Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI phones on asterisk

2006-11-11 Thread Jorge Mendoza
Andrew,

Could you explain what problems do you have with Hitachi 5000?. We have
carried out extensive tests with Hitachi 5000 at  customer location who
is planning to install more than 120 wifi phones.  It is a mining
company at 4200 mts altitude, covering the mining camp, an small village
and the road within.  Test were coverage, roaming, battery life, easy to
use and Nortel-Asterisk integration. We had good success. Radios were
Proxim 4000 and 700.

For us is very important if you point out a problem.  Are we missing
something?.

Jorge Mendoza

 

Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
 I am surprised that you have had good success perhaps you haven't
 done proper testing?

 On 11/10/06, *Jerry Geis*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have used WIP300, hitachi 5000 wireless phones on
 asterisk and have had good success.

 However, I am looking for a WIFI phone with integrated
 belt clip. Has anyone found any?

 I have tried after market clips and holders and those just
 don't work.

 THanks for sharing if someone has found something
 that works with asterisk.

 Jerry

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[asterisk-users] WIFI phones on asterisk

2006-11-10 Thread Jerry Geis

I have used WIP300, hitachi 5000 wireless phones on
asterisk and have had good success.

However, I am looking for a WIFI phone with integrated
belt clip. Has anyone found any?

I have tried after market clips and holders and those just
don't work.

THanks for sharing if someone has found something
that works with asterisk.

Jerry

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Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI phones on asterisk

2006-11-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 03:45:18PM -0500, Jerry Geis wrote:
 I have used WIP300, hitachi 5000 wireless phones on
 asterisk and have had good success.
 
 However, I am looking for a WIFI phone with integrated
 belt clip. Has anyone found any?
 
 I have tried after market clips and holders and those just
 don't work.

You are very unlikely, IMO, *to* find anything: doing a *proper* belt
clip, that can deal with the massive variations in belt sizes and
thicknesses, and having a rugged enough primary housing to attach it
to, are both major problems which militate against permanently mounted
clips -- at least at this point in the lifecycle of Wiphones.

And, to be clear: I haven't seen anything anywhere, no.

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Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI phones on asterisk

2006-11-10 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
I am surprised that you have had good success perhaps you haven't done proper testing?On 11/10/06, Jerry Geis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have used WIP300, hitachi 5000 wireless phones on
asterisk and have had good success.However, I am looking for a WIFI phone with integratedbelt clip. Has anyone found any?I have tried after market clips and holders and those justdon't work.
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Re: [asterisk-users] WiFi Phones (was Looking for Wireless Heaset for Polycom 501)

2006-10-26 Thread Pavel Jezek

I'm using 7920 with chan_skinny (from 1.4branch), it working quite well
I reported some chan_skinny bugs in bugtracker and I can confirm, that 
are solved very quickly :-)
Is true, that chan_skinny have less features that chan_sccp, but more 
important for me is active development/maintenance


we also use Nokia E70 (with latest firmware that solve issues especially 
with low bitrate codecs),
so I think, that these combo phones have great perspective and excelent 
price/usability ratio  ;-)

PJ




Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

Martin:

I had seen your other post and sent you a message off-list, but I 
never got
a response. What do you feel is the most lacking that does not make it 
ready

for a production enviroment.

-

I've been using a SIP deskphone in my office and usually some sort of 
ATA at
my house, both as the primary phone. I've also had mobile phones from 
almost

every carrier. Each one of these devices has offered just below the
reliability of the PSTN, maybe 96% vs 98% or so for the PSTN. But every
single WiFi phone I've tried has not gotten anywhere close to that. When
playing with these devices they are about 90% reliable, but for some odd
reason, moment I actually go to use it for a real call, something goes
wrong; the phone freezes or the network disconnects or it says its 
connected

but nothing happens when you try to place a call or the call is setup but
there is no audio, etc, etc, etc..  I just sort of figured that Nokia
would have gotten this one right.

Is there any chance you did not do this testing with the latest 
firmware? I

had heard that it really improves the SIP.

What is the potential market for a USD 200-300 WiFi SIP or IAX phone 
that is
known to be reliable. I haven't tested that many handsets, but the 
Linksys,
Pirelli, D-Link, 3Com, Neuf Twin, and who knows how many others are 
all made
by the same ODM so I don't think any of the variations might be any 
better.

There's a Samsung phone that was announced a while back but I can't find
anything of it, same for some Senao models and their site didn't load the
VoIP wifi page (404 error) months ago and is the same today. Cisco 
well
chan_sccp seems to have not been updated in 19 months and how 
feature-packed
is chan_skinny? Has anyone encountered a WiFi phone that is reliable 
besides

SpectraLink?


Regards,

Andrew

On 10/25/06, Martin Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2006-10-25 15:00:52 -0700, Andrew Joakimsen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:



 Also the Nokia E60 and E61 are hybird GSM/WiFi phones, when you have
WiFi
 coverage your calls will go over that technology and when you 
aren't its


 just a regular mobile. Works great if you only want to purchase one
device,
 and they both support Blackberry email.
I use the e60 and although it's slick and very promising, it's
definitely not ready for a production environment...

Marty


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[asterisk-users] WiFi Phones (was Looking for Wireless Heaset for Polycom 501)

2006-10-25 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
Martin:I had seen your other post and sent you a message off-list, but I never got a response. What do you feel is the most lacking that does not make it ready for a production enviroment.-I've been using a SIP deskphone in my office and usually some sort of ATA at my house, both as the primary phone. I've also had mobile phones from almost every carrier. Each one of these devices has offered just below the reliability of the PSTN, maybe 96% vs 98% or so for the PSTN. But every single WiFi phone I've tried has not gotten anywhere close to that. When playing with these devices they are about 90% reliable, but for some odd reason, moment I actually go to use it for a real call, something goes wrong; the phone freezes or the network disconnects or it says its connected but nothing happens when you try to place a call or the call is setup but there is no audio, etc, etc, etc.. I just sort of figured that Nokia would have gotten this one right.
Is there any chance you did not do this testing with the latest firmware? I had heard that it really improves the SIP.What is the potential market for a USD 200-300 WiFi SIP or IAX phone that is known to be reliable. I haven't tested that many handsets, but the Linksys, Pirelli, D-Link, 3Com, Neuf Twin, and who knows how many others are all made by the same ODM so I don't think any of the variations might be any better. There's a Samsung phone that was announced a while back but I can't find anything of it, same for some Senao models and their site didn't load the VoIP wifi page (404 error) months ago and is the same today. Cisco well chan_sccp seems to have not been updated in 19 months and how feature-packed is chan_skinny? Has anyone encountered a WiFi phone that is reliable besides SpectraLink? 
Regards,AndrewOn 10/25/06, Martin Joseph
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2006-10-25 15:00:52 -0700, Andrew Joakimsen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Also the Nokia E60 and E61 are hybird GSM/WiFi phones, when you have WiFi
 coverage your calls will go over that technology and when you aren't its
 just a regular mobile. Works great if you only want to purchase one device, and they both support Blackberry email.I use the e60 and although it's slick and very promising, it'sdefinitely not ready for a production environment...
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[Asterisk-Users] WiFi phones and WDS (Wireless Distribution System)

2006-03-21 Thread chip
I'm about to start working with WiFi phones on my Asterisk 
installations.

