Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-12 Thread Olivier
I didn't know spandsp could do 14.4k : that's great !
So, now I'm realizing how strange my previous question could resonate.

Thanks for clarifying this.

2012/1/11, Steve Underwood :
> On 01/11/2012 11:16 PM, Olivier wrote:
>> 2012/1/11, Steve Underwood:
>>> On 01/11/2012 03:01 PM, Olivier wrote:
 2012/1/5, Kevin P. Fleming:
> On 01/04/2012 12:25 AM, Matt Darnell wrote:
>> Aloha,
>>
>> We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network
>> layout:
>>
>> ISDN-PRI<-->Asterisk<-->T.38<-->ATA<-->Fax
>>
>> Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
>> like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.
>>
>> What ATA's are people using?
>>
>> Any working solutions would be great!
> What you are looking for is T.38 gateway mode (converting between T.30
> over modems on a TDM circuit and T.38 over UDPTL), and the answer is
> no:
> Asterisk 1.8 does not have T.38 gateway mode. Asterisk 10 does, and it
> is supported using SpanDSP and res_fax_spandsp. It is not yet supported
> by Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX module.
 Do you have any idea when  Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX
 module could roughly become supported ?
>>> Are you really desperate to pay for functionality you can get for free?
>> Not yet ;-)))
>> But the increased fax sending speed (14.4 kbs/s says the datasheet but
>> I must be too naive to still read datasheets) may be a feature
>> interesting for some.
>>
>> By the way, which spandsp version would recommend for asterisk 10 ?
>> spandsp-0.0.6pre18.tgz ?
>>
> How is 14.4k an increase? Both spandsp and the Digium modules do 14.4k.
> There is nothing the Digium module does which spandsp does not do, and
> the file handling in spandsp is more flexible.
>
> spandsp-0.0.6pre18.tgz is currently the right version to use?
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-11 Thread Steve Underwood

On 01/11/2012 11:16 PM, Olivier wrote:

2012/1/11, Steve Underwood:

On 01/11/2012 03:01 PM, Olivier wrote:

2012/1/5, Kevin P. Fleming:

On 01/04/2012 12:25 AM, Matt Darnell wrote:

Aloha,

We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network
layout:

ISDN-PRI<-->Asterisk<-->T.38<-->ATA<-->Fax

Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.

What ATA's are people using?

Any working solutions would be great!

What you are looking for is T.38 gateway mode (converting between T.30
over modems on a TDM circuit and T.38 over UDPTL), and the answer is no:
Asterisk 1.8 does not have T.38 gateway mode. Asterisk 10 does, and it
is supported using SpanDSP and res_fax_spandsp. It is not yet supported
by Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX module.

Do you have any idea when  Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX
module could roughly become supported ?

Are you really desperate to pay for functionality you can get for free?

Not yet ;-)))
But the increased fax sending speed (14.4 kbs/s says the datasheet but
I must be too naive to still read datasheets) may be a feature
interesting for some.

By the way, which spandsp version would recommend for asterisk 10 ?
spandsp-0.0.6pre18.tgz ?

How is 14.4k an increase? Both spandsp and the Digium modules do 14.4k. 
There is nothing the Digium module does which spandsp does not do, and 
the file handling in spandsp is more flexible.


spandsp-0.0.6pre18.tgz is currently the right version to use?

Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-11 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 01/11/2012 09:16 AM, Olivier wrote:

2012/1/11, Steve Underwood:

On 01/11/2012 03:01 PM, Olivier wrote:

2012/1/5, Kevin P. Fleming:

On 01/04/2012 12:25 AM, Matt Darnell wrote:

Aloha,

We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network
layout:

ISDN-PRI<-->Asterisk<-->T.38<-->ATA<-->Fax

Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.

What ATA's are people using?

Any working solutions would be great!

What you are looking for is T.38 gateway mode (converting between T.30
over modems on a TDM circuit and T.38 over UDPTL), and the answer is no:
Asterisk 1.8 does not have T.38 gateway mode. Asterisk 10 does, and it
is supported using SpanDSP and res_fax_spandsp. It is not yet supported
by Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX module.

Do you have any idea when  Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX
module could roughly become supported ?

Are you really desperate to pay for functionality you can get for free?


Not yet ;-)))
But the increased fax sending speed (14.4 kbs/s says the datasheet but
I must be too naive to still read datasheets) may be a feature
interesting for some.

By the way, which spandsp version would recommend for asterisk 10 ?
spandsp-0.0.6pre18.tgz ?


There are currently no modem speed differences between res_fax_spandsp 
and res_fax_digium. Both support all commonly-used FAX modems except 
V.34. We do not currently have an estimate on when Fax For Asterisk will 
support T.38 gateway mode (or V.34, for that matter).


