Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-13 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 12 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

 You can put a TE405 in a 1 server (horizontally of course).

I've just built a bit of an experimental system with 2 PCI cards in a 1U 
box. Quite a neat little system. The cards are a TDM400 and a TE120P. Will 
they work? Well, they seem to, so-far... Be intersting to see how it 
behaves under load and I'll get a chance to find out in the next few days.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Gordon Henderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 12 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

   You can put a TE405 in a 1 server (horizontally of course).

  I've just built a bit of an experimental system with 2 PCI cards in a 1U
  box. Quite a neat little system. The cards are a TDM400 and a TE120P. Will
  they work? Well, they seem to, so-far... Be intersting to see how it
  behaves under load and I'll get a chance to find out in the next few days.

  Gordon


Gordon,

It may work.

Just a benchmark from my experience, a sing core HP DL 360 @ ~3ghz and
two gigs of RAM gave me ~75 CPU usage in top.  This box was used
simply as a PSTN to SIP (ULAW) gateway with just the required features
and programs.  I was using a Sangoma four port T1 card with 95
simultaneous calls (NFAS).

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-13 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 13 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Gordon Henderson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 12 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

  You can put a TE405 in a 1 server (horizontally of course).

  I've just built a bit of an experimental system with 2 PCI cards in a 1U
  box. Quite a neat little system. The cards are a TDM400 and a TE120P. Will
  they work? Well, they seem to, so-far... Be intersting to see how it
  behaves under load and I'll get a chance to find out in the next few days.

  Gordon


 Gordon,

 It may work.

It's just an experiment, but who knows :)

 Just a benchmark from my experience, a sing core HP DL 360 @ ~3ghz and
 two gigs of RAM gave me ~75 CPU usage in top.  This box was used
 simply as a PSTN to SIP (ULAW) gateway with just the required features
 and programs.  I was using a Sangoma four port T1 card with 95
 simultaneous calls (NFAS).

This is for a small office of 30 people - only 10 channels of the PRI are 
lit. The TDM card is for outgoing calls to a 2-port Premicell unit 
(analogue GSM adapter with LCR to mobile phones) and for 2 fax machines - 
which is the only thing I'm a shade concerend about - the analogue FAX 
through the TDM board and back out via the PRI board.. (incoming faxes are 
handled by spandsp/RxFAX and sent via email)

And this in only a mere 1.3GHz VIA board too. 384MB of free RAM (512 in 
total, but the OS lives in a 128MB ramdisk) No transcoding and everything 
is custom compiled/built. (Asterisk 1.2)

I actually wanted them to go for a Xorcom channel bank, as they have a 
door opener/bell-push to manage somehow too, but they weren't keen on it, 
and the Xorcom is a bit over kill - if only they did a 2+2 or even 4+4 
(FXO/FXS) unit rather than an 8+8 ... (or even a stand-alone IO port!)

I'll let you know how it fares :)

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Totaro
Gordon Henderson wrote:
 On Tue, 13 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

   
 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Gordon Henderson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Mon, 12 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

   
 You can put a TE405 in a 1 server (horizontally of course).
 
  I've just built a bit of an experimental system with 2 PCI cards in a 1U
  box. Quite a neat little system. The cards are a TDM400 and a TE120P. Will
  they work? Well, they seem to, so-far... Be intersting to see how it
  behaves under load and I'll get a chance to find out in the next few days.

  Gordon

   
 Gordon,

 It may work.
 

 It's just an experiment, but who knows :)

   
 Just a benchmark from my experience, a sing core HP DL 360 @ ~3ghz and
 two gigs of RAM gave me ~75 CPU usage in top.  This box was used
 simply as a PSTN to SIP (ULAW) gateway with just the required features
 and programs.  I was using a Sangoma four port T1 card with 95
 simultaneous calls (NFAS).
 

 This is for a small office of 30 people - only 10 channels of the PRI are 
 lit. The TDM card is for outgoing calls to a 2-port Premicell unit 
 (analogue GSM adapter with LCR to mobile phones) and for 2 fax machines - 
 which is the only thing I'm a shade concerend about - the analogue FAX 
 through the TDM board and back out via the PRI board.. (incoming faxes are 
 handled by spandsp/RxFAX and sent via email)

 And this in only a mere 1.3GHz VIA board too. 384MB of free RAM (512 in 
 total, but the OS lives in a 128MB ramdisk) No transcoding and everything 
 is custom compiled/built. (Asterisk 1.2)

 I actually wanted them to go for a Xorcom channel bank, as they have a 
 door opener/bell-push to manage somehow too, but they weren't keen on it, 
 and the Xorcom is a bit over kill - if only they did a 2+2 or even 4+4 
 (FXO/FXS) unit rather than an 8+8 ... (or even a stand-alone IO port!)

 I'll let you know how it fares :)

 Gordon
   

Gordon,

Did you hijack someone else's thread?  You should really start your own.

