Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk 11.7.0: Delayed audio

2014-01-17 Thread Gerard Saraber
I wanted to chime in on this one, I posted a similar problem a while
back under the heading Delay before audio starts on 2/26/2013

My solution to fix this problem was to adjust my dialplan by inserting
an Answer(); 
So I don't think it necessarily has something to do with the strictrtp
setting.

-Gerard

On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 15:01 -0600, Matthew Jordan wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:45 AM, gm1 g...@curtissystemssoftware.com wrote:
  On connection to an incoming call via PSTN where
  asterisk [11.7.0] is Dialing an internal extension
  on answering the call there is about 6-7 seconds before
  audio is heard on either side.
 
 
  When looking at the CLI traces when I answer the incoming call that asterisk
  extensions were dialing, I see immediately upon answering
 0xhexnumber -- Probation passed - setting RTP source address to
  192.168.1.11:portnumber
  then not until about 6 seconds later I see this
 0xhexnumber -- Probation passed - setting RTP source address to
  192.168.1.11:diffportnumber
  and immediately hear audio
 
  what appears to be an issue is that the RTP link(audio) setup is delayed.
 
 
  Anyone have suggestions on how to fix this issue?
 
 
 If the RTP source address/port is changing, then Asterisk is receiving
 RTP packets from two different sources and is waiting for one of them
 to stabilize before it picks the actual source of the media stream.
 That's by design, as the locking in of the RTP source prevents a
 media injection attack.
 
 You can tweak how Asterisk does this using two settings in rtp.conf:
 
 ; Enable strict RTP protection. This will drop RTP packets that
 ; do not come from the source of the RTP stream. This option is
 ; enabled by default.
 ; strictrtp=yes
 
 ; Number of packets containing consecutive sequence values needed
 ; to change the RTP source socket address. This option only comes
 ; into play while using strictrtp=yes. Consider changing this value
 ; if rtp packets are dropped from one or both ends after a call is
 ; connected. This option is set to 4 by default.
 ; probation=8
 
 Matt
 
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 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
 Check us out at: http://digium.com  http://asterisk.org
 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Calls not going through

2006-02-23 Thread Gerard Saraber
I had a similar problem, basically asterisk would be sending dialled
digits before the telco was ready to pick them up, in my case some
numbers would work but most wouldn't and i'd get messages from the telco
like you described, the solution I'm using: put a delay before dialing
the number:
from my extensions.conf:
PAUSE=w
[trunklocal]
exten = _NXX,1,Dial(${TRUNK}/${PAUSE}${EXTEN},${TIMEOUT},W)
exten = _NXX,2,Congestion

similar for the long distance and international calls
basically dial a w before sending the actual number.

HTH

On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 07:33 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 When a call is placed out the Zap interface there is a long pause followed
 by an error message from the telco that the call can not be placed as
 dialed.
 
 We have a tdm2413e with 11 1FB (POTS) lines.  The number being dialed is a
 working local number, all dialed numbers get the same error.
 
 What should we be looking for ?
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Duane Pudenz
 Network Infrastructure Manager
 Shasta Industries
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx and SIP 7.5 Problems

2006-02-23 Thread Gerard Saraber
On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 14:36 -0600, Aaron Daniel wrote:
 We use mainly 7940's in our environment, I currently have about 60 of 
 them on my system, and the 7.5 firmware really screwed up our phone 
 network.  Not in the same way yours has, but there seem to be a lot of 
 glitches, even jumping from 7.4 to 7.5.  Have you tried the 7.4 firmware 
 to see if that does you any good?
 
For what its worth, 7.4 seems to work great in my setup, I stayed away
from 7.5, luckily I read about the glitching before upgrading.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx firmware

2006-02-22 Thread Gerard Saraber
Hi,
as far as I know, you can't actually buy the firmware, you have to get
the service contract, I talked to the guy at CDW who talked to his Cisco
guy, and they told me to buy a $92 service contract.

hope that helps..

