Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an analog call recording solution (was: Recording outbound analog calls with X100P)

2006-11-17 Thread Matthew J. Roth

John Novack and Time Bandit,

Thank you for your excellent advice and for correcting me on the 12V 
power connector issue.  I feel confident to move forward on this project 
now.


Thanks,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an analog call recording solution (was: Recording outbound analog calls with X100P)

2006-11-16 Thread Matthew J. Roth

Time Bandit wrote:

Is it possible to record outbound analog calls using an X100P?

I was asked if I knew how to record all calls for a shop with 4 analog
phones transparently to the end users.  I thought Asterisk was a good
fit for this and I envisioned using either Digium TDM400Ps or Sangoma
A200s with 4 FXO and 4 FXS modules.  The FXO modules would be connected
to the existing PBX and the FXS modules to the existing analog phones.
Then with a simple dialplan, all inbound and outbound calls could be
recorded by Monitor.

I wanted to mock this up using some X100Ps that I had laying around, but
found that I could only record inbound calls.  I believe that I need an
FXS interface to record outbound analog calls but my past experience is
with T1 interfaces, so I could be mistaken.


Of course you can, if you have 4 FXO and 4 FXS, you could make a
really simple dialplan and record the calls that pass through it,
incoming or outgoing, and the users wouldn't even know that there is a
pbx between them and the PSTN.

You will need a lot of space to keep them all, but you could make a
simple cron job that would erase any recording older then, say, 2
months.

Also, you would have the benefit of having CDR

hth 

Thank you for the confirmation and the warning about disk space.

Now I need to decide between the Sangoma A20202 and the Digium TDM2411.  
I'm leaning heavily toward the Sangoma card for the following reasons:


- It doesn't require a 12V power connector for the operation of FXS modules.
- It is compatible with 5v and 3.3v PCI buses.
- It shares PCI interrupts properly.
- It maintains a single synchronous PCI interface for all FXO/FXS ports 
(additional daughterboards are added to a backplane bus connector)

- It has a better form factor.
- It is less expensive.

These are rather compelling reasons, but I'd still like some feedback 
from the list prior to making a purchase.


Both cards offer hardware echo cancellation for an additional cost.  Do 
the benefits of hardware EC justify the expense in this scenario?


Thank you,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer



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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an analog call recording solution (was: Recording outbound analog calls with X100P)

2006-11-16 Thread Time Bandit

Thank you for the confirmation and the warning about disk space.

Now I need to decide between the Sangoma A20202 and the Digium TDM2411.
I'm leaning heavily toward the Sangoma card for the following reasons:

- It doesn't require a 12V power connector for the operation of FXS modules.

Maybe, never used it so I can't confirm, but I doubt it since I'm
wondering where it would pull the needed power for the FXS (from the
PCI bus ???)


- It is compatible with 5v and 3.3v PCI buses.
- It shares PCI interrupts properly.
- It maintains a single synchronous PCI interface for all FXO/FXS ports
(additional daughterboards are added to a backplane bus connector)
- It has a better form factor.

Depends, if you want to put more than 4 ports in a 1U server, should
be easier to put a full-length TDM2400P than try to squeeze 2 A200
cards side-by-side.


- It is less expensive.

These are rather compelling reasons, but I'd still like some feedback
from the list prior to making a purchase.

I've seen lots of good comments on the Sangoma cards and on their
support. I never used the A200 but I can confirm that Sangoma say they
support FAX calls, while Digium say that the TDM2400P was only
designed for voice. YMMV


Both cards offer hardware echo cancellation for an additional cost.  Do
the benefits of hardware EC justify the expense in this scenario?

Usually when you bridge 2 ZAP channels you don't need echo cancel. I
would buy without the echo canceller and if you really have echo that
you can't get rid of with software echo can, you could add the
hardware echo can after. With Digium's TDM2400P you can add the echo
can after. With Sangoma, I think you have to exchange the card for one
with it. You should call Sangoma to confirm
(http://www.sangoma.com/main/contact)


Thank you,

You're welcome
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an analog call recording solution (was: Recording outbound analog calls with X100P)

2006-11-16 Thread John Novack



Matthew J. Roth wrote:


Now I need to decide between the Sangoma A20202 and the Digium 
TDM2411.  I'm leaning heavily toward the Sangoma card for the 
following reasons:


- It doesn't require a 12V power connector for the operation of FXS 
modules.

It certainly does!

- It is compatible with 5v and 3.3v PCI buses.
- It shares PCI interrupts properly.
- It maintains a single synchronous PCI interface for all FXO/FXS 
ports (additional daughterboards are added to a backplane bus connector)

- It has a better form factor.
- It is less expensive.
If the need for a connector isn't a killer, the Sangoma A200 is a much 
better choice.

They have a 5 year warranty
The will work with any modern motherboard
They have good/great support. If it doesn't work, they will NOT tell you 
to try another motherboard
If by chance you need pulse dial, they have a different driver that may 
or may not be on the website.

Ask David in support for that.
If you have boards other than the A200, keep in mind that it takes up 24 
channels, used or not, so if, lets say, you have an X100 in addition ( 
don't know why you would ) and its driver is loaded second, it will be 
channel 25


Sangoma is the wise choice, in my opinion.

John Novack


These are rather compelling reasons, but I'd still like some feedback 
from the list prior to making a purchase.


Both cards offer hardware echo cancellation for an additional cost.  
Do the benefits of hardware EC justify the expense in this scenario?


Thank you,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer



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