Re: [asterisk-users] Question about PCI Slots for DIGIUMs Boards

2008-03-29 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Sat, 29 Mar 2008, Al Baker wrote:

 Detailed specs for the types of PCI slots on the system were posted 
 each and every time I posted int the line

Actually, your description wasn't 100% clear at all.

 _PCI Express_*: _two x8 slots*_, _two x8 low profile slots*_; *_PCI-X: 
 64-bit/100MHz_* 

1)  This description seems to IMPLY that there are 5 slots total.  Do you
know if this is in fact correct?  It implies there are 2 PCI-E x8 slots, 2
PCI-E x8 low profile slots, and 1 PCI-X slot.  I wouldn't rely on that
however without talking to the vendor.

2) The first PCI Express: heading would normally imply that the slots
listed afterwards are ALL PCI Express slots, however PCI-X is not PCI
Express, so the vendor's description is confusing and misleading.

3) All these damn *'s you keep inserting, are those all done by you, or
are some of them from the web page description?  Most of the time when
something has a * by it that means it's conditional on a footnote that
appears at the bottom of the section or page.  Are there footnotes we need
to know about to clarify this?

4) Is this a rackmount server or a tower case?  If rackmount, is it a 1u
server or a 2u server or a 4u server?  Just because the motherboard has 5
slots doesn't mean the case it is installed in will support 5 cards.  A 1u
case rarely supports more than 1 or 2 cards, and always requires a riser
card.  A 2u server rarely supports more than 2 cards unless they are
low-profile.  A 4u server might allow 5 cards, IF the case is designed
with 5 slot openings in the back.

5) Are all the card slots open and available to you at time of shipping?
Many options a customer orders with a server, such as a RAID controller or
additional network ports will fill one or more of the available slots.
You need to be sure all the slots you need are available to you when you
get the server.

As for types of cards.  As others have already said, PCI-X is not
PCI-Express and they are not interchangeable.

A PCI-Express card slot can accomodate any PCI-Express card with the same
number of lanes or less.  So an x8 slot (8 lanes) will support an x1, x2,
x4, or x8 card, but not an x16 card.  I believe the Digium PCI Express
cards are only x1 (one lane) so they should fit in any PCI Express slot,
but you should check with Digium's web site to be 100% sure the card you
are buying is a x1 card.

Unless you specifically buy a low-pofile card, a normal PCI or PCI Express
Card will NOT fit in a low-profile slot.  So assuming Digium's cards are
full height, you only have 3 possible options.  The 2 PCI Express full
height slots, and the 1 PCI-X slot, assuming all those slots are open and
will be available with the case you're using.

I would NOT base my purchasing decision on that vague description given by
the vendor that you have listed in your messages.  I would contact the
vendor and clarify the total number of slots, types of slots, whether they
are open or not, and whether the case will support them all.

Many vendors will use a motherboard with 3-5 slots on the board, in a 1u
rackmount case that only supports 1 physical card.

One final word of warning...  don't try to stick too many cards in one box
without double checking with someone who can tell you if it will handle
that capacity or not.  There were a lot of problems with early Digium
4-port T1 cards where you couldn't use more than 1 or 2 cards at a time
because of the interrupts.  The newer cards, especially PCI Express, may
not have that problem anymore... but I would double check before
proceeding with more than 2 cards in one box.

Can anyone out there clarify (for me as well) whether you can put, say, 4
or 5 4-port T1 cards in a single box now and have it work ok?  Assuming
enough RAM and a fast enough CPU of course.

-- Nick



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Re: [asterisk-users] Had it with Dell Garbage

2008-02-26 Thread Nick Seraphin


I haven't bought from them recently, but I also have bought many servers
and desktop systems from J  N.  I have at least 3 servers they built that
are over 8 years old and still running in production.  I've bought like 8
servers, and a half-dozen desktop systems from them since around 1996 or
1997.  Again, I can't speak for anything recently, but they have been a
legitimate company, reliable, and honest to deal with.  I used to deal
directly with the owner (Jerry Jacobsen) -- now they have a lot more
employees so you're likely better off just dealing with whoever answers
the phone because they're a lot bigger now.  They're definitely not a
fly-by-night company... it should be safe for you to give them a try if
you like what they offer.

Lately I buy Supermicro 1U servers and add my own cpu/ram/hd.  I had a
batch of bad motherboards, but other than that I like the quality so far.
One word of warning... their warranty is stupid.  The warranty starts the
day they sell the product to the reseller/warehouse company... NOT to the
end user.  So if you buy from Tech Data or Newegg and it sits on the shelf
in their warehouse for a month, you only get an 11 month warranty because
the clock starts ticking when it leaves Supermicro's plant.  They consider
Tech Data or Newegg to be their customer, not you.

If it sits in the warehouse for a year, then you get NO WARRANTY.

Based on my dealings with JN however, I think they would honor the full
warranty even if Supermicro doesn't, if you buy it from JN.  They're
definitely not perfect (in the early days they were slow to ship, but that
seems to be better now...  and last time I requested a custom quote they
never got back to me) but they won't cheat you and they stand behind what
they sell.  I'd deal with them again if I felt they had what I needed at
the right price (or even reasonably close).

-- Nick


On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, John covici wrote:

 I had a server built for me by J and N Computer Services
 http://www.jncs.com which is using a Super Micro c2sbe MB which I
 think has what you need plus 4 PCI-32 slots!  Its a nice MB and I have
 an e8400 cpu in it.
 
 
 
 on Tuesday 02/26/2008 Matt([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
   I've had it with Dell server garbage.They seem to change RAID
   controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers don't work
   with Linux, unless you load a new driver.They sell servers with a PCI-e
   slot in them, but then you get it and find out the RAID controller is using
   the PCI-e slot!   Their sales folks are dumber than rocks, and they change
   them more often than I change underwear.
   [end rant].
   
