Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 10:20:43AM +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 8 Feb 2006, at 09:43, JP Carballo wrote: Alex Barnes wrote: I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) A similar rule says If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Until you realize some script kiddie has exploited another Apache/ mod_ssl bug and is now remote-controlling your box. There are no hard and fast recipes here. Neither the automatically apply any and all updates nor the build and never look at it again- policies should be applied without taking the specific situation into account. If your box is on the internet you simply cannot forego updates. Period. If your box is completely walled off from the internet you can be lax about it (unless you have to worry about attacks from the inside). If the box does voip then it is on a network. And thus an explotable target. You should also make it not trivial for an attacker to gain root even after some successful exploit, if possible. The best policy is probably one that is halfway between the two. There are packages you only ever want to update under parental supervision, like kernels. Then there are packages where you want to grab any update you can get ASAP, like Apache, or PHP, or SSH. Yum allows you to express this in its configuration, you can exclude packages from the automatic update. But first and formost, pick a distro on which you could trust to provide relieble updates that don't break. If you can't rely on the distro for apache, PHP, SSH and the kernel, you'll end up with a broken config. I assume that this is not the only box you'll have to maintain. And that you'll have better things to do than watchig bugtraq all day long. I personally run a nightly script that uses yum to determine if there are updates. I apply them by hand. However, this is only feasible because it runs on just two machines. Not sure about other distros. On $MY_DISTRO there is a package to run that automatically. Which is kind of expected because enough people have come to rely on the updates to apply the automatically. The least you should do is to download al the updates automaically, to mak th time required for applying them minimal. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 10:38:33AM -0500, Technical Support wrote: I think that some people try to make their asterisk box a do-everything super server. Can you image a traditional PBX with direct access via the internet, serving web pages via apache, running sendmail, etc. Our approach has been keep it simple. We lock each Asterisk PBX down has hard as possible. This includes no direct internet connection (it should sit behind a real firewall), minimal services running, etc. With this philosophy, one can treat the PBX as an appliance: don't touch it if it's working. Then I suppose your PBX does not do direct voip. All voip is proxied by the firewall (with a special voip anti-virus to keep the bad guys from exploiting you through there). This also applies to whaever other voice channels you use. And also to some overly-complicated IVRs that may allow unintended privileges escalation: you wanted to avoid a clear and simple web interface, so you opted for a complicated phone interface. If you must run host web pages, run mail servers, offer SQLnet connections, make visible to the internet, Actually if a mail/SQL server is used it is either only availble to localhost. etc. then other users are correct - you better continually patch/update ASAP. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 01:03:51PM -0500, Paul wrote: Ryan Amos wrote: This is turning into a sysadmin theory flamewar, but I think the main point is that Fedora probably isn't the best thing to run on production machines for QA reasons. This is because Fedora is more or less the QA testbed for RHEL. CentOS is, for all intents and purposes (except a little bug I discovered with large block devices 2 TB) the same as RHEL without the support contract, so it is probably a better choice for a server you want to keep working for a while. Debian stable would probably work just as well (though IMO debian tends to be a bit TOO old,) as would SUSE's stable release version. Just don't use a testing release on a production machine. yum update (or up2date, or apt) is pretty safe on stable release trees, but in the testing releases you can run into problems with package dependencies, versions, slowly updated mirrors... you get the point. Debian stable is not so old. No decent distro is going to do a new stable release every time a new asterisk, openoffice, firefox, etc. is released. That's why they call it stable. There are several ways to get newer asterisk versions onto a debian stable system. The end user decides what risks to take in modifying any stable distro. Best approach for me has been to limit those changes to what I really must have. I take something like a new openoffice and try it out on a debian system running testing or unstable. If I like it enough, I find or build debian packages for the stable release. I think this sane and careful approach works with most linux distros but I have seen some distros where the testing or unstable branch was not installable at times. http://backports.org seems to be building Asterisk 1.2 relatively regularly from Unstable. We (Xorcom Rapid) also provide rather compatible Sarge backports of all things Asterisk -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:58 -0500, Matt Roth wrote: Keep in mind that if you want to run Asterisk Business Edition, RedHat Enterprise 3 or Fedora Core 3 are currently required in order to receive full technical support. My options were narrowed down further by the amount of RAM in our production server. It has 20GBs, and all of the documentation for RHEL3 mentioned limits below that. I don't know if those are hard limits or tech support limits, but either way it made the choice to use FC3 obvious. ES is limited to 16Gb. AS doesn't have a limit mentioned anywhere, except to use the 'hugemem' kernel 16Gb Anybody know which version CentOS is based on? Rgds Pete ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:12:44AM +, Pete Barnwell wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 12:58 -0500, Matt Roth wrote: Keep in mind that if you want to run Asterisk Business Edition, RedHat Enterprise 3 or Fedora Core 3 are currently required in order to receive full technical support. My options were narrowed down further by the amount of RAM in our production server. It has 20GBs, and all of the documentation for RHEL3 mentioned limits below that. I don't know if those are hard limits or tech support limits, but either way it made the choice to use FC3 obvious. ES is limited to 16Gb. AS doesn't have a limit mentioned anywhere, except to use the 'hugemem' kernel 16Gb I'll tell you a little secret (nobody is listening, right?) ES and AS are of the same codebase. IIRC even the same kernel and same everything. The only difference is the license. So I expect CentOS not to be limited this way. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not?
