[Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-02-06 Thread Sam Tam



Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.

Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
etc..

Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

I have limited stock therefore please act quick to avoid disappointment 

Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency 
Peak power: 2 W
Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
Sencitivity:-104dB
Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
Condition temperature:0C~+40C
Working humidity:45%-90%
Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
Circumstance noise:60 dB
Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer ‘s optional)
Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
port(optional)

For more info please email gsm AT cyber-telecom.net for more info or visit
www.cyber-telecom.net to purchase right away.

Sam


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-02-06 Thread Dovid Bender
I believe that this email should be going to the BIZ
list only.

--- Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode
 with external antenna.
 
 Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before
 dispatch.
 
 Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the
 box without any
 configuration. So should be good alternatively of
 phonecell or nokia pbx
 etc..
 
 Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit
 excluding shipping.
 
 I have limited stock therefore please act quick to
 avoid disappointment 
 
 Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double
 frequency 
 Peak power: 2 W
 Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
 Sencitivity:-104dB
 Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
 Condition temperature:0C~+40C
 Working humidity:45%-90%
 Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
 Circumstance noise:60 dB
 Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
 AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency
 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
 Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer ‘s
 optional)
 Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
 Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type
 port(optional).TNC
 port(optional)
 
 For more info please email gsm AT cyber-telecom.net
 for more info or visit
 www.cyber-telecom.net to purchase right away.
 
 Sam
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-22 Thread Sam Tam
I don't think there is any laws on GSM Gateway itself.



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Are GSM gateways allowed in Canada?
And can we resell it?
Robert


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Steve Kennedy
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:17 AM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale
 
 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:23:26PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote:
 
   I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? 
   VOIP calls are pretty inexpensive as they are now.
  It largely depends on the country you're calling. Here in the UK, 
  calls to mobiles are maintained at an artificially high 
 rate because 
  the terminating network (the mobile networks) get a cut of call 
  revenue for calls *to* your mobile. By contrast, in the US, 
 the mobile 
  customer often pays a small charge per minute on incoming 
 calls (as I understand the market over there).
  You'll also find in the UK the mobile phone market is heavily 
  subsidized by the networks such that you can get phones for free if 
  you sign up to 12 month contracts. I often find that it's 
  cost-effective to get a new contract every 12 months (with a free 
  phone), even if I don't want the phone. Flog the phone on ebay and 
  you've got a spare SIM with lots of inclusive minutes for 
 almost nothing.
 
 In the UK the wholesale rates are set by Ofcom (like the 
 FCC), which works out about 7p'ish per minute.
 
 However the operators can offer retail bundles (including 
 phones) and for a monthly contract they throw in various 
 ammounts of cross network minutes (or free to their own 
 network or whatever). With clever dial-plans and multiple 
 terminals connected to multiple networks you can generally 
 get free calls to mobile users (basically clever least cost 
 routing, time of day sometimes needs to be taken into account 
 as well).
 
 However there are some disadvantages, the main being you cant 
 set CLI of the outgoing call as it will always be tied to the 
 SIM of the mobile terminal.
 
 Another is that you can NOT run a GSM gateway (as they're 
 known) for 3rd parties. So if you want to connect your office 
 PBX to a gateway to make use of cheap mobile termination for 
 your own company that's fine, but as an ITSP (or traditional 
 telco) you can not allow 3rd party traffic to utilise a 
 gateway. If networks find you are using a gateway (as a 
 telco) they can cut it off, no questions asked. Gateways have 
 been determined to be fixed infrastructure, therefore NOT mobile.
 
 There is (or maybe was by now) an Ofcom consultation asking 
 whether this should be changed, the mobile operators will 
 fight it, telcos and other users will be asking for it to be changed.
 
 Of course this is UK specific, other countries have more 
 lenient policies (I think Belgium allow gateways, France 
 doesn't allow any kind, and some allow them with the 
 co-operation of the operators).
 
 
 Steve
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-22 Thread Sam Tam
Why not get a asterisk or Normal VoiP Gateway and then connect those
together .

Sure that will still cost less than 300 USD

and then you can run sip or iax or h323 on it.


Email me on sam AT cyber-telecom DOT net for more info

Sam

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Remco Barende wrote:
 Not really, their suggested retail price is USD 300 for the analog 
 unit, probably because of the intelligent stuff in the box (which we 
 do not need when using *).

 At USD 300 you can find SIP capable devices, for an analog unit the 
 SIPCE is 3x more expensive than the unit we were discussing.

Where can I find the $300 SIP capable units?

-- 
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NetConcepts
(264) 497-5670 Fax: (264) 497-8463
Int:  (305) 704-7249 Fax: (815)301-9759 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-08 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

JCC wrote:

I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? VOIP calls are
pretty inexpensive as they are now. Is the use of a gateway intended as a
backup incase a wired network connection goes down? I have being looking
around the net for information on this. Anyone out there using it and if so
you can please share with me how you use this technology? Any information
will be appreciated.


As you have seen from the other responses, there are advantages to this 
(and carriers support it) in other parts of the world.  In the USA there 
isn't much need for such a device since calls to cell phones and calls 
to landlines cost the same amount.  In other parts of the world a call 
to a cell phone is MUCH more expensive that calls to a landline.


In many parts of Europe if you have a GSM gateway then the cell phones 
can become part of your Centrex system.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-08 Thread Mike Fedyk

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:


JCC wrote:

I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? VOIP 
calls are
pretty inexpensive as they are now. Is the use of a gateway intended 
as a

backup incase a wired network connection goes down? I have being looking
around the net for information on this. Anyone out there using it and 
if so
you can please share with me how you use this technology? Any 
information

will be appreciated.