   Can anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you have used with
   Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or RAID-5 and 
 has
   room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?
   I#39;ve had it with Dell server garbage.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; They seem to 
 change RAID controllers as much as I change socks, and then the controllers 
 don#39;t work with Linux, unless you load a new driver.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 
 They sell servers with a PCI-e slot in them, but then you get it and find out 
 the RAID controller is using the PCI-e slot!nbsp;nbsp; Their sales folks 
 are dumber than rocks, and they change them more often than I change 
 underwear.br
   [end rant].brbrCan anyone recommend an IBM or Gateway server that you 
 have used with Asterisk and are happy with, and which will support RAID-1 or 
 RAID-5 and has room for one or two PCI-express interface cards?br
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Re: [asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.8 breaks tor2 support on CentOS 5.1? (kernel panic)

2008-02-21 Thread Nick Seraphin


Thank you very much!!!

What was the one line fix?

Also, what file was the problem in?  Also, if you know the line number or
function it was in, that would be nice too.  I'd do a diff, but I assume
there has been other changes since 1.4.9 was released.

Thanks again!

-- Nick


On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:

 Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
 
  I've just located an E400P from our graveyard of old cards... if it
  works, I'll be able to solve this problem in the morning.
 
 This has been fixed in revision 3863 of the 1.4 branch; it's a one line
 fix that you should be able to easily apply to existing Zaptel source
 code, or you can wait for the next Zaptel release which should happen
 later today. Sorry for the breakage.
 
 -- 
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 Director of Software Technologies
 Digium, Inc. - The Genuine Asterisk Experience (TM)
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.8 breaks tor2 support on CentOS 5.1? (kernel panic)

2008-02-19 Thread Nick Seraphin


The system won't boot at all if the tor2.ko file exists.  Period.  It
doesn't matter what is in the startup scripts.  Even if I DELETE the
startup scripts, it still crashes until I go in with a rescue CD and
delete tor2.ko from the modules directory for the kernel.

It's a full kernel panic... no recovery...  I don't have any method to
save or copy/paste the error messages.

I tried 1.4.9 and it is broken too... same panic at same point.

Who do I need to report this to?  Technically I think my cards are out of
warranty... will Digium still accept a support call about this issue?

I need to make sure this gets fixed.

Thanks,

-- Nick


On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, James Finstrom wrote:

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 I would try make clean/make/make install.
 
 also add tor2 to the black list and remove it from any zaptel init stuff.
 
 Finally once your systems up (note asterisk wont be) try loading the
 module with insmod.
 
 If it panics this may give you a better opurtunity to catch the output
 then probably contact digium support and see if they know of any
 issues and send the dumps.
 
 Nick Seraphin wrote:
 
  Hi all...  I did some Google searches and didn't find any info on
  this so I'm posting it here... if this was recently discussed, I
  apologize for the duplication -- please point me to the appropriate
  thread.
 
  System Description:
 
  Supermicro SuperServer 5015M-MF w/ PDSMi Motherboard Intel Pentium
  4 2.8 Ghz CPU 2 GB DDR2 Memory
 
  Digium T400P 4 Port T1 Card
 
  CentOS 5.1 (Final) Kernel:  2.6.18-53.1.13.el5
 
  All yum updates applied.
 
  Zaptel 1.4.8 compiles with no errors or warnings.
 
  Problem:
 
  When I reboot the server, the machine crashes (hard down) with a
  kernel panic right as the console says Starting udev:.
 
  I go in with the rescue disk, delete the tor2.ko file, and it will
  boot fine.  I do a make install again with 1.4.8 and when
  rebooting the machine locks up again - kernel panic.
 
  The panic message has a lot of stuff that I don't understand, a lot
  of which scrolls off the screen, but I do notice it mentions the
  tor2 driver several times.
 
  It happens EVERY time I boot if the tor2.ko file exists, even if I
  turn off the zaptel service with chkconfig, and even if I delete
  all the zaptel files from /etc/sysconfig and the init.d and rc.d
  directories.
 
  I tried loading just ztdummy and deleting tor2.ko and it works
  fine, so it looks like it's specifically a problem with the tor2
  driver.
 
  I then tried loading the latest 1.2 zaptel release version, and
  that works fine - no errors, no crashes, and everything is perfect.
  (with tor2)
 
  So then I tried loading zaptel 1.4.7 and it works fine too.  No
  errors, no crashes, works great.  (with tor2)
 
  So something was broken between 1.4.7 and 1.4.8 that specifically
  affects the tor2 driver and the T400P card.
 
  What should I do?  I obviously can't fix the problem myself, so is
  there a fix coming?  Is this a known issue?  Will 1.4.9 fix it when
  it comes out?
 
  Thanks,
 
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[asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.8 breaks tor2 support on CentOS 5.1? (kernel panic)

2008-02-17 Thread Nick Seraphin


Hi all...  I did some Google searches and didn't find any info on this so
I'm posting it here... if this was recently discussed, I apologize for the
duplication -- please point me to the appropriate thread.

System Description:

Supermicro SuperServer 5015M-MF w/ PDSMi Motherboard
Intel Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz CPU
2 GB DDR2 Memory

Digium T400P 4 Port T1 Card

CentOS 5.1 (Final)
Kernel:  2.6.18-53.1.13.el5

All yum updates applied.

Zaptel 1.4.8 compiles with no errors or warnings.

Problem:

When I reboot the server, the machine crashes (hard down) with a
kernel panic right as the console says Starting udev:.

I go in with the rescue disk, delete the tor2.ko file, and it will
boot fine.  I do a make install again with 1.4.8 and when rebooting the
machine locks up again - kernel panic.

The panic message has a lot of stuff that I don't understand, a lot of
which scrolls off the screen, but I do notice it mentions the tor2
driver several times.

It happens EVERY time I boot if the tor2.ko file exists, even if I turn
off the zaptel service with chkconfig, and even if I delete all the zaptel
files from /etc/sysconfig and the init.d and rc.d directories.

I tried loading just ztdummy and deleting tor2.ko and it works fine, so
it looks like it's specifically a problem with the tor2 driver.

I then tried loading the latest 1.2 zaptel release version, and that works
fine - no errors, no crashes, and everything is perfect.  (with tor2)

So then I tried loading zaptel 1.4.7 and it works fine too.  No errors, no
crashes, works great.  (with tor2)

So something was broken between 1.4.7 and 1.4.8 that specifically affects
the tor2 driver and the T400P card.

What should I do?  I obviously can't fix the problem myself, so is there a
fix coming?  Is this a known issue?  Will 1.4.9 fix it when it comes out?

