Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk IPv6 update - we need an update

2010-01-31 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 14:29, Sat 30 Jan 10, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
 Friends,
 
 Before the Christmas holidays, I did send this letter and did not get a lot 
 of response, but some. Since then, I've been able to get interest from a few 
 parties that are willing to fund parts of this work, including Digium, the 
 main sponsor of Asterisk. I will also apply for additional funding from a 
 foundation here in Sweden and hope to get some more responses so that we can 
 fund this project together. If anyone out there has interest or feedback 
 regarding IPv6, Asterisk and VoIP, I'll be happy to get in contact.
 
 I've documented some of my thoughts on how to proceed, based on the work 
 already done by Marc Blanchet (and of course work together with him) on my 
 blog, http://www.voip-forum.com/asterisk/2010-01/voip-users-care-ipv6/
 
 My hope is that we can get this done and integrated in Asterisk 1.8, but that 
 requires some immediate attention from the community, as well as help with 
 testing and feedback when we start rolling. Marcs code is already out there, 
 so you can start testing NOW in your IPv6-enabled network. 
 http://www.asteriskv6.org/
 
 IPv6 is a boring topic, and if you do it right, no one will thank you for it. 
 It just needs to be done. My work with IPv6 started the summer of 1995 and 
 since then people have been shouting We need to migrate now!. We've done 
 that so long so that no one listens any more and now it's getting really 
 critical. The IP numbering authorities, like ARIN and RIPE, have already 
 outlined how they will have to change procedures for IPv4 assignments every 
 six months from now, making it harder and harder to get addresses. For VoIP - 
 sip trunks, calling each other across the Internet, it's critical to have 
 public IP addresses unless you want to stay with your lovely Telco on the 
 other end of the copper cables. 
 
 Personally, I'm not sure how to design software for this migration properly. 
 In order to educate myself and collegues that develop and build SIP 
 solutions, I'm going to organize an event this spring which combines testing 
 and training. I do hope that the Asterisk community will join me and support 
 the developer team in our efforts to make Asterisk - the leading Open Source 
 PBX -  running perfectly well on both IPv4 and IPv6 networks.  It needs to be 
 done, we will get it done. And no one will thank us for it, since everyone 
 just expects Asterisk to work as we have done for the last 10 years...
 
 With IPv6 greetings!

Says he, who sent this mail over a pure IPv4 network.
Not a single IPv6 hop in the path. tsk tsk tsk.

Like I said before, I'm really interested in this, and have a couple of
ipv6 boxen with asterisk on it. I also have some credits with sixxs.net
so I can provide at least 1 subnet for testing.

Money on the other hand is a totally different issue. Cant provide that.
sorry.

 
 /Olle
 
 
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  Datum: 17 december 2009 09.39.40 CET
  Till: Asterisk Non-Commercial Discussion Users Mailing List - 
  asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  ?mne: [asterisk-users] Asterisk IPv6 update - we need an update
  Svara till: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
  asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  
  Friends,
  
  At the first Astricon I was very happy to see Marc Blanchet as one of the 
  attendees. I knew he was one of the IPv6 gurus and I wanted someone to show 
  some interest in Asterisk and IPv6. 
  
  Well, he did not only get interested in it, but started coding on it. The 
  results have been available for quite some time at 
  http://www.asteriskv6.org/ and Marc has tested it at several SIPits for 
  interoperability.
  
  This patch is very large and affects large areas of Asterisk. In order to 
  support IPv6, we need to update the way we interact with sockets, with DNS, 
  with URI's. The SIP channel needs to handle multiple UDP as well as TCP 
  sockets in both protocols. The ACL's we use for all VoIP protocols and 
  manager needs support for IPv6. And much more. 
  
  Marc hasn't been able to spend time to keep it up to date with the 
  everchanging trunk. 
  
  I feel we need to move this forward and try to divide the large patch into 
  smaller pieces that can be reviewed separately by the developer team and  
  be merged gradually. First, Marcs branch needs a serious overhaul to get up 
  to date with trunk. In order to work on this, Marc and I needs funding. 
  
  I have a few interested parties, but need more interested parties that can 
  commit to funding during the first half of 2010 for this project.  It's not 
  a small task, the current estimate is at least one month's work for each of 
  us for updating, cutting it up, merging, going through the review process, 
  testing and finalizing with new tests at SIPit or a similar event.
  
