Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
how does efax do it? i wanna do it like efax! - Original Message - From: Kurth Bemis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:54 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? Also, if anyone has some tips and pointers, that would be great as well. ~kurth -- Kurth Bemis ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
Get some dialogic boards, with software that communicates with the dialogic boards (like right fax), and your smtp host, and you have an efax system. On 12/12/05, list [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how does efax do it? i wanna do it like efax! - Original Message - From: Kurth Bemis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:54 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? Also, if anyone has some tips and pointers, that would be great as well. ~kurth -- Kurth Bemis ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
- Original Message - From: Kurth Bemis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:54 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Not only have got two separate (but related) issues confused here, but your requirements appear to be contradictory. On the one hand you say you want a Fax over IP Provider and on the other hand you want to bring broadcast faxes in house. Which is it? If you want to use a FoIP provider, there are a number that will handle T.37 (essentially email-to-fax) but they typically charge an unreasonable premium for their services. I'm not sure if there are any T.38 providers that work domestically (i.e. US/Can) since the TDM rates are already so low. Most T.38 FoIP providers work overseas where one can still make money doing toll-bypass. If any one else on the list has more current information on T.38 service providers, please let us (me) know. On the other hand, if you want to put in a server, a bunch of phone lines, and go to town broadcasting faxes then that's pretty straightforward. Get a Linux server, install HylaFax (if you're brave), or Faximum (if you want commercial support) and start sending faxes. If you need more assistance with the latter approach, contact me offline. P.S. using the one page/minute rule-of-thumb, if your broadcast contains a single page you can get it out on a single line in less than 12 hours. Less than six on two. Less than four on three. etc. g. -- George Pajari, netVOICE communications604 484 VOIP (484 8647 x102) Open Source VoIP/Telephony Specialists 1 877 NET VOIP (638 8647 x102) www.netvoice.ca www.ip-centrex.ca www.digium.ca www.grandstream.ca www.sipura.ca www.snom.ca ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? Also, if anyone has some tips and pointers, that would be great as well. ~kurth -- Kurth Bemis ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
i know the hylafax but i dont have idea if this work over ip, if the pc receive a fax you can program the hylafax to send the fax received via email or send fax via whfc to the hylafax server - Original Message - From: Kurth Bemis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:54 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? Also, if anyone has some tips and pointers, that would be great as well. ~kurth -- Kurth Bemis ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ Visita http://www.tutopia.com y comienza a navegar más rápido en Internet. Tutopia es Internet para todos. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? Also, if anyone has some tips and pointers, that would be great as well. I've been using www.trustfax.com for over six months and they are very reliable. If you're talking about low volume, dig around their site and you'll find it is $9.95/year (800 number included) plus $.10/page. Lots of other higher volume plans as well. We receive all faxes via email in pdf format, so I can ship them to whoever is supposed to handle the account. You can send faxes via a MS Word document and email, and they will fax the stuff to whatever number you provide. The only issue I've noticed with this is the margins of the document aren't necessarily respected (or maybe its the font) as the exact layout of the faxed document can be slightly different then what you expect. For low volume fax traffic, it bets the hell out of messing around with spandsp, TDM cards, etc, etc. Still have a fax machine here in case we need to send pre-formated forms, etc. Highly recommended. Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
On 12/2/05, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? Also, if anyone has some tips and pointers, that would be great as well. I've been using www.trustfax.com for over six months and they are very reliable. If you're talking about low volume, dig around their site and you'll find it is $9.95/year (800 number included) plus $.10/page. Lots of other higher volume plans as well. I second trustfax. Been using them for about six months myself and never had a problem. Chris ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Service
accessline.biz Had them for over a year. $6.95/mo snacktime wrote: On 12/2/05, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this isn't an * question, but... Does anyone know of a Fax over IP Provider? Client looking to dump 3 regular fax lines, and bring broadcast faxes in house (around 700 per day) in house. Their broadcast fax service is currently outsourced. Can anyone point me in the correct direction? Also, if anyone has some tips and pointers, that would be great as well. I've been using www.trustfax.com for over six months and they are very reliable. If you're talking about low volume, dig around their site and you'll find it is $9.95/year (800 number included) plus $.10/page. Lots of other higher volume plans as well. I second trustfax. Been using them for about six months myself and never had a problem. Chris ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax service (instead of tdm card)
There seem to be a lot of these companies popping up and going away again, each with their own limits and flaws. TrustFax for example, only allows you to fax North American numbers. I still have an account with j2.com and it works fine but has gotten too expensive ($15/mo). They do fax, conferencing and vmail by the way and offer numbers worldwide. I think today's best solution would be the big providers themselves offering the solution either for your existing DID or as a second fax-only number. Don't some of them (voicepulse, i connect here) do this now? I know I will want to replace j2 within the year and have been trying spandsp for months. It receives spam faxes 100% but a few customers faxes don't work with it. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax service (instead of tdm card)