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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-11 Thread Olivier
2012/1/11, Steve Underwood :
> On 01/11/2012 03:01 PM, Olivier wrote:
>> 2012/1/5, Kevin P. Fleming:
>>> On 01/04/2012 12:25 AM, Matt Darnell wrote:
 Aloha,

 We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network
 layout:

 ISDN-PRI<-->   Asterisk<-->   T.38<-->   ATA<-->   Fax

 Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
 like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.

 What ATA's are people using?

 Any working solutions would be great!
>>> What you are looking for is T.38 gateway mode (converting between T.30
>>> over modems on a TDM circuit and T.38 over UDPTL), and the answer is no:
>>> Asterisk 1.8 does not have T.38 gateway mode. Asterisk 10 does, and it
>>> is supported using SpanDSP and res_fax_spandsp. It is not yet supported
>>> by Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX module.
>> Do you have any idea when  Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX
>> module could roughly become supported ?
> Are you really desperate to pay for functionality you can get for free?

Not yet ;-)))
But the increased fax sending speed (14.4 kbs/s says the datasheet but
I must be too naive to still read datasheets) may be a feature
interesting for some.

By the way, which spandsp version would recommend for asterisk 10 ?
spandsp-0.0.6pre18.tgz ?
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-11 Thread Steve Underwood

On 01/11/2012 03:01 PM, Olivier wrote:

2012/1/5, Kevin P. Fleming:

On 01/04/2012 12:25 AM, Matt Darnell wrote:

Aloha,

We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network
layout:

ISDN-PRI<-->   Asterisk<-->   T.38<-->   ATA<-->   Fax

Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.

What ATA's are people using?

Any working solutions would be great!

What you are looking for is T.38 gateway mode (converting between T.30
over modems on a TDM circuit and T.38 over UDPTL), and the answer is no:
Asterisk 1.8 does not have T.38 gateway mode. Asterisk 10 does, and it
is supported using SpanDSP and res_fax_spandsp. It is not yet supported
by Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX module.

Do you have any idea when  Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX
module could roughly become supported ?

Are you really desperate to pay for functionality you can get for free?

Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-10 Thread Olivier
2012/1/5, Kevin P. Fleming :
> On 01/04/2012 12:25 AM, Matt Darnell wrote:
>> Aloha,
>>
>> We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network
>> layout:
>>
>> ISDN-PRI<-->  Asterisk<-->  T.38<-->  ATA<-->  Fax
>>
>> Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
>> like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.
>>
>> What ATA's are people using?
>>
>> Any working solutions would be great!
>
> What you are looking for is T.38 gateway mode (converting between T.30
> over modems on a TDM circuit and T.38 over UDPTL), and the answer is no:
> Asterisk 1.8 does not have T.38 gateway mode. Asterisk 10 does, and it
> is supported using SpanDSP and res_fax_spandsp. It is not yet supported
> by Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX module.

Do you have any idea when  Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX
module could roughly become supported ?

>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-06 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Benny Amorsen wrote:

> David Backeberg  writes:
>
> > Thanks for clearing that up. I was getting all excited that I could
> > flash the PAP2T; I've always used regular voice tones over SIP with
> > the PAP2Ts.
>
> SPA-2102 supports T.38. If you ignore the WAN-port, it is practically a
> PAP2T. The only time you cannot ignore the WAN-port is when doing
> provisioning.


I ignore the LAN (yellow) port and only use the WAN (blue) port. The LAN
port has a DHCP server enabled by default. The WAN port is setup with a
DHCP client. The good thing about using the WAN port is if the settings are
cleared you won't have an unknown DHCP server on your network.

I plug a phone in and dial the below. Then you can configure the rest from
the web interface.

 to enter admin ivr
7932 enter 1 to enable web interface
110 will read the WAN address

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-06 Thread Benny Amorsen
David Backeberg  writes:

> Thanks for clearing that up. I was getting all excited that I could
> flash the PAP2T; I've always used regular voice tones over SIP with
> the PAP2Ts.

SPA-2102 supports T.38. If you ignore the WAN-port, it is practically a
PAP2T. The only time you cannot ignore the WAN-port is when doing
provisioning.


/Benny


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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-05 Thread David Backeberg
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Steve Underwood  wrote:
> No PAP2 or PAP2T supports T.38, even though many people will swear that they
> do. For a little while there was some beta code for the PAP2T with badly
> broken T.38 support. Perhaps this is where the "legend of T.38 on a PAP2T"
> started. Of course, on the internet, when someone posts an incorrect message
> many people would like to believe is right, a 1000 people cite it as proven
> fact.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was getting all excited that I could
flash the PAP2T; I've always used regular voice tones over SIP with
the PAP2Ts.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-05 Thread Steve Underwood

On 01/05/2012 07:45 PM, Michael Keuter wrote:

Am 05.01.2012 um 04:55 schrieb Matt Darnell:


On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Klaverstyn
  wrote:

I'm using  the Linksys PAP2T and the Grandstream with SpanDSP and tx_fax and 
rx_fax on multiple installations with no problems.

David,

Are you running 10.0 or 1.8?

Glad to know that the PAP2T has a solid T.38 implementation!