Can anyone tell me if they are using WiFi phones on wireless network 
that is extended with WDS and how well the phone handles jumping from 
access point to access point while on a call?

Do any WiFi phones support WPA encryption or are they all still under 
the impression they are only being used on public hot spots?

Thanks!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi phones and WDS (Wireless Distribution System)

2006-03-21 Thread Cory Andrews
There are a number of phones that support WPA, including the UTStarcom 
F1000G and F3000, and the Linksys WIP300 and WIP330, although current 
availability on these products is scarce.


I know a couple of integrators that are having good success on WIFI 
deployments using the D-Link DWS-1008 (8 port Wireless Switch with PoE) and 
the corresponding DWL-8220AP Access points.  In this scenario, 
administration of the AP's is handled through a central point on the switch.


Here are a few specs on the switch.

The D-Link MobileLAN solution is powered by Trapeze Networks and executes 
Trapeze Networks' Mobility System Software (MSS), which maintains the 
intelligence of the MobileLAN system. In addition to managing users' 
identities as they roam, the DWS-1008 configures and controls all aspects of 
the complementing DWL-8220AP Wireless Switch Dualband Access Points.


Product Features:


 a.. Powered by Trapeze NetworksT Mobility System
 b.. Provides Central Management for WLAN Infrastructure
 c.. Automatically Configures All Attached DWL-8220APs
AAA Authentication Offloading Capability
The MobileLAN DWS-1008 supports Administration, Authorization, and 
Authentication (AAA) policies to ensure maximum security. Rather than 
checking the identity of a connecting user from the switch's local database, 
user authentication policies can be sent back to an AAA server for complete 
verification. This offloading capability ensures that the WLAN will not 
overload when clients are simultaneously connecting to the network.


User-Based Authentication Services
This wireless switch delivers Identity-based Networking, which provides 
user-based services such as virtual private group membership, personal 
firewall filters, time-of-day/day-of-week access, encryption type, 
authentication, usage tracking, location tracking, and associated network 
statistics. Authorizations stay with users wherever they roam because all 
deployed DWS-1008s share stored information, ensuring secure access and 
connectivity to the right services.


Easy Deployment
The DWS-1008 includes eight 10/100 Mbps ports with integrated PoE to enable 
network connectivity to any connected DWL-8220AP. It is designed for 
distributed deployments in the wiring closet or small or medium offices. It 
can support up to six directly connected DWL-8220APs and up to six more 
DWL-8220APs connected indirectly. Maximum Performance With Load Balancing 
Capabilities The DWS-1008 performs Layer 2 forwarding and also comes with 
extensive Layer 3-4 and identity-tracking capabilities. It integrates 
seamlessly with wired infrastructures and offers redundant load-sharing 
links, 802.1q trunking, spanning tree and per-VLAN spanning tree (PVST+). It 
also supports IGMP snooping, which is vital to supporting IP multicast 
streams.


Cory Andrews
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi phones and WDS (Wireless Distribution System)



I'm about to start working with WiFi phones on my Asterisk
installations.

Can anyone tell me if they are using WiFi phones on wireless network
that is extended with WDS and how well the phone handles jumping from
access point to access point while on a call?

Do any WiFi phones support WPA encryption or are they all still under
the impression they are only being used on public hot spots?

Thanks!

Chip Schweiss


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi phones and WDS (Wireless Distribution System)

2006-03-21 Thread Chuck Bunn

Hi,

I use the Zyxel  P-2000W v2 wireless VOIP phones with Zyxel G-1000 
access points and the hand off calls fairly smoothly using a port for 
the hand off and using WEP security (the Zyxel is not capable of WPA 
security  yet). I  understand that people have problems with some 
manufactures access points not handling the hand off very well due to 
latency issues. I can not remember the article but I believe Network 
World or a similar rag did hand off tests and found the Zyxel to be one 
of the best at the time.


Thanks

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm about to start working with WiFi phones on my Asterisk 
installations.


Can anyone tell me if they are using WiFi phones on wireless network 
that is extended with WDS and how well the phone handles jumping from 
access point to access point while on a call?


Do any WiFi phones support WPA encryption or are they all still under 
the impression they are only being used on public hot spots?


Thanks!

Chip Schweiss


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi phones and WDS (Wireless Distribution System)

2006-03-21 Thread BJ Weschke
On 3/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm about to start working with WiFi phones on my Asterisk
 installations.

 Can anyone tell me if they are using WiFi phones on wireless network
 that is extended with WDS and how well the phone handles jumping from
 access point to access point while on a call?

 Do any WiFi phones support WPA encryption or are they all still under
 the impression they are only being used on public hot spots?


 We've got a WDS mesh setup on WRT54GS's here internally with the
HyperWRT firmware, and we're able to roam fairly seamlessly with the
Linksys WIP300 and the Zyxel phones. The F1000 from UTStarcom gets a
little cranky while you're on a call and go from one to the other. The
Linksys WIP300 does support WPA and 802.11g. We got all of the
aforementioned equipment from VoipSupply.com.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi phones and WDS (Wireless Distribution System)

2006-03-21 Thread jason justman
the cisco 7920 with the latest firmware supports WPA-psk using the AKM 
for auth.


it is important to turn off CDP discovery otherwise it will crash other 
cisco sccp phones connected to asterisk - advaned menu: Menu, *, #, #, 
Send (green phone icon) - network config and disable cdp tx


haven't had a chance to roam with it just yet, but it works fine.

j


Cory Andrews wrote:
There are a number of phones that support WPA, including the UTStarcom 
F1000G and F3000, and the Linksys WIP300 and WIP330, although current 
availability on these products is scarce.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WIFI Phones

2005-12-14 Thread Matt Riddell
rossi.tek wrote:
 I'm looking for iax2 wifi phones, do you know where i can buy them?

