Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Matt
Ok... so I can safely use a provider who uses G729 or G723 to provide
me with VoIP termination without either A) having a connectivity
issue, or B) having to pay trans-coding license costs?

If so... what do I need to do to get asterisk to use G723?  Just set it up? 
Am I going to have an issue if my terminator uses G723 as far as
getting to/from phones using G726 or G711u?
Or if someone calls in to check voicemail... will they not be able to
hear anything because of this problem?

What do I need to do to hook up to a G729 provider, and (the same
question)... will a G711 phone work correctly (connected to asterisk).


On 4/27/05, Rusty Shackleford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729
 
  My question is.. if my voip terminator supports G723 and G729
  only, do I still need a license?
  Or is that considered
  pass-through?  If so, do I need to do anything special to
  get it to work?
 
 It is pass-through if both end points are using G.729.
 You need a G.729 license for every instance where a G.729 stream is
 encoded or decoded on your box. If you connect G.729 endpoints together,
 this isn't happening so no license is needed.
 
 Same goes for G.723.
 
 
  I'm also a litle confused about why G723 can do pass-through
  but can't do voicemail access?
 
 There is no G.723 license available for asterisk, ergo no way to
 transcode the voicemail and other promts into that format.
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Matt
For instance.. when I try to use G723.1 on my phone (and just call in
from my PRI line) I get:
Unable to find a path from g723 to ulaw.
Unable to find a path from ulaw to g723.
No path to translate from Zap/1-1(68) to Sip/201-80c7(1).
Same things happens if I call in on my current provider's number which
uses G711 for the codec.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Pedro
In your case, where you will need the license is on the box that your
phones register to.  For exampe, when someone checks voicemail,
encoding takes place, therefore you need a license.

Look at it this way:

[g729 provider] -(SIP or IAX)--- [g729 asterisk server]

- no license required in the above connection if using g729 solely

[g729 asterisk server containing non-g729 audio files]
(SIP)- [g729 SIP Phone]

- a license is required above for each non-g729 audio file or stream
that needs to be encoded to be sent out as g729 to the g729 SIP Phone
(ie. voicemail, IVR prompts, etc.).

Hope that makes sense.




On 4/28/05, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For instance.. when I try to use G723.1 on my phone (and just call in
 from my PRI line) I get:
 Unable to find a path from g723 to ulaw.
 Unable to find a path from ulaw to g723.
 No path to translate from Zap/1-1(68) to Sip/201-80c7(1).
 Same things happens if I call in on my current provider's number which
 uses G711 for the codec.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Matt
So

 [g729 provider] -(SIP or IAX)--- [g729 asterisk server]

This is how I'd be setup.. actually more like this:

[g729 provider] --(sip)  [g729 asterisk
server](sip)---[g711 sip phone client].


So... if I understand this correctly.. I *would not* for *any* reason
need a license going from the g711 client since to voicemail/etc
is fine.. and going out to the provider is not in my system?

However, if someone calls IN from the g729 provider and wants to check
voicemail, then I'd need a license?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 11:03 -0400, Matt wrote:
 So
 
  [g729 provider] -(SIP or IAX)--- [g729 asterisk server]
 
 This is how I'd be setup.. actually more like this:
 
 [g729 provider] --(sip)  [g729 asterisk
 server](sip)---[g711 sip phone client].
 
 
 So... if I understand this correctly.. I *would not* for *any* reason
 need a license going from the g711 client since to voicemail/etc
 is fine.. and going out to the provider is not in my system?

No, you will ALWAYS need a license while any call is active between your
provider and your asterisk box. The asterisk box (in your description)
needs to convert from G.729 to G.711, therefore, it needs a license to
do that. Pay $10, get a license, and move on, it will make your life
significantly easier.

Or, find a provider that will do gsm, or G.711.

Or, use a phone that has G.729, and don't use any asterisk functions
such as voicemail/etc...



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Matt
I'll gladly pay $10 a license... I'm all for supporting digium...
however, I was under the impression that there was also some huge one
time fee of like $2,000 or something.  I guess I was wrong... ok now
bad..

So I purchase the license from digium... then what happens/what needs
to be done on Asterisk?

On 4/28/05, Adam Goryachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 11:03 -0400, Matt wrote:
  So
 
   [g729 provider] -(SIP or IAX)--- [g729 asterisk server]
 
  This is how I'd be setup.. actually more like this:
 
  [g729 provider] --(sip)  [g729 asterisk
  server](sip)---[g711 sip phone client].
 
 
  So... if I understand this correctly.. I *would not* for *any* reason
  need a license going from the g711 client since to voicemail/etc
  is fine.. and going out to the provider is not in my system?
 
 No, you will ALWAYS need a license while any call is active between your
 provider and your asterisk box. The asterisk box (in your description)
 needs to convert from G.729 to G.711, therefore, it needs a license to
 do that. Pay $10, get a license, and move on, it will make your life
 significantly easier.
 
 Or, find a provider that will do gsm, or G.711.
 
 Or, use a phone that has G.729, and don't use any asterisk functions
 such as voicemail/etc...
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Rusty Shackleford
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:31 AM
 To: Adam Goryachev
 Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729
 
 
 I'll gladly pay $10 a license... I'm all for supporting 
 digium... however, I was under the impression that there was 
 also some huge one time fee of like $2,000 or something.  I 
 guess I was wrong... ok now bad..
 
 So I purchase the license from digium... then what 
 happens/what needs to be done on Asterisk?

Be aware that the license fee is $10 per instance. Each leg that is
transcoded to or from G.729 on your box will use one license. So if you
want to support 20 simultaneous callers checking their voicemail, you'll
need 20 licenses. 

The installation process is well documented on Digium's web site.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-28 Thread Dana Olson
You would need a transcoding license between the Asterisk PBX and the
G711 phone...


On 4/28/05, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So
 
  [g729 provider] -(SIP or IAX)--- [g729 asterisk server]
 
 This is how I'd be setup.. actually more like this:
 
 [g729 provider] --(sip)  [g729 asterisk
 server](sip)---[g711 sip phone client].
 
 So... if I understand this correctly.. I *would not* for *any* reason
 need a license going from the g711 client since to voicemail/etc
 is fine.. and going out to the provider is not in my system?
 
 However, if someone calls IN from the g729 provider and wants to check
 voicemail, then I'd need a license?
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[Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-27 Thread Matt
I see that G723 and G729 require a license to be used, or can be used
(in the case of G723) in pass-through mode only.

My question is.. if my voip terminator supports G723 and G729 only, do
I still need a license?  Or is that considered pass-through?  If so,
do I need to do anything special to get it to work?

I'm also a litle confused about why G723 can do pass-through but can't
do voicemail access?  What's the difference, or the logic behind this?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729

2005-04-27 Thread Rusty Shackleford
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:43 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Confused on G723 and G729
 
 My question is.. if my voip terminator supports G723 and G729 
 only, do I still need a license? 
 Or is that considered 
 pass-through?  If so, do I need to do anything special to 
 get it to work?

It is pass-through if both end points are using G.729.
You need a G.729 license for every instance where a G.729 stream is
encoded or decoded on your box. If you connect G.729 endpoints together,
this isn't happening so no license is needed. 

Same goes for G.723.

 
 I'm also a litle confused about why G723 can do pass-through 
 but can't do voicemail access?

There is no G.723 license available for asterisk, ergo no way to
transcode the voicemail and other promts into that format.

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