[asterisk-users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2007-05-29 Thread Olle E Johansson

Welcome to the Asterisk users community!


Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.

Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.

It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.

Last week we had the annual AstriDevCon - the Asterisk Developer's
Conference. At that meeting, core developers and project members
meet to discuss current and future issues, new designs and - equally
important - get a chance to know each other behind the acronyms
in the bug tracker and on the IRC. We had a great week where we
got a lot of important things done, as you can see on the number of
changes that was done to Asterisk during that week.

One decision that we took was to stop maintaining 1.2 as a current
release from August 1st 2007. At that date, we will move 1.2 of  
Asterisk,

Asterisk-addons, libpri and zaptel to security maintenance status.
1.4 will at that point be the recommended release.

Between now and August 1st we will focus on fixing open issues
in 1.4 to make sure it's production quality code. Please help us with
that by  answering questions quickly in the bug tracker, testing
and reporting issues. Together, we'll make sure that 1.4 becomes
a great product.

Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!

Meet you on the IRC channel, the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!

/oej

** Asterisk European Events

This week, I'll talk on the Open Source VoIP event in Utrecht,  
Netherlands

http://www.mediaplaza.nl/mp.php/overheid/agenda/agenda.php?id=230

June 12th we have a Asterisk BOF at the VON Europe show in Stockholm
http://www.von.com/2007/springEurope_stockholm/html/ 
confSchedule_gvsb1178630538.html#gvsb1178630538



** Asterisk version information

At this moment we have three current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the release versions (1.2/1.4). The release
versions are distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current released version of Asterisk is 1.2.18 for the 1.2 version
and 1.4.4 for the 1.4 version. The release version
is fixed, we are adding no new functions and only changes it
when bugs are fixed.

The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.5 and will be the basis
for the next release version, version 1.6.

There are also a lot of development branches in our subversion
repository, hosting new functionality developed for testing by
you, the Asterisk community.

For more information about these, please visit
http://www.voip-forum.com/index.php?p=189more=1


** The mailing list is growing

Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.

** Think before sending a message, think twice

I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the  
list.


If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your
apology than over your first message.

And please do not send out test messages to the list.

** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list

The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.

Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.

* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  You can download their new book from the web site or buy
  it from the bookstore.
* Asterisk Daily news is at
  http://www.sineapps.com/news.php

Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.

** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2006-04-24 Thread Olle E Johansson

Welcome to the Asterisk users community!


Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.

Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.

It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.

I have just returned from one week in Tokyo, testing the Asterisk
SIP channel with a large number of other SIP stacks. Since last
SIPit, the SIP stack has improved quite a lot. It looks really promising
for the 1.4 release of Asterisk this summer. Things are progressing
well. At the next SIPit in New Hampshire this fall, I hope to have the
first version of chan_sip3 for testing.

Asterisk is a world wide project with many members. In Tokyo, I met
Japanese Asterisk users and learned quite a lot on how they
use Asterisk. An Open Source project is not only about software,
it's also about the people involved. You are all very important,
your feedback and support are our keys to success.

Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!

Meet you on the IRC channel, the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!

/oej

** Asterisk European Tour - MeetAsterisk.com!
This week and next week there's a European tour with Asterisk
seminars for beginners, named MeetAsterisk. The event is organized
by Edvina.net in cooperation with Digium, Xorcom and local Asterisk
distributors and consultants. Register now to make sure you have a
seat!

- http://www.meetasterisk.com


** Asterisk version information

At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the release version. The release version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current released version of Asterisk is 1.2.7.1. The release version
is fixed, we are adding no new functions and only changes it
when bugs are fixed.

Current versions:
- Asterisk Version 1.2.7.1
- Zaptel Version 1.2.5
- Libpri Version 1.2.2
- Addons Version 1.2.2
- Sounds Version 1.2.1

The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.3 and will be the basis
for the next release version, version 1.4.

There are also a lot of development branches in our subversion
repository, hosting new functionality developed for testing by
you, the Asterisk community.

For more information about these, please visit
http://www.voip-forum.com/index.php?p=189more=1


** The mailing list is growing

Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.

** Think before sending a message, think twice

I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the  
list.


If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your
apology than over your first message.

And please do not send out test messages to the list.

** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list

The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.

Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.

* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  You can download their new book from the web site or buy
  it from the bookstore.
* Asterisk Daily news is at
  http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
* VoIP-search (Asterisk mailing list etc)
  http://search.voip-forum.com

Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.

** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on 

RE: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2006-04-24 Thread hgaillac-sip
Hi all,

Where can we find a roadmap of asterisk 1.4 release ?

Harry
--- Olle E Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Welcome to the Asterisk users community!
 
 
 Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony
 platform,
 with support both for classical telephony and IP
 telephony.
 Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is
 added every
 day.
 