On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 10:34 +0100, Tomislav ParĨina wrote:
 I have several Cisco 79xx phones (7905, 7920, 7940, 7960, 7970, ATA 186) and 
 I need to buy firmware for them. I have contacted http://www.cdw.com and 
 http://www.insight.com/ but they didn't respond.
 
 Can anybody tell me where can I buy SCCP and SIP firmware for my phones?
 
 BTW, I'm in Croatia (Hrvatska). I heard that location does matter.
 
 P.S.
 My local Cisco reseller wants to sell me technical support agreement which 
 cost around 75$ for every phone!
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple TDM400P's in a single machine

2006-02-21 Thread Gerard Saraber
3 TDM cards here, I had artifacts if any of the cards were sharing
interrupts, the trick was to add the cards 1 at the time to get them
each on their own irq. The system isn't in production yet, so I don't
know how well it'll hold up under load, so far so good in testing
though.
9xFXO 1xFXS 2xUnused

   CPU0   
  0:  592857335IO-APIC-edge  timer
  8:  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
  9:  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
177:   15559638   IO-APIC-level  eth0
185:3677271   IO-APIC-level  libata, NVidia CK8S
193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb1
201:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb2
209:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb3
217:  592717484   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
225:  592712578   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
233:  592725907   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
NMI:  40812 
LOC:  592769967 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 09:23 +, Sean Cook wrote:
 Same setup with two TDM400 (8FXO) running for over a year.
 
 On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 01:37 +0100, Thomas Artner wrote:
  Am Tuesday 21 February 2006 00:24 schrieb Marc Archer:
   Hi All,
  
  
  
   Can someone give me a definite answer as to wether or not you can
   reliably run multiple TDM400P's in the same machine?
  
   I need 4 x FXO and 4 x FXS to connect to both the PSTN and existing key
   system, but I have seen several threads suggesting that this is not a
   supported configuration
  
  
  
  i have two tdm400p's  (2xFXO, 6xFXS) in one desktop machine used as 
  asterisk 
  server for a small office (so the pc hardware is nothing special).
  This configuration is running since two weeks without any problems!
  
  
  
  
   Thanks,
  
  
  
   Marc.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] MOH from RCA jack?

2006-02-17 Thread Gerard Saraber
My * pc has an integrated soundcard, should be ok for this type of
application, I'd get an RCA-to-line jack cable (radioshack should have
those ;) I know * can play hold music from a streaming server, and I
know some streaming servers can stream from a line in, so the
combination of the two should do the trick I think.

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 07:42 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:
 Been around asterisk for two-plus years, but need a little input from the
 list on this topic.
 
 Have a potential client that wants to replace their old key system with *,
 but they want to integrate a commercial message service (they pay a monthly 
 fee to have special MOH messages generated) into their system. The messages 
 are essentially delivered to this customer via older generation audio 
 equipment that interfaces to their key system via a standard audio RCA jack.
 (We're reseaching other alternative deliver mechanisms such as mp3's, etc, 
 from the supplier, but have to assume for now that we need to inject MOH 
 audio into asterisk via this RCA jack.)
 
 Does anyone have a relatively high audio quanlity method of interfacing 
 such an external audio device into asterisk in a reliable way via an
 RCA jack?
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] MOH from RCA jack?

2006-02-17 Thread Gerard Saraber
Actually, with my suggestion, you would be using the soundcard with
whatever streaming mp3 server you choose to use, some kinda shoutcast
server I guess, so there shouldn't be any asterisk-soundcard
interaction..
* just takes its moh from the streaming server.

On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 09:18 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:
 Any idea how difficult it might be to get an integrated sound card to
 work properly with asterisk? (That seems to be the limiting factor or
 more time consuming part of doing this. Adapting the cables and audio
 levels is easy.)
 
 
  My * pc has an integrated soundcard, should be ok for this type of
  application, I'd get an RCA-to-line jack cable (radioshack should have
  those ;) I know * can play hold music from a streaming server, and I
  know some streaming servers can stream from a line in, so the
  combination of the two should do the trick I think.
  
