Re: [Asterisk-Users] 802.1p , precedence and TOS

2005-04-21 Thread SCollins
I Don't know if this is a solution that is not better suited for your  
Linux Distro, using vconfig and a 802.1q/1p aware NIC, on the * Server, to  
create and prioitize the Ingress and Egress Voice VLAN traffic.

Would you not agree?
Sean





 On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:14:17 +0200, Eugenio De Vena [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Thanks for your kind help, I understand ip precedence and that's ok. I  
also
found on Snom phones how to mark 802.1p ( which is what I need now ). On
the 3Com 3300 802.1p is enabled and correctly priorized . The only thing  
I miss
is how to tell asterisk to originate rtp packet marked with 802.1p tag  
( at layer 2 )
Any idea?

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Questions:
1) How can I set the 802.1p precedence field from Snom and asterisk?
2) Which is the differences between the IP Precedence field and TOS
 field?
IP Precednce and ToS are synonymous. There is a 3-bit ToS field in the  
IP header that allows for 8 levels of classification of IP traffic -  
these are known as the IP precedence bits.

802.1p or CoS (Class of Service) is a Layer 2 Prioitization protocol.  
802.1p uses a 3-bit prioitization field, in an 802.1q TAG,to define 8  
priority levels.  To obtain the correct Layer 2 CoS on your 3300 I  
believe you need to set the prioritization on the IP phone, using  
802.1q and then setting the prioritization, and then configure the  
clasifiers and profiles on the 3Com 3300 so that it will remark the  
packets on ingress.  The CoS traffic classification will need to be  
configured on ALL Switches in your network for the 802.1p prioritzation  
of the Voice traffic.

Most layer 3 Switches support both ToS and CoS and will re-mark the  
802.1p Prioritization into the ToS field in the IP header, so that if  
the traffic is being routed, between VLANs for example, the traffic  
will maintain it's priority.

Hope this helps.
Sean
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:28:43 +0200, Eugenio De Vena [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hello everyone, I have some doubt on the QoS matter and I hope that  
someone
could
bring me some light.
I see my 3Com 3300 switch supports 802.1p priorization ,
I see through Microsoft network monitor that the packet coming from my  
SIP
phones
have in IP header  a field which is marked Precedence and when the  
packet
is sent from
phone to asterisk the value is CRITICAL/EXP , when the packet is  
sent back
from asterisk
to phone the value is Normal. To correct this I set the value Tos  
in
sip.conf to 160 and now
the packet sent back from asterisk to phone is marked CRITICAL/EXP  
too.
Fine.
Under the field Precedence there is a value called Type of Service  
(
TOS ) and the values is
Normal both ways.

Googling around I see that 802.1p is a Layer2 and not Layer3  
specification
so it must work at MAC level,
so I think that these field which are contained into the IP header are  
not
considered  by my switch and are just ignored.
The Ip precedence field I think would be considered when routed by a  
QoS
router ( which is not my case ).

Questions:
1) How can I set the 802.1p precedence field from Snom and asterisk?
2) Which is the differences between the IP Precedence field and TOS  
field?

Thanks Everyone
Eugenio
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk POE

2005-04-19 Thread SCollins
What PoE Switch are you thinking of using or own?  The 802.3af Spec, as I  
understand it, uses a special Fast Link Pulse to detect if the Powered  
Device needs to receive power.

However, there are vendors that have pre-spec (before 2003) Switches that  
MAY NOT follow the spec.

There are also (2) differant types of PoE Sourcing Switches.
End-Span and Mid-Span
Mid-Span sits between the IP phone that needs powers and the Data Switch  
that connects to the network.  The Mid-Span ONLY supplies power to the IP  
Phone and thus requires the addition of an Ethernet Sitch or Hub to  
provide the connectivity to the network.

End-Span devices incorporate the Power Sourcing capabilities of the  
mid-Span and the Ethernet connectivity of a Switch.