Thanks,

-- Nick Seraphin




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[asterisk-users] Door Intercom? (was: Re: Phone with public address functionality)

2007-12-03 Thread Nick Seraphin


On a similar note...  has anyone ever seen a SIP-based door intercom unit?

Functionality I'm looking for is...  basically an outdoor rated weather
resistant speaker with 1 button and microphone, when the button is
pressed, it dials a specified SIP extension.  Likewise, from the Asterisk
box, someone can call a SIP extension and the call goes to the intercom
speaker so you can initiate a conversation with the person at the door if
they just rang the bell but didn't push the intercom button.

Preferably something with power over ethernet support.

Thanks,

-- Nick


On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Doug Meredith wrote:

 I have searched for this without much luck.  I want to be able to send
 public-address-like notices over VoIP phones.  The LinkSys SPA-941
 auto-answer support comes close to working, except that if you are
 currently in a call it places that call on hold without warning.  I'm
 willing to consider a more expensive phone to solve the problem if I
 have to.
 
  
 
 Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
  
 
 Doug
 
  
 
 


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Re: [asterisk-users] How to bridge two connected calls

2007-11-23 Thread Nick Seraphin


I spent several months trying to figure out something similar to this
myself a while back.  The solution I came up with finally really works
great, and I think it should work for you too.

Once the incoming caller is in the dialplan, issue a Dial() command using
both the m option and the M() option, in addition to any other options
you would normally be using for Dial().  The m option will play music on
hold while the Dial() command does it's thing.  The M() option will take
an argument in between the ()'s, and that argument should be a Macro that
you define in extensions.conf.  When the call connects to the on-call
operator via Dial(), execution will pass to that Macro, yet the original
caller is still on hold listening to music the whole time, unaware of what
is happening with your operator.  The Macro can basically ask whether the
operator is able to take the call or not, and you can even do really
advanced stuff like announce the caller ID to the operator, or other
call-identifying information, so they can decide if they need to take the
call or not.  When the Macro exits, have it set the variable MACRO_RESULT
depending on whether the operator is going to take the call or not.  If
you don't set MACRO_RESULT, or set it to , then the call will be bridged
and the 2 parties will be talking to eachother.  If the operator rejects
the call, then you can set MACRO_RESULT to
GOTO:context^exten^priority and it will transfer the original
incoming caller to that context/exten/priority after the Macro is done
executing.  There, you can either play a message to the original caller
and hang up, send them to voicemail, or try another operator - anything
you want really.

I also found you can run an AGI script inside the Macro and it still
works, so that makes it possible to do some really advanced call menu
structures with database lookups, etc.

The original incoming caller will hear nothing but music on hold the
entire time from when you first call Dial() until the Macro is finished
executing, which then means either the call is bridged, or the caller is
sent to yet another context due to rejection.

This type of routine typically is used for a call announce menu in a
find me/follow me scenario, and is very useful considering you don't know
if the recipient is going to answer, or their cell phon voicemail picks
up, or their 3 year old picks up the phone, etc.  You could even set it up
to require the operator to enter a PIN code before they can bridge the
call, so that the operator's 8 year old can't answer the call and confuse
the customer, etc.  Very very flexible stuff.

I think this will work for what you want to do.  Hope it helps...

-- Nick


On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Alberto Pastore wrote:

 Hi everybody.
 
 I am in the following scenario:
 
 1 Customer A calls an asterisk box over a Zap channel on
a toll free number during night time
 
 2 The incoming call enters an AGI script on the dialplan
 
 3 The AGI script plays back a welcome message, then
starts the music-on-hold stream
 
 4 The AGI script originates a calls to a
stand-by operator's cell phone (operator B)
 
 5 When the operator B answers the call, he is prompted
(via another AGI script in the dialplan)
to dial 1 to be recognized as human (the AMD()
function is too random to be useful)
 
 6 After being recognized as human, Customer A must
be bridged to Operator B
 
 Everything is ok from 1 to 5, but I cannot really figure out
 how to accomplish task #6
 I've tried with MeetMe or call parking but with no success.
 
 Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 Thanks
 
 
 -- 
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 B-Press Srl - Gruppo MSoft
 P.IVA 01697420030
 P.le Lombardia, 4 - 28100 Novara - Italy
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best wifi IP phone for asterisk

2007-06-26 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Hendrik Visage wrote:

 On 6/25/07, Michelle Dupuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  We're looking at a large wifi phone deployment, and we're looking for wifi
  phones that:
 
 HAve a look at the Linksys WIP 300 (or something)
 Can be charged from the USB port


I have a WIP330 and it doesn't work.  Maybe it needs a firmware upgrade.
Maybe it's a defective unit and all the others work fine.  I haven't
called support yet because I haven't had the chance.

Audio in one direction cuts out completely for about 4 seconds every 10
seconds during the call.  For 10 seconds it works fine... audio in both
directions... then 4 seconds of silence in one direction... then 10
seconds of normal, etc etc, repeating forever.

Completely unusable as-is.

All my other Linksys IP Phones work great, though.  I only have one
WIP330.  I don't have any WIP300's.

My recommendation:  Whatever you go with, buy ONE first for testing to
make sure you're happy with it BEFORE you buy a boatload of them.

-- Nick




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Re: [asterisk-users] Best wifi IP phone for asterisk

2007-06-25 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Marcus Franke wrote:

 Benny Amorsen schrieb:
  MM Siemens GigaSet SL75
 
  The SL75 is DECT, not Wifi.
 
  Apart from that, was it really necessary to quote 20 lines and add a
  ridiculous 15 line disclaimer telling me that I'm not allowed to read
  the message?
 There is a GigaSet SL75 WLAN.
 
 http://gigaset.siemens.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_122755_rArNrNrNrN,00.html
 

Is this strictly a European phone?  I can't find anyone who is selling
them in the US... at least not a company I've ever heard of or dealt with
before.

Tried Amazon.com, voipsupply.com, Tech Data, and 3 pages of Google search
results, etc.

-- Nick



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Re: [asterisk-users] got-name

2007-06-22 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Luki wrote:

  I don't know how to contact them, but I am having the same problem.
  The domain is registered to Jed Stafford. If you want the domain contact
  details you can do a whois.
 
 The same Jed Stafford as SellVoip.net? Oh yes, that explains it... see 
 archives.
 