  On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 07:42 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:
   Been around asterisk for two-plus years, but need a little input from the
   list on this topic.
   
   Have a potential client that wants to replace their old key system with *,
   but they want to integrate a commercial message service (they pay a 
   monthly 
   fee to have special MOH messages generated) into their system. The 
   messages 
   are essentially delivered to this customer via older generation audio 
   equipment that interfaces to their key system via a standard audio RCA 
   jack.
   (We're reseaching other alternative deliver mechanisms such as mp3's, 
   etc, 
   from the supplier, but have to assume for now that we need to inject MOH 
   audio into asterisk via this RCA jack.)
   
   Does anyone have a relatively high audio quanlity method of interfacing 
   such an external audio device into asterisk in a reliable way via an
   RCA jack?
   
   
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A unique 'click to call' project - Could use some advice

2006-02-17 Thread Gerard Saraber
I'm using the telnet manager interface with the 'originate' command,
just a little perl script that connects and has asterisk dial the
selected number.
It rings the extension first, if they pick up, it'll dial the remote
number.
It's one of the showcase features of the new phonesystem for us :) and
it was surprisingly easy to implement.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts

2006-02-14 Thread Gerard Saraber
Interesting, I seem to have gotten more 'artifact' complaints after
switching to the svn trunk MG2 echo canceler, I just tested with the
echo canceler turned off completely, the artifacts are still there.
I haven't heard the loud buzzing sound since I stopped using the
aggressive canceler.
I've also tested with echocancel=256 per your suggestion to see if I can
reproduce it, the little blips are still there, just heard one after
being on hold for 3 min 30 secs.
but no more loud buzzing :)

I just heard a different artifact, the blip turned into a buzz and the
sound (hold music) coming in repeated itself about 3 times. sorta like
this: ...your call will be answered as *digital sounding
beep*quickl*quickl*quickly as possible

Next up I'm going to try a different mainboard with only one TDM card in
it. 

On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 10:40 +1100, Mike Pollitt wrote:
 Hi Gerard --
 
 I found that I get the really loud buzzing sound in the handset earpiece
 when I set echocancel=256 instead of echocancel=yes (the default = 128
 taps). 
 
 It seemed to occur irrespective of the actual echo canceller chosen.
 
 Mike.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerard Saraber
 Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2006 2:04 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts
 
 So nobody heard these before? or did I do something stupid that anyone
 should know and nobody wanted to yell at me for it ;)
 
 On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:54 -0600, Gerard Saraber wrote:
  Hi,
  I've got some weird sound artifacts happening during calls, they're very
  hard to describe, so I have a 122kb recording:
  http://openprojects.rarcoa.com/~miztic/artifact.wav
  normally the artifacts are just short blips, not quite as long as the
  one above, but they sound the same.
  When using the aggressive echo suppressor, it seems like those artifacts
  cause a really loud buzzing sound to come out of the cisco phone, pretty
  much made using the aggressive canceler impossible to use, it's too bad
  because it worked the best out of all of them, mark3 works ok but still
  gives echos on at least 20% of the calls.
  
  I thought they might be caused by IRQ sharing, so I pulled one of the
  TDM400P cards out and made sure the remaining two were on their own IRQ,
  the artifacts were still there. I've also tried running a kernel with
  all the low-latency stuff turned on, and the same kernel with it all
  turned off (2.6.16-rc2) doesn't appear to make any difference either.
  I'm not sure what else to try, any input would be appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  Gerard Saraber
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  hardware:
  AMD64 1.8Ghz 512M ram
  MSI nforce3 socket 754 mainboard
  3 Digium TDM400P cards, 10 FXO + 2 FXS modules
  