As you have seen from the other responses, there are advantages to 
this (and carriers support it) in other parts of the world.  In the 
USA there isn't much need for such a device since calls to cell phones 
and calls to landlines cost the same amount.  In other parts of the 
world a call to a cell phone is MUCH more expensive that calls to a 
landline.


In many parts of Europe if you have a GSM gateway then the cell phones 
can become part of your Centrex system.


They have their advantages in the US also.  For instance, if you have 
your cell phones with a carrier that has free calls to the same network, 
then you can drastically reduce bills with a callback system.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-07 Thread pdhales
I have used both Telular analog units and Voiceblue SIP units in Australia.

PaulH

- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale


 Is anyone aware of the details of this in Australia?

 I'd love to be able to let tech's have calls route straight to their
 mobiles when 'in-house'

 Steve Kennedy wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:23:26PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote:
 
 
 
 I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway?
 VOIP calls are pretty inexpensive as they are now.
 
 
 It largely depends on the country you're calling. Here in the UK, calls
to
 mobiles are maintained at an artificially high rate because the
terminating
 network (the mobile networks) get a cut of call revenue for calls *to*
your
 mobile. By contrast, in the US, the mobile customer often pays a small
 charge per minute on incoming calls (as I understand the market over
there).
 You'll also find in the UK the mobile phone market is heavily subsidized
by
 the networks such that you can get phones for free if you sign up to 12
 month contracts. I often find that it's cost-effective to get a new
contract
 every 12 months (with a free phone), even if I don't want the phone.
Flog
 the phone on ebay and you've got a spare SIM with lots of inclusive
minutes
 for almost nothing.
 
 
 
 In the UK the wholesale rates are set by Ofcom (like the FCC), which
 works out about 7p'ish per minute.
 
 However the operators can offer retail bundles (including phones) and
 for a monthly contract they throw in various ammounts of cross network
 minutes (or free to their own network or whatever). With clever
 dial-plans and multiple terminals connected to multiple networks you can
 generally get free calls to mobile users (basically clever least cost
 routing, time of day sometimes needs to be taken into account as well).
 
 However there are some disadvantages, the main being you cant set CLI of
 the outgoing call as it will always be tied to the SIM of the mobile
 terminal.
 
 Another is that you can NOT run a GSM gateway (as they're known) for 3rd
 parties. So if you want to connect your office PBX to a gateway to make
 use of cheap mobile termination for your own company that's fine, but as
 an ITSP (or traditional telco) you can not allow 3rd party traffic to
 utilise a gateway. If networks find you are using a gateway (as a telco)
 they can cut it off, no questions asked. Gateways have been determined
 to be fixed infrastructure, therefore NOT mobile.
 
 There is (or maybe was by now) an Ofcom consultation asking whether this
 should be changed, the mobile operators will fight it, telcos and other
 users will be asking for it to be changed.
 
 Of course this is UK specific, other countries have more lenient
 policies (I think Belgium allow gateways, France doesn't allow any kind,
 and some allow them with the co-operation of the operators).
 
 
 Steve
 
 
 

 -- 
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 Technical Manager
 Leading Edge Internet

 Web   http://www.lei.net.au http://support.lei.net.au
 Direct+61 2 6163 6162  Support 1 300 662 415
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Remco Barende
Not really, their suggested retail price is USD 300 for the analog unit, 
probably because of the intelligent stuff in the box (which we do not 
need when using *).


At USD 300 you can find SIP capable devices, for an analog unit the SIPCE 
is 3x more expensive than the unit we were discussing.


But thanks for the tip!


On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Cory Andrews wrote:

SICPE has a new product called the GSM Call Director that may be of interest 
to GSM enthusiasts.


http://www.sipcpe.com/fx300GSM.html

Cory Andrews
Purchasing Manager
++
VOIPSupply.com
A Division of b2 Technologies
454 Sonwil Drive
Buffalo, NY 14225

direct - 716.250.3402
mobile - 716.907.4054
email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIM - b2Cory

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To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' 
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale


We have ran out of stock in our office in UK. All GSM Gateway are now being
send from HK therefore the shipping will be more expensive than usual.



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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:18 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

Chris Bagnall wrote:

Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with
external antenna.
Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box
without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of
phonecell or nokia pbx etc..
Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.



Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIM

cards

lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.

Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day

delivery,

or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for an item
apparently located in the UK.

Regards,

Chris


We were working in the area (Reading) and offered to pay cash and
collect from their site, but the response was;

that they could only be sent direct from the far east

We weren't prepared to take the risk, I mean they turned down cash!

Bails

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)

Remco Barende wrote:
Not really, their suggested retail price is USD 300 for the analog 
unit, probably because of the intelligent stuff in the box (which we 
do not need when using *).


At USD 300 you can find SIP capable devices, for an analog unit the 
SIPCE is 3x more expensive than the unit we were discussing.



Where can I find the $300 SIP capable units?

--
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NetConcepts
(264) 497-5670 Fax: (264) 497-8463
Int:  (305) 704-7249 Fax: (815)301-9759 
Cell: 264-235-5670
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread JCC
I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? VOIP calls are
pretty inexpensive as they are now. Is the use of a gateway intended as a
backup incase a wired network connection goes down? I have being looking
around the net for information on this. Anyone out there using it and if so
you can please share with me how you use this technology? Any information
will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jay

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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

Remco Barende wrote:
 Not really, their suggested retail price is USD 300 for the analog 
 unit, probably because of the intelligent stuff in the box (which we 
 do not need when using *).

 At USD 300 you can find SIP capable devices, for an analog unit the 
 SIPCE is 3x more expensive than the unit we were discussing.

Where can I find the $300 SIP capable units?

