Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-20 Thread Andrew Thomas
Message- -- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- -- boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jared Smith -- Sent: 18 February 2009 15:57 -- To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion -- Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book -- -- On Wed

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 15:22 +1300, Michael wrote: This is everything that is wrong with Open Source - no body wants to pay for anything Your statement is not correct! Well atleast half of it. You should have said: -no body wants to pay for anything- This has absolutely nothing to do

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
This has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that something is opensource. The fact that the source is open has nothing todo with its pricetag. Sometimes opensource products are more expensive then closed source products. If you want support/maintenance/dedicated_features/you-name-it

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
Big companies, especially those with major computing systems use paid software because they want a vendor they can hold responsible for it. As for OSS and FOSS, it is majorly used by the sort of businesses and individuals who call me (and other IT pros) up and talk the talk, but they

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread SIP
Michael wrote: This has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that something is opensource. The fact that the source is open has nothing todo with its pricetag. Sometimes opensource products are more expensive then closed source products. If you want

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
\ No... there's no shortage of work that needs doing. But there's a definite shortage of money to pay those to do it -- hence the massive, worldwide layoffs. Your little corner may not be affected, but to discount basic economics because you don't see it? Well... that's incredibly

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Wilton Helm
This problem is only going to get worse as the so-called 'recession' bites... fellow I.T. professionals - get used to your clients trying to weasel free service out of you. Everything I am hearing from fellow I.T. people is that there is no shortage of 'work' but a lot of clients are resisting

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
Not entirely. I've been trying for two years to get someone to work with my small Linux system. One guy never had time to come. I finally got someone out who was going to charge either $125 or $175 per hour (USD) depending on whether he decided it was a computer problem or a network

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Steve Totaro
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Michael mich...@networkstuff.co.nz wrote: Not entirely. I've been trying for two years to get someone to work with my small Linux system. One guy never had time to come. I finally got someone out who was going to charge either $125 or $175 per hour (USD)

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
I also think you should check the economic stimulus package. There are billions of dollars allocated to ISPs. It could be a windfall. Yoohoo! Let's print some more money. I don't think that's been tried before ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Michael wrote: I also think you should check the economic stimulus package. There are billions of dollars allocated to ISPs. It could be a windfall. Yoohoo! Let's print some more money. I don't think that's been tried before You must of course know all about

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Wilton Helm
did you get your Samba issue fixed? Yes, I finally figured it out this morning. I had the domain set to match that of the web site it was serving, which was on the other side of a router, so not even on the local subnet. The DNS queries from that got Samba all messed up. Ugh! Yes, I would

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
You must of course know all about how things are working here in the states while you sit in NZ. The money is not being printed. It is being I am well informed thanks to the global reach of such excellent purveyours of quality news and information such as Fox and CNN. raised and accounted

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Steve Totaro
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Michael mich...@networkstuff.co.nz wrote: I also think you should check the economic stimulus package. There are billions of dollars allocated to ISPs. It could be a windfall. Yoohoo! Let's print some more money. I don't think that's been tried

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Diehl
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 13:46 +1300, Michael wrote: I also think you should check the economic stimulus package. There are billions of dollars allocated to ISPs. It could be a windfall. Yoohoo! Let's print some more money. I don't think that's been tried before Of course it has!

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Steve Totaro
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Michael mich...@networkstuff.co.nz wrote: You must of course know all about how things are working here in the states while you sit in NZ. The money is not being printed. It is being I am well informed thanks to the global reach of such excellent

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
Hey I am against any Federal bailouts (wrote in Ron Paul and donated to his campaign for presidency as well as being an active member of the Campaign for Liberty http://campaignforliberty.com) , but they are a reality. Shame Ron Paul was shafted of fair media attention. He would be an

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread John Novack
Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Michael wrote: I also think you should check the economic stimulus package. There are billions of dollars allocated to ISPs. It could be a windfall. Yoohoo! Let's print some more money. I don't think that's been tried before