  /proc/interrupts
 CPU0   
0:2784232IO-APIC-edge  timer
1:  8IO-APIC-edge  i8042
8:  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
9:  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
  177:  71552   IO-APIC-level  eth0
  185:   9412   IO-APIC-level  libata, NVidia CK8S
  193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb1
  201:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb2
  209:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb3
  217:5577811   IO-APIC-level  wctdm, wctdm
  225:2769262   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
  
  lspci (for completeness):
  
  02:07.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
  interface
  Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
  Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 217
  I/O ports at ac00 [size=256]
  Memory at fdeff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
  Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
  
  02:09.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
  interface
  Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
  Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 225
  I/O ports at a800 [size=256]
  Memory at fdefe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
  Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
  
  02:0a.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
  interface
  Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
  Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 217
  I/O ports at a400 [size=256]
  Memory at fdefd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
  Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
  
  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts [1 card = no artifacts]

2006-02-14 Thread Gerard Saraber
Ok, 
after 10+ minutes of mindnumbing hold music ;) no artifacts with only
one TDM card installed, going to test with two cards on their own IRQ in
a minute again..

Feb 14 09:59:31 [kernel] Zaptel Version: SVN-trunk-r941M Echo Canceller:
MG2
Feb 14 09:59:31 [kernel] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] enabled at IRQ
17
Feb 14 09:59:31 [kernel] GSI 21 sharing vector 0xD9 and IRQ 21
Feb 14 09:59:31 [kernel] ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:07.0[A] - Link
[APC2] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 217


   CPU0   
  0:1026246IO-APIC-edge  timer
  8:  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
  9:  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
177:  50426   IO-APIC-level  eth0
185:   6822   IO-APIC-level  libata, NVidia CK8S
193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb1
201:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb2
209:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb3
217:1012971   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
NMI:143 
LOC:1026004 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerard Saraber
 Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2006 2:04 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts
 
 So nobody heard these before? or did I do something stupid that anyone
 should know and nobody wanted to yell at me for it ;)
 
 On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:54 -0600, Gerard Saraber wrote:
  Hi,
  I've got some weird sound artifacts happening during calls, they're very
  hard to describe, so I have a 122kb recording:
  http://openprojects.rarcoa.com/~miztic/artifact.wav
  normally the artifacts are just short blips, not quite as long as the
  one above, but they sound the same.
  When using the aggressive echo suppressor, it seems like those artifacts
  cause a really loud buzzing sound to come out of the cisco phone, pretty
  much made using the aggressive canceler impossible to use, it's too bad
  because it worked the best out of all of them, mark3 works ok but still
  gives echos on at least 20% of the calls.
  
  I thought they might be caused by IRQ sharing, so I pulled one of the
  TDM400P cards out and made sure the remaining two were on their own IRQ,
  the artifacts were still there. I've also tried running a kernel with
  all the low-latency stuff turned on, and the same kernel with it all
  turned off (2.6.16-rc2) doesn't appear to make any difference either.
  I'm not sure what else to try, any input would be appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  Gerard Saraber
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  hardware:
  AMD64 1.8Ghz 512M ram
  MSI nforce3 socket 754 mainboard
  3 Digium TDM400P cards, 10 FXO + 2 FXS modules
  

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts [solved]

2006-02-14 Thread Gerard Saraber
Apparently I didn't do the first test correctly where I said I made sure
I had only two cards, each on their own IRQ and still got artifacts.
When I repeated the test today, with both cards on their own IRQ, I got
no artifacts at all, after shuffeling the cards around for a bit I was
able to get each of the 3 on their own IRQ, after 16 minutes of hold
music, still no artifacts, so its safe to say my problem was a shared
IRQ.. The only other two things that are different are that I switched
to the SVN trunk version of Zaptel and recompiled my kernel a few times.

My apologies to anyone who's time I wasted, thank you for looking..

Linux phonesys 2.6.16-rc2-mm1 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 8 11:09:28 CST 2006
x86_64 AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Zaptel Version: SVN-trunk-r941M
Echo Canceller: MG2

   CPU0   
  0:1183747IO-APIC-edge  timer
  8:  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
  9:  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
177:  56255   IO-APIC-level  eth0
185:   5382   IO-APIC-level  libata, NVidia CK8S
193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb1
201:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb2
209:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb3
217:1170531   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
225:1169188   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
233:1167705   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
NMI:195 
LOC:1183483 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?