However, if you expose the box to the internet, you might want to upgrade those components that are known to have vulnerabilities. If you don't, count on the box being compromised sooner or later. This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! I say this to spare you lost nights and weekends wondering how things could have gone s wrong... Test and tweak on a duplicate system if it needs to be done. Technical Support wrote: We run FC4 on our production installs. It runs great. I should caution you that just because an update is available, it doesn't mean you SHOULD update. Treat your FC4 install as frozen - if it works don't update it! -Original Message- Hi everyone, What is recommended for a production quality system, FC3 or FC4. Once installed, is it necessary to run yum update, does that make things any better or just take up more memory? Zach A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: 08 February 2006 08:41 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? However, if you expose the box to the internet, you might want to upgrade those components that are known to have vulnerabilities. If you don't, count on the box being compromised sooner or later. This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! We have just switched from SUSE to Fedora4 for our new installs and are very happy with it. Personally I much prefer it and bonus is it's free. Something that might be of interest is before I deployed the box live I did a full yum update I guess it must have updated the kernel or something as after I rebooted the box zap stopped working with some weird errors. Quick recompile of zaptel had everything working a charm but its something worth keeping in mind. I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) HTH Alex Information contained in this e-mail and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee only, and may contain confidential information of Ubiquity Software Corporation. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this email. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing signed by an officer of Ubiquity Software Corporation, nothing in this communication shall be deemed to be legally binding. Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
Alex Barnes wrote: I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) A similar rule says If it ain't broke, don't fix it. -- JP Carballo http://www.netfone2x.com Bringing the world closer. It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level, I'm really quite busy. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
On 8 Feb 2006, at 09:43, JP Carballo wrote: Alex Barnes wrote: I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) A similar rule says If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Until you realize some script kiddie has exploited another Apache/ mod_ssl bug and is now remote-controlling your box. There are no hard and fast recipes here. Neither the automatically apply any and all updates nor the build and never look at it again- policies should be applied without taking the specific situation into account. If your box is on the internet you simply cannot forego updates. Period. If your box is completely walled off from the internet you can be lax about it (unless you have to worry about attacks from the inside). The best policy is probably one that is halfway between the two. There are packages you only ever want to update under parental supervision, like kernels. Then there are packages where you want to grab any update you can get ASAP, like Apache, or PHP, or SSH. Yum allows you to express this in its configuration, you can exclude packages from the automatic update. I personally run a nightly script that uses yum to determine if there are updates. I apply them by hand. However, this is only feasible because it runs on just two machines. jens ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 8 Feb 2006, at 09:43, JP Carballo wrote: Alex Barnes wrote: I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) A similar rule says If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Until you realize some script kiddie has exploited another Apache/ mod_ssl bug and is now remote-controlling your box. There are no hard and fast recipes here. Neither the automatically apply any and all updates nor the build and never look at it again- policies should be applied without taking the specific situation into account. If your box is on the internet you simply cannot forego updates. Period. If your box is completely walled off from the internet you can be lax about it (unless you have to worry about attacks from the inside). The best policy is probably one that is halfway between the two. There are packages you only ever want to update under parental supervision, like kernels. Then there are packages where you want to grab any update you can get ASAP, like Apache, or PHP, or SSH. Yum allows you to express this in its configuration, you can exclude packages from the automatic update. I personally run a nightly script that uses yum to determine if there are updates. I apply them by hand. However, this is only feasible because it runs on just two machines. That shouldn't be an exception. Anything with an exploit is (at least by my definition), broken. If it's broken, then by all means fix it. Urpmi has that capability too, to skip certain files when you run automatic updates or downloads for manual updating. -- JP Carballo http://www.netfone2x.com Bringing the world closer. It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level, I'm really quite busy. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
I think that some people try to make their asterisk box a do-everything super server. Can you image a traditional PBX with direct access via the internet, serving web pages via apache, running sendmail, etc. Our approach has been keep it simple. We lock each Asterisk PBX down has hard as possible. This includes no direct internet connection (it should sit behind a real firewall), minimal services running, etc. With this philosophy, one can treat the PBX as an appliance: don't touch it if it's working. If you must run host web pages, run mail servers, offer SQLnet connections, make visible to the internet, etc. then other users are correct - you better continually patch/update ASAP. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Barnes Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:04 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: 08 February 2006 08:41 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? However, if you expose the box to the internet, you might want to upgrade those components that are known to have vulnerabilities. If you don't, count on the box being compromised sooner or later. This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! We have just switched from SUSE to Fedora4 for our new installs and are very happy with it. Personally I much prefer it and bonus is it's free. Something that might be of interest is before I deployed the box live I did a full yum update I guess it must have updated the kernel or something as after I rebooted the box zap stopped working with some weird errors. Quick recompile of zaptel had everything working a charm but its something worth keeping in mind. I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) HTH Alex Information contained in this e-mail and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee only, and may contain confidential information of Ubiquity Software Corporation. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this email. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing signed by an officer of Ubiquity Software Corporation, nothing in this communication shall be deemed to be legally binding. Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
Maybe some people think that a PBX should come with a few games just like so many cell phones these days :) Technical Support wrote: I think that some people try to make their asterisk box a do-everything super server. Can you image a traditional PBX with direct access via the internet, serving web pages via apache, running sendmail, etc. Our approach has been keep it simple. We lock each Asterisk PBX down has hard as possible. This includes no direct internet connection (it should sit behind a real firewall), minimal services running, etc. With this philosophy, one can treat the PBX as an appliance: don't touch it if it's working. If you must run host web pages, run mail servers, offer SQLnet connections, make visible to the internet, etc. then other users are correct - you better continually patch/update ASAP. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Barnes Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:04 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: 08 February 2006 08:41 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? However, if you expose the box to the internet, you might want to upgrade those components that are known to have vulnerabilities. If you don't, count on the box being compromised sooner or later. This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! We have just switched from SUSE to Fedora4 for our new installs and are very happy with it. Personally I much prefer it and bonus is it's free. Something that might be of interest is before I deployed the box live I did a full yum update I guess it must have updated the kernel or something as after I rebooted the box zap stopped working with some weird errors. Quick recompile of zaptel had everything working a charm but its something worth keeping in mind. I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) HTH Alex Information contained in this e-mail and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee only, and may contain confidential information of Ubiquity Software Corporation. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this email. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing signed by an officer of Ubiquity Software Corporation, nothing in this communication shall be deemed to be legally binding. Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