-Matt

There seem to be at least 2 versions of the PAP2T. The one I have (in Germany) 
does NOT support T.38.

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info
No PAP2 or PAP2T supports T.38, even though many people will swear that 
they do. For a little while there was some beta code for the PAP2T with 
badly broken T.38 support. Perhaps this is where the "legend of T.38 on 
a PAP2T" started. Of course, on the internet, when someone posts an 
incorrect message many people would like to believe is right, a 1000 
people cite it as proven fact.


Steve



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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Keuter

Am 05.01.2012 um 04:55 schrieb Matt Darnell:

> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Klaverstyn
>  wrote:
>> I'm using  the Linksys PAP2T and the Grandstream with SpanDSP and tx_fax and 
>> rx_fax on multiple installations with no problems.
> 
> David,
> 
> Are you running 10.0 or 1.8?
> 
> Glad to know that the PAP2T has a solid T.38 implementation!
> 
> -Matt

There seem to be at least 2 versions of the PAP2T. The one I have (in Germany) 
does NOT support T.38.

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info





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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-05 Thread Frank Sautter
On 04.01.2012 07:25, Matt Darnell wrote:
> We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network layout:
> 
> ISDN-PRI <--> Asterisk <--> T.38 <--> ATA <--> Fax
> 
> Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
> like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.
> 
> What ATA's are people using?
> 
> Any working solutions would be great!

we are using such a setup:


Telco <-PRI-> bero*fixBox <-BRI-> Fritz!BoxFon <-analog-> FaxMachine
  |
  +--<-SIP-> Asterisk <-SIP-> Phones
  |
  +-- t38modem <-tty-> Hylafax


The bero*fixBox http://www.beronet.com/product/berofix-gateways/ is has
one ISDN-PRI and 4 ISDN-BRI ports. The PRI-port is connected to the
telco, one of the ISDN-BRI ports is connected to an old Fritz!Box Fon
http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/FRITZBox/FRITZ_Box_Fon/index.php which has
3 (newer ones only 2) analog ports.

The calls are routed by the bero*fixBox to either the asterisk server or
the hylafax server based on the DID number.
The bero*fix box has ~30 softmodems that translate to T.38-SIP which is
then connected to the t38modem on the hylafax server which handles
around 70,000 faxpages a month.
Outgoing (incoming only for test purposes) faxes from our analog fax
machines are routed by our asterisk server back to the bero*fix box so
we achive bit-slip-free (and therefore reliable) connection.

Beronet also has PCI- and PCIe-cards to be directly installed in your
asterisk server.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-04 Thread Klaverstyn, David C
I'm using 1.8, but also have 1.4 and 1.2 installs using the same configuration.

Regards
David.


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Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2012 1:55 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Klaverstyn  
wrote:
> I'm using  the Linksys PAP2T and the Grandstream with SpanDSP and tx_fax and 
> rx_fax on multiple installations with no problems.

David,

Are you running 10.0 or 1.8?

Glad to know that the PAP2T has a solid T.38 implementation!

-Matt

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-04 Thread Matt Darnell
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Klaverstyn
 wrote:
> I'm using  the Linksys PAP2T and the Grandstream with SpanDSP and tx_fax and 
> rx_fax on multiple installations with no problems.

David,

Are you running 10.0 or 1.8?

Glad to know that the PAP2T has a solid T.38 implementation!

-Matt

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-04 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 01/04/2012 12:25 AM, Matt Darnell wrote:

Aloha,

We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network layout:

ISDN-PRI<-->  Asterisk<-->  T.38<-->  ATA<-->  Fax

Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.

What ATA's are people using?

Any working solutions would be great!


What you are looking for is T.38 gateway mode (converting between T.30 
over modems on a TDM circuit and T.38 over UDPTL), and the answer is no: 
Asterisk 1.8 does not have T.38 gateway mode. Asterisk 10 does, and it 
is supported using SpanDSP and res_fax_spandsp. It is not yet supported 
by Digium's Fax for Asterisk commercial FAX module.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-04 Thread David Klaverstyn
I'm using  the Linksys PAP2T and the Grandstream with SpanDSP and tx_fax and 
rx_fax on multiple installations with no problems.

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Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2012 4:25 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

Aloha,

We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network layout:

ISDN-PRI <--> Asterisk <--> T.38 <--> ATA <--> Fax

Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I like 1.8 
because it is a long term support version.

What ATA's are people using?

Any working solutions would be great!

Aloha,
Matt

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[asterisk-users] Anyone have a reliable T.38 Solution

2012-01-04 Thread Matt Darnell
Aloha,

We are looking to roll a solution that will have the following network layout:

ISDN-PRI <--> Asterisk <--> T.38 <--> ATA <--> Fax

Does version 1.8 with the Digium fax driver have this capability?  I
like 1.8 because it is a long term support version.

What ATA's are people using?

Any working solutions would be great!

Aloha,
Matt

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