2006-02-13 Thread Gerard Saraber
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 16:05 -0600, Matthew Fredrickson wrote:
 On Feb 10, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Gerard Saraber wrote:
 
  Found it, going to go test it right now :) thanks!
  So far reports have been positive on the echo, but its a slow day ;)
  We're using cisco 7960 phones, they're pricy, but they work great and
  sound good, if it wasn't for the echo issue, I would have been able to
  roll the whole setup out already.
  Actually that's not quite true, I still have to make the 7914 addon
  module work with the 7960 phone, but that's not a show stopper.
 
  Either way, so far big thumbs up for the MG2 echo can, and if any
  developers read this, feel free to add a compile flag to make it more
  cpu intensive ;) and do more canceling.
 
 
 Does latest MG2 behave better than KB1 on your analog lines?  I heard 
 in the past that in some cases (primarily with analog lines) that KB1 
 worked better.  Also, have you tried the echotraining=800  (in 
 zapata.conf) tweak as well?
 
 ---
 Matthew Fredrickson

In my case, MG2 blows KB1 away, the trunk version is a huge improvement,
in the past, echotraining=some number was always worse compared to
echotraining=yes so I didn't change it. I'll definately try that if I
get any echo complaints, so far, so good though.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts

2006-02-10 Thread Gerard Saraber
So nobody heard these before? or did I do something stupid that anyone
should know and nobody wanted to yell at me for it ;)

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:54 -0600, Gerard Saraber wrote:
 Hi,
 I've got some weird sound artifacts happening during calls, they're very
 hard to describe, so I have a 122kb recording:
 http://openprojects.rarcoa.com/~miztic/artifact.wav
 normally the artifacts are just short blips, not quite as long as the
 one above, but they sound the same.
 When using the aggressive echo suppressor, it seems like those artifacts
 cause a really loud buzzing sound to come out of the cisco phone, pretty
 much made using the aggressive canceler impossible to use, it's too bad
 because it worked the best out of all of them, mark3 works ok but still
 gives echos on at least 20% of the calls.
 
 I thought they might be caused by IRQ sharing, so I pulled one of the
 TDM400P cards out and made sure the remaining two were on their own IRQ,
 the artifacts were still there. I've also tried running a kernel with
 all the low-latency stuff turned on, and the same kernel with it all
 turned off (2.6.16-rc2) doesn't appear to make any difference either.
 I'm not sure what else to try, any input would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Gerard Saraber
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 hardware:
 AMD64 1.8Ghz 512M ram
 MSI nforce3 socket 754 mainboard
 3 Digium TDM400P cards, 10 FXO + 2 FXS modules
 
 /proc/interrupts
CPU0   
   0:2784232IO-APIC-edge  timer
   1:  8IO-APIC-edge  i8042
   8:  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
   9:  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
 177:  71552   IO-APIC-level  eth0
 185:   9412   IO-APIC-level  libata, NVidia CK8S
 193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb1
 201:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb2
 209:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb3
 217:5577811   IO-APIC-level  wctdm, wctdm
 225:2769262   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
 
 lspci (for completeness):
 
 02:07.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
 interface
 Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 217
 I/O ports at ac00 [size=256]
 Memory at fdeff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
 
 02:09.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
 interface
 Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 225
 I/O ports at a800 [size=256]
 Memory at fdefe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
 
 02:0a.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
 interface
 Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 217
 I/O ports at a400 [size=256]
 Memory at fdefd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?

2006-02-10 Thread Gerard Saraber
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 11:01 -0600, Clint Sharp wrote:
 Gerard Saraber wrote:
 
 Thanks! testing it now, on my test calls it appears to start out with
 less echo then the Mark3 canceler, but it trains slower, seems like it
 took a long time for the echo to completely disappear, the real test
 will be seeing what the people at my company have to say.
 