Yes.  Nowhere.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WIFI Phones

2005-12-14 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
combine an iaxy and a plain old cordless phone. It works great for me 
around the workplace.  I think there are even four-line, five-handset 
cordless systems, although you'd need four iaxys as well.


Moj

rossi.tek wrote:

I'm looking for iax2 wifi phones, do you know where i can buy them?

Thanks

Mario
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WIFI Phones

2005-12-14 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 17:33 +0100, Matt Riddell wrote:
 rossi.tek wrote:
  I'm looking for iax2 wifi phones, do you know where i can buy them?
 
 Yes.  Nowhere.
 
 :)
 
not entirely true if you expand your definition :P

I have an ipaq which is capable of acting like a soft phone (and it
does, although I use a sip client) and it has integrated wifi.  There
are some really cheap pdas out there now with integrated wifi, in some
cases cheaper than some of the wifi phones sold.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WIFI Phones

2005-12-14 Thread Klaus Peras




and that ipaq can do iax2 ??

Guess not

cheers
klaus

trixter aka Bret McDanel schrieb:

  On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 17:33 +0100, Matt Riddell wrote:
  
  
rossi.tek wrote:


  I'm looking for iax2 wifi phones, do you know where i can buy them?
  

Yes.  Nowhere.

:)


  
  not entirely true if you expand your definition :P

I have an ipaq which is capable of acting like a soft phone (and it
does, although I use a sip client) and it has integrated wifi.  There
are some really cheap pdas out there now with integrated wifi, in some
cases cheaper than some of the wifi phones sold.


  
  

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[Asterisk-Users] WIFI Phones

2005-12-13 Thread rossi.tek
I'm looking for iax2 wifi phones, do you know where i can buy them?

Thanks

Mario
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-11 Thread Patrick
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:01 -0400, Cory Andrews wrote:
 The F3000 is not anticipated to be available for distribution until late 
 December/January, FYI.

I came across this one. Haven't seen one in real life though.

http://www.gemtek.com.tw/pro_whsg103g.htm

Regards,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-11 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 13:36 +0200, Patrick wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:01 -0400, Cory Andrews wrote:
  The F3000 is not anticipated to be available for distribution until late 
  December/January, FYI.
 
 I came across this one. Haven't seen one in real life though.
 
 http://www.gemtek.com.tw/pro_whsg103g.htm
 
 Regards,
 Patrick

Just make sure you have plenty of bandwidth available, keep in mind wifi
is half duplex so it gets full a little faster than you may think.  Then
stuff like jitter buffers and all make a big difference in
performance.  

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-11 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote:

On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 13:36 +0200, Patrick wrote:


On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:01 -0400, Cory Andrews wrote:

The F3000 is not anticipated to be available for distribution until late 
December/January, FYI.


I came across this one. Haven't seen one in real life though.

http://www.gemtek.com.tw/pro_whsg103g.htm

Regards,
Patrick



Just make sure you have plenty of bandwidth available, keep in mind wifi
is half duplex so it gets full a little faster than you may think.  Then
stuff like jitter buffers and all make a big difference in
performance.  


Asterisk does not have a jitter buffer for SIP.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-10 Thread Pedro
The UTStarcom F1000 with the latest firmware (3.10st) has improved
sound volume over the default firmware shipped with the units.
Also, TFTP configuration works well so you don't have to configure the
units with the keypad. You will need to get the configuration
compiler from your vendor and be aware that the default encryption key
should be set to NULL rather than F1000 as stated in the docs when
compiling your config. At first I was not sure how I would like a
WiFi phone because I figured it would sound bad, but I have been very
impressed with the quality of the F1000. We have now added it to
our VoIP product offerings.

- Pedro
http://www.traci.netOn 10/8/05, Cory Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The F3000 is not anticipated to be available for distribution until lateDecember/January, FYI.
Cory AndrewsSenior Partner+++VOIPSupply.com454 Sonwil DriveBuffalo, NY 14225+++voice - 716.630.1555 X22email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fax - 716.630.1548Denis Galvão - iSolve wrote: Wait for the next UTStarCom version... Called F3000, Im not sure, but something like that. It will have better battery performance and will have 
802.11g support, and many other improvements. It will be available soon. Denis. On 07 de out de 2005, at 00:54, Andy Hamilton wrote: Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsetscurrently
 available? The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
 option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the default password is 88). The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
 language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
 is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3 conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a phone. The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
 fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 
802.1x authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available security option. Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very least.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-08 Thread Denis Galvão - iSolve
Wait for the next UTStarCom version... Called F3000, Im not sure, but  
something like that.


It will have better battery performance and will have 802.11g  
support, and many other improvements. It will be available soon.


Denis.



On 07 de out de 2005, at 00:54, Andy Hamilton wrote:

Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets  
currently

available?



The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
default password is 88).

The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
phone.

The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
security option.

Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very  
least.

 They are well priced and of good quality.

Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

-A
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-08 Thread Cory Andrews
The F3000 is not anticipated to be available for distribution until late 
December/January, FYI.


Cory Andrews
Senior Partner
+++
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454 Sonwil Drive
Buffalo, NY 14225
+++
voice - 716.630.1555 X22
email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fax - 716.630.1548



Denis Galvão - iSolve wrote:

Wait for the next UTStarCom version... Called F3000, Im not sure, but  
something like that.


It will have better battery performance and will have 802.11g  
support, and many other improvements. It will be available soon.


Denis.



On 07 de out de 2005, at 00:54, Andy Hamilton wrote:


Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets  currently
available?



The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
default password is 88).

The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
phone.

The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
security option.

Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very  
least.

 They are well priced and of good quality.

Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

-A
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread ADEGOKE ARUNA
Can you try zyxel. I has graphical interface to do the configuration.

goksie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Hamilton
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:55 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

 Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
 available?

The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
default password is 88).

The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
phone.

The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
security option.

Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very least.
 They are well priced and of good quality.

Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

-A
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread Matt Love
Hi 

I have a Zyxel 2000W wifi phone, setup is easy and quick to perform. However
I have found the range less that satisfactory. I have a Cisco 1200 AP and
our wireless laptop devices can acccess the network fine, however the Zyxel
is pretty rubbish. For example I can be 5 metres away with only a single
brick wall in the way and hardly have signal. It could be this particular
handset has a problem. I would be interested to see if anyone else has a
similar experience or could it be my phone?