-- 
Chris Mason
NetConcepts
(264) 497-5670 Fax: (264) 497-8463
Int:  (305) 704-7249 Fax: (815)301-9759 
Cell: 264-235-5670
Yahoo IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Barnwell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 07:35 -0500, JCC wrote:
 I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? VOIP calls are
 pretty inexpensive as they are now. Is the use of a gateway intended as a
 backup incase a wired network connection goes down? I have being looking
 around the net for information on this. Anyone out there using it and if so
 you can please share with me how you use this technology? Any information
 will be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jay

Hi Jay,

I use them because:

Calls between mobiles on our package are free. Calls from * to mobile
routed via ITSP aren't. If I route them via a GSM gateway then we don't
pay any call charges for calls to any of our mobile people. Instead we
pay about £14 p.c.m. for the extra SIM card, which we save in about 2
days.

Cheers

Pete

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Remco Barende

VOIP - GSM calls may be cheap if you call to China.

When you call a cell in The Netherlands it will cost you USD 0.25 per 
minute. I am located in NL therefore a lot of calls go to NL mobiles.


You can buy sim cards that offer minutes for USD 0.02 per minute, if you 
can recommend a carrier that offers VOIP - NL GSM calls for that amount I 
will be very happy :)




On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, JCC wrote:


I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? VOIP calls are
pretty inexpensive as they are now. Is the use of a gateway intended as a
backup incase a wired network connection goes down? I have being looking
around the net for information on this. Anyone out there using it and if so
you can please share with me how you use this technology? Any information
will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jay

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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:52 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

Remco Barende wrote:

Not really, their suggested retail price is USD 300 for the analog
unit, probably because of the intelligent stuff in the box (which we
do not need when using *).

At USD 300 you can find SIP capable devices, for an analog unit the
SIPCE is 3x more expensive than the unit we were discussing.


Where can I find the $300 SIP capable units?



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Bagnall
 I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? 
 VOIP calls are pretty inexpensive as they are now.

It largely depends on the country you're calling. Here in the UK, calls to
mobiles are maintained at an artificially high rate because the terminating
network (the mobile networks) get a cut of call revenue for calls *to* your
mobile. By contrast, in the US, the mobile customer often pays a small
charge per minute on incoming calls (as I understand the market over there).

You'll also find in the UK the mobile phone market is heavily subsidized by
the networks such that you can get phones for free if you sign up to 12
month contracts. I often find that it's cost-effective to get a new contract
every 12 months (with a free phone), even if I don't want the phone. Flog
the phone on ebay and you've got a spare SIM with lots of inclusive minutes
for almost nothing.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:23:26PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote:

  I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? 
  VOIP calls are pretty inexpensive as they are now.
 It largely depends on the country you're calling. Here in the UK, calls to
 mobiles are maintained at an artificially high rate because the terminating
 network (the mobile networks) get a cut of call revenue for calls *to* your
 mobile. By contrast, in the US, the mobile customer often pays a small
 charge per minute on incoming calls (as I understand the market over there).
 You'll also find in the UK the mobile phone market is heavily subsidized by
 the networks such that you can get phones for free if you sign up to 12
 month contracts. I often find that it's cost-effective to get a new contract
 every 12 months (with a free phone), even if I don't want the phone. Flog
 the phone on ebay and you've got a spare SIM with lots of inclusive minutes
 for almost nothing.

In the UK the wholesale rates are set by Ofcom (like the FCC), which
works out about 7p'ish per minute.

However the operators can offer retail bundles (including phones) and
for a monthly contract they throw in various ammounts of cross network
minutes (or free to their own network or whatever). With clever
dial-plans and multiple terminals connected to multiple networks you can
generally get free calls to mobile users (basically clever least cost
routing, time of day sometimes needs to be taken into account as well).

However there are some disadvantages, the main being you cant set CLI of
the outgoing call as it will always be tied to the SIM of the mobile
terminal.

Another is that you can NOT run a GSM gateway (as they're known) for 3rd
parties. So if you want to connect your office PBX to a gateway to make
use of cheap mobile termination for your own company that's fine, but as
an ITSP (or traditional telco) you can not allow 3rd party traffic to
utilise a gateway. If networks find you are using a gateway (as a telco)
they can cut it off, no questions asked. Gateways have been determined
to be fixed infrastructure, therefore NOT mobile.

There is (or maybe was by now) an Ofcom consultation asking whether this
should be changed, the mobile operators will fight it, telcos and other
users will be asking for it to be changed.

Of course this is UK specific, other countries have more lenient
policies (I think Belgium allow gateways, France doesn't allow any kind,
and some allow them with the co-operation of the operators).


Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Adrian Carter

Is anyone aware of the details of this in Australia?

I'd love to be able to let tech's have calls route straight to their
mobiles when 'in-house'

Steve Kennedy wrote:


On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:23:26PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote:

 

I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? 
VOIP calls are pretty inexpensive as they are now.
 


It largely depends on the country you're calling. Here in the UK, calls to
mobiles are maintained at an artificially high rate because the terminating
network (the mobile networks) get a cut of call revenue for calls *to* your
mobile. By contrast, in the US, the mobile customer often pays a small
charge per minute on incoming calls (as I understand the market over there).
You'll also find in the UK the mobile phone market is heavily subsidized by
the networks such that you can get phones for free if you sign up to 12
month contracts. I often find that it's cost-effective to get a new contract
every 12 months (with a free phone), even if I don't want the phone. Flog
the phone on ebay and you've got a spare SIM with lots of inclusive minutes
for almost nothing.
   



In the UK the wholesale rates are set by Ofcom (like the FCC), which
works out about 7p'ish per minute.