On 2/8/06, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe some people think that a PBX should come with a few games just like so many cell phones these days :) Unfortunately, mine has to sit on the front line, it can't hide behind a firewall. I only have one IP, and it's either assign it to asterisk (and thus force it to serve as a nat server, occassional ftp server, etc.) or have to deal with having asterisk behind nat. Configuring sip without nat is soo easy. Yes, I took the easy way out! Of course, in my situation I make sure to keep it fairly up to date. Joseph Tanner Technical Support wrote: I think that some people try to make their asterisk box a do-everything super server. Can you image a traditional PBX with direct access via the internet, serving web pages via apache, running sendmail, etc. Our approach has been keep it simple. We lock each Asterisk PBX down has hard as possible. This includes no direct internet connection (it should sit behind a real firewall), minimal services running, etc. With this philosophy, one can treat the PBX as an appliance: don't touch it if it's working. If you must run host web pages, run mail servers, offer SQLnet connections, make visible to the internet, etc. then other users are correct - you better continually patch/update ASAP. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Barnes Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:04 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: 08 February 2006 08:41 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? However, if you expose the box to the internet, you might want to upgrade those components that are known to have vulnerabilities. If you don't, count on the box being compromised sooner or later. This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! We have just switched from SUSE to Fedora4 for our new installs and are very happy with it. Personally I much prefer it and bonus is it's free. Something that might be of interest is before I deployed the box live I did a full yum update I guess it must have updated the kernel or something as after I rebooted the box zap stopped working with some weird errors. Quick recompile of zaptel had everything working a charm but its something worth keeping in mind. I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) HTH Alex Information contained in this e-mail and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee only, and may contain confidential information of Ubiquity Software Corporation. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this email. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing signed by an officer of Ubiquity Software Corporation, nothing in this communication shall be deemed to be legally binding. Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
Joseph: We have setup systems for clients with a single (even dynamic) IP. We typically put a QoS router behind their cable modem, then direct certain ports to the PBX, the rest to their firewall. This offers a reasonable level of protection with 1 IP. By dual homing the PBX, web/mail services on the PBX can be visible internally and protected by the firewall, while the broad range of SIP ports IAX can be visible externally without NAT. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tanner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:04 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? On 2/8/06, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe some people think that a PBX should come with a few games just like so many cell phones these days :) Unfortunately, mine has to sit on the front line, it can't hide behind a firewall. I only have one IP, and it's either assign it to asterisk (and thus force it to serve as a nat server, occassional ftp server, etc.) or have to deal with having asterisk behind nat. Configuring sip without nat is soo easy. Yes, I took the easy way out! Of course, in my situation I make sure to keep it fairly up to date. Joseph Tanner Technical Support wrote: I think that some people try to make their asterisk box a do-everything super server. Can you image a traditional PBX with direct access via the internet, serving web pages via apache, running sendmail, etc. Our approach has been keep it simple. We lock each Asterisk PBX down has hard as possible. This includes no direct internet connection (it should sit behind a real firewall), minimal services running, etc. With this philosophy, one can treat the PBX as an appliance: don't touch it if it's working. If you must run host web pages, run mail servers, offer SQLnet connections, make visible to the internet, etc. then other users are correct - you better continually patch/update ASAP. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Barnes Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:04 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: 08 February 2006 08:41 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? However, if you expose the box to the internet, you might want to upgrade those components that are known to have vulnerabilities. If you don't, count on the box being compromised sooner or later. This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! We have just switched from SUSE to Fedora4 for our new installs and are very happy with it. Personally I much prefer it and bonus is it's free. Something that might be of interest is before I deployed the box live I did a full yum update I guess it must have updated the kernel or something as after I rebooted the box zap stopped working with some weird errors. Quick recompile of zaptel had everything working a charm but its something worth keeping in mind. I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) HTH Alex Information contained in this e-mail and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee only, and may contain confidential information of Ubiquity Software Corporation. All unauthorized use, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this email. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing signed by an officer of Ubiquity Software Corporation, nothing in this communication shall be deemed to be legally binding. Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
This is turning into a sysadmin theory flamewar, but I think the main point is that Fedora probably isn't the best thing to run on production machines for QA reasons. This is because Fedora is more or less the QA testbed for RHEL. CentOS is, for all intents and purposes (except a little bug I discovered with large block devices 2 TB) the same as RHEL without the support contract, so it is probably a better choice for a server you want to keep working for a while. Debian stable would probably work just as well (though IMO debian tends to be a bit TOO old,) as would SUSE's stable release version. Just don't use a testing release on a production machine. yum update (or up2date, or apt) is pretty safe on stable release trees, but in the testing releases you can run into problems with package dependencies, versions, slowly updated mirrors... you get the point. -Ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Vagelpohl Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? On 8 Feb 2006, at 09:43, JP Carballo wrote: Alex Barnes wrote: I think the once it's working, leave it alone advice is very sound indeed :) A similar rule says If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Until you realize some script kiddie has exploited another Apache/ mod_ssl bug and is now remote-controlling your box. There are no hard and fast recipes here. Neither the automatically apply any and all updates nor the build and never look at it again- policies should be applied without taking the specific situation into account. If your box is on the internet you simply cannot forego updates. Period. If your box is completely walled off from the internet you can be lax about it (unless you have to worry about attacks from the inside). The best policy is probably one that is halfway between the two. There are packages you only ever want to update under parental supervision, like kernels. Then there are packages where you want to grab any update you can get ASAP, like Apache, or PHP, or SSH. Yum allows you to express this in its configuration, you can exclude packages from the automatic update. I personally run a nightly script that uses yum to determine if there are updates. I apply them by hand. However, this is only feasible because it runs on just two machines. jens ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
CentOS is what [EMAIL PROTECTED] is based on--- that should also inform of someone else's thinking about stable distros to use.. CentOS is still RPM based, so you'd be in familiar turf as far as that goes-- no 'apt' stuff to relearn to support a new distro.. t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Price Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:21 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot? Zach A wrote: What is recommended for a production quality system, FC3 or FC4. Once installed, is it necessary to run yum update, does that make things any better or just take up more memory? I wouldn't recommend Fedora Core for a production system - at least not a server. For one thing, FC3 is now obsolescent, and FC updates in general have a very good chance of breaking things; I know from personal experience. Once support stops for a Fedora Core version, security updates via Fedora Legacy are few and far between. I'd go with CentOS 4.2 instead, or, if you have the bucks, the corresponding RHEL version. Updates are provided for a much longer period, and are far less likely to break things. Russ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
Keep in mind that if you want to run Asterisk Business Edition, RedHat Enterprise 3 or Fedora Core 3 are currently required in order to receive full technical support. My options were narrowed down further by the amount of RAM in our production server. It has 20GBs, and all of the documentation for RHEL3 mentioned limits below that. I don't know if those are hard limits or tech support limits, but either way it made the choice to use FC3 obvious. There is a lot of talk about the instability of Fedora Core as a production server, but in my experience it's been very stable. It's helpful that the Asterisk server doesn't need to be visible outside of our network, so I don't have to be as diligent about updates. Generally, it's best to have a dedicated machine for Asterisk and this adds another good reason why to the list. If your Asterisk box is a database server, ftp server, and web server as well, you could probably save yourself a lot of headaches by offloading those tasks to another machine. That said, I am concerned about ABE's reliance on FC3/RHEL3. FC5 test releases are available and FC3 is being moved to Fedora Legacy, so it seems like a good time to look at supporting ABE on FC4 as well. If you are interested, there is a lot of talk about the effects of FC3 moving on the Fedora users list https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ under the subject Fedora Core 3 Transferred to Fedora Legacy. Matthew Roth InterMedia Marketing Solutions Software Engineer and Systems Developer Ryan Amos wrote: This is turning into a sysadmin theory flamewar, but I think the main point is that Fedora probably isn't the best thing to run on production machines for QA reasons. This is because Fedora is more or less the QA testbed for RHEL. CentOS is, for all intents and purposes (except a little bug I discovered with large block devices 2 TB) the same as RHEL without the support contract, so it is probably a better choice for a server you want to keep working for a while. Debian stable would probably work just as well (though IMO debian tends to be a bit TOO old,) as would SUSE's stable release version. Just don't use a testing release on a production machine. yum update (or up2date, or apt) is pretty safe on stable release trees, but in the testing releases you can run into problems with package dependencies, versions, slowly updated mirrors... you get the point. -Ryan ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update ornot?