 --Luki


Oh, you're kidding me!?  Oh geez.  Guess that's *another* lesson to learn.
Always check the whois on a domain and compare it against Google searches
for complaints before you do business with a new company.

I guess I can kiss my $5.00 goodbye.  Luckily it was only $5 and I didn't
pay for more yet.

What bothers me more than losing the $5 is the fact that I STILL need a
CNAM service, and I don't want to pay the huge amount my CLEC wants for
it.

Anyone know of any other CNAM services, preferably NOT run by this guy?

-- Nick




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Re: [asterisk-users] CNAM.

2007-06-17 Thread Nick Seraphin


I signed up for www.got-name.com about a week or two ago... seems to work
fine with Asterisk, so long as you use 1.2 or 1.4 (doesn't work at all
with 1.0).  Good pricing, no minimums, no monthly fees, no setup fees.  I
originally saw them mentioned on one of these asterisk lists... either biz
or users...  so I gave them a try.

Since I'm using 1.0 code on my production box, I can't use it right now...
but I tested it on 1.2 and it worked good...  so when I finally get my
production machine replaced in a month or two I'll start using it full
time.  So I can't really comment on how well it works under pressure
right now... just onesy-twosy seems to work fine.

-- Nick


On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Alex Balashov wrote:

 
 So, is there anyone out there that provides rather generic but 
 comprehensive CNAM-style directory services via SIP, to end-users?  So
 I can put names to my calling numbers?
 
 Thanks!
 
 --
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 Evariste Systems
 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
 Tel: +1-678-954-0670
 Direct : +1-678-954-0671
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] CNAM.

2007-06-17 Thread Nick Seraphin


Yes... 1.5 cents per dip...  you prepay the fees... and they deduct from
the prepaid amount.  You can start with $5.00 which seems like a low-risk
to check it out at least.

The CLEC I use is more expensive that that for CNAM, and they want to do
it on EVERY incoming call, even wrong numbers, whether it's answered or
not, per PRI.  So since I get several thousand wrong numbers a month, and
only 100 or so calls that I actually CARE what the CNAM is on those calls,
I can set it up in Asterisk to only do the dip for certain DNIS numbers.

I calculated that instead of $70+/month this will cost me $1.50/month.
Nice savings. :-)

I just hope it's reliable when the call volume picks up more.

-- Nick


On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Alex Balashov wrote:

 
 Thanks Nick.
 
 Do they charge per directory dip, or in some other unit?
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Slightly OT:CSU on Digium cards, and it's requirement

2007-06-14 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, C F wrote:

 On 6/13/07, Erik Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/13/07, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This is just weird I wrote it in caps so you can read it but you still
   didn't read it so here it is again: its a T1 card that does NOT have a
   CSU in it, and it is working fine and yes it is a T1 providing PRI.
 
  sarcasm
  Dang shmaltz.  You've convinced us - we've all been wasting our
  precious money on CSUs this whole time.  We're all idiots!
  /sarcasm
 
  Seriously - if you're so sure about your card not having a CSU, what
  is the make/model?  Pony up, man.
 
 It's a Panasonic KX-TA0187 for T1, or KX-TA02290
 
 The docs and technicians say it doesn have one AND that the FCC
 requires it. Hence my qeustion does the FCC require it.


I think what he's referring to is really the KX-TD187... which is a T1
interface module for the Panasonic KX-TD1232 Digital Hybrid Phone System
(I have one of these systems, but not the T1 module).

Now there is a KX-TA1232 analog system, and maybe there was a KX-TA187
module for it that has since been discontinued... but I think he meant the
digital one.

http://www.ablecomm.com/t1isdideq.html

They do SAY it doesn't have a CSU... but it's beyond my understanding of
how it could possibly work without one.

They seem to sell a separate CSU module that can go with it.  Maybe he's
just not seeing the extra little box because there's more wire between
that and the demarc?

Was this a system that was already installed for you?  Or did you install
it yourself?  Maybe the CSU is external and you just didn't recognize/see
it there?

When I first started working with T1's, most CSU's were external.  I still
have several of them in storage in fact... and I still use external
CSU/DSU's on my production network today. :-)  I'm typing this message and
it will be sent over a T1 connected to 2 external CSU's before it reaches
the internet.

Bottom line is, no matter what the FCC says... and if somehow you managed
to get it to work without a CSU... I believe the phone company would have
a fit if they knew you connected equipment to their network without a CSU
on it.  They're very big on standards-compliance and stuff like that.
Sometime look into their rules and regs about colocating equipment inside
one of their CO's...  it's very very strict.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Slightly OT:CSU on Digium cards, and it's requirement

2007-06-14 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, C F wrote:

  Bottom line is, no matter what the FCC says... and if somehow you managed
  to get it to work without a CSU... I believe the phone company would have
  a fit if they knew you connected equipment to their network without a CSU
  on it.  They're very big on standards-compliance and stuff like that.
  Sometime look into their rules and regs about colocating equipment inside
  one of their CO's...  it's very very strict.
 
 The last thing you say is why I am asking this question. The
 compliance doesn't realy bother me that much, what I am afraid is if
 the provider notices this and decides to cut it because of that.


Whether they would actually cut you off or not probably depends on A) if
they find out about it, and B) whoever finds out about it is a strict
play-by-the-rules kinda guy and/or has a grudge against you or is having a
bad day.  A lot of telco employees tend to look the other way...
especially if it's not their job to care about it.

But... they would have every right to terminate the service if you don't
have proper equipment connected to their network.  So if they DID decide
to terminate it, they would legally have the right to do so, and you would
have no recourse other than possibly to purchase the correct equipment and
maybe pay a reconnect fee to get service turned back on, which may take
days/weeks/whatever time frame to do so.

So it's basically a question of, can you afford the downtime caused by
them shutting you off if/when they ever found out and/or cared enough to
follow the rules.

The other possibility, considering it is working for you now, is that
there IS a CSU built in but they don't want to tell you... maybe for
example because it's not FCC certified... or so that they can charge you
for an external CSU.

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Re: [asterisk-users] SPA400 and asterisk

2007-06-13 Thread Nick Seraphin


Wow... how did you get it to work with Asterisk?

I bought one a few months ago... played with it for 2-3 days... couldn't
get it going... so I stuck it in the basement on my pile of projects to
work on when I have a bunch of free time to waste, hoping it doesn't
become a doorstop.