 Our community is also growing fast and we're having
 a lot
 of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
 
 It's great to have you participating in this Open
 Source project
 - building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things
 to know and
 remember while working with the project.
 
 I have just returned from one week in Tokyo, testing
 the Asterisk
 SIP channel with a large number of other SIP stacks.
 Since last
 SIPit, the SIP stack has improved quite a lot. It
 looks really promising
 for the 1.4 release of Asterisk this summer. Things
 are progressing
 well. At the next SIPit in New Hampshire this fall,
 I hope to have the
 first version of chan_sip3 for testing.
 
 Asterisk is a world wide project with many members.
 In Tokyo, I met
 Japanese Asterisk users and learned quite a lot on
 how they
 use Asterisk. An Open Source project is not only
 about software,
 it's also about the people involved. You are all
 very important,
 your feedback and support are our keys to success.
 
 Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX
 Project!
 
 Meet you on the IRC channel, the bug tracker or
 on the mailing list!
 
 /oej
 
 ** Asterisk European Tour - MeetAsterisk.com!
 This week and next week there's a European tour with
 Asterisk
 seminars for beginners, named MeetAsterisk. The
 event is organized
 by Edvina.net in cooperation with Digium, Xorcom and
 local Asterisk
 distributors and consultants. Register now to make
 sure you have a
 seat!
 
 - http://www.meetasterisk.com
 
 
 ** Asterisk version information
 
 At this moment we have two current versions of
 Asterisk, the
 developer version and the release version. The
 release version
 is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several
 servers. The
 current released version of Asterisk is 1.2.7.1. The
 release version
 is fixed, we are adding no new functions and only
 changes it
 when bugs are fixed.
 
 Current versions:
 - Asterisk Version 1.2.7.1
 - Zaptel Version 1.2.5
 - Libpri Version 1.2.2
 - Addons Version 1.2.2
 - Sounds Version 1.2.1
 
 The development version is to be used by people that
 can test
 new functions and live with bugs and unexpected
 shortcomings.
 The development version is branded 1.3 and will be
 the basis
 for the next release version, version 1.4.
 
 There are also a lot of development branches in our
 subversion
 repository, hosting new functionality developed for
 testing by
 you, the Asterisk community.
 
 For more information about these, please visit
 http://www.voip-forum.com/index.php?p=189more=1
 
 
 ** The mailing list is growing
 
 Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the
 -users list. This
 means that everything anyone write to this mailing
 list, is sent to
 thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over
 with messages.
 That's why we all need to follow some simple rules
 on how to use
 the mailing list and the other tools that are
 available.
 
 ** Think before sending a message, think twice
 
 I would like to stress the fact that you have to
 think before you send a
 message to such a big list. Do *not* send out
 personal replies on the  
 list.
 
 If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or
 reply to the list, it
 will annoy more potential customers than get you new
 customers. If you
 send out a message by mistake, you don't have to
 apologize to all of us,
 we understand you're embarassed. We will get more
 annoyed by your
 apology than over your first message.
 
 And please do not send out test messages to the
 list.
 
 ** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
 
 The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an
 important
 knowledge base for the project.
 
 Go there to find your answer first, then search the
 mailing list
 archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com)
 and then
 go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated
 with Asterisk gurus
 around the clock (literally) and they'll help you
 move forward.
 
 * IRC info:
 http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
 * There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the
 documentation
page at http://www.asterisk.org
 * The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
 * The Asterisk documentation project (which needs
 your help)
is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
You can download their new book from the web site
 or buy
it from the bookstore.
 * Asterisk Daily news is at
http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
 * VoIP-search (Asterisk mailing list etc)
http://search.voip-forum.com
 
 Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try
 the list.
 
 ** 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2006-04-24 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where can we find a roadmap of asterisk 1.4 release ?

Harry... please use proper mailing list etiquette when posting to these
lists. It is very tiresome to see you quote an entire long message,
without changing the subject, and insert a one-line unrelated comment at
the top of your reply.

To answer your question: there is no roadmap for 1.4. We just began the
'scheduled release' cycle with this release, and we are still trying to
feel our way into the process and learn how much work we can accomplish
in a release cycle. Once 1.4 is done, I expect we will be putting
together a roadmap for 1.6, although given that the project gets a great
deal of its code from volunteer contributions, putting something on a
roadmap is in no way any guarantee that it will be part of that release.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2006-04-24 Thread hgaillac-sip

Ok,

Im not a developper but what do you think of both a
wish list .

Harry 

 To answer your question: there is no roadmap for
 1.4. We just began the
 'scheduled release' cycle with this release, and we
 are still trying to
 feel our way into the process and learn how much
 work we can accomplish
 in a release cycle. Once 1.4 is done, I expect we
 will be putting
 together a roadmap for 1.6, although given that the
 project gets a great
 deal of its code from volunteer contributions,
 putting something on a
 roadmap is in no way any guarantee that it will be
 part of that release.