Ryan Amos wrote: This is turning into a sysadmin theory flamewar, but I think the main point is that Fedora probably isn't the best thing to run on production machines for QA reasons. This is because Fedora is more or less the QA testbed for RHEL. CentOS is, for all intents and purposes (except a little bug I discovered with large block devices 2 TB) the same as RHEL without the support contract, so it is probably a better choice for a server you want to keep working for a while. Debian stable would probably work just as well (though IMO debian tends to be a bit TOO old,) as would SUSE's stable release version. Just don't use a testing release on a production machine. yum update (or up2date, or apt) is pretty safe on stable release trees, but in the testing releases you can run into problems with package dependencies, versions, slowly updated mirrors... you get the point. Debian stable is not so old. No decent distro is going to do a new stable release every time a new asterisk, openoffice, firefox, etc. is released. That's why they call it stable. There are several ways to get newer asterisk versions onto a debian stable system. The end user decides what risks to take in modifying any stable distro. Best approach for me has been to limit those changes to what I really must have. I take something like a new openoffice and try it out on a debian system running testing or unstable. If I like it enough, I find or build debian packages for the stable release. I think this sane and careful approach works with most linux distros but I have seen some distros where the testing or unstable branch was not installable at times. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not?
Hi everyone, What is recommended for a production quality system, FC3 or FC4. Once installed, is it necessary to run yum update, does that make things any better or just take up more memory? Zach A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not?
We run FC4 on our production installs. It runs great. I should caution you that just because an update is available, it doesn't mean you SHOULD update. Treat your FC4 install as frozen - if it works don't update it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zach A Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:31 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not? Hi everyone, What is recommended for a production quality system, FC3 or FC4. Once installed, is it necessary to run yum update, does that make things any better or just take up more memory? Zach A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not?
This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! I say this to spare you lost nights and weekends wondering how things could have gone s wrong... Test and tweak on a duplicate system if it needs to be done. Technical Support wrote: We run FC4 on our production installs. It runs great. I should caution you that just because an update is available, it doesn't mean you SHOULD update. Treat your FC4 install as frozen - if it works don't update it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zach A Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:31 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not? Hi everyone, What is recommended for a production quality system, FC3 or FC4. Once installed, is it necessary to run yum update, does that make things any better or just take up more memory? Zach A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update o r not? also: SpanDSP -pre25 for 1.0.9 is out w00t!
Word. I'm doing a dupe of my production server this week as a CYA. Guess what: FC2. Once I yum update to the current kernel, no more yum. There's no reason to. You may have your own reasons (publicly avaliable server, for example) but why add uncertainty to an, at best, quite uncertain process (that of creating a stable Asterisk install given random hardware, network conditions, PSTN connectivity and kernel/library revs) Same reason I'm running 1.0.9. - when the No audio? update your Asterisk thread came out couple weeks ago, I was like: What bug? On another, sorta-related topic: Thank you so much, Mr Underwood, for backporting SpanDSP 0.0.2-pre25 to 1.0.X today - now that IS something that I will be upgrading tomorrow. Looks like it came up a couple hours ago on soft-switch.org Your efforts are appreciated by my users. -Original Message- From: RandyW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not? This is sound advice worth taking. If you get a system stable in production, LEAVE IT ALONE!! I say this to spare you lost nights and weekends wondering how things could have gone s wrong... Test and tweak on a duplicate system if it needs to be done. Technical Support wrote: We run FC4 on our production installs. It runs great. I should caution you that just because an update is available, it doesn't mean you SHOULD update. Treat your FC4 install as frozen - if it works don't update it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zach A Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:31 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4? yum update or not? Hi everyone, What is recommended for a production quality system, FC3 or FC4. Once installed, is it necessary to run yum update, does that make things any better or just take up more memory? Zach A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - couldsomeonethrowthe dog a bone!
The issue I have had with all other FC3 kernels apart from the 2.6.9 one was that the zaptel build would throw lots of warnings up. This would have the knock on of hanging the system, spinlock I think the problem was, on a modprobe -r. Lee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damon EstepSent: 26 August 2005 17:46To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - couldsomeonethrowthe dog a bone! What was the issue with zaptel and 2.6.12? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee ArcherSent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:22 AMTo: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someonethrowthe dog a bone! I found that only the kernel is installed. I'd avoid 2.6.12 for now as I had problem with the zaptel driver and stay with 2.6.9. Regards Lee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damon EstepSent: 24 August 2005 22:33To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throwthe dog a bone! This could be a duplicate post, sent it originally 4 hours ago, it never showed up! I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12 Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild bp target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec Tried to build zaptel error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. So I assume that either a) I did not build the correct source for the smp kernel, or b) I am missing a symbolic link to the kernel source. No help from the FC3 release notes, no help from a Google. So, if you dont mind, throw me the bone ###This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange.For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/###This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange.For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throw the dog a bone!