Now it gets tricky.  As I understand the spec, and from my own experience,  
a PoE Switch can source power over pins 1,2,3, and 6 as well as Ethernet  
connectivity OR it can source PoE over the unused pins 4,5,7 and 8 BUT it  
does not have to do both.

On the other hand, a 802.3af compliant PoE device (IP phone, Wireless AP,  
Surveilance Camera)must be able to detect the FLPs on either of the (4)  
pairs and then source according to what the PoE Switch is sending.

Yes, a PoE Switch can toast a NIC/PCMCIA card if the PoE Switch is a  
Mid-Span device or power Injector (I don't believe these device are  
capable of detecting the capabilities of a Powered Device and thus they  
just source power down the designated Rx pairs - someone correct me if I'm  
wrong).

I would look at the product Data Sheet for your phone and find out how it  
handles sourced power and if it's 802.3af IEEE spec compliant.

Look at the PoE Swtich options Cisco, 3Com, Netgear, Asante, HP etc. I  
know from experience that Cisco is a great solution if you have a big  
budget for a Cat 3550.  3Com is Spec compliant and provides Power over  
pins 1,2,3 and 6 ONLY. Netgear is the least expensive solution, but with  
my experience it's hard to get support if you have problems with their  
product, unless you purchase a Service Contract (warranty support only  
entitles you to speak to 1st level Tech who can answer basic questions)

Hope some of this helped.
Sean


  tOn Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:32:00 +1000, Paul Hales [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Snom 200's  Polycom 600's.
Polycom 500's with the special lead.
Later,
PaulH
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Paul Hales wrote:
From our experience (with a HP 2626-PWR) it hasn't been an issue.
PaulH
Paul,
Would you like to share wich phones you're using on this switch?
Cheers,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 802.1p , precedence and TOS

2005-04-19 Thread SCollins
Questions:
1) How can I set the 802.1p precedence field from Snom and asterisk?
2) Which is the differences between the IP Precedence field and TOS
 field?
IP Precednce and ToS are synonymous. There is a 3-bit ToS field in the IP  
header that allows for 8 levels of classification of IP traffic - these  
are known as the IP precedence bits.

802.1p or CoS (Class of Service) is a Layer 2 Prioitization protocol.  
802.1p uses a 3-bit prioitization field, in an 802.1q TAG,to define 8  
priority levels.  To obtain the correct Layer 2 CoS on your 3300 I believe  
you need to set the prioritization on the IP phone, using 802.1q and then  
setting the prioritization, and then configure the clasifiers and profiles  
on the 3Com 3300 so that it will remark the packets on ingress.  The CoS  
traffic classification will need to be configured on ALL Switches in your  
network for the 802.1p prioritzation of the Voice traffic.

Most layer 3 Switches support both ToS and CoS and will re-mark the 802.1p  
Prioritization into the ToS field in the IP header, so that if the traffic  
is being routed, between VLANs for example, the traffic will maintain it's  
priority.

Hope this helps.
Sean
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:28:43 +0200, Eugenio De Vena [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Hello everyone, I have some doubt on the QoS matter and I hope that  
someone
could
bring me some light.
I see my 3Com 3300 switch supports 802.1p priorization ,
I see through Microsoft network monitor that the packet coming from my  
SIP
phones
have in IP header  a field which is marked Precedence and when the  
packet
is sent from
phone to asterisk the value is CRITICAL/EXP , when the packet is sent  
back
from asterisk
to phone the value is Normal. To correct this I set the value Tos in
sip.conf to 160 and now
the packet sent back from asterisk to phone is marked CRITICAL/EXP too.
Fine.
Under the field Precedence there is a value called Type of Service (
TOS ) and the values is
Normal both ways.

Googling around I see that 802.1p is a Layer2 and not Layer3  
specification
so it must work at MAC level,
so I think that these field which are contained into the IP header are  
not
considered  by my switch and are just ignored.
The Ip precedence field I think would be considered when routed by a QoS
router ( which is not my case ).

Questions:
1) How can I set the 802.1p precedence field from Snom and asterisk?
2) Which is the differences between the IP Precedence field and TOS  
field?