However the operators can offer retail bundles (including phones) and
for a monthly contract they throw in various ammounts of cross network
minutes (or free to their own network or whatever). With clever
dial-plans and multiple terminals connected to multiple networks you can
generally get free calls to mobile users (basically clever least cost
routing, time of day sometimes needs to be taken into account as well).

However there are some disadvantages, the main being you cant set CLI of
the outgoing call as it will always be tied to the SIM of the mobile
terminal.

Another is that you can NOT run a GSM gateway (as they're known) for 3rd
parties. So if you want to connect your office PBX to a gateway to make
use of cheap mobile termination for your own company that's fine, but as
an ITSP (or traditional telco) you can not allow 3rd party traffic to
utilise a gateway. If networks find you are using a gateway (as a telco)
they can cut it off, no questions asked. Gateways have been determined
to be fixed infrastructure, therefore NOT mobile.

There is (or maybe was by now) an Ofcom consultation asking whether this
should be changed, the mobile operators will fight it, telcos and other
users will be asking for it to be changed.

Of course this is UK specific, other countries have more lenient
policies (I think Belgium allow gateways, France doesn't allow any kind,
and some allow them with the co-operation of the operators).


Steve

 



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver



However there are some disadvantages, the main being you cant set CLI of
the outgoing call as it will always be tied to the SIM of the mobile
terminal.
 


That's true. You can however choose to mask the caller ID.



Another is that you can NOT run a GSM gateway (as they're known) for 3rd
parties. So if you want to connect your office PBX to a gateway to make
use of cheap mobile termination for your own company that's fine, but as
an ITSP (or traditional telco) you can not allow 3rd party traffic to
utilise a gateway. If networks find you are using a gateway (as a telco)
they can cut it off, no questions asked. Gateways have been determined
to be fixed infrastructure, therefore NOT mobile.
 

Yes, mobile grey routing is illegal in the UK. However it DOES happen in 
the UK, and on a large scale (you're talking dozens of E1s worth of 
capacity), I can guarantee you. I've seen it!




Of course this is UK specific, other countries have more lenient
policies (I think Belgium allow gateways, France doesn't allow any kind,
and some allow them with the co-operation of the operators).
 

France fully allows GSM gateways. In fact one of the leading IP/GSM 
manufacturer, Quescom, is French. Their latest product, the SIM server, 
is just mad: it is able so auto-swap SIM cards and IMEI remotely to 
simulate somebody roaming around and stay below mobile providers' radar.


The ARCEP (France's flavor of regulators) solution to the problem is to 
force biggest mobile phone companies to lower their off net wholesale 
rates (over a span of 3 years) until it closes the GSM gateway economic 
space.



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 06:48:27PM +0400, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:

 However there are some disadvantages, the main being you cant set CLI of
 the outgoing call as it will always be tied to the SIM of the mobile
 terminal.
 That's true. You can however choose to mask the caller ID.

Yup, for telcos (in the broadest sense) offering a service, generally
people want to be able to call back the number that dialed them.

 Another is that you can NOT run a GSM gateway (as they're known) for 3rd
 parties. So if you want to connect your office PBX to a gateway to make
 use of cheap mobile termination for your own company that's fine, but as
 an ITSP (or traditional telco) you can not allow 3rd party traffic to
 utilise a gateway. If networks find you are using a gateway (as a telco)
 they can cut it off, no questions asked. Gateways have been determined
 to be fixed infrastructure, therefore NOT mobile.
 Yes, mobile grey routing is illegal in the UK. However it DOES happen in 
 the UK, and on a large scale (you're talking dozens of E1s worth of 
 capacity), I can guarantee you. I've seen it!

Of course it does, but generally the networks can find them quite
quickly (as local cells get congested) and they cut off the SIMs.

 Of course this is UK specific, other countries have more lenient
 policies (I think Belgium allow gateways, France doesn't allow any kind,
 and some allow them with the co-operation of the operators).
 France fully allows GSM gateways. In fact one of the leading IP/GSM 
 manufacturer, Quescom, is French. Their latest product, the SIM server, 
 is just mad: it is able so auto-swap SIM cards and IMEI remotely to 
 simulate somebody roaming around and stay below mobile providers' radar.

OK wrong way round there ...


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Robert Augustyn
Are GSM gateways allowed in Canada?
And can we resell it?
Robert


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Steve Kennedy
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:17 AM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale
 
 On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:23:26PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote:
 
   I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? 
   VOIP calls are pretty inexpensive as they are now.
  It largely depends on the country you're calling. Here in the UK, 
  calls to mobiles are maintained at an artificially high 
 rate because 
  the terminating network (the mobile networks) get a cut of call 
  revenue for calls *to* your mobile. By contrast, in the US, 
 the mobile 
  customer often pays a small charge per minute on incoming 
 calls (as I understand the market over there).
  You'll also find in the UK the mobile phone market is heavily 
  subsidized by the networks such that you can get phones for free if 
  you sign up to 12 month contracts. I often find that it's 
  cost-effective to get a new contract every 12 months (with a free 
  phone), even if I don't want the phone. Flog the phone on ebay and 
  you've got a spare SIM with lots of inclusive minutes for 
 almost nothing.
 
 In the UK the wholesale rates are set by Ofcom (like the 
 FCC), which works out about 7p'ish per minute.
 
 However the operators can offer retail bundles (including 
 phones) and for a monthly contract they throw in various 
 ammounts of cross network minutes (or free to their own 
 network or whatever). With clever dial-plans and multiple 
 terminals connected to multiple networks you can generally 
 get free calls to mobile users (basically clever least cost 
 routing, time of day sometimes needs to be taken into account 
 as well).
 
 However there are some disadvantages, the main being you cant 
 set CLI of the outgoing call as it will always be tied to the 
 SIM of the mobile terminal.
 