Ok, dont flame me, I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12 Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild bp target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec Tried to build zaptel error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. So I assume that either a) I did not build the correct source for the smp kernel, or b) I am missing a symbolic link to the kernel source. No help from the FC3 release notes, no help from a Google. So, if you dont mind, throw me the bone ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throw the dog a bone!
This could be a duplicate post, sent it originally 4 hours ago, it never showed up! I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12 Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild bp target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec Tried to build zaptel error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. So I assume that either a) I did not build the correct source for the smp kernel, or b) I am missing a symbolic link to the kernel source. No help from the FC3 release notes, no help from a Google. So, if you dont mind, throw me the bone ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someonethrowthe dog a bone!
What was the issue with zaptel and 2.6.12? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Archer Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:22 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someonethrowthe dog a bone! I found that only the kernel is installed. I'd avoid 2.6.12 for now as I had problem with the zaptel driver and stay with 2.6.9. Regards Lee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damon Estep Sent: 24 August 2005 22:33 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throwthe dog a bone! This could be a duplicate post, sent it originally 4 hours ago, it never showed up! I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12 Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild bp target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec Tried to build zaptel error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. So I assume that either a) I did not build the correct source for the smp kernel, or b) I am missing a symbolic link to the kernel source. No help from the FC3 release notes, no help from a Google. So, if you dont mind, throw me the bone ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throwthe dog a bone!
I found that only the kernel is installed. I'd avoid 2.6.12 for now as I had problem with the zaptel driver and stay with 2.6.9. Regards Lee From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damon EstepSent: 24 August 2005 22:33To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throwthe dog a bone! This could be a duplicate post, sent it originally 4 hours ago, it never showed up! I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12 Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild bp target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec Tried to build zaptel error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. So I assume that either a) I did not build the correct source for the smp kernel, or b) I am missing a symbolic link to the kernel source. No help from the FC3 release notes, no help from a Google. So, if you dont mind, throw me the bone###This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange.For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 asterisk startup
Permission denied when using asterisk startup scripts or safe_asterisk Both the asterisk script in /etc/init.d and the safe_asterisk script in /usr/sbin are marked as executable text files, but both result in permission denied when I try to execute them or when called at startup. Can start the asterisk executable directly without issues. Fedora Core 3 What have I missed? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throw the dog a bone!
I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12... Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild -bp -target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec why to recompile the kernel package ? Tried to build zaptel - error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. yum install kernel-smp-devel ln -s /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ /usr/src/linux-2.6 should help ;-) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throw the dog a bone!
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 23:56 +0200, Harald Holzer wrote: The OP said I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12... Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild -bp -target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec why to recompile the kernel package ? Tried to build zaptel - error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. yum install kernel-smp-devel ln -s /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ /usr/src/linux-2.6 should help ;-) Better to look at where /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ is actually pointing to, you may be very surprised. You did an rpmbuild ther's the clue. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throw the dog a bone!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harald Holzer Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:56 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] fedora core 3 kernel source - could someone throw the dog a bone! I know this is a question with an obvious answer to some, but I am not one of them. Installed FC3, but this time I decide to update since my ISOs are a bit old, so typical yum update Downloaded the FC3 SRPM for my kernel 2.6.12... Installed the SRPM package Ran rpmbuild -bp -target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec why to recompile the kernel package ? Because I don't know any better? Do I even need the kernel source RPM or just kernel-smp-devel? When making zaptel; Make clean Make linux26 -- is this still required in current CVS head? Make install Tried to build zaptel - error; You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3smp kernel installed. yum install kernel-smp-devel ln -s /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ /usr/src/linux-2.6 should help ;-) Yes it did, and I thank you! Damon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 + AVM Fritz ?
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 08:14 +1000, Eric Bishop wrote: Yes, I have some advice. Use Fedora Core 2. I have battaled for almost a year to get fcpci and udev-based distributions working with very limited success. On 7/21/05, Adrià Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone have info about install an AVM fritz into FC3 ? I'm getting problems with kernelcapi, after succesfully installed the fcpci support. Thanks Too bad you had that experience. I have successfully used Asterisk (both stable and HEAD) on FC2, FC3, FC4 and Centos 4.1 without *any* issues. The reason why I would not go for FC2 is that Adria needs kernelcapi support. There have been many bugfixes in the capi modules in more recent kernels that are part of (updated) FC3, FC4, CentOS 4.1 and afaik not FC2. For that reason I would always use a recent FC distro like FC4. Regards, Patrick ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 + AVM Fritz ?
Well, I tried it with ALL the distributions you mentioned, especially CentOS 4.1 and could not get past various issues like kernel panics etc. when loading the fcpci driver. Can you give us some tips on how you set it up? On 7/21/05, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 08:14 +1000, Eric Bishop wrote: Yes, I have some advice. Use Fedora Core 2. I have battaled for almost a year to get fcpci and udev-based distributions working with very limited success. On 7/21/05, Adrià Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone have info about install an AVM fritz into FC3 ? I'm getting problems with kernelcapi, after succesfully installed the fcpci support. Thanks Too bad you had that experience. I have successfully used Asterisk (both stable and HEAD) on FC2, FC3, FC4 and Centos 4.1 without *any* issues. The reason why I would not go for FC2 is that Adria needs kernelcapi support. There have been many bugfixes in the capi modules in more recent kernels that are part of (updated) FC3, FC4, CentOS 4.1 and afaik not FC2. For that reason I would always use a recent FC distro like FC4. Regards, Patrick ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 + AVM Fritz ?
Someone have info about install an AVM fritz into FC3 ? I'm getting problems with kernelcapi, after succesfully installed the fcpci support. Thanks -- Adrià Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail is better with 1Gmail ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 + AVM Fritz ?