Matt 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 07 October 2005 09:41
To: 'Andy Hamilton'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

Can you try zyxel. I has graphical interface to do the configuration.

goksie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Hamilton
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:55 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

 Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
 available?

The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
default password is 88).

The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
phone.

The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
security option.

Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very least.
 They are well priced and of good quality.

Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

-A
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread Angus Comber

wireless generally struggles with brick walls.

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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:55 AM
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Hi

I have a Zyxel 2000W wifi phone, setup is easy and quick to perform. 
However

I have found the range less that satisfactory. I have a Cisco 1200 AP and
our wireless laptop devices can acccess the network fine, however the 
Zyxel

is pretty rubbish. For example I can be 5 metres away with only a single
brick wall in the way and hardly have signal. It could be this particular
handset has a problem. I would be interested to see if anyone else has a
similar experience or could it be my phone?

Matt

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ADEGOKE 
ARUNA

Sent: 07 October 2005 09:41
To: 'Andy Hamilton'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

Can you try zyxel. I has graphical interface to do the configuration.

goksie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy 
Hamilton

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:55 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones


Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
available?


The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
default password is 88).

The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
phone.

The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
security option.

Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very least.
They are well priced and of good quality.

Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

-A
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread ADEGOKE ARUNA
When I used ZyXel 2000W with wrtg54s outdoor router, I got 300 meters reach
though no thick wall is involved.


Goksie

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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

wireless generally struggles with brick walls.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones


 Hi

 I have a Zyxel 2000W wifi phone, setup is easy and quick to perform. 
 However
 I have found the range less that satisfactory. I have a Cisco 1200 AP and
 our wireless laptop devices can acccess the network fine, however the 
 Zyxel
 is pretty rubbish. For example I can be 5 metres away with only a single
 brick wall in the way and hardly have signal. It could be this particular
 handset has a problem. I would be interested to see if anyone else has a
 similar experience or could it be my phone?

 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ADEGOKE 
 ARUNA
 Sent: 07 October 2005 09:41
 To: 'Andy Hamilton'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
 Discussion'
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

 Can you try zyxel. I has graphical interface to do the configuration.

 goksie

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy 
 Hamilton
 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:55 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

 Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
 available?

 The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
 half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
 seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
 option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
 manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
 default password is 88).

 The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
 language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
 good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
 my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
 is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
 conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
 phone.

 The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
 fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
 transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
 still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
 authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
 security option.

 Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very least.
 They are well priced and of good quality.

 Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread Matt Love
Agreed, but my laptops and PDA's work fine at 25m+.
It could be the particual phone I have, I think I'll box it back up this
weekend and get a replacement set out as it sonly a week old!
Thanks.
Matt 

-Original Message-
From: Angus Comber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 October 2005 10:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

wireless generally struggles with brick walls.

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' 
asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones


 Hi

 I have a Zyxel 2000W wifi phone, setup is easy and quick to perform. 
 However
 I have found the range less that satisfactory. I have a Cisco 1200 AP and
 our wireless laptop devices can acccess the network fine, however the 
 Zyxel
 is pretty rubbish. For example I can be 5 metres away with only a single
 brick wall in the way and hardly have signal. It could be this particular
 handset has a problem. I would be interested to see if anyone else has a
 similar experience or could it be my phone?

 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ADEGOKE 
 ARUNA
 Sent: 07 October 2005 09:41
 To: 'Andy Hamilton'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
 Discussion'
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

 Can you try zyxel. I has graphical interface to do the configuration.

 goksie

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy 
 Hamilton
 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:55 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

 Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
 available?

 The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
 half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
 seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
 option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
 manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
 default password is 88).

 The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
 language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
 good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
 my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
 is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
 conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
 phone.

 The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
 fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
 transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
 still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
 authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
 security option.

 Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very least.
 They are well priced and of good quality.

 Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread Vahan Yerkanian

Andy Hamilton wrote:

Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
available?



The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
default password is 88).

[snip]


The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
security option.


Bought one from VoipSupply too,

And yes, it doesn't support 802.1x radius auth (no place to select 
method, client certificate, etc). I've contacted voipsupply support 
about this and asked them to remove the 802.1x support listed on the 
product pages but got a cryptic reply that the phone does support 802.1x 
MD5.. (md5 is just a method of one of not supported 802.1x auths).


Also, the max volume for the headpiece was actually quite low - in noisy 
environments as on streets you'll have hard time listening to the 
conversation.


Overall, this phone is OK for home and small office use, nothing more.

Just my $0.02 in,
Vahan

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread Asterisk User List
We bought a couple of the UTStarCom phones.  They work fine in the
office environment where noise is low, but on our production floor it is
impossible for me to hear what is being said and the person on the other
end of the call also says that they cannot hear a thing from the F1000
when the wireless phone is in a noisy environment.  Still looking for a
good WiFi phone for production/factory use.


--Phil


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Yerkanian
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:53 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

Andy Hamilton wrote:
Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently

available?
 
 
 The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about 
 half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it 
 seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP

 option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the 
 manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the 
 default password is 88).
[snip]
 
 The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my

 fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem 
 transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should 
 still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x 
 authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available 
 security option.

Bought one from VoipSupply too,

And yes, it doesn't support 802.1x radius auth (no place to select
method, client certificate, etc). I've contacted voipsupply support
about this and asked them to remove the 802.1x support listed on the
product pages but got a cryptic reply that the phone does support 802.1x
MD5.. (md5 is just a method of one of not supported 802.1x auths).

Also, the max volume for the headpiece was actually quite low - in noisy
environments as on streets you'll have hard time listening to the
conversation.

Overall, this phone is OK for home and small office use, nothing more.

Just my $0.02 in,
Vahan

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Graves


Jim,



I have one of the Hitachi WIP-5000 wifi phones. Been using it about 6 months. I've even travelled with it and tried to make use of hotspots here and there. My primary application for the phone was to replace a Panasonic analog corldess phone and Sipura SPA-2000 combination for my home office. 



I have both 802.11b (house) and 801.11g (office)  on the property. The WIP-5000 is a .11b device. While it supports long encryption keys it does not support WPA...which is specific to .11g. I have been able to make it mount both WLANs with encryption enabled. There is a bit of an issue making it jump from AP to AP seamlessly as both APs must share channels & SSIDs, which is troublesome.



As a phone its behaviour is very good. It's very small. The battery life has been good. It has a 2.5mm jack for a standard headset, which is essential for me. It can perform basic PBX functions better than the ATA/Panasonic pair. I wish that the volume would go a bit louder...that's my one major complaint about the phone.