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[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2006-02-22 Thread Olle E Johansson

Welcome to the Asterisk users community!


Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.

Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.

It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.

Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!

Meet you on the IRC channel, the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!

/oej


** Asterisk version information

At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the release version. The release version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current released version of Asterisk is 1.2.4. The release version
is fixed, we are adding no new functions and only changes it
when bugs are fixed.

The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.3 and will be the basis
for the next release version, version 1.4.

There are also a lot of development branches in our subversion
repository, hosting new functionality developed for testing by
you, the asterisk community.

For more information about these, please visit
http://www.voip-forum.com/index.php?p=189more=1


** The mailing list is growing

Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.

** Think before sending a message, think twice

I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.

If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your
apology than over your first message.

And please do not send out test messages to the list.

** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list

The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.

Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.

* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  You can download their new book from the web site or buy
  it from the bookstore.
* Asterisk Daily news is at
  http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
* VoIP-search (Asterisk mailing list etc)
  http://search.voip-forum.com

Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.

** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.

For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).

You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.

Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.

Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.

** Reporting bugs

If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.

Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2005-11-15 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!


Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.

These are exciting times for Asterisk, with a release candidate
for 1.2 out and a release hopefully coming soon. Check the new
features on http://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/

Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.

It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.

Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!

Meet you on the IRC channel, the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!

/oej

PS. There's also a new mailing list on lists.digium.com called
asterisk-i18n for discussion on Asterisk internationalization.
As soon as 1.2 is out of the door, let's meet there and discuss what
we can do to improve how Asterisk works in different languages
and character sets. Subscribe today if you want to participate!

** Asterisk version information

At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the release version. The release version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current released version of Asterisk is 1.0.9. The release version
is fixed, we are adding no new functions and only changes it
when bugs are fixed.

The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.1 and will be the basis
for the next release version, version 1.2. This version is to be
released any day now, and development will continue on the
1.3 version.

** The mailing list is growing

Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.

** Think before sending a message, think twice

I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.

If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your
apology than over your first message.

And please do not send out test messages to the list.

** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list

The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.

Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.

* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  You can download their new book from the web site or buy
  it from the bookstore.
* Asterisk Daily news is at
  http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
* VoIP-search (Asterisk mailing list etc)
  http://search.voip-forum.com

Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.

** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.

For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).

You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.

Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.

Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.

** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2005-07-18 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!


Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.

The next community meeting is Astricon in Anaheim, California
October 12-14, 2005. We are working with the conference agenda
- a call for speakers is out - and we already have a long list
of Asterisk speakers, including Mark Spencer - the creator
of Asterisk and Allison Smith - the voice of Asterisk!
* See http://www.astricon.net/2005/

Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.

It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.

Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!

Meet you on the IRC channel :-), the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!

/oej

** Asterisk version information

At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the release version. The release version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current released version of Asterisk is 1.0.9. The release version
is fixed, we are adding no new functions and only changes it
when bugs are fixed.

The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.1 and will be the basis
for the next release version, version 1.2. We will hopefully
soon reach a code freeze and start testing the stability
of version 1.1, so we will need your help.

** The mailing list is growing

Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.

** Think before sending a message, think twice

I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.

If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your
apology than over your first message.

And please do not send out test messages to the list.

** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list

The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.

Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.

* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
* Asterisk Daily news is at
  http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
* VoIP-search (Asterisk mailing list etc)
  http://search.voip-forum.com

Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.

** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.

For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).

You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.

Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.

Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.

** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2005-05-25 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!


Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.

The next community meeting is Astricon Europe in Madrid
June 15-17. The conference agenda is now published and we
have a lot of Asterisk speakers, including Mark Spencer
- the creator of Asterisk!
* See http://www.astricon.net/europe

Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.

It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.

Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!

Meet you on the IRC channel :-), the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!

/oej

** Asterisk version information

At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the release version. The release version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current released version of Asterisk is 1.0.7. The release version
is fixed, we are adding no new functions and only changes it
when bugs are fixed.

The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.1 and will be the basis
for the next release version, version 1.2. We will hopefully
soon reach a code freeze and start testing the stability
of version 1.1, so we will need your help.

** The mailing list is growing

Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.

** Think before sending a message, think twice

I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.

If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your
apology than over your first message.

And please do not send out test messages to the list.

** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list

The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.

Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.

* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
* Asterisk Daily news is at
  http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
* VoIP-search (Asterisk mailing list etc)
  http://search.voip-forum.com

Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.

** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.

For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).

You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.

Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.

Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.

** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2005-04-03 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!
Astricon Europe registration is new open!
http://www.astricon.net
Meet you on the IRC channel :-), the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!
/oej
** Asterisk version information
At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the stable version. The stable version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current stable version of Asterisk is 1.0.7. The stable version
contains no new functions and only changes when bugs are fixed.
The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.1 and will be the basis
for the next stable version, version 1.2. We will hopefully
soon reach a code freeze and start testing the stability
of version 1.1, so we will need your help.
** The mailing list is growing
Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your
apology than over your first message.
And please do not send out test messages to the list.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
* Asterisk Daily news is at
  http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
* VoIP-search (Asterisk mailing list etc)
  http://search.voip-forum.com
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.
Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2005-02-17 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every
day.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!
If you want to get up to speed quickly and plan to visit
the Voice on the Net conference in San Jose or live in
California, don't miss the Asterisk pavillion where you
will meet Digium and Digium partners. Also, on Friday
the 11th there will be a one-day Asterisk tutorial
called Meet Asterisk - http://www.astricon.net
Meet you on the IRC channel :-), the bug tracker or
on the mailing list!
/oej
** Asterisk version information
At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the stable version. The stable version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current stable version of Asterisk is 1.0.5. The stable version
contains no new functions and only changes when bugs are fixed.
The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
The development version is branded 1.1 and will be the basis
for the next stable version, version 1.2. We will hopefully
soon reach a code freeze and start testing the stability
of version 1.1, so we will need your help.
** The mailing list is growing
Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your 
apology than over your first message.

And please do not send out test messages to the list.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.
Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2005-01-26 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!
Meet you on the IRC channel :-)
/oej
** Asterisk version information
At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the stable version. The stable version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current stable version of Asterisk is 1.0.5. The stable version
contains no new functions and only changes when bugs are fixed.
The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
** The mailing list is growing
Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
than over your first message.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.
Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.
The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base.
This is how Asterisk grows, free contributions and consultants
that are paid to add functionality on a case by case basis.
** Be a community member - contribute!
The Asterisk software growth is very much based on user contributions.
That's 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-12-30 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
Again, welcome to the Asterisk.org Open Source PBX Project!
Meet you on the IRC channel :-)
...and a Happy New Asterisk-year!
/oej
** Asterisk version information
At this moment we have two current versions of Asterisk, the
developer version and the stable version. The stable version
is distributed as .tar.gz archives on several servers. The
current stable version of Asterisk is 1.0.3. The stable version
contains no new functions and only changes when bugs are fixed.
The development version is to be used by people that can test
new functions and live with bugs and unexpected shortcomings.
** The mailing list is growing
Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers on the -users list. This 
means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to 
thousands of mailboxes that are already flowing over with messages.
That's why we all need to follow some simple rules on how to use
the mailing list and the other tools that are available.

** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
than over your first message.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
Do not use this list as a secondary support line if you do
not get an answer on the -users list. It is meant for developer
discussions, not advanced support. If you need answers, there
is a better chance that you will get help on the irc channel.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services (asterisk-biz).
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated. If you are
unsure which list to use, send only to the -users list.
Make sure that you remove unnecessary text when you reply,
to make it easy to browse the mailing list quickly. And please
do not send HTML mail to a mailing list.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.
The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base.
This is how Asterisk grows, free contributions and consultants
that are paid to add functionality on a case by case basis.
** Be a community member - contribute!
The Asterisk software growth is very much 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-12-12 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
** The mailing list is growing
The lead programmer of Asterisk, Mark Spencer at Digium, inc, half a
year ago wrote:
The Asterisk community is growing at a remarkable pace.  I know there are
thousands of you out there -- in fact there are over eight *thousand*
subscribers to asterisk-users alone, and almost one *thousand* registered
users on the bug tracker.
Today, we propably have over 10,000 readers. This means that everything
anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to thousands of mailboxes
that is already flowing over with messages.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
than over your first message.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org project is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services.
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.
The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base.
This is how Asterisk grows, free contributions and consultants
that are paid to add functionality on a case by case basis.
** Be a community member - contribute!
The Asterisk software growth is very much based on user contributions.
That's really how we all pay for the software - and get revenue back.
If you develop custom functionality, you can rest assured that there
is someone out there that wants it, needs it and will be helped by it.
Don't forget to contribute. Open Source is both giving and taking.
The financial model behind it all is really cooperative in some way.
As one member to the community said to a contractor:
  Hey, I'm paying you to deliver code to me, then I'm giving it
   away to the community. How did this happen?
It's the Open Source business model. And if it didn't work, we
wouldn't have a lot of the software platforms that we all use
in our business systems - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL and
Asterisk.
** Remember: It's Open Source, it's voluntary
Asterisk.org is a Open Source project. This means you can't request
help from people, demand new functions or 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-08-16 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
** The mailing list is growing
The lead programmer of Asterisk, Mark Spencer at Digium, inc, recently wrote:
The Asterisk community is growing at a remarkable pace.  I know there are
thousands of you out there -- in fact there are over eight *thousand*
subscribers to asterisk-users alone, and almost one *thousand* registered
users on the bug tracker.
This means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to over
8.000 mailboxes that is already flowing over with messages.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
than over your first message.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org project is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
* The VoIP Search at
  http://search.voip-forum.com
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services.
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.
The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base.
This is how Asterisk grows, free contributions and consultants
that are paid to add functionality on a case by case basis.
** Be a community member - contribute!
The Asterisk software growth is very much based on user contributions.
That's really how we all pay for the software - and get revenue back.
If you develop custom functionality, you can rest assured that there
is someone out there that wants it, needs it and will be helped by it.
Don't forget to contribute. Open Source is both giving and taking.
The financial model behind it all is really cooperative in some way.
As one member to the community said to a contractor:
  Hey, I'm paying you to deliver code to me, then I'm giving it
   away to the community. How did this happen?
It's the Open Source business model. And if it didn't work, we
wouldn't have a lot of the software platforms that we all use
in our business systems - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL and
Asterisk.
** Remember: It's Open Source, it's voluntary
Asterisk.org is a Open Source project. This means you can't request
help from people, demand new functions or 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-22 Thread Walt Reed
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 01:28:50AM +0900, Sunrise Ltd said:
snip
 There is also some stuff that could be done automatically
 to keep the noise level down. For example ...
 
