Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Logan wrote: Hi everyone! Okay. I was reading on the voip-info.org about FXO and FXS. Is it possible just to get a card with FXO and FXS together? I know Digium sells them, but as I've said, I'm looking to spend too much. Thanks for everyone's input! Logan. FXO is easy, but FXS is more expensive. You'll likely need two cards (one for each). You can get $10 FXO cards on ebay, but something seems to be buggy as heck with those. I have problems with them nearly daily which requires reboots. You could try finding an Internet Phonejack (I think that's the FXS one). I bought one a while ago and it wasn't too expensive (compared to the Digium stuff). Not sure if the company exists any more. Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Hi everyone! Okay. I was reading on the voip-info.org about FXO and FXS. Is it possible just to get a card with FXO and FXS together? I know Digium sells them, but as I've said, I'm looking to spend too much. Thanks for everyone's input! Logan. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Hi, the best thing to do is get a Sipura 3000 that has 1 FXO and 1 FXS port. You won't need to bother with IRQs and echo problems that at least here in UK we have with FXO cards. Yiannis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Logan Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:02 PM To: Asterisk-Users List Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box Hi everyone! Okay. I was reading on the voip-info.org about FXO and FXS. Is it possible just to get a card with FXO and FXS together? I know Digium sells them, but as I've said, I'm looking to spend too much. Thanks for everyone's input! Logan. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question: why are you building your hobby box? To gain practical experience? Then forget the X100: it's like learning Windows NT: yeah, the information might be somewhat valid today, but it's way obselete. The X100 is dead, and very unlamented. If you're just trying to build a fancy answering machine with no other purpose, then fine: waste time on the X100. But if there is any purpose to this, forget the X100P. Funny you would say that - I have a box running with a pair of X100P clones at the moment. I did have to tinker with transmit and receive levels, but, since then, they have run just fine on my old 533 MHz Celeron box, with no echo problems on 1.2.0 beta2 or rc2. I have them hooked into the voice mail ports on a Panasonic KX-TA624, and managed to integrate it in as a voice mail system. The main advantage for the TDM400 is that you can add FXS ports, or you could have four FXOs if you needed them. Still, the TDM400's cost is rather steep for a hobby box. I wouldn't recommend trying to use more than one X100P card unless you can insure they get separate IRQs, and going with more than two would probably not be a good idea. Russ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Price Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:11 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box Funny you would say that - I have a box running with a pair of X100P clones at the moment. I did have to tinker with transmit and receive levels, but, since then, they have run just fine on my old 533 MHz Celeron box, with no echo problems on 1.2.0 beta2 or rc2. I have them hooked into the voice mail ports on a Panasonic KX-TA624, and managed to integrate it in as a voice mail system. The main advantage for the TDM400 is that you can add FXS ports, or you could have four FXOs if you needed them. Still, the TDM400's cost is rather steep for a hobby box. I wouldn't recommend trying to use more than one X100P card unless you can insure they get separate IRQs, and going with more than two would probably not be a good idea. Russ Hi, I am not surprised you managed to sort out your echo problems quickly and easily. You see, the Panasonic KX-TA624 behaves the same every time, while a PSTN line would have a varying quality, noise, echo every time, depending on the other end sometimes. Yiannis. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Logan, I have a hobby box set up running asterisk at home with two winmodems, not digium clones, and it works just fine. As long as debian has drivers for it there shouldn't be any problem. Granted I have only set this up in at home. As for FXS cards the best way to go there is to either use a softphone or get a sipura box off of E-bay. Shouldn't be that expensive and most of them let you run two phones. I am using an SPA-2000 which has been replaced by the 2002 but you should be able to find one on e-bay. Hope this helps. On 11/16/05, Yiannis Costopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Russ Price Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:11 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box Funny you would say that - I have a box running with a pair of X100P clones at the moment. I did have to tinker with transmit and receive levels, but, since then, they have run just fine on my old 533 MHz Celeron box, with no echo problems on 1.2.0 beta2 or rc2.I have them hooked into the voice mail ports on a Panasonic KX-TA624, and managed to integrate it in as a voice mail system. The main advantage for the TDM400 is that you can add FXS ports, or you could have four FXOs if you needed them.Still, the TDM400's cost is rather steep for a hobby box. I wouldn't recommend trying to use more than one X100P card unless you can insure they get separate IRQs, and going with more than two would probably not be a good idea. RussHi,I am not surprised you managed to sort out your echo problems quicklyand easily. You see, the Panasonic KX-TA624 behaves the same every time,while a PSTN line would have a varying quality, noise, echo every time, depending on the other end sometimes.Yiannis.___--Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.comhttp://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
