Re: [asterisk-users] Any impact on VoIP from loss of Net neutrality

2017-12-17 Thread Ron Wheeler


The article seems to focus on ISPs charging more for VoIP traffic.
This is only a money argument but seems to ignore the fact that my call 
from Montreal, Canada to Palm Springs, California will travel through a 
few networks that have no relationship with me.


It appears that carriers could increase latency on "foreign" VoIP 
traffic which could reduce us to being able to buy good local call 
service but unable to use phones for long distance calls.


Should national and multinational companies be concerned that even their 
ability to use the telephone for internal calls could be impacted by 
this.  It seems clear that the ability to make calls to customers and 
suppliers will become uncertain and potentially vary from cases to case.


Ron

On 16/12/2017 1:05 PM, Eric Klein wrote:

Hi Ron

There was an article back in July looking at what might happen

How does the 2017 Net Neutrality Debate Affect VoIP? ( 
https://voipstudio.com/2017-net-neutrality-debate-affect-voip/ )


In general, anything that allows them to charge more, limit, or 
prioritize can affect VoIP.
There were cases in the past where the carriers would do this via Deep 
Packet Inspection (DPI) to block services that competed with their own 
services. So it is not hard to envision this happening in the future.


That said., the vote was not the end of the story. There is still a 
law suit pending on this topic and Congress is being forced to review 
the decision (and potentially finally create a proper law). ( 
http://uproxx.com/news/senate-democrats-cc-net-neutrality-fight/ )


So it is worth it to contact your Senator and let them know what you 
think they are supposed to be doing in your name.


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Has there been any discussion about the the effect of the changes
in net
neutrality to VoIP service quality.

It seems to me that prioritizing streaming traffic from certain
content
delivery companies could have an impact on the latency for VoIP which
could disrupt phone service.

I found this article
https://voipstudio.com/2017-net-neutrality-debate-affect-voip/
<https://voipstudio.com/2017-net-neutrality-debate-affect-voip/>

It seems to be assuming that VoIP traffic only traverses one
network and
that my trunk provider will be able to charge me more and
guarantee that
my traffic get priority but I am pretty sure that at least some of my
traffic crosses many networks.

Am I way off track?


Ron

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Re: [asterisk-users] Any impact on VoIP from loss of Net neutrality

2017-12-16 Thread Eric Klein
Hi Ron

There was an article back in July looking at what might happen

How does the 2017 Net Neutrality Debate Affect VoIP? (
https://voipstudio.com/2017-net-neutrality-debate-affect-voip/ )

In general, anything that allows them to charge more, limit, or prioritize
can affect VoIP.
There were cases in the past where the carriers would do this via Deep
Packet Inspection (DPI) to block services that competed with their own
services. So it is not hard to envision this happening in the future.

That said., the vote was not the end of the story. There is still a law
suit pending on this topic and Congress is being forced to review the
decision (and potentially finally create a proper law). (
http://uproxx.com/news/senate-democrats-cc-net-neutrality-fight/ )

So it is worth it to contact your Senator and let them know what you think
they are supposed to be doing in your name.

Eric Klein
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> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:42:00 -0500
> From: Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-users] Any impact on VoIP from loss of Net
> neutrality
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> Has there been any discussion about the the effect of the changes in net
> neutrality to VoIP service quality.
>
> It seems to me that prioritizing streaming traffic from certain content
> delivery companies could have an impact on the latency for VoIP which
> could disrupt phone service.
>
> I found this article
> https://voipstudio.com/2017-net-neutrality-debate-affect-voip/
>
> It seems to be assuming that VoIP traffic only traverses one network and
> that my trunk provider will be able to charge me more and guarantee that
> my traffic get priority but I am pretty sure that at least some of my
> traffic crosses many networks.
>
> Am I way off track?
>
>
> Ron
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
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[asterisk-users] Any impact on VoIP from loss of Net neutrality

2017-12-15 Thread Ron Wheeler
Has there been any discussion about the the effect of the changes in net 
neutrality to VoIP service quality.


It seems to me that prioritizing streaming traffic from certain content 
delivery companies could have an impact on the latency for VoIP which 
could disrupt phone service.


I found this article 
https://voipstudio.com/2017-net-neutrality-debate-affect-voip/


It seems to be assuming that VoIP traffic only traverses one network and 
that my trunk provider will be able to charge me more and guarantee that 
my traffic get priority but I am pretty sure that at least some of my 
traffic crosses many networks.


Am I way off track?


Ron

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skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102


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