 Another is that you can NOT run a GSM gateway (as they're 
 known) for 3rd parties. So if you want to connect your office 
 PBX to a gateway to make use of cheap mobile termination for 
 your own company that's fine, but as an ITSP (or traditional 
 telco) you can not allow 3rd party traffic to utilise a 
 gateway. If networks find you are using a gateway (as a 
 telco) they can cut it off, no questions asked. Gateways have 
 been determined to be fixed infrastructure, therefore NOT mobile.
 
 There is (or maybe was by now) an Ofcom consultation asking 
 whether this should be changed, the mobile operators will 
 fight it, telcos and other users will be asking for it to be changed.
 
 Of course this is UK specific, other countries have more 
 lenient policies (I think Belgium allow gateways, France 
 doesn't allow any kind, and some allow them with the 
 co-operation of the operators).
 
 
 Steve
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Jonathan Attwood
Couple of ways I use mine:

My mobile operator has just started charging for calls to Freephone
numbers. Therefore, I call into my GSM terminal, free of charge then
hop back out on VoIP or PSTN to make the Freephone call.

My wife has a pay-as-you-go mobile. She can ring a DID on my Asterisk,
which will never answer, so costs her (me) nothing. Then Asterisk
checks the CLI. If it's a CLI from an allowed list, Asterisk will call
her back, using the GSM terminal, out of my inclusive minutes  give
her a dial tone. She can then ring anywhere she likes, as if she were
still at home.




On 1/6/06, JCC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't get it. What is the advantage of using a GSM gateway? VOIP calls are
 pretty inexpensive as they are now. Is the use of a gateway intended as a
 backup incase a wired network connection goes down? I have being looking
 around the net for information on this. Anyone out there using it and if so
 you can please share with me how you use this technology? Any information
 will be appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Jay

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 Remco Barende wrote:
  Not really, their suggested retail price is USD 300 for the analog
  unit, probably because of the intelligent stuff in the box (which we
  do not need when using *).
 
  At USD 300 you can find SIP capable devices, for an analog unit the
  SIPCE is 3x more expensive than the unit we were discussing.
 
 Where can I find the $300 SIP capable units?

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Bagnall
Has anyone using a GSM gateway incorporated some time monitors into their
dialplan?

For example, if a SIM card has 400 inclusive minutes to any network in a
month, I want to make sure that Asterisk doesn't go beyond that unless it's
for calls to the same network (once you're out of inclusive minutes,
cross-network call charges skyrocket, whilst calls to the same network are
still competitively priced).

How might one go about configuring that in the dialplan?

Regards,

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)

Chris Bagnall wrote:

Has anyone using a GSM gateway incorporated some time monitors into their
dialplan?

For example, if a SIM card has 400 inclusive minutes to any network in a
month, I want to make sure that Asterisk doesn't go beyond that unless it's
for calls to the same network (once you're out of inclusive minutes,
cross-network call charges skyrocket, whilst calls to the same network are
still competitively priced).

  

Should be an easy agi to write.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-06 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:20:24PM +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote:

 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 15:57 -0500, Cory Andrews wrote:
  SICPE has a new product called the GSM Call Director that may be of 
  interest 
  to GSM enthusiasts.
  http://www.sipcpe.com/fx300GSM.html
 Looks nice, doing triple band and so on.
 I presume it works like an mobile-phone.
 Does the counter part also exists?
 The devices to which mobile phones and gateways like above communicate..
 I mean a GSM basestation (BSC, BTS), in order to be your own
 gsm-provider

Have a look at a company called IP.Access, they make a picocell (BSC)
for about GBP 2,000. However you'll also need an MSC and probably a
license to utilise ther mobile spectrum (well you do in the UK) [and all
the other infrastructure required to run a GSM network - HLR, SMSC...]


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread Chris Bagnall
 Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with 
 external antenna.
 Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
 Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box 
 without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of 
 phonecell or nokia pbx etc..
 Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIM cards
lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.

Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day delivery,
or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for an item
apparently located in the UK.

Regards,

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread bails

Chris Bagnall wrote:
Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with 
external antenna.

Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box 
without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of 
phonecell or nokia pbx etc..

Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.



Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIM cards
lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.

Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day delivery,
or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for an item
apparently located in the UK.

Regards,

Chris


We were working in the area (Reading) and offered to pay cash and 
collect from their site, but the response was;


that they could only be sent direct from the far east

We weren't prepared to take the risk, I mean they turned down cash!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread bbench
On Thursday 05 January 2006 17:09, Chris Bagnall wrote:
  Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with
  external antenna.
  Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
  Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box
  without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of
  phonecell or nokia pbx etc..
  Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

 Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
 seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIM
 cards lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.

 Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day
 delivery, or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for
 an item apparently located in the UK.
I have got one and and is working fine. It's exactly for
cards lying around still inside their 12-month contracts..
Actually it's full extend PnP-SIM-card-GSM-gateway(I forgot to unlock the 
pin:) so keep this in mind). There are 2 fxs ports, but I use just one; 
points to a SPA3000. The other could go to a phone set, too(I did test it)
And that's it... pretty much .  Anything else you want to do is * job and dial 
plans. When one calls from outside, first is getting authenticated against
CallerId and could then dial internal or any other destination.

It's a week I have it and works no problem. It is a little big, but much 
cheaper than other solutions, I have checked around.

The one I have came from HK during Xmas and took a little longer, but 
the freight was fine with me because I like things that just work.
Hope that helps,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver



I have got one and and is working fine. It's exactly for
cards lying around still inside their 12-month contracts..
Actually it's full extend PnP-SIM-card-GSM-gateway(I forgot to unlock the 
pin:) so keep this in mind). There are 2 fxs ports, but I use just one; 
points to a SPA3000. The other could go to a phone set, too(I did test it)
And that's it... pretty much .  Anything else you want to do is * job and dial 
plans. When one calls from outside, first is getting authenticated against

CallerId and could then dial internal or any other destination.