However, what I've learned about wifi along the way is more enlightening. My wlan is simply not sufficient to ensure a good voice experience. I've been using several access point including; Linksys WAP54G, Linksys WAP11b & a cheap Belkin 802.11b. None of these provide absolutely continuous calling. Periodically the wlan goes away for a couple of seconds then restores itself. The result is a momentary pause in an ongoing call...very much like a cell phone. The call never gets dropped, but I often need to ask the other party to repeat their last statement.



Also, the range you can expect is nowhere near what you will achieve with a normal 2.4 or 5.8 GHz cordless phone. I get around 40-60 feet maximum...and I don't like in a brick house.



As an alternative I've also purchased an Aastra 480 CTi which comes with a cordless handset. Too early to know much about this in detail but so far I like it a lot.



Michael Graves



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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:04:50 -1000



Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently available? 

 

Thanks. 

 

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[Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

2005-10-07 Thread Will Glass-Husain



Hi,

I'm provisioning an office with limited 
cabling. I'm looking for a desk based wifi phone. Most of the ones 
I've seen are handsets. Any ideas?

Thanks, WILL

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

2005-10-07 Thread Cory Andrews
Clipcomm has a WIFI extensible SIP desk phone that we have successfully 
integrated with Asterisk.


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Will Glass-Husain wrote:

Hi,
 
I'm provisioning an office with limited cabling.  I'm looking for a 
desk based wifi phone.  Most of the ones I've seen are handsets.  Any 
ideas?
 
Thanks, WILL
 



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

2005-10-07 Thread John Reynolds
On 10/7/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm provisioning an office with limited cabling.  I'm looking for a desk
 based wifi phone.  Most of the ones I've seen are handsets.  Any ideas?

 Thanks, WILL


Will,

I don't know of a specific wifi deskphone... but I have run my Cisco
7960G using a wireless bridge without noticable problem. Have you
considered this approach?

Have others tried this? what were your expirences?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

2005-10-07 Thread Garth Summey

I've also only heard of the Clipcomm


Along the same lines...

Why doesn't anyone make a wireless ATA?  Am I the only one with a need 
for such a thing?  By the time I plug in a wireless bridge, an ata and a 
cordless phone, I need a five outlet powerstrip and shoebox to hide all 
the components.


G

John Reynolds wrote:

On 10/7/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I'm provisioning an office with limited cabling.  I'm looking for a desk
based wifi phone.  Most of the ones I've seen are handsets.  Any ideas?

Thanks, WILL




Will,

I don't know of a specific wifi deskphone... but I have run my Cisco
7960G using a wireless bridge without noticable problem. Have you
considered this approach?

Have others tried this? what were your expirences?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

2005-10-07 Thread BJ Weschke
I've got a Polycom 501 that I run off a Wifi Game Adapter in my home. It works fine. 
On 10/7/05, John Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/7/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,
 I'm provisioning an office with limited cabling.I'm looking for a desk based wifi phone.Most of the ones I've seen are handsets.Any ideas? Thanks, WILLWill,
I don't know of a specific wifi deskphone... but I have run my Cisco7960G using a wireless bridge without noticable problem. Have youconsidered this approach?Have others tried this? what were your expirences?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

2005-10-07 Thread Garrett Smith
Linksys makes the WRT54GP2-NA that has ATA functionality.

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

I've also only heard of the Clipcomm


Along the same lines...

Why doesn't anyone make a wireless ATA?  Am I the only one with a need 
for such a thing?  By the time I plug in a wireless bridge, an ata and a 
cordless phone, I need a five outlet powerstrip and shoebox to hide all 
the components.

G

John Reynolds wrote:
 On 10/7/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hi,

I'm provisioning an office with limited cabling.  I'm looking for a desk
based wifi phone.  Most of the ones I've seen are handsets.  Any ideas?

Thanks, WILL

 
 
 Will,
 
 I don't know of a specific wifi deskphone... but I have run my Cisco
 7960G using a wireless bridge without noticable problem. Have you
 considered this approach?
 
 Have others tried this? what were your expirences?
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - desk

2005-10-07 Thread James H Thompson



At the Boston VON last month Linksys was showing an 
add-on for their SPA-941 to make it wireless.
See:
 http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Linksys


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:14 
  AM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] wifi phones - 
  desk
  
  Hi,
  
  I'm provisioning an office with limited 
  cabling. I'm looking for a desk based wifi phone. Most of the ones 
  I've seen are handsets. Any ideas?
  
  Thanks, WILL
  
  
  

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-07 Thread Alan Harrison
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 00:15, Michael Graves wrote:

Try Strix as the access points,  It has cell handover and roaming features.  
Very important for telephony wireless.


 Jim,

 I have one of the Hitachi WIP-5000 wifi phones. Been using it about 6
 months. I've even travelled with it and tried to make use of hotspots
 here and there. My primary application for the phone was to replace a
 Panasonic analog corldess phone and Sipura SPA-2000 combination for my
 home office.

 I have both 802.11b (house) and 801.11g (office)  on the property. The
 WIP-5000 is a .11b device. While it supports long encryption keys it
 does not support WPA...which is specific to .11g. I have been able to
 make it mount both WLANs with encryption enabled. There is a bit of an
 issue making it jump from AP to AP seamlessly as both APs must share
 channels  SSIDs, which is troublesome.

 As a phone its behaviour is very good. It's very small. The battery
 life has been good. It has a 2.5mm jack for a standard headset, which
 is essential for me. It can perform basic PBX functions better than the
 ATA/Panasonic pair. I wish that the volume would go a bit
 louder...that's my one major complaint about the phone.

 However, what I've learned about wifi along the way is more
 enlightening. My wlan is simply not sufficient to ensure a good voice
 experience. I've been using several access point including; Linksys
 WAP54G, Linksys WAP11b  a cheap Belkin 802.11b. None of these provide
 absolutely continuous calling. Periodically the wlan goes away for a
 couple of seconds then restores itself. The result is a momentary pause
 in an ongoing call...very much like a cell phone. The call never gets
 dropped, but I often need to ask the other party to repeat their last
 statement.

 Also, the range you can expect is nowhere near what you will achieve
 with a normal 2.4 or 5.8 GHz cordless phone. I get around 40-60 feet
 maximum...and I don't like in a brick house.

 As an alternative I've also purchased an Aastra 480 CTi which comes
 with a cordless handset. Too early to know much about this in detail
 but so far I like it a lot.