Yes, I have some advice. Use Fedora Core 2. I have battaled for almost a year to get fcpci and udev-based distributions working with very limited success. On 7/21/05, Adrià Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone have info about install an AVM fritz into FC3 ? I'm getting problems with kernelcapi, after succesfully installed the fcpci support. Thanks -- Adrià Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail is better with 1Gmail ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 Shorewall Install
Dear asterisk-users, Allow me to preface this newbie's question with a statement: 1. I searched the archives the Wiki 2. I Googled until I couldn't Google anymore My questions concern the installation of the latest/greatest Asterisk on Fedora Core 3 with a Shorewall (Shoreline) Firewall installed. I haven't been able to find a step-by-step howto that is CURRENT that addresses this particular configuration. Does anyone have a link they could point me to? Please keep in mind the word current and by that I mean something that takes into account that I am using a Kernel that is 2.6+ and that Shorewall is version 2.2+ Mucho Gracias, amigos! 031547 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 Shorewall Install
El lun, 02-05-2005 a las 16:14, Anonymous Account escribió: My questions concern the installation of the latest/greatest Asterisk on Fedora Core 3 with a Shorewall (Shoreline) Firewall installed. For me * works fine, with FC3 and iptables (Shorewall is an IPtables too) I haven't been able to find a step-by-step howto that is CURRENT that addresses this particular configuration. The config is similar for all distros http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linux+Fedora Does anyone have a link they could point me to? Please keep in mind the word current and by that I mean something that takes into account that I am using a Kernel that is 2.6+ and that Shorewall is version 2.2+ You only need to open the ports, but is better to use iptables directly ;) http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+firewall+rules Mucho Gracias, amigos! De nada, Saludos desde Peru, -- Ing CIP Alejandro Celi Mariátegui [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 Shorewall Install
Not sure about FC3 issues, but I use Shorewall on the border. My * server is a 1-1 NAT inside. Here's all I need in /etc/shorewall/rules: # for SIP, IAX2, IAX, RTP, MGCP ACCEPT net loc:192.168.1.5 udp 5060,4569,5036,1:2,2727 - - - - I probably don't need all that, since I'm not running some of it, but it works for me. If your firewall is your * machine, you probably will need something like $FW instead of loc:192.168.1.5, and maybe all instead of net. HTH, (De nada) - Dan Anonymous Account wrote: Dear asterisk-users, Allow me to preface this newbie's question with a statement: 1. I searched the archives the Wiki 2. I Googled until I couldn't Google anymore My questions concern the installation of the latest/greatest Asterisk on Fedora Core 3 with a Shorewall (Shoreline) Firewall installed. I haven't been able to find a step-by-step howto that is CURRENT that addresses this particular configuration. Does anyone have a link they could point me to? Please keep in mind the word current and by that I mean something that takes into account that I am using a Kernel that is 2.6+ and that Shorewall is version 2.2+ Mucho Gracias, amigos! 031547 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3?
Is there any reason to avoid * on Fedora Core 3 at this time? Have most/all of the issues been resolved now? Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3?
Rich Adamson wrote: Is there any reason to avoid * on Fedora Core 3 at this time? Have most/all of the issues been resolved now? Rich, Both my Asterisk servers run FC3. The only issue I ran into was the change in RPMs for the source. FC doesn't distribute the kernel-source RPM any more. You need to get the SRPM. No big deal, and it's documented on the Fedora Core website. My servers are not in production, however. I'm still working out configuration issues. Feel free to contact me off-list if I can be of further assistance. Darren ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3?
I use FC3 on all our servers including 3 * servers. I have absolutely no issues what so ever. You do NOT need the kernel source RPM (which I don't even think exists anymore) as they've changed how they set up the kernel RPMs somewhere after FC1. The source rpm from FC1 (which is a bit old 2.6.5 or something) is if you actually want to compile your own kernel. The regular kernel rpms now come with all the headers and development stuff included. You should be able to install the kernel rpm and compile zaptel right away. do an rpm -ql kernel | less to check out the contents. They have header files all over the place ;) Cheers. j On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 08:15 -0500, Darren Ellis wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: Is there any reason to avoid * on Fedora Core 3 at this time? Have most/all of the issues been resolved now? Rich, Both my Asterisk servers run FC3. The only issue I ran into was the change in RPMs for the source. FC doesn't distribute the kernel-source RPM any more. You need to get the SRPM. No big deal, and it's documented on the Fedora Core website. My servers are not in production, however. I'm still working out configuration issues. Feel free to contact me off-list if I can be of further assistance. Darren ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- j [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3?
j wrote: I use FC3 on all our servers including 3 * servers. Great news. The regular kernel rpms now come with all the headers and development stuff included. You should be able to install the kernel rpm and compile zaptel right away. do an rpm -ql kernel | less to check out the contents. They have header files all over the place ;) That explains a lot. I can now get rid of my vanilla 2.6.10 kernel ;-) -- _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Bill Maidment Maidment Enterprises Pty Ltd Unless you are named Alfred E. Newman, you may read only the odd numbered words (every other word beginning with the first) of the message above. If you have violated that, then you hereby owe the sender AU$10 for each even numbered word you have read. Adapted from Stupid Email Disclaimers (see http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3?
Is there any reason to avoid * on Fedora Core 3 at this time? Have most/all of the issues been resolved now? I don't know about the issues on FC3, but I wouldn't want to use a testing distro on a production server. If you are looking for a stable distro that cost nothing, have a look at CentOS : http://www.centos.org/ It's based on RH Entreprise 3 hth ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3?
I am developing voicemail and SIP and RAIDUS code for Asterisk Code on the Fedora Core 3 and having no problems. I am running on an Intel Pentium 3, 1.5 GHz, mother board stuck inside an old E-machine case and it is very happy... (I only wish I could find a Okidata B4250 printer driver or a PCL-6 I could understand.) It has been running for 2 weeks. It compiles fast and easy and no complaints from asterisk CVS from 2 weeks ago. Race The Tyrant Vanderdecken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:03 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3? I use FC3 on all our servers including 3 * servers. I have absolutely no issues what so ever. You do NOT need the kernel source RPM (which I don't even think exists anymore) as they've changed how they set up the kernel RPMs somewhere after FC1. The source rpm from FC1 (which is a bit old 2.6.5 or something) is if you actually want to compile your own kernel. The regular kernel rpms now come with all the headers and development stuff included. You should be able to install the kernel rpm and compile zaptel right away. do an rpm -ql kernel | less to check out the contents. They have header files all over the place ;) Cheers. j On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 08:15 -0500, Darren Ellis wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: Is there any reason to avoid * on Fedora Core 3 at this time? Have most/all of the issues been resolved now? Rich, Both my Asterisk servers run FC3. The only issue I ran into was the change in RPMs for the source. FC doesn't distribute the kernel-source RPM any more. You need to get the SRPM. No big deal, and it's documented on the Fedora Core website. My servers are not in production, however. I'm still working out configuration issues. Feel free to contact me off-list if I can be of further assistance. Darren ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- j [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3?