 - any post to the list with the digest in the subject line
 or the digest in the body, should be auto-rejected.
 
 - any post containing any kind of HTML, should be
 auto-rejected.

Agree 1000%. Any attachments other than PGP / SMIME signatures should be
rejected or stripped. If people want to post stuff, use a web or FTP
site and post a pointer.
 
 - any post containing with a very low new content to
 quotation ratio (ie 20 lines of quotation for a single
 line of new content) should have the quotation part
 automatically cut to size (ie no more than 5 lines of
 quotation per single line of new content apparently
 responding to that quotation)
snip

Rather than cutting quoted material automagically, if the system just
rejected any post with multiple copies of the mailing list footer that
would go a LONG way towards improving etiquette. Refering users to RFC
1855 may be helpful as well.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-22 Thread steve
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Walt Reed wrote:

 Agree 1000%. Any attachments other than PGP / SMIME signatures should be
 rejected or stripped. If people want to post stuff, use a web or FTP
 site and post a pointer.

Sounds good to me, except - what about ascii attachments of logs, etc.  
When searching the archives for references to a problem it's often useful 
to see the relevent logs which may since have been removed from someone's 
own website.

- -- 

 - Steve Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.nexusuk.org/

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-22 Thread Kevin Walsh
Walt Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 01:28:50AM +0900, Sunrise Ltd said:
 snip
  There is also some stuff that could be done automatically
  to keep the noise level down. For example ...
  
  - any post to the list with the digest in the subject line
  or the digest in the body, should be auto-rejected.
  
  - any post containing any kind of HTML, should be
  auto-rejected.
 
 Agree 1000%. Any attachments other than PGP / SMIME signatures should be
 rejected or stripped. If people want to post stuff, use a web or FTP site
 and post a pointer. 
 
I wouldn't even allow those.  This is not a repository for legal
documents, so signatures are irrelevant.


 Rather than cutting quoted material automagically, if the system just
 rejected any post with multiple copies of the mailing list footer that
 would go a LONG way towards improving etiquette.

Agreed.  There are just too many lazy people in the world.  Anything
that helps to give them a well-deserved slap can only be good.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-22 Thread Walt Reed
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:09:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Walt Reed wrote:
 
  Agree 1000%. Any attachments other than PGP / SMIME signatures should be
  rejected or stripped. If people want to post stuff, use a web or FTP
  site and post a pointer.
 
 Sounds good to me, except - what about ascii attachments of logs, etc.  
 When searching the archives for references to a problem it's often useful 
 to see the relevent logs which may since have been removed from someone's 
 own website.

Good point. Maybe check the mime types and have a select few that are
allowed. I'm a little leary on this though - if someone attaches a large
log instead of a snippit, it gets multiplied 50,000 times. Maybe a size
check on attachments. That also allows for reasonable patches and such,
but the bug DB is a better place for that stuff anyway.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-22 Thread Jay Milk
Are we on this again?  How about letting the list-owner(s) decide what's
appropriate here, rather than wasting bandwidth discussing what you guys
think is proper list-etiquette.  Some people differ from your opinions
and their reasons are just as valid as yours.

What gets me is that people with signatures like this:
-- 
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_/   _/  _/_/_/_/  _/_/_/_/  _/_/

are talking about well deserved slaps and telling others what not to
do.  The noive.