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
Money is borrowed at the Prime Rate which is between 0% and .25% but thus far, China and Japan have been lending the largest portions as well as other foreign countries. I am not saying this is any better but you should get your facts straight. I am well aware of this. I am also well aware

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, John Novack wrote: This will take a very long time to work itself out, and folks better get used to some very lean times. Be thankful you have a marketable skill. Not that it seems to be getting me any interviews :) j ___ --

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Emmanuel Bruno
Is this the asterisk users list? or some political list? or maybe i dunno, i am confused On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Michael mich...@networkstuff.co.nz wrote: Money is borrowed at the Prime Rate which is between 0% and .25% but thus far, China and Japan have been lending the

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Emmanuel Bruno
i dont see the connection with AGI pdf book On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Emmanuel Bruno tipas...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the asterisk users list? or some political list? or maybe i dunno, i am confused On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Michael mich...@networkstuff.co.nzwrote:

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-19 Thread Michael
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:28:23 you wrote: Is this the asterisk users list? or some political list? or maybe i dunno, i am confused Sorry. I'll make that my last post on the subject. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by

[asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread michel freiha
Dear Sir, Can someone help me please to find a free ebook talking about AGI scripting through asterisk? Regards ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread David fire
http://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf asterisk-support books section Asterisk: The Future of Telephonyhttp://www.digium.com/elqNow/elqRedir.htm?ref=http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf is greate. David 2009/2/18 michel

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread michel freiha
Dear Sir, the asterisk book from oreilly does not make full description to the AGI scripting...I suggest please if someone advice to me a free PDF book just dedicated for AGI and nothing else Regards On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM, David fire ddf...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Danny Nicholas
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:37 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book Dear Sir, the asterisk book from oreilly does not make full description to the AGI scripting...I suggest please if someone advice to me a free PDF book

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Jared Smith
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 14:36 +0200, michel freiha wrote: the asterisk book from oreilly does not make full description to the AGI scripting... You're right.. the O'Reilly book doesn't make a full and complete description of AGI programming. (It was better than anything else written at the time,

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Danny Nicholas wrote: The AGI is also applicable for (at least) PHP and C+. An AGI (or more accurately, an executable conforming to the AGI specification) can be written in any language -- Fortran, assembly, shell script, BLISS (if you wanted to fastagi over to a VAX

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, michel freiha wrote: I suggest please if someone advice to me a free PDF book just dedicated for AGI and nothing else It takes a rare individual to put the effort required to write a book and then distribute it for free. I would like to write it, but my kids have grown

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Emmanuel Bruno
I think PHP is the best language to write AGIs, there is a library available (PHPAGI) and it is easier to work with as compared to the complexity of the C language. That book written by Nir Simionovich (Asterisk AGI 1.4 and 1.6 Programming) clearly describe the pros and cons of writing AGI

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Emmanuel Bruno
There's a cheaper pdf version of his book as well. You can get more info at: http://www.packtpub.com/asterisk-gateway-interface-programming/book On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Emmanuel Bruno tipas...@gmail.com wrote: I think PHP is the best language to write AGIs, there is a library

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Jose P. Espinal
Just for the records, Those of you who likes PHP simplicity (I'm one of them :) ) , but would like C small footprint, and almost *incomparable speed*; there's a PHP compiler that takes PHP code to C, and produces an optimized executable. You can see it here:

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Michael
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:35:25 Steve Edwards wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, michel freiha wrote: I suggest please if someone advice to me a free PDF book just dedicated for AGI and nothing else It takes a rare individual to put the effort required to write a book and then distribute it for

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Michael wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:35:25 Steve Edwards wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, michel freiha wrote: I suggest please if someone advice to me a free PDF book just dedicated for AGI and nothing else It takes a rare individual to put the effort required to write a book and then

Re: [asterisk-users] AGI pdf book

2009-02-18 Thread Michael
I would like to write it, but my kids have grown accustomed to eating :) This is everything that is wrong with Open Source - no body wants to pay for anything Hi my name is nobody. I like to pay for many (FOSS) things. Not as much as I'd like but when the right Powerball ticket