Thanks Everyone
Eugenio
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Netgear FSM7326P and Cisco 7960 on VLAN

2005-04-19 Thread SCollins
I had and issue with the FSM732P and DHCP Requests. I would get  
intermitant connectivity and eventually I would loose connectivity on a  
port, move the IP phone to a new port and eventually loose connectivity.  
The Netgear sounds suspect.

If all ports are a member of Default VLAN 1, untagged, and the ports are  
set to Admit All, the Switch will assign all packets received (untagged  
and those with priotization set) to PVID 1. Could it be a VLAN  
configuration or Routing problem?

Maybe it's a known bug that has been resolved with Firmware?
 FSM7326P Software Version 3.0.3.2
Issues This Firmware Resolves
1. The VLAN priority setting as configured were not working.
2. When setting fixed speed at 1000Mbps full-duplex for copper ports, the  
switch issued a warning.
3. The switch only allowed 8 route entries instead of 16 route entries

Hope something I said helps.
Sean



 On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:16:07 +0100, Ron Wellsted [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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Hi,
I have just finished a couple of very frustrating days trying to resolve
an issue with Asterisk 1.0.5, Netgear FSM7326P and Cisco 7960 phones
under SIP using a VLAN for the VoIP traffic.
The switch was configured with a default VLAN of 1 and the 7960s were
configured for a VLAN of 2.  The 7960s were tested with SIP firmware 7.3
and 7.4
The symptoms were as follows:
1/ When the phones were idle, every few minutes, the asterisk server
would loose MAC/IP address mapping for a phone.  Approx 10 seconds later
the mapping would reappear. (checked with arp -avn)
2/ When in a call, we would randomly loose sound TO the phone.  Sound
FROM the phone was OK.  This loss would continue for about 10 seconds.
Using ethereal, we sniffed the traffic in and out of the Asterisk box
and saw that we were not getting replies to the targeted ARP packets
being sent from the asterisk box, only replies to the broadcast ARP  
packets.

Sniffing a phone revealed that although the ARP packets were correctly
tagged as VLAN 2, the phone was replying to the targeted ARP packets on
VLAN 1 (!?).  As a result the Asterisk box was (correctly) expiring the
arp cache entry when the ttl was reached, then it would send a broadcast
 ARP packet which would be responded to by the phone on VLAN 2.
I have worked around this be removing the VLANs and by using DHCP
reservations to put the phones on a different subnet from the rest of
the network.
Has anyone else found themselves in a similar situation?  If so, how did
you work around it?
Is it worth raising a TAC with Cisco?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Installing Asterisk@Home on VMware Workstation 4.5.2- build 8848

2005-04-18 Thread SCollins
Sorry! Got it! All set.
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:54:37 -0400, SCollins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Just curious what syntax did you use to load the VMware tools on Fedora  
Core 3?

Thanks,
Sean
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:50:56 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I installed asterisk 1.0.7 successfully on VMware workstation with  
fedora 3 as guest.
Of course without any hardware only pure asterisk. It works fine for  
testing.

SCollins wrote:
Newbie Question
Has anybody installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] on VMware Workstation (w/ WMware   
Tools)successfully?

Thanks,
Sean
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Installing Asterisk@Home on VMware Workstation 4.5.2- build 8848

2005-04-17 Thread SCollins
Just curious what syntax did you use to load the VMware tools on Fedora  
Core 3?

Thanks,
Sean
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:50:56 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I installed asterisk 1.0.7 successfully on VMware workstation with  
fedora 3 as guest.
Of course without any hardware only pure asterisk. It works fine for  
testing.

SCollins wrote:
Newbie Question
Has anybody installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] on VMware Workstation (w/ WMware   
Tools)successfully?

Thanks,
Sean
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[Asterisk-Users] Installing Asterisk@Home on VMware Workstation 4.5.2- build 8848

2005-04-16 Thread SCollins
Newbie Question
Has anybody installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] on VMware Workstation (w/ WMware  
Tools)successfully?

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