Race Vanderdecken wrote: I am running on an Intel Pentium 3, 1.5 GHz, mother board stuck inside an old E-machine case and it is very happy... (I only wish I could find a Okidata B4250 printer driver or a PCL-6 I could understand.) http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/okidata-list/2004q2/000359.html cheers, glenn ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 / Asterisk / TP100 Wildcard
Just as an FYI I have a configuration suppestion to pass along... If you have: Fedora Core 3 Asterisk 1.0.x Digium Wildcard T100P PCI Card In order to get the card to work you MUST edit /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules Goto the end of the file and add... KERNEL=zapctl, NAME=zap/ctl KERNEL=zaptimer, NAME=zap/timer KERNEL=zapchannel, NAME=zap/channel KERNEL=zappseudo, NAME=zap/pseudo KERNEL=zap[0-9]*, NAME=zap/%n Then for good measure, recompile asterisk. Hope this helps! Ty Carter, President Strategic Network Consultants, Inc. 524 East 9th Street Washington, NC 27889 252-946-0351 - Voice 252-402-5296 - Cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 / Asterisk / TP100 Wildcard
Ty Carter wrote: Just as an FYI I have a configuration suppestion to pass along... If you have: Fedora Core 3 Asterisk 1.0.x Digium Wildcard T100P PCI Card In order to get the card to work you MUST edit /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules Goto the end of the file and add... KERNEL=zapctl, NAME=zap/ctl KERNEL=zaptimer, NAME=zap/timer KERNEL=zapchannel, NAME=zap/channel KERNEL=zappseudo, NAME=zap/pseudo KERNEL=zap[0-9]*, NAME=zap/%n Then for good measure, recompile asterisk. You don't need to recompile Asterisk, but you do need to reboot. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 app_curl compile error?
I ran into the same problem yesterday and installed the libidn-devel package which corrected it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Swan Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:29 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 app_curl compile error? Hi, I'm making the latest CVS asterisk source on a newly installed Fedora Core 3 distribution. However, when the makefile for asterisk/apps runs, it generates an error when trying to link app_curl.so complaining about not finding -lidn. Has anyone else run into this problem? I can chase down libidn but I find it odd that others on the list have seemingly gotten asterisk to work on FC3 but never complained about this particular problem... Michael Swan Neon Software, Inc. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 app_curl compile error?
Hi, I'm making the latest CVS asterisk source on a newly installed Fedora Core 3 distribution. However, when the makefile for asterisk/apps runs, it generates an error when trying to link app_curl.so complaining about not finding -lidn. Has anyone else run into this problem? I can chase down libidn but I find it odd that others on the list have seemingly gotten asterisk to work on FC3 but never complained about this particular problem... Michael Swan Neon Software, Inc. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 app_curl compile error?
Michael Swan wrote: Hi, I'm making the latest CVS asterisk source on a newly installed Fedora Core 3 distribution. However, when the makefile for asterisk/apps runs, it generates an error when trying to link app_curl.so complaining about not finding -lidn. Has anyone else run into this problem? I can chase down libidn but I find it odd that others on the list have seemingly gotten asterisk to work on FC3 but never complained about this particular problem... Heh, yeah I did too. I ended up just commenting it out of the asterisk/apps/Makefile. If you don't need it... -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___ Daily Asterisk News: http://www.sineapps.com/news.php for html http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php for rss ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 app_curl compile error?
At 03:55 PM 12/29/2004 +1300, you wrote: Michael Swan wrote: Hi, I'm making the latest CVS asterisk source on a newly installed Fedora Core 3 distribution. However, when the makefile for asterisk/apps runs, it generates an error when trying to link app_curl.so complaining about not finding -lidn. Has anyone else run into this problem? I can chase down libidn but I find it odd that others on the list have seemingly gotten asterisk to work on FC3 but never complained about this particular problem... Heh, yeah I did too. I ended up just commenting it out of the asterisk/apps/Makefile. If you don't need it... -- Now why didn't I think of that? :-) Thanks for the advice. Michael Swan Neon Software, Inc. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards?
Has anybody managed to get Fedora Core 3 and the zapata drivers working with the TDM400P cards? Everything is going fine untilI do modprobe mcfxs Any ideas? It's a straight install of Fedora Core 3. Graeme ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards?
Has anybody managed to get Fedora Core 3 and the zapata drivers working with the TDM400P cards? Everything is going fine until I do modprobe mcfxs Any ideas? It's a straight install of Fedora Core 3. The driver for the TDM400P card is wctdm. Not sure what a mcfxs happens to be. The old wcfxs was renamed to wctdm some time ago. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards?
--Original Message Text--- From: Graeme Ogilvie Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:45:41 - Has anybody managed to get Fedora Core 3 and the zapata drivers working with the TDM400P cards? Everything is going fine until I do modprobe mcfxs Any ideas? It's a straight install of Fedora Core 3. Graeme I tried to use FC3 in rebuilding an * server over the weekend. However, the Anaconda installer failed very early in the install so I ended up going back to FC1. The TDM400P works great though! Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards?
The card must have shipped with some old documentation then. I'll give that a go tomorrow. Thanks. Graeme -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: 29 November 2004 20:01 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards? Has anybody managed to get Fedora Core 3 and the zapata drivers working with the TDM400P cards? Everything is going fine until I do modprobe mcfxs Any ideas? It's a straight install of Fedora Core 3. The driver for the TDM400P card is wctdm. Not sure what a mcfxs happens to be. The old wcfxs was renamed to wctdm some time ago. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards?
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 14:00 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:
Has anybody managed to get Fedora Core 3 and the zapata drivers working
with the TDM400P
cards?
Everything is going fine until I do
modprobe mcfxs
Any ideas? It's a straight install of Fedora Core 3.
The driver for the TDM400P card is wctdm. Not sure what a mcfxs happens
to be. The old wcfxs was renamed to wctdm some time ago.
I hadn't run into this problem on FC1 or FC2, but this was the first
time I've tried running * on a Linux 2.6 kernel. I have a single
TDM400P with 3 FXS modules. I use the init script found
in /usr/src/asterisk/contrib/init.d/, although I had to modify it a
little for the first time.