 Feb  9 14:47:51 [kernel] Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major
 196
 Feb  9 14:47:51 [kernel] Zaptel Version: SVN-trunk-r934M Echo Canceller:
 MG2
 
   
 
 I've had really good luck with the echocan preload patch that was posted 
 on the asterisk dev list a while back as well, and I've been 
 recommending it to people as well.  This has really helped minimize the 
 echo problems to a minimal level, although I don't know about 
 recommending this system to our customers.  I still think a lot of my 
 audio quality problems are being caused by my phones (not echo, but 
 clicks and pops and various overmodulation problems).  We're getting 
 there, but I'm still nervous with trying to sell an * system to someone 
 who is used to the quality of a traditional PBX or key system.
 
 Clint

Found it, going to go test it right now :) thanks!
So far reports have been positive on the echo, but its a slow day ;) 
We're using cisco 7960 phones, they're pricy, but they work great and
sound good, if it wasn't for the echo issue, I would have been able to
roll the whole setup out already. 
Actually that's not quite true, I still have to make the 7914 addon
module work with the 7960 phone, but that's not a show stopper.

Either way, so far big thumbs up for the MG2 echo can, and if any
developers read this, feel free to add a compile flag to make it more
cpu intensive ;) and do more canceling.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts

2006-02-10 Thread Gerard Saraber
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 11:20 -0800, Anthony Rodgers wrote:
 Your output looks like you have 3 cards, two of which are sharing 
 interrupts - or am I missing something?
 

That is correct, the thing is, I pulled one of the cards out (as stated
in my first email), and made sure each was on their own IRQ, and I
*still* got the same artifacts, so I'm not sure that IRQ sharing is the
problem.

   /proc/interrupts
  CPU0  
 0:2784232IO-APIC-edge  timer
 1:  8IO-APIC-edge  i8042
 8:  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
 9:  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
   177:  71552   IO-APIC-level  eth0
   185:   9412   IO-APIC-level  libata, NVidia CK8S
   193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb1
   201:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb2
   209:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb3
   217:5577811   IO-APIC-level  wctdm, wctdm
   225:2769262   IO-APIC-level  wctdm
  

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?

2006-02-09 Thread Gerard Saraber
I appreciate the input, but after doing a little research on that card,
it looks like I'll still need the channel bank, I think with some
carefull ebaying, I should be able to do the hardware canceling for
about $1000 less then what i saw the 104d card for.
not to mention it seems total overkill, I've got a wimpy 10 pstn phone
lines, a quad T1 card seems a little excessive to me. If there was a
single T1 with the G.168 echo canceler card for say $800, I'd be all
over that (still researching).

I've got all this extra cpu power, and nothing to use it on ;)
in the mean time, I'll put the 104d card on the list of possibilities,

Thanks,
Gerard Saraber
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On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 17:26 -0800, Canuck15 wrote:
 Gerard,
 
 Just get yourself a Sangoma card with hardware echo can and be done with it.
 It is worth every penny just for the headaches it will save you.  It's a
 better solution for most situations compared to a channel bank.  Cheaper,
 simpler and works just as good IMHO.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gerard Saraber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 12:20 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?
 
 Thanks for the quick reply :)
 It happens when we call a lot of different people, and obviously doesn't
 happen with our old analog phone system, so even if its caused by someone
 else, *we* still have to fix it.
 we're kind of weighing our options, I'm hoping to take care of this with
 some fancy software, but if not we'll be going the hardware canceller route.
 
 Thanks,
 Gerard Saraber
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 11:45 -0800, Michael Collins wrote:
  Gerard,
  
  I'll bet your side is working great for echo cancellation.  It sounds 
  like the equipment at the other end of the call might need some help.
  You know the old rule if you and I are talking on the phone: If I hear 
  echo, you've got a problem; if you hear echo, I've got a problem.  If 
  only all echo problems were so easy to diagnose!  In any case, is it 
  possible that some of the echo you're hearing is being caused by poor 
  echo handling on the other end of the line?
  