It's a week I have it and works no problem. It is a little big, but much 
cheaper than other solutions, I have checked around.
 

Sounds pretty cool! Is the antenna detachable? Can you replace it with a 
longer antenna which can be stuck somewhere with decent GSM reception?


Cheers,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread stotaro




 I have got one and and is working fine. It's exactly for
 cards lying around still inside their 12-month contracts..
 Actually it's full extend PnP-SIM-card-GSM-gateway(I forgot to unlock the
 pin:) so keep this in mind). There are 2 fxs ports, but I use just one;
 points to a SPA3000. The other could go to a phone set, too(I did test
it)
 And that's it... pretty much .  Anything else you want to do is * job and
dial
 plans. When one calls from outside, first is getting authenticated
against
 CallerId and could then dial internal or any other destination.
 
 It's a week I have it and works no problem. It is a little big, but much
 cheaper than other solutions, I have checked around.
 
 
 Sounds pretty cool! Is the antenna detachable? Can you replace it with a
 longer antenna which can be stuck somewhere with decent GSM reception?

 Cheers,
 Jean-Michel.


Can it be used to send SMS via asterisk?

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread bbench
On Friday 06 January 2006 00:19, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:
 I have got one and and is working fine. It's exactly for
 cards lying around still inside their 12-month contracts..
 Actually it's full extend PnP-SIM-card-GSM-gateway(I forgot to unlock the
 pin:) so keep this in mind). There are 2 fxs ports, but I use just one;
 points to a SPA3000. The other could go to a phone set, too(I did test it)
 And that's it... pretty much .  Anything else you want to do is * job and
  dial plans. When one calls from outside, first is getting authenticated
  against CallerId and could then dial internal or any other destination.
 
 It's a week I have it and works no problem. It is a little big, but much
 cheaper than other solutions, I have checked around.

 Sounds pretty cool! Is the antenna detachable? Can you replace it with a
 longer antenna which can be stuck somewhere with decent GSM reception?
For Remco, no I don't know who the producer is, but 
as far as I can tell the box is Chinese or something close.

The antenna is 30cm tall, on magnetic stand connected to a cable 
about 1.5m long, which could become longer I guess. One could substitute the
body with a longer on, unscrewing it from the stand
I'm keeping it sticked upon my metal desk light, hanging from the ceiling
upside down, but looking through the window for a gsm cell :)
Hope you'll like it.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread bbench
On Thursday 05 January 2006 21:31, stotaro wrote:
  I have got one and and is working fine. It's exactly for
  cards lying around still inside their 12-month contracts..
  Actually it's full extend PnP-SIM-card-GSM-gateway(I forgot to unlock
   the pin:) so keep this in mind). There are 2 fxs ports, but I use just
   one; points to a SPA3000. The other could go to a phone set, too(I did
   test

 it)

  And that's it... pretty much .  Anything else you want to do is * job
   and

 dial

  plans. When one calls from outside, first is getting authenticated

 against

  CallerId and could then dial internal or any other destination.
  
  It's a week I have it and works no problem. It is a little big, but much
  cheaper than other solutions, I have checked around.
 
  Sounds pretty cool! Is the antenna detachable? Can you replace it with a
  longer antenna which can be stuck somewhere with decent GSM reception?
 
  Cheers,
  Jean-Michel.

 Can it be used to send SMS via asterisk?
Not by it self (It is rather cellsocket kind of thing),
but with an appropriate sms application, why not?
i.e. see http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux_sms.html
for hints.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread Sam Tam
We have ran out of stock in our office in UK. All GSM Gateway are now being
send from HK therefore the shipping will be more expensive than usual.



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Chris Bagnall wrote:
Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with 
external antenna.
Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box 
without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of 
phonecell or nokia pbx etc..
Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.
 
 
 Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
 seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIM
cards
 lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.
 
 Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day
delivery,
 or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for an item
 apparently located in the UK.
 
 Regards,
 
 Chris

We were working in the area (Reading) and offered to pay cash and 
collect from their site, but the response was;

that they could only be sent direct from the far east

We weren't prepared to take the risk, I mean they turned down cash!

Bails

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread Cory Andrews
SICPE has a new product called the GSM Call Director that may be of interest 
to GSM enthusiasts.


http://www.sipcpe.com/fx300GSM.html

Cory Andrews
Purchasing Manager
++
VOIPSupply.com
A Division of b2 Technologies
454 Sonwil Drive
Buffalo, NY 14225

direct - 716.250.3402
mobile - 716.907.4054
email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIM - b2Cory

- Original Message - 
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To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale


We have ran out of stock in our office in UK. All GSM Gateway are now being
send from HK therefore the shipping will be more expensive than usual.



-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bails
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:18 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

Chris Bagnall wrote:

Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with
external antenna.
Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box
without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of
phonecell or nokia pbx etc..
Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.



Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIM

cards

lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.

Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day

delivery,

or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for an item
apparently located in the UK.

Regards,

Chris


We were working in the area (Reading) and offered to pay cash and
collect from their site, but the response was;

that they could only be sent direct from the far east

We weren't prepared to take the risk, I mean they turned down cash!

Bails

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread John Novack

I gather from the information that this is not usable in the US market,.
It is NOT a world band GSM .

John Novack


Sam Tam wrote:


We have ran out of stock in our office in UK. All GSM Gateway are now being
send from HK therefore the shipping will be more expensive than usual.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bails
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:18 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

Chris Bagnall wrote:
 

Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with 
external antenna.

Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box 
without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of 
phonecell or nokia pbx etc..

Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.
 


Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIM
   


cards
 


lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.

Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day
   


delivery,
 


or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for an item
apparently located in the UK.

Regards,

Chris
   



We were working in the area (Reading) and offered to pay cash and 
collect from their site, but the response was;


that they could only be sent direct from the far east

We weren't prepared to take the risk, I mean they turned down cash!

Bails

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread Rusty Dekema
$300 seems pretty expensive for such a device, especially since someone using it in conjunction with Asterisk would most likely not need its built-in routing features. It's a nice looking device though! Thanks,
RustyOn 1/5/06, Cory Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SICPE has a new product called the GSM Call Director that may be of interestto GSM enthusiasts.http://www.sipcpe.com/fx300GSM.htmlCory AndrewsPurchasing Manager
++VOIPSupply.comA Division of b2 Technologies454 Sonwil DriveBuffalo, NY 14225direct - 716.250.3402mobile - 716.907.4054email - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM - b2Cory- Original Message -From: Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:30 PMSubject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for saleWe have ran out of stock in our office in UK. All GSM Gateway are now being
send from HK therefore the shipping will be more expensive than usual.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bailsSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:18 AMTo: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for saleChris Bagnall wrote:Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode withexternal antenna.Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the boxwithout any configuration. So should be good alternatively ofphonecell or nokia pbx etc..Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.
 Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of the spare SIMcards lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.
 Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-daydelivery, or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit high for an item apparently located in the UK.
 Regards, ChrisWe were working in the area (Reading) and offered to pay cash andcollect from their site, but the response was;that they could only be sent direct from the far east
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread Robert Augustyn
What is the price and availability?
robert 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Cory Andrews
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:58 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale
 
 SICPE has a new product called the GSM Call Director that may 
 be of interest to GSM enthusiasts.
 
 http://www.sipcpe.com/fx300GSM.html
 
 Cory Andrews
 Purchasing Manager
 ++
 VOIPSupply.com
 A Division of b2 Technologies
 454 Sonwil Drive
 Buffalo, NY 14225
 
 direct - 716.250.3402
 mobile - 716.907.4054
 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AIM - b2Cory
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' 
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale
 
 
 We have ran out of stock in our office in UK. All GSM Gateway 
 are now being
 send from HK therefore the shipping will be more expensive than usual.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bails
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:18 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale
 
 Chris Bagnall wrote:
 Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with
 external antenna.
 Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.
 Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box
 without any configuration. So should be good alternatively of
 phonecell or nokia pbx etc..
 Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.
 
 
  Has anyone bought one of these and able to offer some feedback? I'm
  seriously considering a GSM gateway to take advantage of 
 the spare SIM
 cards
  lying around still inside their 12-month contracts.
 
  Looking at the website in question, delivery is £17.37 for a 6-day
 delivery,
  or £10 for a 30+ day delivery, both of which seem a bit 
 high for an item
  apparently located in the UK.
 
  Regards,
 
  Chris
 
 We were working in the area (Reading) and offered to pay cash and
 collect from their site, but the response was;
 
 that they could only be sent direct from the far east
 
 We weren't prepared to take the risk, I mean they turned down cash!
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-05 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 15:57 -0500, Cory Andrews wrote:
 SICPE has a new product called the GSM Call Director that may be of interest 
 to GSM enthusiasts.
 
 http://www.sipcpe.com/fx300GSM.html
 

Looks nice, doing triple band and so on.
I presume it works like an mobile-phone.
Does the counter part also exists?
The devices to which mobile phones and gateways like above communicate..
I mean a GSM basestation (BSC, BTS), in order to be your own
gsm-provider

HW
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[Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2006-01-03 Thread Sam Tam


Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.

Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
etc..

Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

I have limited stock therefore please act quick to avoid disappointment 

Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency 
Peak power: 2 W
Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
Sencitivity:-104dB
Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
Condition temperature:0C~+40C
Working humidity:45%-90%
Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
Circumstance noise:60 dB
Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer ‘s optional)
Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
port(optional)

For more info please email gsm AT cyber-telecom.net for more info or visit
www.cyber-telecom.net to purchase right away.

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[Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-12-04 Thread Sam Tam

Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

Brand new unit and all of them will be tested before dispatch.

Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
etc..

Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

I have limited stock therefore please act quick to avoid disappointment 

Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency 
Peak power: 2 W
Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
Sencitivity:-104dB
Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
Condition temperature:0C~+40C
Working humidity:45%-90%
Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
Circumstance noise:60 dB
Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer ‘s optional)
Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
port(optional)

For more info please email gsm AT cyber-telecom.net for more info or visit
www.cyber-telecom.net to purchase right away.

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[Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Sam Tam

Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

Brand new unit and just been out for testing only.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
etc..

Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

I have only got 2-3 lefts as they are excess stocks hence to avoid
disappointment 

Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency 
Peak power: 2 W
Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
Sencitivity:-104dB
Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
Condition temperature:0C~+40C
Working humidity:45%-90%
Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
Circumstance noise:60 dB
Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer ‘s optional)
Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
port(optional)


Sam





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread danny zak
send one over

i'll wire it

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 12:50:29PM -, Sam Tam wrote:
 
 Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.
 
 Brand new unit and just been out for testing only.
 Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
 configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
 etc..
 
 Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.
 
 I have only got 2-3 lefts as they are excess stocks hence to avoid
 disappointment 
 
 Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency 
 Peak power: 2 W
 Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
 Sencitivity:-104dB
 Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
 Condition temperature:0C~+40C
 Working humidity:45%-90%
 Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
 Circumstance noise:60 dB
 Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
 AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
 Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer ‘s optional)
 Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
 Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
 port(optional)
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Rusty Dekema
I wish I lived in a 900/1800 country; I'd be all over this! 