I can't remember all the error messages I was getting when I first tried
all this, but this is what I ended up with. In the init script I load
wcfxo wctdm. I also had to add some delays during the module loads.
I found that when I loaded modules by hand on the command line and then
ran ztcfg, it worked, but when I used the init script I got errors. I
modified the start section of the init script to be this:
# See how we were called.
case $1 in
start)
# Load drivers
rmmod wcusb /dev/null
rmmod wcfxsusb /dev/null
rmmod audio /dev/null
action Loading zaptel framework: modprobe zaptel
sleep 1
echo Loading zaptel hardware modules:
for x in $MODULES; do
echo -n $x
modprobe ${x} /dev/null
echo - Sleep 1
sleep 1
done
echo Sleep 3
sleep 3
echo
action Running ztcfg: /sbin/ztcfg
RETVAL=$?
[ $RETVAL -eq 0 ] touch /var/lock/subsys/zaptel
;;
For some reason the sleeps were needed to allow things to settle?
There's my technical description! :-) If anyone has any suggestions of
a better way to handle this, I'm all ears! The sleep issue may be
related to the motherboard I'm using as it's the first time I've run *
using this particular board (Tyan Thunder LE S2510U3NG).
Anyway, hope that helps someone!
Mitch Sharp
Innovative Solutions
http://www.innosol.com
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards?
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:17 -0600, Mitchell S. Sharp wrote: [ content removed] I hadn't run into this problem on FC1 or FC2, but this was the first time I've tried running * on a Linux 2.6 kernel. I have a single TDM400P with 3 FXS modules. I use the init script found in /usr/src/asterisk/contrib/init.d/, although I had to modify it a little for the first time. [ content removed] I just realized the init script location I gave was for the asterisk script and not the zaptel script. The zaptel script would be /usr/src/zaptel/zaptel.init if you downloaded from CVS. Mitch Sharp Innovative Solutions http://www.innosol.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards?
Works great, thanks Mitch! Much appreciated. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitchell S. Sharp Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 TDM400P cards? On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:17 -0600, Mitchell S. Sharp wrote: [ content removed] I hadn't run into this problem on FC1 or FC2, but this was the first time I've tried running * on a Linux 2.6 kernel. I have a single TDM400P with 3 FXS modules. I use the init script found in /usr/src/asterisk/contrib/init.d/, although I had to modify it a little for the first time. [ content removed] I just realized the init script location I gave was for the asterisk script and not the zaptel script. The zaptel script would be /usr/src/zaptel/zaptel.init if you downloaded from CVS. Mitch Sharp Innovative Solutions http://www.innosol.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
Ok I've just joined and attempted to search the archives but have not found anything... Is Fedora Core 3 Supported? Directions for Fedora core 3 install if available would be nice. If not I'll be attempting it anyway and can start a crude set. Assuming that they do not does anybody have a set for Fedora core 2? Not a Linux Beginner (I've done RedHat up to 8.0 for several years now). But a beginner to Fedora, We might in the end move to RedHat ES 3.0 but for initial testing we'd prefer FC3. Thanks ahead of time. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
Assuming that they do not does anybody have a set for Fedora core 2? Unfortunately I don't have the Hardware to go with it just playing and testing the server and yes I'm using it on FC2. It compiled fine and was able to connect to the testing server useing CLI. -- Mike Ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
Fred Skrotzki wrote: Is Fedora Core 3 Supported? Fred, I've just installed FC3 on a new box and will be installing Asterisk today. I've done it a couple times and had no problems with the compile and install. Just starting to learn *. I haven't gone beyond the compile/install and play the demo. Doug ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
Sir, I am using FC3 with no problem. I have the T1 card. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
- Original Message - From: Jerry Geis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported? | Sir, | | I am using FC3 with no problem. I have the T1 card. | Has Core 3 been made to behave like Core 1 with respect to the zaptel drivers? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 12:01 -0500, Cirelle Enterprises wrote: Has Core 3 been made to behave like Core 1 with respect to the zaptel drivers? FC3 is different in that it uses udev. Google, #fedora on freenode.net and the fedora list are your sources of info should you want to learn more about udev. Patrick ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
Has Core 3 been made to behave like Core 1 with respect to the zaptel drivers? FC3 is different in that it uses udev. Google, #fedora on freenode.net and the fedora list are your sources of info should you want to learn more about udev. Here's my notes on getting the Zaptel stuff working on Fedora Core 3: Installation of TDM400P (1-4 port FXS/FXO modules) and X100P on FC3 with SELinux disabled and all development tools installed 1. Make a symlink /usr/src/linux-2.6 - /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build 2. In the shell, do: cd /usr/src export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/cvsroot cvs login -- password is anoncvs cvs checkout zaptel cd zaptel 3. Copy the designated lines from README.udev into /etc/udev/rules.d/filename.rules where filename can be something like 66-zaptel.rules 4. From /usr/src/zaptel, do: make clean; make linux26; make install -- for 2.6 kernels This will put the *.ko modules in /lib/modules/version/misc/, and puts entries in /etc/modprobe.conf for all the modules that will run /sbin/ztcfg on each module loaded with modprobe. The /sbin/ztcfg program reads /etc/zaptel.conf for config parameters. 5. Create /etc/zaptel.conf config file (see below) 6. Power down and unplug the PC 7. Plug in the cards and attach a power connector to the TDM400 8. Power on 9. When the hardware checker finds a new Tiger Jet device, just ignore it. (Anyone know how to make it stop bothering me?) 10. Do: modprobe wcfxo for the X100P, and/or modprobe wctdm (was wcfxs, which is now an alias) for the TDM400P. If they work, you should see messages like: Found a Wildcard FXO: Wildcard X101P -- for the X100P Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F-- for the TDM400P On the TDM400P, the light turns green next to the jack when the module is loaded, regardless of whether a phone is plugged in. The hardware now is set up. However, there is a delay in the creation of the /dev/zap/* devices after running the modprobes that should be taken into account when running asterisk. Doug ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fedora Core 3 supported?
9. When the hardware checker finds a new Tiger Jet device, just ignore it. (Anyone know how to make it stop bothering me?) Choose Do nothing and it should stop bothering you.. thanks for the install tops I may be having a go with FC3 in the near future.. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