  Just a thought.
  
  -MC
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerard 
  Saraber
  Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:03 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?
  
  Hi,
  I've had some decent luck with the mark3 echo canceller from the 
  zaptel driver, echos on about 20% of the calls, people I've called say 
  I sound great now, but our side hears echos.
  I was wondering if there was any way to tweak the current software 
  cancelers into using more CPU (and hopefully doing a better job, close 
  to a hardware canceler), I only have 10 lines, and a single call takes 
  0.5% cpu, I would have no problem if it went up to 5-10% if they would 
  work better.
  Or should I just give up now and buy the channel bank, tellabs 
  hardware echo canceler and a T1 pci card? (hope TDM400P cards have 
  decent resale value ;)
  
 --
 Regards,
 Gerard Saraber
 Network Admin, Rarcoa, Inc.
 (630) 654-2580 x11
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ztdummy on gentoo 2005.1

2006-02-09 Thread Gerard Saraber
Invalid module format usually means that the module you're trying to
load was not compiled with the same parameters as the kernel you're
trying to load it into, make sure your /usr/src/linux symlink points to
the kernel you are actually running, /var/log/messages etc. will usually
have more specific information on why the module format is 'wrong' .

I would suggest after checking the /usr/src/linux symlink, to recompile
the kernel, the ztdummy module and booting into the newly compiled
kernel. its possible that all it takes is to recompile the module
though.

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On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 09:30 -0600, Miguel wrote:
 I changed the line with your sugestion but same result (after reboot):
 
 voip # lsmod
 Module  Size  Used by
 voip # modprobe ztdummy
 FATAL: Error inserting ztdummy 
 (/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/misc/ztdummy.o): Invalid module format
 FATAL: Error running install command for ztdummy
 voip mmiranda #
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?

2006-02-09 Thread Gerard Saraber
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:05 -0600, Matthew Fredrickson wrote:
 Yeah there is, upgrade to trunk and use the new echo canceller there 
 (MG2).  It's supposed to rock, at least from what I've heard.  All the 
 MEC cancellers are _OLD_.  At least switch to 1.2 and the KB1 echo 
 canceler before giving up.
 
 ---
 Matthew Fredrickson
 

Aha! good to know, I am running asterisk 1.2.4 and zaptel-1.2.3, should
I switch to CVS ? I've tried the MG2 canceler with the above versions,
each time I tried it, I had a constant echo, where with the mark3 it
went away after a second or two at the beginning of the call. (which I
can live with, but some of the calls are completely unusable due to
continuous or returning echos)
I'll go play with the mg2 and kb1 again and see what happens

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?

2006-02-09 Thread Gerard Saraber
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 14:16 -0600, Matthew Fredrickson wrote:
 Try MG2 with trunk and KB1 with 1.2.  KB1 is supposed to be fairly 
 reliable in 1.2, and MG2 in trunk has a good possibility of 
 outperforming KB1 from 1.2.
 
 Matthew Fredrickson

Thanks! testing it now, on my test calls it appears to start out with
less echo then the Mark3 canceler, but it trains slower, seems like it
took a long time for the echo to completely disappear, the real test
will be seeing what the people at my company have to say.

Feb  9 14:47:51 [kernel] Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major
196
Feb  9 14:47:51 [kernel] Zaptel Version: SVN-trunk-r934M Echo Canceller:
MG2


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[Asterisk-Users] odd 'digital' sound artifacts

2006-02-08 Thread Gerard Saraber
Hi,
I've got some weird sound artifacts happening during calls, they're very
hard to describe, so I have a 122kb recording:
http://openprojects.rarcoa.com/~miztic/artifact.wav
normally the artifacts are just short blips, not quite as long as the
one above, but they sound the same.
When using the aggressive echo suppressor, it seems like those artifacts
cause a really loud buzzing sound to come out of the cisco phone, pretty
much made using the aggressive canceler impossible to use, it's too bad
because it worked the best out of all of them, mark3 works ok but still
gives echos on at least 20% of the calls.

