Re: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-14 Thread Tom Rymes


On Nov 14, 2005, at 2:50 AM, Dinesh wrote:

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On Nov 14, 2005, at 12:37 AM, ram wrote:


Hi

its not legal in india
connecting to PSTN to VOIP

ram


Asterisk doesn't necessarily mean VOIP. He could set it up using ZAP
channels only and not have any VOIP in use at all.

Tom


Its illegal to interconnect it to the local pstn (from abroad).

Dinesh.


I still don't see how this would stop him from using no VOIP  
protocols and plugging it in to the PSTN. Just use Asterisk as a PBX,  
no VOIP, no bypassing the Indian telephone monopoly (assuming that  
there is one).


Tom

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-14 Thread Dean Collins
There are a number of asterisk implementations in India.

Cheers,
Dean


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  On Nov 14, 2005, at 12:37 AM, ram wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  its not legal in india
  connecting to PSTN to VOIP
 
  ram
 
  Asterisk doesn't necessarily mean VOIP. He could set it up using
ZAP
  channels only and not have any VOIP in use at all.
 
  Tom
 
  Its illegal to interconnect it to the local pstn (from abroad).
 
  Dinesh.
 
 I still don't see how this would stop him from using no VOIP
 protocols and plugging it in to the PSTN. Just use Asterisk as a PBX,
 no VOIP, no bypassing the Indian telephone monopoly (assuming that
 there is one).
 
 Tom
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Austin
 Its illegal to interconnect it to the local pstn (from abroad).

 Dinesh.

 I still don't see how this would stop him from using no VOIP  
 protocols and plugging it in to the PSTN. Just use Asterisk as a PBX,

 no VOIP, no bypassing the Indian telephone monopoly (assuming that  
 there is one).
Actually there are several.  It might not make much sense to you,
we either for that matter, but it is illegal.  To the point that
plugging in a system capable of VoIP, but not used for VoIP can get
you in trouble.

I needed to install a system in India and worked with the Telcos to
see if I could install a local-use only system.  We were offered the
option of buying a $24,000 license, which could be revoked at anytime
for any reason.  No one could tell us if we would need to renew
annually,
or if the license fees were refundable if the law changed.

So what makes sense to you and I had no bearing in India, and the 
rules don't look like they'll be changing anytime soon.

Dan
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-14 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 12:15 -0500, Dean Collins wrote:
 There are a number of asterisk implementations in India.

And the commercial ones are finally legal..  Right about the time they
arrest some guys running a VoIP shop they make it legal, all in the same
week.  Biggest concern india appears to have now are wiretapping (cant
tap an illegal network) and revenue (the bust that happened the gov was
complaining about all the lost revenue).


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-14 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 09:18 -0800, Dan Austin wrote:
  Its illegal to interconnect it to the local pstn (from abroad).
 
  Dinesh.
 
  I still don't see how this would stop him from using no VOIP  
  protocols and plugging it in to the PSTN. Just use Asterisk as a PBX,
 
  no VOIP, no bypassing the Indian telephone monopoly (assuming that  
  there is one).
 Actually there are several.  It might not make much sense to you,
 we either for that matter, but it is illegal.  To the point that
 plugging in a system capable of VoIP, but not used for VoIP can get
 you in trouble.

That law just changed, or so the news blubs indicated.  

The bust (same week as the changes I read about)
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=160798cat=India

UPI reports that india changed stuff in their laws now
http://www.physorg.com/news8123.html

I didnt read the article in full before (and didnt read *that* article
specifically).  Its legal for outside india, if you want to call inside
india you have to use the regular telco stuff, but with the entry fees
being lowered that monopoly may be challenged.

For the most part it was quasi-legal, on the books as illegal but rarely
enforced, although for the one call shop it seems that it did get
enforced there ...

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-14 Thread Mark Elkins
I can not see that its illegal to have Asterisk in India. The TDM400P
card should work fine - but it may not be approved to be interconnected
to the phone system. (This never stopped me doing similar things).

I'm assuming that its possible to connect a 2-wire phone to the Indian
phone system - ie - if you have ever bought a 2-wire phone from the USA
and got it to work - then there should be no problem. In the UK - BT use
a 3-wire system, the extra wire for ringing a bell... but actually
provide 2-wire to the house. People seem to have little difficulty with
the TDM400 there. I've had no problems all over Africa - you should be
fine.

Asterisk makes a great (cost wise) and highly functional PABX
replacement. This in itself is reason to install Asterisk.

The fact that it does VoIP as well is an additional bonus - just don't
get caught using it?

Up until the beginning of this year, VoIP was illegal in South Africa -
never stopped most people. It is possible for telco's to monitor and
even recognise and record 'voice' on the internet - but they usually
look for common Codecs (u-law, a-law) and probably have better things to
do. 


On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 15:50 +0800, Dinesh wrote:
 
 Its illegal to interconnect it to the local pstn (from abroad). 
 
 Dinesh.
 
 
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 On Nov 14, 2005, at 12:37 AM, ram wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  its not legal in india
  connecting to PSTN to VOIP
 
  ram
 
 Asterisk doesn't necessarily mean VOIP. He could set it up using ZAP  
 channels only and not have any VOIP in use at all.
 
 Tom
 
 
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[Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-13 Thread Amith


Hi all,
   i'm new to this list, and amazed with
Asterisk. I  wanted some information about the Digium
cards. I need these cards to connect to the PSTN from
home. All i need is to connect to the PSTN and have
one more port for connecting my land line (local)
phone, please advise me on what i should buy to get
this functionality on to my PC running Asterisk. a 2
PORT card is what i'm looking at but i dont mind
buying a 4 port one too.

 I would also like to know whether someone on
this list from India have tried connecting to the PSTN
usng Digium cards. If yes, please give me the card
details i should buy.

thanks for you time.

cheers,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-13 Thread ram
Hi

its not legal in india
connecting to PSTN to VOIP

ram
On 11/14/05, Amith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-13 Thread Tom Rymes

On Nov 14, 2005, at 12:37 AM, ram wrote:


Hi

its not legal in india
connecting to PSTN to VOIP

ram


Asterisk doesn't necessarily mean VOIP. He could set it up using ZAP  
channels only and not have any VOIP in use at all.


Tom


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-13 Thread Amith

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:07:36 +0530
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from
India ?.


Hi
 its not legal in india
connecting to PSTN to VOIP
 ram


Ok , but i'm using it for experiments , maybe inside
an office where i plan to connect it to PBX of my
office. please let me know whether TDM400P would work
for me. 





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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Anybody tried it from India ?.

2005-11-13 Thread Dinesh


Its illegal to interconnect it to the local pstn (from abroad). 

Dinesh.


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On Nov 14, 2005, at 12:37 AM, ram wrote:

 Hi

 its not legal in india
 connecting to PSTN to VOIP

 ram

Asterisk doesn't necessarily mean VOIP. He could set it up using ZAP  
channels only and not have any VOIP in use at all.

Tom


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