Anyways, I have had great luck with TDM card to TDM card faxes on the 
same box. 

I think you want echocancelwhenbridged=no at least that made TDM 
faxing almost perfect for my installations.

The only thing I would be concerned with are the sometimes painful IRQ 
issues.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-13 Thread Sherwood McGowan
Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
 A quality 3U chassis will mount the cards parallel to the mainboard
 with the use of a riser card, just as a 1U chassis does.

 If you are intent on sourcing the components yourself may I suggest a
 Tyan or Supermicro barebones server? I think that is the best
 solution for integration in these sort of specialized systems. I know
 they've saved me many headaches.

 On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Sherwood McGowan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Gentlemen,

  First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk mailing lists.
  Those of you who have been around for a while will remember me as
  Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the
  future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I cannot find a
  definitive answer for online.

  I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ will fit in a
  4U chassis, but we are building a new server and cannot get a 4U from
  the supplier that my current client wants to use. However, we can get a
  3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does anyone out there
  have a 405 out there that they have installed in a 3U?

  Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,
  Sherwood McGowan
  VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant

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Thanks for the suggestion, I'm actually working with SuperMicro on the 
deal. They ended up finding a 4U chassis (they had previously stated 
that they didn't sell 4u's anymore, but they found one in the back of 
the warehouse or something along those lines), and are shipping my 
server today.


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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-13 Thread Martin Smith
Have you tried GetVariableCommand and GetFullVariableCommand?

See
http://asterisk-java.org/development/apidocs/org/asteriskjava/fastagi/co
mmand/GetFullVariableCommand.html.

Martin 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sherwood McGowan
 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:31 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis  Digium TE405P?
 
 Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
  A quality 3U chassis will mount the cards parallel to the mainboard 
  with the use of a riser card, just as a 1U chassis does.
 
  If you are intent on sourcing the components yourself may I 
 suggest a 
  Tyan or Supermicro barebones server? I think that is the best 
  solution for integration in these sort of specialized 
 systems. I know 
  they've saved me many headaches.
 
  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Sherwood McGowan 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Gentlemen,
 
   First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk 
 mailing lists.
   Those of you who have been around for a while will 
 remember me as  
  Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the  
  future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I 
 cannot find 
  a  definitive answer for online.
 
   I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ 
 will fit 
  in a  4U chassis, but we are building a new server and 
 cannot get a 
  4U from  the supplier that my current client wants to use. 
 However, 
  we can get a  3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does 
  anyone out there  have a 405 out there that they have 
 installed in a 3U?
 
   Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,  Sherwood 
  McGowan  VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant
 
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 SuperMicro on the deal. They ended up finding a 4U chassis 
 (they had previously stated that they didn't sell 4u's 
 anymore, but they found one in the back of the warehouse or 
 something along those lines), and are shipping my server today.
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-13 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 13 May 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

 Gordon,

 Did you hijack someone else's thread?  You should really start your own.

Not really - I was replying to the 3U/1U thread and rambled on a bit ...

 Anyways, I have had great luck with TDM card to TDM card faxes on the
 same box.

 I think you want echocancelwhenbridged=no at least that made TDM
 faxing almost perfect for my installations.

 The only thing I would be concerned with are the sometimes painful IRQ
 issues.

They're separate.

Thanks,

Gordon

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[asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-12 Thread Sherwood McGowan
Gentlemen,

First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk mailing lists. 
Those of you who have been around for a while will remember me as 
Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the 
future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I cannot find a 
definitive answer for online.

I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ will fit in a 
4U chassis, but we are building a new server and cannot get a 4U from 
the supplier that my current client wants to use. However, we can get a 
3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does anyone out there 
have a 405 out there that they have installed in a 3U?

Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,
Sherwood McGowan
VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-12 Thread Matt Watson
I'm not sure if a full-height card would fit (vertically) in a 3U chassis... 
but I would probably also assume that if it would not, that the chassis/mobo 
would have a PCI/PCI-Express riser card that would mount the cards horizontally.

Might want to check that out with the manufacturer of the chassis.

--
Matt

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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:29 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis  Digium TE405P?

Gentlemen,

First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk mailing lists.
Those of you who have been around for a while will remember me as
Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the
future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I cannot find a
definitive answer for online.

I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ will fit in a
4U chassis, but we are building a new server and cannot get a 4U from
the supplier that my current client wants to use. However, we can get a
3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does anyone out there
have a 405 out there that they have installed in a 3U?

Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,
Sherwood McGowan
VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-12 Thread Sherwood McGowan
Matt Watson wrote:
 I'm not sure if a full-height card would fit (vertically) in a 3U chassis... 
 but I would probably also assume that if it would not, that the chassis/mobo 
 would have a PCI/PCI-Express riser card that would mount the cards 
 horizontally.

 Might want to check that out with the manufacturer of the chassis.

 --
 Matt

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 McGowan
 Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:29 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis  Digium TE405P?