I thought they might be caused by IRQ sharing, so I pulled one of the
TDM400P cards out and made sure the remaining two were on their own IRQ,
the artifacts were still there. I've also tried running a kernel with
all the low-latency stuff turned on, and the same kernel with it all
turned off (2.6.16-rc2) doesn't appear to make any difference either.
I'm not sure what else to try, any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Gerard Saraber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

hardware:
AMD64 1.8Ghz 512M ram
MSI nforce3 socket 754 mainboard
3 Digium TDM400P cards, 10 FXO + 2 FXS modules

/proc/interrupts
   CPU0   
  0:2784232IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:  8IO-APIC-edge  i8042
  8:  0IO-APIC-edge  rtc
  9:  0   IO-APIC-level  acpi
177:  71552   IO-APIC-level  eth0
185:   9412   IO-APIC-level  libata, NVidia CK8S
193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb1
201:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb2
209:  0   IO-APIC-level  ohci_hcd:usb3
217:5577811   IO-APIC-level  wctdm, wctdm
225:2769262   IO-APIC-level  wctdm

lspci (for completeness):

02:07.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
interface
Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 217
I/O ports at ac00 [size=256]
Memory at fdeff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

02:09.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
interface
Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 225
I/O ports at a800 [size=256]
Memory at fdefe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

02:0a.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN
interface
Subsystem: Unknown device b119:0001
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 217
I/O ports at a400 [size=256]
Memory at fdefd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2


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[Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?

2006-02-08 Thread Gerard Saraber
Hi,
I've had some decent luck with the mark3 echo canceller from the zaptel
driver, echos on about 20% of the calls, people I've called say I sound
great now, but our side hears echos.
I was wondering if there was any way to tweak the current software
cancelers into using more CPU (and hopefully doing a better job, close
to a hardware canceler), I only have 10 lines, and a single call takes
0.5% cpu, I would have no problem if it went up to 5-10% if they would
work better.
Or should I just give up now and buy the channel bank, tellabs hardware
echo canceler and a T1 pci card? (hope TDM400P cards have decent resale
value ;)

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?

2006-02-08 Thread Gerard Saraber
Thanks for the quick reply :)
It happens when we call a lot of different people, and obviously doesn't
happen with our old analog phone system, so even if its caused by
someone else, *we* still have to fix it.
we're kind of weighing our options, I'm hoping to take care of this with
some fancy software, but if not we'll be going the hardware canceller
route.

Thanks,
Gerard Saraber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 11:45 -0800, Michael Collins wrote:
 Gerard,
 
 I'll bet your side is working great for echo cancellation.  It sounds
 like the equipment at the other end of the call might need some help.
 You know the old rule if you and I are talking on the phone: If I hear
 echo, you've got a problem; if you hear echo, I've got a problem.  If
 only all echo problems were so easy to diagnose!  In any case, is it
 possible that some of the echo you're hearing is being caused by poor
 echo handling on the other end of the line?
 
 Just a thought.
 
 -MC
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerard
 Saraber
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:03 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] more cpu intensive echo cancellers ?
 
 Hi,
 I've had some decent luck with the mark3 echo canceller from the zaptel
 driver, echos on about 20% of the calls, people I've called say I sound
 great now, but our side hears echos.
 I was wondering if there was any way to tweak the current software
 cancelers into using more CPU (and hopefully doing a better job, close
 to a hardware canceler), I only have 10 lines, and a single call takes
 0.5% cpu, I would have no problem if it went up to 5-10% if they would
 work better.
 Or should I just give up now and buy the channel bank, tellabs hardware
 echo canceler and a T1 pci card? (hope TDM400P cards have decent resale
 value ;)
 
-- 
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Gerard Saraber
Network Admin, Rarcoa, Inc.
(630) 654-2580 x11
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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