 Michael Graves

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 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:04:50 -1000

 Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
 available?

 Thanks.

 Jim




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[Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-06 Thread James H Thompson



Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi 
handsets currently available?

Thanks.

Jim


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-06 Thread CM Rahman
I am also interested to find out about wifi handset tha voipsupply.com 
sells.  is it any good?


Thanks

James H Thompson wrote:

Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently 
available?
 
Thanks.
 
Jim
 
 




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WiFi Phones

2005-10-06 Thread Andy Hamilton
 Anyone have good words to say about any of the WiFi handsets currently
 available?

The UTStarCom F1000 (an 802.11b device) works pretty well. It's about
half the $$$ of a Cisco 7920 (which are also pretty nice), but it
seems like most of the config is done from the keypad. There is a TFTP
option, but it seems that isn't quite perfect. You could check the
manual (I programmed the unit without that, except to find that the
default password is 88).

The unit, I'm guessing, was designed somewhere in Asia, and the
language translation shows it a little bit. Sound quality seems pretty
good for the few calls I've passed through it. I only have one AP in
my house, so I can't comment on roaming. The headset for my cell phone
is stereo, and I think the phone would be most happy with a standard 3
conductor plug, but I imagine a headset on a phone is a headset on a
phone.

The keypad is a touch small, and sometimes I hit the wrong key (and my
fingers aren't terribly fat). I also seemed to have a problem
transferring calls (using the built in transfer function -- # should
still work). Despite many vendors' pages saying that it does 802.1x
authentication, it sure looks like WEP is the only available
security option.

Overall: I would recommend purchasing one, for testing at the very least.
 They are well priced and of good quality.

Battery life seems to be pretty good, too.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-18 Thread Florian Overkamp
Hi, 

 -Original Message-
 What on earth did you do to your reply, I hit reply or 
 reply-to-list and all I get for quoted text is your see 
 below -- how very odd.

He has sig-dashes below that line, so your client thinks the only thing
below is a signature, which does not need to be quoted :-)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-18 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
  What on earth did you do to your reply, I hit reply or
  reply-to-list and all I get for quoted text is your see
  below -- how very odd.

 He has sig-dashes below that line, so your client thinks the only thing
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A, you are correct, sir...  Neat trick.  :-)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-18 Thread Yifang Dai
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:30:09PM -0600, Jonathan Moore wrote:
 See below
 
 Actually you can control the volume while in call with the four way toggle
 button in the center of the phone. Right for louder, left for softer. The

I saw that botton, but adjusting them make so little effect on the
volume, so I thought they didn't work... I was looking for the regular
cell phone style physical volume buttons...

 problem I am seeing is if I get a low audio connection, even maxing the volume
 makes the call just barely audible. 

Yes, we were looking to use them in the noisy warehouses, but it doesn't
looks like it's going to work..

 
 Which codec are you using for the phone?
 

I'm just using ulaw for now.

 Maybe we are talking about a different phone. At this point I really wondering
 if either 1) the phone doesn't like ulaw/alaw, 2) I just have a bad unit. I

ulaw appears to be working fine. Besides the volume problem, it's a
great phone...

Yifang
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan Moore
Below

Quoting Yifang Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:30:09PM -0600, Jonathan Moore wrote:
  See below
  
  Actually you can control the volume while in call with the four way toggle
  button in the center of the phone. Right for louder, left for softer. The
 
 I saw that botton, but adjusting them make so little effect on the
 volume, so I thought they didn't work... I was looking for the regular
 cell phone style physical volume buttons...

In a good call the volume settings seem to do quite a bit. But on a low volume
it just doesn't seem to do much. I finally have gotten the pulver engineer to
respond, so I will mention that i am not the only one with the problem. The
phone seems physically capable of decent volume. Such as the notification beeps
before a call. 

Also have you tried an cell phone earbud, for your situation?


 
  problem I am seeing is if I get a low audio connection, even maxing the
 volume
  makes the call just barely audible. 
 
 Yes, we were looking to use them in the noisy warehouses, but it doesn't
 looks like it's going to work..
 
  
  Which codec are you using for the phone?
  
 
 I'm just using ulaw for now.
 
  Maybe we are talking about a different phone. At this point I really
 wondering
  if either 1) the phone doesn't like ulaw/alaw, 2) I just have a bad unit.
 I
 

One of the suggestions from the pulver engineer is to use g729. I am going to
try to get an order in today via Digium to see if this helps the situation.


 ulaw appears to be working fine. Besides the volume problem, it's a
 great phone...
 
 Yifang
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-17 Thread Yifang Dai
 
 When you get it going please compare notes on functionality. So far I am finding

Mine appears to be working fine..

 the Wisip likes my brand new Cisco AP1100 a lot more than either an airport or
 linksys ap. This could however be wep as my new Ap doesn't have that setup yet.

Mine works ok with the cheap Dlink 1000ap..

 I also noticed that the volume level varies considerably depending on how you
 place the phone next to your ear. It really needs to be lined up just right.

Yeah, that's one major flaw in my eyes... We're so surprised to find out
there's no volumn control buttons on the phone.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan Moore
See below
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Quoting Yifang Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  
  When you get it going please compare notes on functionality. So far I am
 finding
 
 Mine appears to be working fine..
 
  the Wisip likes my brand new Cisco AP1100 a lot more than either an airport
 or
  linksys ap. This could however be wep as my new Ap doesn't have that setup
 yet.
 
 Mine works ok with the cheap Dlink 1000ap..
 
  I also noticed that the volume level varies considerably depending on how
 you
  place the phone next to your ear. It really needs to be lined up just
 right.
 
 Yeah, that's one major flaw in my eyes... We're so surprised to find out
 there's no volumn control buttons on the phone.
 
 

Actually you can control the volume while in call with the four way toggle
button in the center of the phone. Right for louder, left for softer. The
problem I am seeing is if I get a low audio connection, even maxing the volume
makes the call just barely audible. 

Which codec are you using for the phone?

Maybe we are talking about a different phone. At this point I really wondering
if either 1) the phone doesn't like ulaw/alaw, 2) I just have a bad unit. I
asked Pulver to either give me a little more assistence in changing
settings/optimal settings or to send me a replacement to rule out bad hardware.
The phone is truly capable of being a good device. I have been amazed at the
sound quality of some of the calls. It just needs to do it reliably. I am
confident it will get worked out, but gettting impatient to get there :-).