Did you have to upgrade the firmware to get it to work?  Or were there any
special config settings?  Like in the Grandstream 4104, I found out from
Support that they require the SIP account usernames to be all numeric, no
alpha characters, or it won't work.

I followed the instructions I found on a web site for getting the SPA400
to work with Asterisk, but when I duplicated their settings, it didn't
work at all for me.  I used my own experience to tweak various things, and
try different scenarios... until I finally gave up.

I'd love to get it working...  if you could share a sample config or other
advice, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

-- Nick


On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Alberto Sagredo (M) wrote:

 You could use it as a usually FXO Gateway. I have tested and it works fine.
 
 2007/6/12, MBIT Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Hi Guys
 
 
 
  I am just looking to see if you can help me. I have been investigating the
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Re: [asterisk-users] SPA400 and asterisk

2007-06-13 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Gergo Csibra wrote:

 Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 9:44:08 AM, Nick wrote:
 
  I'd love to get it working...  if you could share a sample config or other
  advice, I'd appreciate it.
 
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Linksys-Cisco+SPA400
 http://voxilla.com/voxilla-tips/voxilla-tips/the-linksys-spa400-and-asterisk-886.html
 
 http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/

How about
http://www.justfuckingreadtheoriginalmessagebeforebeingasmartass.com/

If you would have read my message, I already said I tried sample configs I
found on the web and they didn't work for me.

But I guess it was just more fun for you to try to look superior.

-- Nick


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Re: [asterisk-users] UPDATE... 2 down, 1 to go (3 questions - variables, upgrading, and IRC)

2007-06-08 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Jared Smith wrote:

 On 6/7/07, Nick Seraphin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Still need an answer to this one.
 
 I wrote a response yesterday, but it looks like it didn't come through
 for some reason.  The answer is to use the DumpChan() application and
 watch the CLI when it's called.


Yeah... Thanks... I got your first reply after I sent the second message.
I guess the mail list server was backed up.  Unfortunately, DumpChan
didn't appear until 1.2, so I'm going to have to upgrade anyway.

Thanks,

-- Nick


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Re: [asterisk-users] UPDATE... 2 down, 1 to go (3 questions - variables, upgrading, and IRC)

2007-06-08 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Steve Edwards wrote:

 On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Jared Smith wrote:
 
  On 6/7/07, Nick Seraphin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Still need an answer to this one.
 
  I wrote a response yesterday, but it looks like it didn't come through
  for some reason.  The answer is to use the DumpChan() application and
  watch the CLI when it's called.
 
 I interpreted this question as how do I see the variables for this 
 channel using the CLI? -- show channel foo.

That's true... that's exactly what I wanted.  But DumpChan does provide
the functionality too.  The problem is, both DumpChan and the enhancement
to show channel that you describe (listing the variables) weren't added
until at least 1.2.  My version, when you do a show channel whatever
doesn't show any of the variables.  I checked that long before I sent my
first message. :-)

Thanks,

-- Nick


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[asterisk-users] 3 questions - variables, upgrading, and IRC

2007-06-07 Thread Nick Seraphin


1)  How can I get a list of currently set channel variables for a specific
channel in Asterisk, including custom variables set by the dialplan?  I
don't want a static list of variables from a web site, I need the current
dynamic list that shows custom variables that are specific only to this
channel.

2)  Where can I find a comprehensive list of problems and
incompatibilities when upgrading from Asterisk 1.0 to 1.2 or 1.4?  I have
a production machine that has been running on a CVS HEAD version from
around the 1.0 days (definitely long before 1.2) and I understand a lot of
things changed, like variables, functions, and syntax that were either
deprecated or removed.  I need to prepare myself for the upgrade in
advance to limit the amount of downtime to an absolute minimum, but this
means I need to know what is going to break when I try to use my old
configs (extensions.conf, sip.conf, etc.) with a 1.4 system?  I really
don't want to put out the fires one by one, testing things until it
finally works... I want to fix everything in advance before the upgrade.

3) When I tried to go to the IRC network to ask these questions online, I
found myself unable to get into #asterisk because I can't remember the
password I used to register my nickname.  Is there a way to reset my IRC
nickname/nickserv password?  Or is there a person in charge of it that I
can email to get this taken care of?  Obviously, I would ask on IRC if I
could, but I can't even get into the channel.

Thanks,

-- Nick


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Re: [asterisk-users] UPDATE... 2 down, 1 to go (3 questions - variables, upgrading, and IRC)

2007-06-07 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Nick Seraphin wrote:

 
 
 1)  How can I get a list of currently set channel variables for a specific
 channel in Asterisk, including custom variables set by the dialplan?  I
 don't want a static list of variables from a web site, I need the current
 dynamic list that shows custom variables that are specific only to this
 channel.

Still need an answer to this one.



 2)  Where can I find a comprehensive list of problems and
 incompatibilities when upgrading from Asterisk 1.0 to 1.2 or 1.4?  I have
 a production machine that has been running on a CVS HEAD version from
 around the 1.0 days (definitely long before 1.2) and I understand a lot of
 things changed, like variables, functions, and syntax that were either
 deprecated or removed.  I need to prepare myself for the upgrade in
 advance to limit the amount of downtime to an absolute minimum, but this
 means I need to know what is going to break when I try to use my old
 configs (extensions.conf, sip.conf, etc.) with a 1.4 system?  I really
 don't want to put out the fires one by one, testing things until it
 finally works... I want to fix everything in advance before the upgrade.

Found UPGRADES.TXT in the source tar balls.  I was hoping for something a
little different, but this should work, so long as I read everything in
both the 1.2 and the 1.4 versions of the file.  I assume these files
contain all the known incompatibilities with upgrading... if not, please
let me know.


 3) When I tried to go to the IRC network to ask these questions online, I
 found myself unable to get into #asterisk because I can't remember the
 password I used to register my nickname.  Is there a way to reset my IRC
 nickname/nickserv password?  Or is there a person in charge of it that I
 can email to get this taken care of?  Obviously, I would ask on IRC if I
 could, but I can't even get into the channel.

I finally figured out my password, so this is no longer an issue.

