Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA): any replacement?
On Thursday 01 December 2011, Hans Witvliet wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 14:02 +, A J Stiles wrote: On Thursday 01 December 2011, gincantalupo wrote: Hi all, any idea about how to replace Skype For Asterisk? Thank You. Giorgio 1. Migrate your Skype users over to a better product which supports proper open standards. perhaps you missed it, but the installed base of skype is unfortunately slightly (,,,) larger than the amount of peope that are using a decent product. Alas Then it's simply a bigger job than the original suggestion made it seem. When -- not if -- Skype give up supporting their anti-telecommunications product altogether, every single one of those users is going to be left in the lurch. And that might be the critical mass that brings on the revolution. We can only hope :) 2. Write to your elected representatives asking that they order Skype to release documentation on their protocols to allow third party interoperability (as is already required under EU law). 3. make it a offence to use any closed source products like skype. ;-) Huge fines, jail centences or worse. [How about an appendice to the Thora, Quran or Bible, even better, forbid it by the sharia] You may jest, but now you are seeing *EXACTLY* why closed, proprietary standards are a bad idea -- something I have been saying almost ever since Skype was first launched. Note, not necessarily closed *source*, but closed *standards*. The two are easily confused, but not quite the same. An Open Source program can only ever implement open standards, since the Source Code implicitly documents the standards. But Closed Source programs can, and often do, implement open standards. And wherever they do, then there are usually alternative, Open Source programs that do the same job. Every aspect of a program's interaction with the outside world -- communications protocols, save file formats and similar -- must be documented to the point where any competent programmer could write a program which interacts seamlessly with the application that originally generated them. That documentation may well be the Source Code for the program itself, of course; or it could just be something like the RFCs -- in which case, the will is surely out there for someone within the Open Source community to do the rest. Anything less is just blatant anti-competitive behaviour. -- AJS Answers come *after* questions. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA): any replacement?
Hi all, any idea about how to replace Skype For Asterisk? Thank You. Giorgio -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA): any replacement?
On 12/01/2011 08:30 AM, gincantalupo wrote: any idea about how to replace Skype For Asterisk? Replace with what? -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 260 Peachtree Street NW Suite 2200 Atlanta, GA 30303 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA): any replacement?
On Thursday 01 December 2011, gincantalupo wrote: Hi all, any idea about how to replace Skype For Asterisk? Thank You. Giorgio 1. Migrate your Skype users over to a better product which supports proper open standards. 2. Write to your elected representatives asking that they order Skype to release documentation on their protocols to allow third party interoperability (as is already required under EU law). -- AJS Answers come *after* questions. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA): any replacement?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:30 AM, gincantalupo gincantal...@fgasoftware.com wrote: Hi all, any idea about how to replace Skype For Asterisk? Thank You. Giorgio We are going through this right now and have chosen to Pay The Man via per channel subscription to Skype Connect. Watch the fun video at: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/business/skype-connect/ :-) Skype-For-Asterisk is a vastly superior product/service but someone at Skype woke up one day and said, Hey we can't let that product succeed and lose control of some valuable fees. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA): any replacement?
On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 14:02 +, A J Stiles wrote: On Thursday 01 December 2011, gincantalupo wrote: Hi all, any idea about how to replace Skype For Asterisk? Thank You. Giorgio 1. Migrate your Skype users over to a better product which supports proper open standards. perhaps you missed it, but the installed base of skype is unfortunately slightly (,,,) larger than the amount of peope that are using a decent product. Alas 2. Write to your elected representatives asking that they order Skype to release documentation on their protocols to allow third party interoperability (as is already required under EU law). 3. make it a offence to use any closed source products like skype. ;-) Huge fines, jail centences or worse. [How about an appendice to the Thora, Quran or Bible, even better, forbid it by the sharia] -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Skype For Asterisk (SFA): any replacement?
Hi Alex, replace with anything which could make Asterisk connect to Skype network, make and receive calls, etc...the usual stuff. Giorgio On 12/01/2011 02:40 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: On 12/01/2011 08:30 AM, gincantalupo wrote: any idea about how to replace Skype For Asterisk? Replace with what? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