 Gentlemen,

 First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk mailing lists.
 Those of you who have been around for a while will remember me as
 Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the
 future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I cannot find a
 definitive answer for online.

 I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ will fit in a
 4U chassis, but we are building a new server and cannot get a 4U from
 the supplier that my current client wants to use. However, we can get a
 3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does anyone out there
 have a 405 out there that they have installed in a 3U?

 Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,
 Sherwood McGowan
 VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant

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Thanks for the heads up, I've found full height capable 3U chassis. The 
worst thing about this whole ordeal was that I assumed (very bad idea, 
of course, stupid stupid stupid) that the 2u server had a riser card, 
which it did not :( Ah well, live and learn...

Sherwood McGowan

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-12 Thread Al Baker
Getting the RIGHT card for the RIGHT bus type and the RIGHT Chassis is 
NOT as simple
as everyone will lead you to believe.

My suggestion, worth exactly what you paid for it :)

Get Exact Spec for the card your are considering and FAX / Email to PC 
vendor and have him
send you In Writing that the card WILL fit in the box and in the bus.

Then I would get the Exact Spec for the BOX and BUS in the box and send 
to DIGIUM or their OEM
and get THEM to tell you it should all work.

Overkill - some will say yes.
But
THEY won't be sitting there with you if your expensive Server comes in 
and your expensive   card come in an they no-workie together

Sherwood McGowan wrote:
 Matt Watson wrote:
   
 I'm not sure if a full-height card would fit (vertically) in a 3U chassis... 
 but I would probably also assume that if it would not, that the chassis/mobo 
 would have a PCI/PCI-Express riser card that would mount the cards 
 horizontally.

 Might want to check that out with the manufacturer of the chassis.

 --
 Matt

 -Original Message-
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 McGowan
 Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:29 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis  Digium TE405P?

 Gentlemen,

 First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk mailing lists.
 Those of you who have been around for a while will remember me as
 Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the
 future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I cannot find a
 definitive answer for online.

 I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ will fit in a
 4U chassis, but we are building a new server and cannot get a 4U from
 the supplier that my current client wants to use. However, we can get a
 3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does anyone out there
 have a 405 out there that they have installed in a 3U?

 Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,
 Sherwood McGowan
 VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant

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 Thanks for the heads up, I've found full height capable 3U chassis. The 
 worst thing about this whole ordeal was that I assumed (very bad idea, 
 of course, stupid stupid stupid) that the 2u server had a riser card, 
 which it did not :( Ah well, live and learn...

 Sherwood McGowan

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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Totaro
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Sherwood McGowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Matt Watson wrote:
   I'm not sure if a full-height card would fit (vertically) in a 3U 
 chassis... but I would probably also assume that if it would not, that the 
 chassis/mobo would have a PCI/PCI-Express riser card that would mount the 
 cards horizontally.
  
   Might want to check that out with the manufacturer of the chassis.
  
   --
   Matt
  
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   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:29 AM
   To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   Subject: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis  Digium TE405P?
  
   Gentlemen,
  
   First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk mailing lists.
   Those of you who have been around for a while will remember me as
   Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the
   future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I cannot find a
   definitive answer for online.
  
   I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ will fit in a
   4U chassis, but we are building a new server and cannot get a 4U from
   the supplier that my current client wants to use. However, we can get a
   3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does anyone out there
   have a 405 out there that they have installed in a 3U?
  
   Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,
   Sherwood McGowan
   VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant
  
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  Thanks for the heads up, I've found full height capable 3U chassis. The
  worst thing about this whole ordeal was that I assumed (very bad idea,
  of course, stupid stupid stupid) that the 2u server had a riser card,
  which it did not :( Ah well, live and learn...

  Sherwood McGowan



Riser cards are dirt cheap.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=riser+cardcategory0=

You can put a TE405 in a 1 server (horizontally of course).

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] 3U server chassis Digium TE405P?

2008-05-12 Thread Andreas van dem Helge
A quality 3U chassis will mount the cards parallel to the mainboard
with the use of a riser card, just as a 1U chassis does.

If you are intent on sourcing the components yourself may I suggest a
Tyan or Supermicro barebones server? I think that is the best
solution for integration in these sort of specialized systems. I know
they've saved me many headaches.

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Sherwood McGowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gentlemen,

  First let me say it's great to be back on the Asterisk mailing lists.
  Those of you who have been around for a while will remember me as
  Rushowr. I look forward to answering questions and whatnot in the
  future, but for the moment I have a minor question that I cannot find a
  definitive answer for online.

  I am in possession of a Digium TE405P card which I _know_ will fit in a
  4U chassis, but we are building a new server and cannot get a 4U from
  the supplier that my current client wants to use. However, we can get a
  3U chassis. My question is, will this card fit? Does anyone out there
  have a 405 out there that they have installed in a 3U?

  Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered,
  Sherwood McGowan
  VoIP / Telecom Solutions Consultant

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