-- Nick


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Re: [asterisk-users] Provisioning Linksys PAP2T ATA's

2007-06-07 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Mattt wrote:

 Doug,
 
   We just pre-provision the Linksys CPE (including PAP2(T)-NA's) in
 the lab over TFTP after barcode-scanning the relevant information for
 that unit into a web management interface and, once the unit is deployed
 onsite, it continues to pull it's config from our prov server over HTTP.
 
   The provisioning service itself is just a PHP engine which pulls the
 relevant settings for that CPE from a database - this way, we can have
 individual parameters for certain customers (who might be, for instance,
 having issues with echo or latency, etc, etc, or some need for a
 different config to our norm).


Does your PHP engine just generate a plain text XML file to HTTP via
stdout?

Does it work the same for both PAP2's and the IP Phones (SPA942/SPA962,
etc)?

I've successfully provisioned an SPA942 via plain text XML from a tftp
server, but I've never tried a PAP2 remotely, nor have I tried with HTTP.

Do you find any problems with security with it being in plain text?

Do you disable the restore to factory defaults thing?

Do you upgrade to the latest firmware before shipping out your PAP2's?

(more below)
 
   Works a treat, is easy as (once the coding is done), and takes about
 10 seconds to pre-prov (also provides the opportunity to ensure the unit
 isn't a DOA). Customer simply receives the device and plugs it in, waits
 a few seconds (the pre-prov doesn't configure the unit, just prepares it
 for remote provisioning from the target site), then starts making calls.
 
   Oh - and, unless you can locate some new, old stock, you won't find
 the PAP2-NA (with the blue LEDs) anywhere. They were discontinued many
 months ago...

What's the difference(s) between a PAP2 and a PAP2T?  I've only got
PAP2's, and I've got several spares in inventory that I'm hoping I won't
regret having. :-)

Thanks,

-- Nick


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Re: [asterisk-users] Semi OT - Cable products suppliers

2007-06-07 Thread Nick Seraphin


My favorite place for all cable infrastructure products is the local
Graybar warehouse.  I'm lucky to have one only about 20-25 minutes away.

Check www.graybar.com to see if they have one near you.

On the web, www.ablecomm.com has some nifty and hard to find
telecom-related products and tools, but they are expensive.  I've ordered
from them several times... they're reputable.  But expensive.

Graybar is the cheapest place I've found.  If someone knows a good
web-based store with better pricing and good selection, I'd love to see
it for my own use. :-)

-- Nick


On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone have a good recommendation for a supplier of punch blocks, 25 
 pair connectors and cables, etc?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] 3 questions - variables, upgrading, and IRC

2007-06-07 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Jared Smith wrote:

 On 6/7/07, Nick Seraphin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  1)  How can I get a list of currently set channel variables for a specific
  channel in Asterisk, including custom variables set by the dialplan?
 
 Use the DumpChan() dialplan application.

Thanks... guess I'll have to bite the bullet and upgrade to 1.2 (probably
1.4, since 1.2 is soon to be end-of-life'd.

Will 1.4 run on a 2.4 kernel?  Or am I going to have to upgrade that too?

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Re: [asterisk-users] click to call

2007-06-02 Thread Nick Seraphin


This is exactly what I understand click-to-call to be in every case I've
ever seen it implemented.  Two outbound calls, bridged together from a
central server.


On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Joseph Bajin wrote:

 You shouldn't need a softphone to do Click to Call.. The idea is
 pretty simple, and maybe I am missing something since I am haven't
 worked with Asterisk enough, but basically you start off by making the
 call to the Initial Party, Park the Call, Call the Other Party and
 then Connect them together..
 
 Seems pretty simple and easy enough to do.
 
 
 
 On 6/2/07, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  JIAX client could be modified to do this for free.  The project has been
  stalled for quite a while but the demo works and the source is there and
  open.  I have seen people successfully use it for click to dial for
  free but they use it internally and do not intend to put it out in the
  public domain.
 
  http://www.hem.za.org/jiaxclient
  http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?t=1636start=40
 
  Thanks,
  Steve Totaro
  http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com
  KB3OPB
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson
   Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 4:09 AM
   To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] click to call
  
   On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Anton Krall wrote:
  
So Guys, no go on this topic?
  
   I trialled a click-to-dial application recently. It generated a lot of
   controversy on the list (search the archives) because various people
  said
   it couldn't be done/wouldn't work, etc. Then there were whinges about
  the
   commercial nature of the application (it's licensed, not free, and
  details
   were being posted to the -users list) and so on. Personally, I didn't
  see
   why as the creators of the code were simply replying to questions
  asked by
   list members, however...
  
   (That's probably why you've not gotten many replies ;-)
  
   So the thing I trialled was a button on a web page which downlaoded a
   soft-phone program written in Java to your browser. The soft-phone
  uses
   the IAX protocol to connect to an asterisk server, then depending on
  the
   javascript that you write to encapsulate the button on the web page,
  you
   have the ability to specify username  password (to authenticate back
  to
   the asterisk server) and number to dial - the number you dial could
  even
   be entered via more javascript on the webpage, and the asterisk server
  at
   the back-end can then do what it needs to do with the number - dial an
   extension in a closed system, or even initiate a dial-out to the
  PSTN,
   if the server as such a connection and the connection is authorised.
  The
   end-user pushing the button doesn't need to see any of this at all -
  it
   can all be embedded in the javascript behind the button.
  
   You can specify callerId too, or dial different numbers, so the person
   answering the call could use this information to know what web page
  you
   are on for example. You can even embed it into an email signature with
  a
   different number then you could tell if they are calling you in reply
  to
   an email, and so on. (And much as I hate big HTML based email
  signatures,
   if done correctly this could be quite effective - and it doesn't need
  to
   download the Java - about 120KB until you click on the button)
  
   (They have a demonstration client which works with the Tesco VoIP
  service
   - you enter your Tesco username/password, then get a phone application
   with buttons, etc. The Tesco VoIP system unusually uses IAX rather
  than
   SIP as their transport mechanism!)
  
   I tried the application on a WinXP box, Linux box and Mac, and as long
  as
   the sound system was setup to work with the headset  microphone, it
  just
   worked - At last, Java doing what it was supposed to be doing,
  working
   correctly cross platform!
  