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-17 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
What on earth did you do to your reply, I hit reply or reply-to-list and all 
I get for quoted text is your see below -- how very odd.

Anyway the WiSIP only has ulaw and g729 codecs.  As I don't have any g729 
codecs in my * setup I use ulaw.

I would love to know if anyone using the wisip has figured out how to get it 
to transfer.  I can't park a call or do anything serious with this little 
device.

Regards,
Andrew
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-16 Thread HQ
Miguel,
IPC5000 doesn't support G729 (8 kbps)  (it only support G711 64kbps)
Be carefull with what you buy.
Hector.


- Original Message - 
From: Miguel Cavazos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Asterisk Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:38 AM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones


 Hello list, I was going to buy this weekend a Wisip from
 http://www.pulverinnovations.com/, but jeff got out of stock and he wont
 have Wisip for the next 3 to 4 weeks. So I start searching for other
 wifi phones because I was really upset about it and I found IPC5000 from
 http://www.fahdtel.com/sip_phones.htm, I liked so much the pic that I
 email the guy and he send me the PDF with all the details you can find
 it here http://mike.calle69.net/IPC5000-brochure.PDF, and its almost the
 same price as Wisip.
 
 But when I ask if this phone will work with asterisk I got this answer
 We didn't tested on Asteriskt but on IX66, hotsip, Cisoc etc...
 However, The IPC5000 should work on other SIP platform without any
 problem as it is standard based. I just dont want to spend 290 USD for
 a phone that wont work and that no one seems to use here.
 
 So I would like to know if anyone of you guys had try out this model or
 seen it working, sorry about the unnesesary traffic to the list, my
 question is simple would this work against asterisk if anyone knows
 any other Wifi phones besides Wisip and Ciscos expensive toy please tell
 me.
 
 Miguel Cavazos
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-16 Thread Miguel Cavazos
yes it does and g723.1 also, im about to buy it, i will be sending
feedback to the list as soon as i get my unit. I really like alot how it
looks, hopefully i will also love how it works:)

Miguel
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 12:57, HQ wrote:
 Miguel,
 IPC5000 doesn't support G729 (8 kbps)  (it only support G711 64kbps)
 Be carefull with what you buy.
 Hector.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Miguel Cavazos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Asterisk Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:38 AM
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones
 
 
  Hello list, I was going to buy this weekend a Wisip from
  http://www.pulverinnovations.com/, but jeff got out of stock and he wont
  have Wisip for the next 3 to 4 weeks. So I start searching for other
  wifi phones because I was really upset about it and I found IPC5000 from
  http://www.fahdtel.com/sip_phones.htm, I liked so much the pic that I
  email the guy and he send me the PDF with all the details you can find
  it here http://mike.calle69.net/IPC5000-brochure.PDF, and its almost the
  same price as Wisip.
  
  But when I ask if this phone will work with asterisk I got this answer
  We didn't tested on Asteriskt but on IX66, hotsip, Cisoc etc...
  However, The IPC5000 should work on other SIP platform without any
  problem as it is standard based. I just dont want to spend 290 USD for
  a phone that wont work and that no one seems to use here.
  
  So I would like to know if anyone of you guys had try out this model or
  seen it working, sorry about the unnesesary traffic to the list, my
  question is simple would this work against asterisk if anyone knows
  any other Wifi phones besides Wisip and Ciscos expensive toy please tell
  me.
  
  Miguel Cavazos
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-16 Thread Jonathan Moore
I am also going to share this with the list since it may be helpful for other
Wisip/* users out there.

There are two tricks that I discovered in getting the Wisip to work with *. The
first thing is to go into the Wisip's web config and select the SW/Update
section. There will be an entry for a tftp server. This is tricky because it
looks like an entry to get software updates but it is actually a tftp config
file loader. As with many other entries in the wisip it will not allow you to
put a blank entry. Just put in an fake entry and it works fine. If you don't do
this you will find that no matter how many times you reenter your settings you
will lose all the sips settings on each bootup :-). Note that this will be an
issue even if you explicitly ordered the phone without a FWD config. Even though
they offer the option on the order form they call come configured this way. The
second trick is to change the outgoing proxy port from the fwd/wisip default to
5060. Otherwise it is a pretty standard sip setup. Here is the entry from my
sip.conf file. If you don't have a G.729 licence then you need to switch the
settings to uLaw or aLaw in the codec. Also make sure you match up the dtmf
settings.

[wisip]
type=friend
secret=blah
host=dynamic
context=local
dtmfmode=rfc2833
callerid=Joe Schmoe 
nat=yes
qualify=1000

When you get it going please compare notes on functionality. So far I am finding
the Wisip likes my brand new Cisco AP1100 a lot more than either an airport or
linksys ap. This could however be wep as my new Ap doesn't have that setup yet.
I also noticed that the volume level varies considerably depending on how you
place the phone next to your ear. It really needs to be lined up just right.
Once I got connected with the cisco and everything running, and the phone placed
correctly against my ear I had one really clear 20 minute call with the unit
while I roamed around the building. The range was really pretty good.


-- 
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Director of Technology
Winfield Public Schools
Office 620.221.5100
Fax 620.221.0508


Quoting Gene Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Could you send me a copy of your sip.conf for the wisip from Pulver. And
 the config for the phone? I bought one and it worked with FWD but I
 haven't gotten it to work with *. 
  
  
  
 Thanks 
 Gene Brown
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
  
 I don't know if anyone else has worked with Spectralink, but I tried to
 get some demo units to test with a while back and I was really
 disapointed. At first they claimed they were SIP complient. Then they
 sent me a contract for the demo. They wouldn't send a demo unless I
 agreed to have them do an onsite install to the tune of nearly $5000. I
 would only have been obligated for the install fees if I decided to buy,
 but not being happy about the install fees and wanting to know why I
 learned more about how the technology works. My sales rep shared that
 the phones aren't actually SIP compliant and work through the SVP server
 to provide SIP compliance to the PBX connection. He also shared that
 they want provide warranty on their products unless they do the install.
 Really turned me off, smelled very proprietary, although SVP QOS is
 pretty cool.
  
 I just received a Wisip last week and it looks pretty promising,
 although I think my unit may be damaged. Pulver support was also very up
 front with me that they technically only support the Wisip with FWD.
 They have been good to work with me so far, even rushed me a unit when I
 explained I was researching for a large purchase. It definetly connects
 to asterisk, but I think my unit has a bad antena or transmiter. The
 audio drops in and out and the signal strength indicator shows only one
 bar even when only about 25' from the access point.
  