  If your organization is interested, please let me know off list and we'll 
  discuss from there. My e-mail

Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk IPv6 update - we need an update

2010-01-31 Thread Olle E. Johansson

30 jan 2010 kl. 23.40 skrev Michiel van Baak:

 On 14:29, Sat 30 Jan 10, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
 Friends,
 
 Before the Christmas holidays, I did send this letter and did not get a lot 
 of response, but some. Since then, I've been able to get interest from a few 
 parties that are willing to fund parts of this work, including Digium, the 
 main sponsor of Asterisk. I will also apply for additional funding from a 
 foundation here in Sweden and hope to get some more responses so that we can 
 fund this project together. If anyone out there has interest or feedback 
 regarding IPv6, Asterisk and VoIP, I'll be happy to get in contact.
 
 I've documented some of my thoughts on how to proceed, based on the work 
 already done by Marc Blanchet (and of course work together with him) on my 
 blog, http://www.voip-forum.com/asterisk/2010-01/voip-users-care-ipv6/
 
 My hope is that we can get this done and integrated in Asterisk 1.8, but 
 that requires some immediate attention from the community, as well as help 
 with testing and feedback when we start rolling. Marcs code is already out 
 there, so you can start testing NOW in your IPv6-enabled network. 
 http://www.asteriskv6.org/
 
 IPv6 is a boring topic, and if you do it right, no one will thank you for 
 it. It just needs to be done. My work with IPv6 started the summer of 1995 
 and since then people have been shouting We need to migrate now!. We've 
 done that so long so that no one listens any more and now it's getting 
 really critical. The IP numbering authorities, like ARIN and RIPE, have 
 already outlined how they will have to change procedures for IPv4 
 assignments every six months from now, making it harder and harder to get 
 addresses. For VoIP - sip trunks, calling each other across the Internet, 
 it's critical to have public IP addresses unless you want to stay with your 
 lovely Telco on the other end of the copper cables. 
 
 Personally, I'm not sure how to design software for this migration properly. 
 In order to educate myself and collegues that develop and build SIP 
 solutions, I'm going to organize an event this spring which combines testing 
 and training. I do hope that the Asterisk community will join me and support 
 the developer team in our efforts to make Asterisk - the leading Open Source 
 PBX -  running perfectly well on both IPv4 and IPv6 networks.  It needs to 
 be done, we will get it done. And no one will thank us for it, since 
 everyone just expects Asterisk to work as we have done for the last 10 
 years...
 
 With IPv6 greetings!
 
 Says he, who sent this mail over a pure IPv4 network.
 Not a single IPv6 hop in the path. tsk tsk tsk.
EXACTLY! It's embarrasing.
Everytime I turn on IPv6 in my local network, some application break. This is 
why I want to start fixing this!


 
 Like I said before, I'm really interested in this, and have a couple of
 ipv6 boxen with asterisk on it. I also have some credits with sixxs.net
 so I can provide at least 1 subnet for testing.
We'll make sure you get involved, don't worry. ;-)

/O
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk IPv6 update - we need an update

2010-01-30 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Friends,

Before the Christmas holidays, I did send this letter and did not get a lot of 
response, but some. Since then, I've been able to get interest from a few 
parties that are willing to fund parts of this work, including Digium, the main 
sponsor of Asterisk. I will also apply for additional funding from a foundation 
here in Sweden and hope to get some more responses so that we can fund this 
project together. If anyone out there has interest or feedback regarding IPv6, 
Asterisk and VoIP, I'll be happy to get in contact.

I've documented some of my thoughts on how to proceed, based on the work 
already done by Marc Blanchet (and of course work together with him) on my 
blog, http://www.voip-forum.com/asterisk/2010-01/voip-users-care-ipv6/

My hope is that we can get this done and integrated in Asterisk 1.8, but that 
requires some immediate attention from the community, as well as help with 
testing and feedback when we start rolling. Marcs code is already out there, so 
you can start testing NOW in your IPv6-enabled network. 
http://www.asteriskv6.org/

IPv6 is a boring topic, and if you do it right, no one will thank you for it. 
It just needs to be done. My work with IPv6 started the summer of 1995 and 
since then people have been shouting We need to migrate now!. We've done that 
so long so that no one listens any more and now it's getting really critical. 
The IP numbering authorities, like ARIN and RIPE, have already outlined how 
they will have to change procedures for IPv4 assignments every six months from 
now, making it harder and harder to get addresses. For VoIP - sip trunks, 
calling each other across the Internet, it's critical to have public IP 
addresses unless you want to stay with your lovely Telco on the other end of 
the copper cables. 

