Re: [asterisk-users] ADSL routers with integrated SIP QoS for other devices
Thanks to all who replied to my thread a few days ago SIP devices with packet loss tolerance. One of the suggestions that came out of that thread was to replace routers at users' premises with ones that support QoS. I've used m0n0wall's QoS in the past with reasonable success, but it's quite a bulky and complex setup for deploying to remote sites which I'll never visit (minimum 3 boxes - ADSL modem, m0n0, WiFi AP). So, does anyone have any recommendations for a wireless ADSL router with integrated QoS for SIP/RTP? I've looked at some of the Draytek units (e.g. Vigor 2700V), but I can't find reference as to whether the integrated QoS applies only to the FXS ports in the router itself, or to all SIP traffic (most of the users will have separate SIP hardphones). These are all to be used in the UK, so the device in question needs to support PPPoA. Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. There are quite a few software stacks for the linksys wrt54g routers/ap's, some of them supportq qos. I hear good things about the wrt routers in general. -- Remco Post I didn't write all this code, and I can't even pretend that all of it makes sense. -- Glen Hattrup ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ADSL routers with integrated SIP QoS for other devices
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Saturday 28 April 2007 11:22 am, Chris Bagnall wrote: Thanks to all who replied to my thread a few days ago SIP devices with packet loss tolerance. One of the suggestions that came out of that thread was to replace routers at users' premises with ones that support QoS. Sangoma S518 (internal PCI) on a Linux box with iproute2/iptables/tc or BSD with pf. These are the best solutions, IMO. The latest Linux kernels also have SIP connection tracking/matching, so it should be possible to mark packets and prioritize based on iptables matching. I have not done this just yet, as the latest 2.6.20/2.6.21 kernels do not play nice with the wanrouter drivers. (note: there was a recent patch to 2.6.20.4 which apparently has much better SIP matching, and has been tested successfully with Asterisk. I have not tested it yet, and the iptables guys have rejected the patch as their direction for packet matching is shifting significantly in the near future. It can be found at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.firewalls.netfilter.devel/18860.) I'm still looking for a miniPCI ADSL chipset that Linux can use, or an actual raw ADSL non-PCI chipset that I can design into an embedded system. If anyone has any leads, please don't hesitate to contact me! Any chance we can get to see this as it sounds just what i'm looking for? If you're curious, I have my rc.tc script for Linux up on http://mixdown.ca/~andrew/rc.tc. Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~andrew/rc.tc on this server. It's loosely based off of wondershaper, but works much better, IMO. It does host-based prioritization for VOIP, puts mail just underneath bulk traffic, and P2P beyond that (if you have the p2p connmark stuff set). I can completely saturate DSL links with the S518 with this config without appreciable VOIP degradation. Even without an S518, this script works well with external ADSL/cable modems. You may have to play with the upload rate; some cheap ADSL modems will start blocking your upstream traffic beyond as little as 50% of the upstream rate. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Thanks Bails ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ADSL routers with integrated SIP QoS for other devices
On Monday 30 April 2007 4:14 pm, bails wrote: I'm still looking for a miniPCI ADSL chipset that Linux can use, or an actual raw ADSL non-PCI chipset that I can design into an embedded system. If anyone has any leads, please don't hesitate to contact me! Any chance we can get to see this as it sounds just what i'm looking for? Once I find something, yes. :-) If you're curious, I have my rc.tc script for Linux up on http://mixdown.ca/~andrew/rc.tc. Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~andrew/rc.tc on this server. Fixed. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] ADSL routers with integrated SIP QoS for other devices
Try the intertex gateways http://www.intertex.se/ Here their page outlining the their QoS settings: http://www.intertex.se/products/page.asp?iPageID=143 They have models with ADSL models and wireless access point components. -- Salvatore Giudice [EMAIL PROTECTED] VoIP Security Training, LLC http://VoIPSecurityTraining.com 848 N. Rainbow Blvd. #1676 Las Vegas, NV 89107 Phone: (617) 959-7625 Fax: (214) 279-2906 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Bagnall Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 11:22 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: [asterisk-users] ADSL routers with integrated SIP QoS for other devices Greetings list, Thanks to all who replied to my thread a few days ago SIP devices with packet loss tolerance. One of the suggestions that came out of that thread was to replace routers at users' premises with ones that support QoS. I've used m0n0wall's QoS in the past with reasonable success, but it's quite a bulky and complex setup for deploying to remote sites which I'll never visit (minimum 3 boxes - ADSL modem, m0n0, WiFi AP). So, does anyone have any recommendations for a wireless ADSL router with integrated QoS for SIP/RTP? I've looked at some of the Draytek units (e.g. Vigor 2700V), but I can't find reference as to whether the integrated QoS applies only to the FXS ports in the router itself, or to all SIP traffic (most of the users will have separate SIP hardphones). These are all to be used in the UK, so the device in question needs to support PPPoA. Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it/chris.html This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] ADSL routers with integrated SIP QoS for other devices
Greetings list, Thanks to all who replied to my thread a few days ago SIP devices with packet loss tolerance. One of the suggestions that came out of that thread was to replace routers at users' premises with ones that support QoS. I've used m0n0wall's QoS in the past with reasonable success, but it's quite a bulky and complex setup for deploying to remote sites which I'll never visit (minimum 3 boxes - ADSL modem, m0n0, WiFi AP). So, does anyone have any recommendations for a wireless ADSL router with integrated QoS for SIP/RTP? I've looked at some of the Draytek units (e.g. Vigor 2700V), but I can't find reference as to whether the integrated QoS applies only to the FXS ports in the router itself, or to all SIP traffic (most of the users will have separate SIP hardphones). These are all to be used in the UK, so the device in question needs to support PPPoA. Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it/chris.html This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ADSL routers with integrated SIP QoS for other devices
On Saturday 28 April 2007 11:22 am, Chris Bagnall wrote: Thanks to all who replied to my thread a few days ago SIP devices with packet loss tolerance. One of the suggestions that came out of that thread was to replace routers at users' premises with ones that support QoS. Sangoma S518 (internal PCI) on a Linux box with iproute2/iptables/tc or BSD with pf. These are the best solutions, IMO. The latest Linux kernels also have SIP connection tracking/matching, so it should be possible to mark packets and prioritize based on iptables matching. I have not done this just yet, as the latest 2.6.20/2.6.21 kernels do not play nice with the wanrouter drivers. (note: there was a recent patch to 2.6.20.4 which apparently has much better SIP matching, and has been tested successfully with Asterisk. I have not tested it yet, and the iptables guys have rejected the patch as their direction for packet matching is shifting significantly in the near future. It can be found at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.firewalls.netfilter.devel/18860.) I'm still looking for a miniPCI ADSL chipset that Linux can use, or an actual raw ADSL non-PCI chipset that I can design into an embedded system. If anyone has any leads, please don't hesitate to contact me! If you're curious, I have my rc.tc script for Linux up on http://mixdown.ca/~andrew/rc.tc. It's loosely based off of wondershaper, but works much better, IMO. It does host-based prioritization for VOIP, puts mail just underneath bulk traffic, and P2P beyond that (if you have the p2p connmark stuff set). I can completely saturate DSL links with the S518 with this config without appreciable VOIP degradation. Even without an S518, this script works well with external ADSL/cable modems. You may have to play with the upload rate; some cheap ADSL modems will start blocking your upstream traffic beyond as little as 50% of the upstream rate. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