On 13 May 2005, at 23:38, Terje Elde wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this is too far off-topic, it sounds potentially interesting to others though. I'll be brief. Rich Adamson wrote: I gave up (for now) trying to make spandsp work with the digium TDM card. Instead, I signed up with www.trustfax.com at a cost of $9.95 per year plus $.10/page. Since we only deal with an estimated 120 pages per year, the total cost of about $22/year seemed like a very reasonable alternative. (At least until we can find out why the TDM card does not function properly with spandsp.) I've just started playing with FAX, and I think I've got a solution that seems to work pretty well, others might want to try. Some background: We don't send or receive large numbers of faxes, and I run * on a slightly underpowered box (1Ghz Nemiah) so I was very wary of running spandsp and tiff etc on the * box, given that it has an E1 to manage and also does some transcoding to GSM and G729. As an experiment I plugged a spare port on a Sipura 2000 into the modem socket of my Apple G5, configured the sipura and * to only use alaw (the native codec of my E1 that goes into my * box), configured * to send a spare DID to that sipura port and told Macos X that it had a fax modem. So I now have a solution which seems to work well. The really cute thing is that the Apple presents the outbound fax as a unix postscript printer, so any computers in the office can print to it and send faxes! Inbound the faxes get converted to PDF and can be sent to email, printer or file, or any mix of the above. The only problem is night time faxes (from folks in other timezones). I put the G5 in sleep mode when I leave the office. In theory it should be possible to have the G5 wake up from sleep mode when the fax line rings, but it seems to be too slow for the sipura or something, the first attempt fails, but if the sender retries before the G5 goes back to sleep, then it works fine. Given that the imac minis are only a few hundred dollars, I thought this might be a solution that people would be interested in. Tim. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax service (instead of tdm card)
Sorry if this is too far off-topic, it sounds potentially interesting to others though. I'll be brief. Rich Adamson wrote: I gave up (for now) trying to make spandsp work with the digium TDM card. Instead, I signed up with www.trustfax.com at a cost of $9.95 per year plus $.10/page. Since we only deal with an estimated 120 pages per year, the total cost of about $22/year seemed like a very reasonable alternative. (At least until we can find out why the TDM card does not function properly with spandsp.) I've just started playing with FAX, and I think I've got a solution that seems to work pretty well, others might want to try. Some background: We don't send or receive large numbers of faxes, and I run * on a slightly underpowered box (1Ghz Nemiah) so I was very wary of running spandsp and tiff etc on the * box, given that it has an E1 to manage and also does some transcoding to GSM and G729. As an experiment I plugged a spare port on a Sipura 2000 into the modem socket of my Apple G5, configured the sipura and * to only use alaw (the native codec of my E1 that goes into my * box), configured * to send a spare DID to that sipura port and told Macos X that it had a fax modem. So I now have a solution which seems to work well. The really cute thing is that the Apple presents the outbound fax as a unix postscript printer, so any computers in the office can print to it and send faxes! Inbound the faxes get converted to PDF and can be sent to email, printer or file, or any mix of the above. The only problem is night time faxes (from folks in other timezones). I put the G5 in sleep mode when I leave the office. In theory it should be possible to have the G5 wake up from sleep mode when the fax line rings, but it seems to be too slow for the sipura or something, the first attempt fails, but if the sender retries before the G5 goes back to sleep, then it works fine. Given that the imac minis are only a few hundred dollars, I thought this might be a solution that people would be interested in. The context for the original posting was ~$20/year (with the choice of several different service providers) is a reasonable alternative to using spandsp with the TDM analog card. E1/T1 users are not necessarily subjected to the same problems as the TDM analog card. The use of the TDM analog card implies a small (typically soho) one-to-four pstn line asterisk system where the quantity of faxes is fairly low, and seems to be a rather prevalent system for lots of US users. With such an external service provider, there is one less need for an analog pstn line dedicated to faxes (regardless of what is hanging on the end of the analog pstn line). ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax service (instead of tdm card)
FYI to the list I gave up (for now) trying to make spandsp work with the digium TDM card. Instead, I signed up with www.trustfax.com at a cost of $9.95 per year plus $.10/page. Since we only deal with an estimated 120 pages per year, the total cost of about $22/year seemed like a very reasonable alternative. (At least until we can find out why the TDM card does not function properly with spandsp.) For those that might want to consider the same approach, the TrustFax service provides a dedicated toll-free number, nice web management facility, and automatic email of any fax received (in pdf format). Their site keeps a copy of the incoming fax for some period of time, so doing an online view or resend is a nice backup. That service also provides an email-to-fax facility, but when sending a Word document in that manner, their conversion results in different page margins which _may_ impact the layout of the original document. Very very nice service at a very inexpensive overall cost! No more paper, and no more junk faxes. :) For what its worth, they also allow you to rebrand the service to your customers if that's needed. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax service (instead of tdm card)
Hi all, Sorry if this is too far off-topic, it sounds potentially interesting to others though. I'll be brief. Rich Adamson wrote: I gave up (for now) trying to make spandsp work with the digium TDM card. Instead, I signed up with www.trustfax.com at a cost of $9.95 per year plus $.10/page. Since we only deal with an estimated 120 pages per year, the total cost of about $22/year seemed like a very reasonable alternative. (At least until we can find out why the TDM card does not function properly with spandsp.) There seem to be a lot of these companies popping up and going away again, each with their own limits and flaws. TrustFax for example, only allows you to fax North American numbers. For the occasions when Fax is still used, in my experience, it tends to be issues where it's either confidential (fax often feels more secure than email), or time critical. I'd hate to rely on the timely delivery of a fax, only to find out that TrustFax bounced my email because they didn't want to fax the country I wanted to send to. If someone has a suggestion of a company providing a reliable fax service, that's been around for a while, and will fax to most countries, please let me know off list. Perfect solution would perhaps be something based on IPP and Postscript, to avoid a lot of conversion/formating issues. Flames can also be directed to my personal inbox. If I get a few decent suggestions (and not too many flames for being off-topic), I'll post a quick review of the different offerings. Terje ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