Personally, I'm not sure how to design software for this migration properly. In 
order to educate myself and collegues that develop and build SIP solutions, I'm 
going to organize an event this spring which combines testing and training. I 
do hope that the Asterisk community will join me and support the developer team 
in our efforts to make Asterisk - the leading Open Source PBX -  running 
perfectly well on both IPv4 and IPv6 networks.  It needs to be done, we will 
get it done. And no one will thank us for it, since everyone just expects 
Asterisk to work as we have done for the last 10 years...

With IPv6 greetings!

/Olle


Vidarebefordrat brev:

 Från: Olle E. Johansson o...@edvina.net
 Datum: 17 december 2009 09.39.40 CET
 Till: Asterisk Non-Commercial Discussion Users Mailing List - 
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Ämne: [asterisk-users] Asterisk IPv6 update - we need an update
 Svara till: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 
 Friends,
 
 At the first Astricon I was very happy to see Marc Blanchet as one of the 
 attendees. I knew he was one of the IPv6 gurus and I wanted someone to show 
 some interest in Asterisk and IPv6. 
 
 Well, he did not only get interested in it, but started coding on it. The 
 results have been available for quite some time at http://www.asteriskv6.org/ 
 and Marc has tested it at several SIPits for interoperability.
 
 This patch is very large and affects large areas of Asterisk. In order to 
 support IPv6, we need to update the way we interact with sockets, with DNS, 
 with URI's. The SIP channel needs to handle multiple UDP as well as TCP 
 sockets in both protocols. The ACL's we use for all VoIP protocols and 
 manager needs support for IPv6. And much more. 
 
 Marc hasn't been able to spend time to keep it up to date with the 
 everchanging trunk. 
 
 I feel we need to move this forward and try to divide the large patch into 
 smaller pieces that can be reviewed separately by the developer team and  be 
 merged gradually. First, Marcs branch needs a serious overhaul to get up to 
 date with trunk. In order to work on this, Marc and I needs funding. 
 
 I have a few interested parties, but need more interested parties that can 
 commit to funding during the first half of 2010 for this project.  It's not a 
 small task, the current estimate is at least one month's work for each of us 
 for updating, cutting it up, merging, going through the review process, 
 testing and finalizing with new tests at SIPit or a similar event.
 
 If your organization is interested, please let me know off list and we'll 
 discuss from there. My e-mail is as always o...@edvina.net. Please don't 
 hesitate to mail me with any questions you might have about this project.
 
 Thank you for your support.
 
 Best regards,
 /Olle


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[asterisk-users] Asterisk IPv6 update - we need an update

2009-12-17 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Friends,

At the first Astricon I was very happy to see Marc Blanchet as one of the 
attendees. I knew he was one of the IPv6 gurus and wanted someone to show some 
interest in Asterisk and IPv6. 

Well, he did not only get interested in it, but started coding on it. The 
results have been available for quite some time at http://www.asteriskv6.org/ 
and Marc has tested it at several SIPits for interoperability.

This patch is very large and affects large areas of Asterisk. In order to 
support IPv6, we need to update the way we interact with sockets, with DNS, 
with URI's. The SIP channel needs to handle multiple UDP as well as TCP sockets 
in both protocols. The ACL's we use for all VoIP protocols and manager needs 
support for IPv6. And much more. 

Marc hasn't been able to spend time to keep it up to date with the everchanging 
trunk. 

I feel we need to move this forward and try to divide the large patch into 
smaller pieces that can be reviewed separately by the developer team and  be 
merged gradually. First, Marcs branch needs a serious overhaul to get up to 
date with trunk. In order to work on this, Marc and I needs funding. 

I have a few interested parties, but need more interested parties that can 
commit to funding during the first half of 2010 for this project.  It's not a 
small task, the current estimate is at least one month's work for each of us 
for updating, cutting it up, merging, going through the review process, testing 
and finalizing with new tests at SIPit or a similar event.

If your organization is interested, please let me know off list and we'll 
discuss from there. My e-mail is as always o...@edvina.net. Please don't 
hesitate to mail me with any questions you might have about this project.

Thank you for your support.

Best regards,
/Olle
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