On Tuesday 15 November 2005 09:30, Dmitry Ivanov wrote: On Tuesday 15 November 2005 06:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm setting up an Asterisk hobby box for me to play around with. Is it possible to use a regular 56k modem and a regular home phone for it? Yes, but forget G.711. Well, actually, no. Some modems (with Intel and Motorola chipsets) will work as FXO with zaptel driver but most of them won't. FXS ports are pretty expensive -- it's cheaper to by an ATA (f.e. Grandstream) and use it with regular phone. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
On Nov 15, 2005, at 2:30 AM, Dmitry Ivanov wrote: On Tuesday 15 November 2005 06:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm setting up an Asterisk hobby box for me to play around with. Is it possible to use a regular 56k modem and a regular home phone for it? Yes, but forget G.711. BTW, some SIP-phones have built-in modem :) Unless I'm mistaken, this is not true. Some modems will work, but they are extremely rare. Your average USR/Rockwell/etc. modem will not work. Search on voip-info.org for X100P clone and read up on which will work. A regular phone line will work just fine, though, assuming that you get a way to interface it with your system: Digium X100P Digium TDM400P w/FXO Port Digium TDM2400P w/FXO Port ATA with FXO Port (Like Sipura SPA-3000) Tom Tom Rymes Cascade Link Systems www.cascadelinksystems.com (603) 375-1414 Intelligent technology solutions for small businesses. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
From the wiki, X100P (and clone) cards are Single port FXO card based on an Intel V.92 537 or MD3200 soft modem chipset. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+hardware+home+analog Moj Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 08:26:21PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm setting up an Asterisk hobby box for me to play around with. Is it possible to use a regular 56k modem and a regular home phone for it? Most of them won't be supported by Asterisk directly. What modem is it exactly? -- Mojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office Manger, Horan Company, LLC (907) 747- x112 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Ending last year I used\sold several hundred of product#: FM-INL92SW. Google for it...you'll find some for cheap. On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 09:53 -0900, Mojo with Horan Company, LLC wrote: From the wiki, X100P (and clone) cards are Single port FXO card based on an Intel V.92 537 or MD3200 soft modem chipset. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/15/2005 02:53:54 PM: Ending last year I used\sold several hundred of product#: FM-INL92SW. Google for it...you'll find some for cheap. Along those lines: are there drivers for the X100/X101 that allow it to act as a normal v.92 modem, even if it's just under Windows? Tim Massey ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Hi... I was going to clear a couple of things up because it seems that my message wasn't very clear--it teaches me not to post to a mailing list sick and half-sleep. Here we go... I am trying to set up a small hobby box on Debian Linux to play around with. This will in no way be in a production evironment or even a semi-production environment. Asterisk will be installed on my personal Linux box. I have a generic Soft56k modem (which I hope to soon replace) in there now. It doesn't work for PPP in Debian because it's a Winmodem. - That's irrelavent. I was wondering if it was feasable to istall Asterisk on this box and have that modem (or whatever modem) with a regular telephone wired to the Phone port. I'm hoping to spend very little (under $50) or none, if possible. Thanks for the other helpful input, though. Logan. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Logan wrote: I was wondering if it was feasable to istall Asterisk on this box and have that modem (or whatever modem) with a regular telephone wired to the Phone port. I'm a bit of a noob, also, but I don't think the Phone port on those cards are real FXS ports. I.e., I think they just connect through to the PXO jack while the modem is not in an off-hook state. Can someone verify this? A test might be to see if you get 'battery' (voltage) on the phone port when nothing is connected to the line/fxo port? Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
On Nov 15, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Logan wrote: [snip] I am trying to set up a small hobby box on Debian Linux to play around with. This will in no way be in a production evironment or even a semi-production environment. Asterisk will be installed on my personal Linux box. I have a generic Soft56k modem (which I hope to soon replace) in there now. It doesn't work for PPP in Debian because it's a Winmodem. - That's irrelavent. I was wondering if it was feasable to istall Asterisk on this box and have that modem (or whatever modem) with a regular telephone wired to the Phone port. I'm hoping to spend very little (under $50) or none, if possible. Logan, You need to figure out what type of modem you have now. If, by chance, it happens to be a Digium X100P clone (very unlikely), then it will work. However, if it isn't an X100P clone, it will not work. Period. (Unless you code up a driver yourself). That being said, and as I mentioned earlier, your cheapest choice is to go to eBay and search for X100P. However, IMNSHO, your best choice is to shell out somewhere around $100 for a Sipura SPA-3000. This will provide a way for you to connect your home phone line to asterisk, and a way for you to connect an analog phone to asterisk as an extension. It would be a good idea for you to spend some time on google, voip- info.org, asterisk.org, asteriskdocs.org, etc. searching for information. Tom Tom Rymes Cascade Link Systems www.cascadelinksystems.com (603) 375-1414 Intelligent technology solutions for small businesses. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Philip Edelbrock wrote: On Nov 15, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Logan wrote: As stupid as this may seem ::cough::, how do you test to see if there is voltage on the phone port? Would you plug in a phone that doesn't require a AC power and runs off the voltage from the phone line? Thanks though... ^_^ Logan. I was thinking volt meter, but actually I like your idea of just jacking in a phone and seeing if push-button tones and stuff work, with and without the line-side being plugged in. Phil It worked, thank goodness. But does that mean it'll work... I just looked on the Asterisk-Users message list and for some reason Tom Rymes messages. In response to Tom: I'm sure it's not an Digium-anything. It's a cheapo Office Depot replacement for when my original was struck by lightning. As I had said, I'm really not wanting to spend any money. It's not important that I get Asterisk up and running. Allow me to repeat, it's only a hobby box. But you're welcome to give me one... ;) Thanks. Logan. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