   Some of the whinges to the list were that a soft-phone couldn't
  possibly
   be written in Java as Java was too heavyweight - well, this is the
  latter
   part of the first decade of the new millennium and Java has come a
  long
   way
   since it was first released, and they couldn't be further from the
  truth -
   in use on my 2GHz Linux box, it was using about 2-3% CPU, and at 120KB
  to
   download, is no worse than your average mid-resolution camera image
  these
   days.
  
   If this is what you're after, then go to
  
  http://www.mexuar.com/products_connect.shtml
  
   They were happy to give me a time-limited trial of the software, which
  I
   used, and found worked really well. You will need to write some html
  and
   javascript to encapsulate it into your own web page, but that's not
  hard
   to do and examples are provided.
  
   Now all I need is some clients to sell it to ;-)
  
   Gordon
  
   
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RE: [asterisk-users] click to call

2007-06-02 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Steve Totaro wrote:

 That is a totally different concept than we have been discussing.  You
 are talking about actual phones and the person clicking, then entering
 their phone number having to pick up a physical phone.  This is as
 trivial as generating a .call file and dialplan magic.
 
 The concept we are discussing is clicking a link that connects the
 clicker to whatever via the computer using a headset or speakers and a
 mic.  No phone or numbers involved, at least to the clicker. 


The problem is, the only people who will be able to use that link are
geeks that have a headset/mic on their computer.

Most normal people don't have those devices, and even if they did, they
feel much more comfortable with the concept of making phone calls using a
telephone.

We all often forget that the vast majority of the outside world is not
technically-inclined in any way, and that unless your web site is only
targetted towards computer geeks, you're creating a huge barrier for the
average customer.  Everyone has a phone, though.

If the analog FXS adapter had not been created and reduced to an
affordable price, VOIP would still only be about as popular today as it
was in 1995.

-- Nick


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RE: [asterisk-users] click to call

2007-06-02 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Dean Collins wrote:

 Hi Nick,
 Totally disagree with you. We the prevalence of skype, im and MP3's
 You'd be surprised how many users have headsets.


Well, I'm probably one of the geekiest guys in this geographic area.  I've
been online since 1986, been on the internet since around 1991/92, and
been running an ISP since 1995.  I love electronic gadgets, computers,
networking, telephony, etc.  I write software.  I build things.  I've even
spent hundreds of hours reading various ILEC and CLEC tarriff filings for
fun.  I'm about as geeky as they come, outside of silicon valley.  Yet, I
do NOT have a headset/mic thingy for using voip from a computer, and I've
never used skype in my life.  Never even been to their web site.  Oh, and
my very large MP3 collection is ripped from legally purchased CD's, not
downloaded from the internet (unless you count purchased iTunes songs).

Anyway, other than possibly a few local ISP-owners/techs I know personally
in the area, I don't know of ANYONE who has a headset/mic setup for voip
over the net, nor anyone who uses skype or has ever used skype and
mentioned it to me.  Now, I don't know alot of 14-24 yr olds, which may be
the demographic that embraces those things...  I mostly know people who
are between 25 and 65.  Yet every single person I know, from age 5 to age
95, has a phone or has access to a phone.

Now maybe in the big cities... or out in silicon valley...  the numbers
are quite a bit higher in your favor.  But in flyover country I'd say
the number of people who have a computer with internet access and a
headset/mic setup for voip is much less than 5%.  Compared with 99.999%
that have a phone or access to a phone.

And even if they HAVE the device, most people feel far more comfortable
talking on a phone than they do at a computer console.  Again, VOIP
wouldn't be very popular at all today if it weren't for the ability to use
your regular phone, and/or phone-like devices (IP phones).

I guess it depends on where you are and who you know as to what seems to
be the average behavior of people.  For me, it seems obvious.  But maybe
the people you know, in your area, are completely different than my
situation.  If your site markets to people outside your area, however,
then it's important you know what the people around here are like, because
I'd bet this is more average nationwide.  (I could be wrong)

 
 What you are missing here is the additional functionality you get from
 using a browser delivered call then a pstn call.
 
 If you have the right business drivers allowing your users to reach you
 for free via IP Click-to-Talk is a huge plus over the older generation
 Click-to-Talk.


Well obviously it's cheaper, since you don't have to pay for PSTN
termination.  And certainly, if your target market is people who have
those devices, then it makes perfect sense.  Or likewise, if you offer it
as an additional option to the standard methods click-to-call methods,
and phone/email like everyone else has.  There's definitely a place for
what you describe.  But the typical non-geek consumer won't have a clue
what to do with it.  Like I said before, it just creates a barrier that
doesn't need to be there.  Everyone has a phone, so using a phone is going
to allow you to reach the most potential customers.

It's kind of like companies that build their web sites so that they only
work with IE.  They alienate a huge base of users that either refuse to
use IE, can't use IE, or really don't want to use IE.  I'm the latter.  So
I have to make a choice... do I want to visit that site bad enough to open
up an IE window (and possibly move to a different computer terminal if I
don't have IE on the one I'm using), risk the security problems of IE, and
be generally inconvenienced?  Or will I just go to a competitor's site, or
find another source for the info/product?

If you are selling a product or service, and make money from your site,
you NEVER want to give the customer ANY reason to even THINK about going
somewhere else.  Especially if there are easily implementable ways to
avoid it.

-- Nick

P.S.  If this came across at all as being irritable, sorry, it wasn't
meant that way.  I think this hot weather is getting to me.  :-)



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Re: [asterisk-users] High Port Count ATA

2007-05-31 Thread Nick Seraphin


Those 24+ port devices get *really* expensive, *really* fast.

I would probably go with the new Linksys SPA-8000 (I think that's the
model number)...  its an 8-port FXS adapter and is only around $300 or so.

So 110 ports, you would need 14 of them...  $4200 with the advantage that
if one dies, you only lose 8 ports, not 24 or 48.

Using high-density solutions could easily run you over $10,000+ depending
on the model/manufacturer/density.

Plus, at $300 you can afford to keep 2 or 3 spares on the shelf just in
case...  where as with a high density solution, even keeping 1 spare
would be very costly.

-- Nick


On Thu, 31 May 2007, Douglas Garstang wrote:

 I'm trying to find a high port count ATA device. We have a lot (up to
 110) analog devices that we need to bridge to IP. Rather than go out and
 buy 110 ATA's, it would make more sense to buy a single chassis type
 device with some number of ports and blades. Anyone know if such a
 device exists?
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Doug.
 