 Anyone else actually gotten their hands one of these to try with
 Asterik? I would like to buy a couple hundred of them, but they need
 work reliably. I would love to compare notes with someone to see if my
 experiences are a typical.
  
  
 -- 
 Jonathan Moore
 Director of Technology
 Winfield Public Schools
 Office 620.221.5100
 Fax 620.221.0508
  
  
 Quoting Craig Waddington [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  Those phones look good, but, only have 10 milliwatt output.
  
  Have you looked at these:
  
  http://www.spectralink.com/products/nl-wts.html
  
  100mw output.
  
   
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel 
  Cavazos
  Sent: 15 February 2004 12:39
  To: Asterisk Users
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones
  
  Hello list, I was going to buy this weekend a Wisip from 
  http://www.pulverinnovations.com/, but jeff got out of stock and he 
  wont have Wisip for the next 3 to 4 weeks. So I start searching for 
  other wifi phones because I was really upset about it and I found 
  IPC5000 from http://www.fahdtel.com/sip_phones.htm, I liked so much 
  the pic that I email the guy and he send me the PDF with all the 
  details you can find it here

[Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-15 Thread Miguel Cavazos
Hello list, I was going to buy this weekend a Wisip from
http://www.pulverinnovations.com/, but jeff got out of stock and he wont
have Wisip for the next 3 to 4 weeks. So I start searching for other
wifi phones because I was really upset about it and I found IPC5000 from
http://www.fahdtel.com/sip_phones.htm, I liked so much the pic that I
email the guy and he send me the PDF with all the details you can find
it here http://mike.calle69.net/IPC5000-brochure.PDF, and its almost the
same price as Wisip.

But when I ask if this phone will work with asterisk I got this answer
We didn't tested on Asteriskt but on IX66, hotsip, Cisoc etc...
However, The IPC5000 should work on other SIP platform without any
problem as it is standard based. I just dont want to spend 290 USD for
a phone that wont work and that no one seems to use here.

So I would like to know if anyone of you guys had try out this model or
seen it working, sorry about the unnesesary traffic to the list, my
question is simple would this work against asterisk if anyone knows
any other Wifi phones besides Wisip and Ciscos expensive toy please tell
me.

Miguel Cavazos
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-15 Thread Craig Waddington
Those phones look good, but, only have 10 milliwatt output.

Have you looked at these:

http://www.spectralink.com/products/nl-wts.html

100mw output.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel
Cavazos
Sent: 15 February 2004 12:39
To: Asterisk Users
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

Hello list, I was going to buy this weekend a Wisip from
http://www.pulverinnovations.com/, but jeff got out of stock and he wont
have Wisip for the next 3 to 4 weeks. So I start searching for other
wifi phones because I was really upset about it and I found IPC5000 from
http://www.fahdtel.com/sip_phones.htm, I liked so much the pic that I
email the guy and he send me the PDF with all the details you can find
it here http://mike.calle69.net/IPC5000-brochure.PDF, and its almost the
same price as Wisip.

But when I ask if this phone will work with asterisk I got this answer
We didn't tested on Asteriskt but on IX66, hotsip, Cisoc etc...
However, The IPC5000 should work on other SIP platform without any
problem as it is standard based. I just dont want to spend 290 USD for
a phone that wont work and that no one seems to use here.

So I would like to know if anyone of you guys had try out this model or
seen it working, sorry about the unnesesary traffic to the list, my
question is simple would this work against asterisk if anyone knows
any other Wifi phones besides Wisip and Ciscos expensive toy please tell
me.

Miguel Cavazos
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones

2004-02-15 Thread Jonathan Moore
I don't know if anyone else has worked with Spectralink, but I tried to get some
demo units to test with a while back and I was really disapointed. At first they
claimed they were SIP complient. Then they sent me a contract for the demo.
They wouldn't send a demo unless I agreed to have them do an onsite install to
the tune of nearly $5000. I would only have been obligated for the install fees
if I decided to buy, but not being happy about the install fees and wanting to
know why I learned more about how the technology works. My sales rep shared that
 the phones aren't actually SIP compliant and work through the SVP server to
provide SIP compliance to the PBX connection. He also shared that they want
provide warranty on their products unless they do the install. Really turned me
off, smelled very proprietary, although SVP QOS is pretty cool.

I just received a Wisip last week and it looks pretty promising, although I
think my unit may be damaged. Pulver support was also very up front with me that
they technically only support the Wisip with FWD. They have been good to work
with me so far, even rushed me a unit when I explained I was researching for a
large purchase. It definetly connects to asterisk, but I think my unit has a bad
antena or transmiter. The audio drops in and out and the signal strength
indicator shows only one bar even when only about 25' from the access point.

Anyone else actually gotten their hands one of these to try with Asterik? I
would like to buy a couple hundred of them, but they need work reliably. I would
love to compare notes with someone to see if my experiences are a typical.


-- 
Jonathan Moore
Director of Technology
Winfield Public Schools
Office 620.221.5100
Fax 620.221.0508


Quoting Craig Waddington [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Those phones look good, but, only have 10 milliwatt output.
 
 Have you looked at these:
 
 http://www.spectralink.com/products/nl-wts.html
 
 100mw output.
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel
 Cavazos
 Sent: 15 February 2004 12:39
 To: Asterisk Users
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Wifi Phones
 
 Hello list, I was going to buy this weekend a Wisip from
 http://www.pulverinnovations.com/, but jeff got out of stock and he wont
 have Wisip for the next 3 to 4 weeks. So I start searching for other
 wifi phones because I was really upset about it and I found IPC5000 from
 http://www.fahdtel.com/sip_phones.htm, I liked so much the pic that I
 email the guy and he send me the PDF with all the details you can find
 it here http://mike.calle69.net/IPC5000-brochure.PDF, and its almost the
 same price as Wisip.
 
 But when I ask if this phone will work with asterisk I got this answer
 We didn't tested on Asteriskt but on IX66, hotsip, Cisoc etc...
 However, The IPC5000 should work on other SIP platform without any
 problem as it is standard based. I just dont want to spend 290 USD for
 a phone that wont work and that no one seems to use here.
 
 So I would like to know if anyone of you guys had try out this model or
 seen it working, sorry about the unnesesary traffic to the list, my
 question is simple would this work against asterisk if anyone knows
 any other Wifi phones besides Wisip and Ciscos expensive toy please tell
 me.
 
 Miguel Cavazos
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