On Nov 15, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Logan wrote: Philip Edelbrock wrote: On Nov 15, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Logan wrote: As stupid as this may seem ::cough::, how do you test to see if there is voltage on the phone port? Would you plug in a phone that doesn't require a AC power and runs off the voltage from the phone line? Thanks though... ^_^ Logan. I was thinking volt meter, but actually I like your idea of just jacking in a phone and seeing if push-button tones and stuff work, with and without the line-side being plugged in. Phil It worked, thank goodness. But does that mean it'll work... I just looked on the Asterisk-Users message list and for some reason Tom Rymes messages. In response to Tom: I'm sure it's not an Digium-anything. It's a cheapo Office Depot replacement for when my original was struck by lightning. As I had said, I'm really not wanting to spend any money. It's not important that I get Asterisk up and running. Allow me to repeat, it's only a hobby box. But you're welcome to give me one... ;) Logan, Two things: 1.) Check the make, model, chipset, etc of your modem and figure out if it is an X100P clone. If it is, you can use it to hook up your incoming POTS line to your asterisk server. 2.) If you want to use the phone port of your modem to connect an analog phone to Asterisk as an extension, then it will not work. Tom Tom Rymes Cascade Link Systems www.cascadelinksystems.com (603) 375-1414 Intelligent technology solutions for small businesses. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Philip Edelbrock wrote: On Nov 15, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Logan wrote: As stupid as this may seem ::cough::, how do you test to see if there is voltage on the phone port? Would you plug in a phone that doesn't require a AC power and runs off the voltage from the phone line? Thanks though... ^_^ Logan. I was thinking volt meter, but actually I like your idea of just jacking in a phone and seeing if push-button tones and stuff work, with and without the line-side being plugged in. Phil It worked, thank goodness. But does that mean it'll work... I just looked on the Asterisk-Users message list and for some reason Tom Rymes messages. In response to Tom: I'm sure it's not an Digium-anything. It's a cheapo Office Depot replacement for when my original was struck by lightning. As I had said, I'm really not wanting to spend any money. It's not important that I get Asterisk up and running. Allow me to repeat, it's only a hobby box. But you're welcome to give me one... ;) Thanks. Logan. If you want to do this the cheapes way possible, download a softphone, install asterisk and sign up with an IAX or SIP provider. Many of these guys will allow $10 initial deposit. You can get a DID and test all kinds of configurations and features like this for only $10. Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/15/2005 06:42:40 PM: That being said, and as I mentioned earlier, your cheapest choice is to go to eBay and search for X100P. Here's a question: why are you building your hobby box? To gain practical experience? Then forget the X100: it's like learning Windows NT: yeah, the information might be somewhat valid today, but it's way obselete. The X100 is dead, and very unlamented. If you're just trying to build a fancy answering machine with no other purpose, then fine: waste time on the X100. But if there is any purpose to this, forget the X100P. This coming from the guy with 3 of them on the shelf, collecting dust, purchased for $100 each! However, IMNSHO, your best choice is to shell out somewhere around $100 for a Sipura SPA-3000. This will provide a way for you to connect your home phone line to asterisk, and a way for you to connect an analog phone to asterisk as an extension. You've got three choices, really, on the low end: Digium TDM400 with one FXO port: $130 Sipura SPA-3000 with one FXO and one FXS: $100 Grandstream Handytone 486 with one FXO and one FXS: $80 Yes, you *can* buy an X100P clone for like $10 plus SH on eBay. Don't. You could get just as much experience if you took the $15 you'd spend on the stupid thing and give them to a VoIP provider like Junction Networks or TelIAX and use it. It would be a good idea for you to spend some time on google, voip- info.org, asterisk.org, asteriskdocs.org, etc. searching for information. Seconded. Tim Massey ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk hobby box
Hi. I'm setting up an Asterisk hobby box for me to play around with. Is it possible to use a regular 56k modem and a regular home phone for it? Thanks. Logan. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Tuesday 15 November 2005 06:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm setting up an Asterisk hobby box for me to play around with. Is it possible to use a regular 56k modem and a regular home phone for it? Yes, but forget G.711. BTW, some SIP-phones have built-in modem :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 08:26:21PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm setting up an Asterisk hobby box for me to play around with. Is it possible to use a regular 56k modem and a regular home phone for it? Most of them won't be supported by Asterisk directly. What modem is it exactly? -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
