans I deal with)
Overall I think its a bad idea.  It most likely will not work.

--Don



On 5/8/09 10:56 PM, Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com wrote:

 If people don't mind taking turns talking, it will work.  It's just going
 to be like talking on a CB.  Reminds me of talking to my grandparents in the
 Europe as a child in the early 80's.
 
 Frank
 
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 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Eric Fort
 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:30 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] VoIP over satellite internet
 
 Could those on the list who have used or tried to use VoIP over a
 satellite internet connection comment on how well it works or if it
 even works at all in a reliable way.  What is the effect of latency on
 the VoIP path and how much is generally tolerable?  routing via
 satellite adds about a quarter second of latency to the path.  Is that
 too much?
 
 Eric
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Credit Card processing machines

2009-02-17 Thread Don E. Wisdom
The ADT alarm going thru VoIP will create a life safety issue.  Hope you 
planned for that..
--Don



On 2/17/09 6:31 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net wrote:




On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 17:11, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net wrote:

 Anyone have much luck with these on ATA's?  I have a few sites that use
 them succesfully with multi-port Audiocodes boxes, but just connected ten
 machines to Linksys 2102s and they are very flaky.  Using u-law on a 100Mb
 switched network that is barely utilized, then out a T1 on a Sangoma card.

 Perhaps there is some tuning on the Linksys or the credit card machine
 itself?  Going to look into reducing the baud rate on the machines, but
 sadly the bank has them password protected and wants to charge a
 reprogramming fee :(

 They make credit card terminals with Ethernet -- use that instead.


The client's processor charges 7c/transaction over IP (plus normal
charges), so they are quite keen to keep it working the way it was before
I replaced their PBX ;)

As a followup, *99 prepended on any Linksys ATA does indeed make a
difference in modem reliability.  Both their CCs and their ADT alarm
devices now function reliably.  I also reduced the CC baud rate to 300
baud (!), and it is rock solid now!

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] Credit Card processing machines

2009-02-17 Thread Don E. Wisdom
National fire protection association
They write the fire codes.
http://www.nfpa.org




On 2/17/09 1:28 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net wrote:




On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jonn Taylor wrote:

 If you are in the US, ANY life safety system has to be connected to a
 dedicated copper POTS line. VOIP is NOT ok to use for this. It is in the
 NFPA.


What is the NFPA?  Do analog extensions in traditional PBXes count?

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] life safety system and VOIP

2009-02-17 Thread Don E. Wisdom



On 2/17/09 2:05 PM, Jon Pounder j...@inline.net wrote:

Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 What do you suppose we have as liability if we are asked to install such
 systems?  Is it the responsibility of the business owner that orders the
 system to meet all applicable codes?  If (god forbid) someone was hurt in
 such a situation and the alarm didn't get passed because of being
 delivered by VoIP for whatever reason, does the system installer have any
 liability?


well here's a question - which is more reliable ?
- a single copper line dialed on demand when there is a problem
- voip or other internet technology, using internet connections on more
than one media (say phone and cable), voip connected to multiple servers
in a failover configuration.

its not uncommon for even a house to have multiple internet connections,
but how many buildings have phone lines that connect back to different
CO's and fail over ?

The best bet if you really care about what you are trying to protect is
make sure the message can get out as many ways as possible, whether it
be phone, voip, network, cellmodem, etc. Forget what regulations
require, no one says you can't go further than the minimum if you want.

In a REAL emergency internet/cell is more likely to fail than the phone 
companys pots network.
Cable/DSLAM etc only have about 4 hours of battery power.  The CO has a entire 
battery room which will last a whole lot longer.  Not to mention that it may 
stay up longer than your VoIP network.  You also have to take into account 
everything between you the CO or cable company.  If just ONE thing fails you 
loose voip.  Copper is a lot more forgiving  has failover modes versus the 
phone co's ATM network or the cable companies network (or lack there of)

--Don







 j

 On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jason Aarons (US) wrote:


 http://www.iccsafe.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001650
 ;p=1


 I can't see the Dept Transportation running copper to all the motorist
 aid boxes along the highway.  I thought most of your alarm panels have
 moved to GSM/CDMA backup communications.  I'd like to see a fire
 marshall not give a permit for having a VoIP ATA or Vonage.


 http://www.iccsafe.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001650
 ;p=1

 It's permitted in Chapter 8 2002  2007 Alternative Methods of
 Communication and these still have supervision in accordance with Chap
 4 and it's sub-section.

 8.5.2.2* Alternate Methods.
 8.5.4 Other Transmission Technologies.

 8.6.2.2* Alternate Methods.
 8.6.4 Other Transmission Technologies.

 There is nothing specific with regards to voice over internet protocal
 and leaves room to add new technology proposals with requirements in
 future editions according to A8.5.2.2. or A8.6.2.2 respectively.


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 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:28 PM
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 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Credit Card processing machines



 On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jonn Taylor wrote:


 If you are in the US, ANY life safety system has to be connected to a
 dedicated copper POTS line. VOIP is NOT ok to use for this. It is in

 the

 NFPA.


 What is the NFPA?  Do analog extensions in traditional PBXes count?

 j

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[asterisk-users] Asterisk Pix firewalls

2007-04-24 Thread Don E. Wisdom
Hi,
I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will elaborate on my 
question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to allow sip 
traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The pix is where all my 
servers are colocated and i will need to connect thru it from softphones / 
hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need help setting up the pix 
for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks
--Don
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk PiX devices

2007-04-20 Thread Don E. Wisdom
Hi All,

Im just getting started in the asterisk world and im wondering if anyone
can point me in the right direction towards getting asterisk working
from my house to my asterisk server in my colocation facility.

Thanks

--Don

 

 

 

 

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[asterisk-users] FW: Asterisk PiX devices

2007-04-20 Thread Don E. Wisdom
I forgot to add the hardware.   Im using Gentoo Linux  a Pix 515 

Thanks

--Don

 

 



From: Don E. Wisdom 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:59 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Asterisk  PiX devices

 

Hi All,

Im just getting started in the asterisk world and im wondering if anyone
can point me in the right direction towards getting asterisk working
from my house to my asterisk server in my colocation facility.

Thanks

--Don

 

 

 

 

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RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk PiX devices

2007-04-20 Thread Don E. Wisdom
Sorry I should clarify.  I need to pass sip traffic thru the pix to the
asterisk server.  (from sip phones at my house and wherever else I might
be) The pix has 7.2.2 os
--Don




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Mendoza
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk  PiX devices

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+-+dual+servers

Don E. Wisdom wrote:

 Hi All,

 Im just getting started in the asterisk world and im wondering if 
 anyone can point me in the right direction towards getting asterisk 
 working from my house to my asterisk server in my colocation facility.

 Thanks

 --Don

  


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