  
 
 

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[asterisk-users] Patton gateways (was: stream file not working but get data and exec background work)

2007-05-24 Thread Nick Seraphin


On Wed, 23 May 2007, Patrick Fortin wrote:

 Here is the setup
 
 Pri SIP Gateway(Patton) - Asterisk (ztdummy) - SIP Phone

Wow... you're the first one I've seen who is using a Patton gateway, so I
hope you don't mind me asking you...  why did you go that route?

From what I saw a while ago (I may be wrong) I thought Patton's SIP
gateways were way overpriced compared to other similar solutions.  Now I'm
going to have to go and double-check... maybe I misunderstood.

Or was there some sort of other reason why you chose Patton that made
price un-important?

Do you like their sip gateways?  What port density (or model?) do you
have?

-- Nick



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Re: [asterisk-users] SIP Dial Command to a non-Asterisk url

2007-05-23 Thread Nick Seraphin


The 2 most common problems I've seen for no audio in one or both
directions is usually either a firewall (which you already said you don't
have) or a CODEC problem.

Make sure both sides are negotiating the same CODEC.  I've often seen
situations where something like the Asterisk server will allow gsm, g711,
etc. and the phone is set for g711, but because gsm was first in the list
on the asterisk side, asterisk was trying to do gsm and the phone wanted
g711 and they wouldn't sync up.  It wasn't until I did a:

disallow=all
allow=g711

in sip.conf that it finally started working for me.

That may not be your exact problem, but my guess would be a CODEC issue if
it's not your firewall.

-- Nick


On Wed, 23 May 2007, Gavin Henry wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 I have a tiny dial plan like:
 
 [testing]
 exten = 454,s,Ringing()
 exten = 454,n,Wait(4)
 exten = 454,n,Dial(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5605,10)
 exten = 454,n,Hangup
 
 
 This connects fine when I dial 454 from any extension in my system,
 but there is never any audio?
 
 Where can I start to look for debugging this? It's all internal so no
 NAT problems?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gavin.
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Re: [asterisk-users] [*Win32 0.60] Sending call notification by e-mail/web?

2007-05-15 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Tue, 15 May 2007, Vincent Delporte wrote:

 Hello,
 
 In case there are other users of the AsteriskWin32 port...
 
 I haven't really used the AGI feature of Asterisk to run an application 
 from extensions.conf. *Win32 supports Perl, which I don't know. Apparently, 
 it's also possible to write AGI applications as EXE's (there's a 
 eagi-test.exe file installed by default).
 
 = When a call comes in, I'd like an AGI application to send an e-mail and 
 send CID name/number to a script on a web server.
 
 Is this the correct way to do it in Perl, with the modules available in 
 AsteriskWin32? Could I rewrite this in Delphi instead?


ALL AGI scripts are basically just programs that read from stdin and write
to stdout.  They can therefore be written in almost any language.  So yes,
Delphi should work fine.

(I have very fond memories of Delphi, and before that, Borland Pascal w/
Objects for DOS, and before that, Turbo Pascal...  one of these days I'll
have to get the latest version of Delphi and take a walk down memory lane.
These days everything is C this or Perl that.  I loved Pascal. :-)) 

-- Nick


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Re: [asterisk-users] Web based call control

2007-05-14 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Mon, 14 May 2007, Jordan Novak wrote:

 Does anyone know if it is possible to use a manager command to answer
 an incoming call and not consider it answered unitl it is received.
 Here is an example, I am deivering a call in the dialplan to a home
 telephone number. I don't want his voicemail to answer and I have no
 idea how long it will take to go to their home phone voicemail, but I
 don't want to deliver the call there, I want it to go to the next
 priority in asterisk. So I was thinking that it would be nice to build
 a web interface that they could have a button to answer with. This
 would send a manager command to the server telling it to answer the
 channel, any thoughts on how to do this.
  


Most companies that I've seen who want this type of behavior have 2
available options.

1) Ask the person with the destination home phone number to cancel their
voicemail from the phone company, so that the phone just rings until it
times out.  Usually they won't want to do this, because other incoming
calls to their home number would not go to voicemail then... so unless
it's a line dedicated as a home-office number that only receives calls
from your system, they won't be happy.

2) The most popular option is have the caller listen to music while
waiting, and then when the destination picks up, play an announcement to
them and wait for DTMF input.  Hi, you have a call from the PBX system...
press 1 to accept this call.  If they press 1, you connect the two
parties.  If after X number of seconds you don't get a response, i.e.
voicemail picked up, or their 4 yr old child picked up, then no DTMF will
be received and you set it to time out and either go on to the next
priority or send it to voicemail.

As far as I know, there is absolutely no way to prevent the destination's
phone company voicemail (or answering machine) from answering the call
unless you have a reliable way to know exactly how many rings it is set to
before it will answer, AND you have assurance that the number of rings 
will NOT be changed.

Granted, probably 90% or more of all voicemail systems out there default
to answer after the 4th or 5th ring, you could always set it to time-out
after 3 rings and have decent success rates... but if the caller is
already on the phone, unless they have call waiting, the call will go to
voicemail on the first ring.

I guess theoretically you could always use voicemail detection to see if
voicemail answered the call instead of a human, and then somehow grab the
call back and transfer it to another extension... but this would probably
require a custom Application or modification of the Asterisk source code.

If I'm wrong, and there's a better way to do this, someone PLEASE let me
know... because I'm planning a project that will have the exact same
problem.  (That's why I've researched this problem already.)

-- Nick


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] AGI Silence detection

2003-07-18 Thread Nick Seraphin

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Stuart Hirst wrote:

 Does anyone how you might detect a period of x milliseconds of silence
 using AGI ?


I added silence detection to the Record() application and to the record
function in the AGI interface in asterisk.

It's based on dsp.c, like someone else said.  Basically, it waits for X
milliseconds of silence and then stops recording, and then deletes those X
milliseconds of silence from the end of the recording.

If you look at the record function in AGI, you should be able to see how
to do this pretty easily.

The part about detecting silence shouldn't be difficult, but I'm not sure
how you would tell the AGI program that it was detected.

-- Nick
   EagleQuest, Inc.
   Metro Telephony, Inc.
   Rochester, Michigan



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