Unfortunately I am not ready to move to Europe over a £60 GSM gateway, but thanks anyway.

-RustyOn 11/17/05, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.Brand new unit and just been out for testing only.Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without anyconfiguration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
etc..Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.I have only got 2-3 lefts as they are excess stocks hence to avoiddisappointmentWorking mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency
Peak power: 2 WPower consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mASencitivity:-104dBInner pressure :DC 12V/1.5ACondition temperature:0C~+40CWorking humidity:45%-90%Atmosphere pressure:86~106PkaCircumstance noise:60 dB
Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dBAC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer 's optional)Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plugAntenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Sam Tam








We also have CDMA gateway. Do contact us
for more info if you are interested.











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Dekema
Sent: 17 November 2005 14:45
To: Asterisk
 Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM
Gateway / Terminal for sale





I wish I lived in a
900/1800 country; I'd be all over this! 

Unfortunately I am not ready to move to Europe
over a £60 GSM gateway, but thanks anyway.

-Rusty



On 11/17/05, Sam Tam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

Brand new unit and just been out for testing only.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx 
etc..

Units are located in UK
and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

I have only got 2-3 lefts as they are excess stocks hence to avoid
disappointment

Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency 
Peak power: 2 W
Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
Sencitivity:-104dB
Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
Condition temperature:0C~+40C
Working humidity:45%-90%
Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
Circumstance noise:60 dB 
Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer 's optional)
Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC 
port(optional)


Sam





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Rusty Dekema
Oh, you do? How much did you have in mind for that? What band(s) does
it run on? Alternatively, if you have any 800 (850) or 1900 MHz GSM
gateways, I'd be interested in hearing about it too.

Thanks,
RustyOn 11/17/05, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



















We also have CDMA gateway. Do contact us
for more info if you are interested.











From: 
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Rusty Dekema
Sent: 17 November 2005 14:45
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Gateway / Terminal for sale





I wish I lived in a
900/1800 country; I'd be all over this! 

Unfortunately I am not ready to move to Europe
over a £60 GSM gateway, but thanks anyway.

-Rusty



On 11/17/05, Sam Tam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

Brand new unit and just been out for testing only.
Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx 
etc..

Units are located in UK
and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

I have only got 2-3 lefts as they are excess stocks hence to avoid
disappointment

Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency 
Peak power: 2 W
Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
Sencitivity:-104dB
Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
Condition temperature:0C~+40C
Working humidity:45%-90%
Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
Circumstance noise:60 dB 
Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer 's optional)
Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC 
port(optional)


Sam





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Rusty Dekema
(Sorry; meant to reply privately.) 

-RustyOn 11/17/05, Rusty Dekema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, you do? How much did you have in mind for that? What band(s) does
it run on? Alternatively, if you have any 800 (850) or 1900 MHz GSM
gateways, I'd be interested in hearing about it too.

Thanks,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Jose Limeres
Hi,
I am interested. Could you please send me over brand and model? I will
check it out and confirm order back by email.

Jose Limeres
M.: +34 690-351498
SPAIN
www.boratelecom.com


On 17/11/05, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

 Brand new unit and just been out for testing only.
 Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
 configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
 etc..

 Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

 I have only got 2-3 lefts as they are excess stocks hence to avoid
 disappointment

 Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency
 Peak power: 2 W
 Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
 Sencitivity:-104dB
 Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
 Condition temperature:0C~+40C
 Working humidity:45%-90%
 Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
 Circumstance noise:60 dB
 Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
 AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
 Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer 's optional)
 Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
 Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
 port(optional)


 Sam





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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Sam Tam
If you drop me an email on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then I will sent you some
more detail.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Limeres
Sent: 17 November 2005 16:21
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

Hi,
I am interested. Could you please send me over brand and model? I will
check it out and confirm order back by email.

Jose Limeres
M.: +34 690-351498
SPAIN
www.boratelecom.com


On 17/11/05, Sam Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Single port GSM Gateway support 900 / 1800 GSM mode with external antenna.

 Brand new unit and just been out for testing only.
 Extremely easy to setup and can be used out of the box without any
 configuration. So should be good alternatively of phonecell or nokia pbx
 etc..

 Units are located in UK and £60 GBP per unit excluding shipping.

 I have only got 2-3 lefts as they are excess stocks hence to avoid
 disappointment

 Working mode: GSM 900 MHz or GSM 1800MHz double frequency
 Peak power: 2 W
 Power consume: static state 25mA, launch 600mA
 Sencitivity:-104dB
 Inner pressure :DC 12V/1.5A
 Condition temperature:0C~+40C
 Working humidity:45%-90%
 Atmosphere pressure:86~106Pka
 Circumstance noise:60 dB
 Wireless decibel :3.5dB or 12dB
 AC power:220V ac+-10%,frequency 47-54Hz;110Vac/60Hz(optional)
 Power port: China, USA, UK, (by customer 's optional)
 Connection means:RJ-11 telephone line plug
 Antenna connection: SMA antenna tie-in, N type port(optional).TNC
 port(optional)


 Sam





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RE: [Asterisk-Users] GSM Gateway / Terminal for sale

2005-11-17 Thread Sam Tam








The 1900 is the tri band one right?

Can you drop me an email and I will work
out a price for the tri band one for you











From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Dekema
Sent: 17 November 2005 15:35
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 Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] GSM
Gateway / Terminal for sale





(Sorry; meant to reply
privately.) 

-Rusty



On 11/17/05, Rusty
Dekema [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Oh, you do? How much did you have in mind for that? What band(s) does
it run on? Alternatively, if you have any 800 (850) or 1900 MHz GSM gateways,
I'd be interested in hearing about it too.

Thanks,




Rusty

















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