 -Original Message-
 From: Walt Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:36 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK 
 COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:09:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Walt Reed wrote:
  
   Agree 1000%. Any attachments other than PGP / SMIME signatures
   should be rejected or stripped. If people want to post 
 stuff, use a
   web or FTP site and post a pointer.
  
  Sounds good to me, except - what about ascii attachments of
 logs, etc.
  When searching the archives for references to a problem
 it's often useful
  to see the relevent logs which may since have been removed
 from someone's
  own website.
 
 Good point. Maybe check the mime types and have a select few
 that are allowed. I'm a little leary on this though - if 
 someone attaches a large log instead of a snippit, it gets 
 multiplied 50,000 times. Maybe a size check on attachments. 
 That also allows for reasonable patches and such, but the bug 
 DB is a better place for that stuff anyway. 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-22 Thread Walt Reed
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 10:52:11AM -0500, Jay Milk said:
 Are we on this again?  How about letting the list-owner(s) decide what's
 appropriate here, rather than wasting bandwidth discussing what you guys
 think is proper list-etiquette.  Some people differ from your opinions
 and their reasons are just as valid as yours.

The problem is that the community is growing. It's no longer a few guys
in their basement playing with phones. The mailing list volume is
growing right along with it. You have to remember that this mailing list
is one of the few real support channels that exist for *. The S/N ratio
is getting pretty bad. Most of us don't have the time to spend all day
long to sort the wheat from the chaff.  The lack of good ettiquette has
destroyed the digest version of this list, and the archives are close
behind. How is a noob going to research before posting when the list is
full of crap, threads are broken by lazy outlook users, etc?

A few bytes spent urging the list admin to become more proactive in
improving the quality of ths list is a great investment if the end
result is an improvement in the content and usability of this list. I
realize he's probably overworked and has a bazillion other things to do,
but this really is a problem that needs to get fixed for the good of the
community. I've seen what happens to mailing lists that degenerate like
this one is. I would prefer that this not happen with *-users.

FYI, one typical post by an apathetic user who doesn't trim probably uses
more bandwidth than this entire thread.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-22 Thread Kevin Walsh
Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are we on this again?  How about letting the list-owner(s) decide what's
 appropriate here, rather than wasting bandwidth discussing what you guys
 think is proper list-etiquette.  Some people differ from your opinions
 and their reasons are just as valid as yours.
 
 What gets me is that people with signatures like this:
 
 [snip: same as below]

 are talking about well deserved slaps and telling others what not to
 do.  The noive.

My signature is 4 lines long and starts with a valid signature marker
(-- ).  I don't like long signatures that stretch into hundreds of
lines (Best regards, name, address telephone, fax, mobile, cat's name
etc.) but I see nothing wrong with a 4-line signature.

You may want to check with RFC1855 (Netiquette Guidelines), which
says If you include a signature keep it short.  Rule of thumb is no
longer than 4 lines.  In fact, you should read it anyway, because
you clearly don't know (or care) how to quote in context.

(Lazily top-posted original message deleted).

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[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-21 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
** The mailing list is growing
The lead programmer of Asterisk, Mark Spencer at Digium, inc, recently wrote:
The Asterisk community is growing at a remarkable pace.  I know there are
thousands of you out there -- in fact there are over eight *thousand*
subscribers to asterisk-users alone, and almost one *thousand* registered
users on the bug tracker.
This means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to over
8.000 mailboxes that is already flowing over with messages.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
than over your first message.
** Looking for or offering a commercial service?
Use the asterisk-biz list for discussions on who offers what and
for offering your business services.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org project is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services.
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.
The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base.
This is how Asterisk grows, free contributions and consultants
that are paid to add functionality on a case by case basis.
** Be a community member - contribute!
The Asterisk software growth is very much based on user contributions.
That's really how we all pay for the software - and get revenue back.
If you develop custom functionality, you can rest assured that there
is someone out there that wants it, needs it and will be helped by it.
Don't forget to contribute. Open Source is both giving and taking.
The financial model behind it all is really cooperative in some way.
As one member to the community said to a contractor:
  Hey, I'm paying you to deliver code to me, then I'm giving it
   away to the community. How did this happen?
It's the Open Source business model. And if it didn't work, we
wouldn't have a lot of the software platforms that we all use
in our business systems - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL and
Asterisk.
** Remember: It's Open Source, it's voluntary
Asterisk.org is a 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-21 Thread James H. Thompson
I am on many mailing lists and lots of them have similar problems with people posting 
messages they
could better answer themselves.
Since many of these messages are from people posting for the first time,
I think to some degree this is a failing of the mailing list structure itself.

I've wondered if a mechanism like this would help:
For the first N messages you post to the mailing list, your post does not 
automatically get
posted.
Instead you get a message similar to Olle's below, ending with something like:

If you still want to send your message to the mailing list, just reply to 
this message



Jim

James H. Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: Olle E. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Users Asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:40 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *


 Welcome to the Asterisk users community!
 

 Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
 Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
 with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.

 Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
 of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.

 It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
 - building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
 remember while working with the project.

 ** The mailing list is growing

 The lead programmer of Asterisk, Mark Spencer at Digium, inc, recently wrote:
  The Asterisk community is growing at a remarkable pace.  I know there are
  thousands of you out there -- in fact there are over eight *thousand*
  subscribers to asterisk-users alone, and almost one *thousand* registered
  users on the bug tracker.

 This means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to over
 8.000 mailboxes that is already flowing over with messages.

 ** Think before sending a message, think twice

 I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
 message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
 If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
 will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
 send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
 we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
 than over your first message.

 ** Looking for or offering a commercial service?

 Use the asterisk-biz list for discussions on who offers what and
 for offering your business services.

 ** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list

 The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org project is an important
 knowledge base for the project.

 Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
 archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
 go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
 around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.

 * IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
 * There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
page at http://www.asterisk.org
 * The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
 * The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
well worth reading.

 Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.

 ** Mailing lists
 For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
 For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
 list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
 for those that want to ask for commercial services and
 inform their community about new services.

 You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
 site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.

 Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
 lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
 and get people that read both lists irritated.

 ** Reporting bugs
 If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
 Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
 go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
 If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
 you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.

 Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
 often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
 making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
 down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.

 The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
 to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
 give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base

Re: [Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-07-21 Thread Sunrise Ltd
James H. Thompson wrote:
(B
(BI've wondered if a mechanism like this would help:
(BFor the first N messages you post to the mailing list,
(Byour post does not automatically get posted.
(BInstead you get a message similar to Olle's below,
(Bending with something like:
(B
(B "If you still want to send your message to
(B  the mailing list, just reply to this message"
(B
(BThis might cause more harm than it does good. However, I
(Bcan see no harm in sending an auto-reply to each newbie
(Bposter (for the first n messages) that asks something like
(B"Did you read the rules?" in the subject line containing
(B'the rules of conduct" for the list in the body, but
(Bwithout the "reply to confirm your post" thing.
(B
(BThere is also some stuff that could be done automatically
(Bto keep the noise level down. For example ...
(B
(B- any post to the list with the digest in the subject line
(Bor the digest in the body, should be auto-rejected.
(B
(B- any post containing any kind of HTML, should be
(Bauto-rejected.
(B
(B- any post containing with a very low new content to
(Bquotation ratio (ie 20 lines of quotation for a single
(Bline of new content) should have the quotation part
(Bautomatically cut to size (ie no more than 5 lines of
(Bquotation per single line of new content apparently
(Bresponding to that quotation)
(B
(BNote: if it is essential that the quotation is left uncut
(Bin the resulting post, the responding poster would have to
(Buse markup to indicate that the quotation should not be
(Bstripped nor cut. For example:
(B
(B--===[LONG QUOTATION]===---
(B
(B very long quotation not to be touched by the ML engine
(B
(B--===[/LONG QUOTATION]===---
(B
(BThis would cut down on excessive laziness quoting.
(B
(BIt would also be possible to rate each poster's posting
(Bquality and send the results to the list every week or
(Bmonth. There is a utility that can be used to assess how
(Bmuch new content somebody posted and how much quoting
(Bposts contained. The utility is called style and has been
(Baround for ages, since Bell Labs' early Unix releases.
(B
(BOf course all this requires a bit of work to do and thus
(Btime we all have so little of.
(B
(BBut at the very least the mailing list's mail host should
(Bbe configured to reject anything that contains HTML. This
(Bis fairly easy to do and it would go a long distance.
(B
(Brgds
(Bbenjk
(B
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[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-06-29 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
** The mailing list is growing
The lead programmer of Asterisk, Mark Spencer at Digium, inc, recently wrote:
The Asterisk community is growing at a remarkable pace.  I know there are
thousands of you out there -- in fact there are over eight *thousand*
subscribers to asterisk-users alone, and almost one *thousand* registered
users on the bug tracker.
This means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to over
8.000 mailboxes that is already flowing over with messages.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
than over your first message.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org project is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list, asterisk-dev.
For BSD users (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and OS/X) there's a
list called asterisk-bsd. There is also a business list
for those that want to ask for commercial services and
inform their community about new services.
You'll find all lists on http://lists.digium.com, which is the
site where you manage your subscription to this list as well.
Please, do not crosspost the same message to multiple mailing
lists. It will not help you, it will only add to the mail flow
and get people that read both lists irritated.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.
The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base.
This is how Asterisk grows, free contributions and consultants
that are paid to add functionality on a case by case basis.
** Be a community member - contribute!
The Asterisk software growth is very much based on user contributions.
That's really how we all pay for the software - and get revenue back.
If you develop custom functionality, you can rest assured that there
is someone out there that wants it, needs it and will be helped by it.
Don't forget to contribute. Open Source is both giving and taking.
The financial model behind it all is really cooperative in some way.
As one member to the community said to a contractor:
  Hey, I'm paying you to deliver code to me, then I'm giving it
   away to the community. How did this happen?
It's the Open Source business model. And if it didn't work, we
wouldn't have a lot of the software platforms that we all use
in our business systems - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL and
Asterisk.
** Remember: It's Open Source, it's voluntary
Asterisk.org is a Open Source project. This means you can't request
help from people, demand new functions or support. However, there
are many individuals and companies 

[Asterisk-Users] * INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ASTERISK COMMUNITY - PLEASE READ NOW *

2004-05-26 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Welcome to the Asterisk users community!

Asterisk.org is a fast moving project. New code is added every day.
Asterisk is the leading Open Source Telephony platform,
with support both for classical telephony and IP telephony.
Our community is also growing fast and we're having a lot
of interaction, on the IRC and on the mailing lists.
It's great to have you participating in this Open Source project
- building an Open Source PBX. Here are a few things to know and
remember while working with the project.
** The mailing list is growing
The lead programmer of Asterisk, Mark Spencer at Digium, inc, recently wrote:
The Asterisk community is growing at a remarkable pace.  I know there are
thousands of you out there -- in fact there are over eight *thousand*
subscribers to asterisk-users alone, and almost one *thousand* registered
users on the bug tracker.
This means that everything anyone write to this mailing list, is sent to over
8.000 mailboxes that is already flowing over with messages.
** Think before sending a message, think twice
I would like to stress the fact that you have to think before you send a
message to such a big list. Do *not* send out personal replies on the list.
If you offer services to someone, do *not* CC: or reply to the list, it
will annoy more potential customers than get you new customers. If you
send out a message by mistake, you don't have to apologize to all of us,
we understand you're embarassed. We will get more annoyed by your apology
than over your first message.
** Try finding the answer first, then ask the list
The Asterisk Wiki at http://www.voip-info.org project is an important
knowledge base for the project.
Go there to find your answer first, then search the mailing list
archives (Google or http://search.voip-forum.com) and then
go to the IRC channel. The IRC channel is populated with Asterisk gurus
around the clock (literally) and they'll help you move forward.
* IRC info: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support#irc
* There's many links to Asterisk web pages on the documentation
  page at http://www.asterisk.org
* The Asterisk FAQ is found on the wiki
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+FAQ
* The Asterisk documentation project (which needs your help)
  is at http://www.asteriskdocs.org
  Their handbook The hitchhiker's guide to Asterisk is already
  well worth reading.
Finally, if you don't find the answer elsewhere, try the list.
** Mailing lists
For developers, there is a developer's list. You'll find it
on http://lists.digium.com, which is the address where you manage
your subscription to this list as well. Please, do not crosspost
the same message to multiple mailing lists. It will not help you,
it will only add to the mail flow and get people that read both
lists irritated.
** Reporting bugs
If you think you have found a bug, report it. We need bug reports.
Read this document http://www.digium.com/bugtracker.html and then
go to the bugtracker http://bugs.digium.com to file a report.
If you are unsure, find a bug marshal on the IRC channel to help
you. They're appointed to support you with how to handle bugs.
Please check the bugtracker thoroughly before posting a new bug;
often, your bug or feature already exists but is simply slowly
making it's way through the system.  Duplicate reports slow things
down for everyone, so please spend a few minutes searching first.
The bug tracker is also a place where you add your contribution
to Asterisk. If you have coded extra functionality, make sure you
give it back to the project so it can be added to the code base.
This is how Asterisk grows, free contributions and consultants
that are paid to add functionality on a case by case basis.
** Be a community member
The Asterisk software growth is very much based on user contributions.
That's really how we all pay for the software - and get revenue back.
If you develop custom functionality, you can rest assured that there
is someone out there that wants it, needs it and will be helped by it.
Don't forget to contribute. Open Source is both giving and taking.
The financial model behind it all is really cooperative in some way.
As one member to the community said to a contractor:
  Hey, I'm paying you to deliver code to me, then I'm giving it
   away to the community. How did this happen?
It's the Open Source business model. And if it didn't work, we
wouldn't have a lot of the software platforms that we all use
in our business systems - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL and
Asterisk.
** Remember: It's Open Source, it's voluntary
Asterisk.org is a Open Source project. This means you can't request
help from people, demand new functions or support. However, there
are many individuals and companies out there that are offering
services based on Asterisk, from VoIP service providers to
consultants all over the world.
Of course, this is also part of Digium's business, so you have
plenty of help if your willing to pay. Digium is to be found at