Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-12-02 Thread John Faubion
 I guess /tmp can live in RAM, but what about eg. recording ten-twenty
 WAV files to /var a day, and logs into /var/log? Do I have to worry
 about the card wearing out in six months?

This is nothing really. Just make sure your using an industrial compact
flash card. These support 1-2 million cycles where many of the retail cards
only support 100,000 cycles. We also greatly limit the logs being generated.
Writing logs files creates many times more write cycles than voicemail ever
could. If your concerned about logs use syslog to send them to an external
system.

 I'm not sure I understand the need for the PCI card to be
 perpendicular to
 the board.

 So I can use a flatter box.

Then you don't want it perpendicular you want it parallel. The systems I'm
using and even the e140 do this. There is a short riser card that plugs into
the PCI slot on the board. The PCI card then plugs into this riser which
allows the PCI card to be parallel to the motherboard. The cases I use are
12.5 by 10.5 by 2 so you can see that is a pretty thin box.

John


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-12-01 Thread John Faubion
 Is the PCI slot large enough for full height, half length PCI boards ?

Yes.

 Has you heard of a  PCI Express version ?

No but the way chipsets are coming down in price, I would imagine someone
will have it soon.

John


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-12-01 Thread Vincent
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:55:38 -0600, John Faubion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The newer CF cards are making this nearly a mute point. Seems like I provide
updated software often enough that I never have CF cards wear out.

I guess /tmp can live in RAM, but what about eg. recording ten-twenty
WAV files to /var a day, and logs into /var/log? Do I have to worry
about the card wearing out in six months?

I'm not sure I understand the need for the PCI card to be perpendicular to
the board.

So I can use a flatter box.

Thanks.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-30 Thread Olivier
Hi,

2007/11/30, John Faubion [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Thanks for the tip. It seems like they no longer manufacture them:
 
  http://www.neoware.com/products/hardware/

 No, but the Neoware e140 has a PCI expansion slot, is expandable to 1GB
 RAM,
 and still has room inside the case for a hard drive. It is available
 without
 Win XPe starting at $339 new. The prices on these are coming down.


Is the PCI slot large enough for full height, half length PCI boards ?
Has you heard of a  PCI Express version ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-29 Thread Vincent
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:06:38 -0600, John Faubion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Many of the thin clients fit the bill nicely. I've been using MaxSpeed
MaxTerm clients lately.

Thanks for the tip. It seems like they no longer manufacture them:

http://www.neoware.com/products/hardware/

I'll look in the archives of the list to see what people have posted
about this. I'd really like to come up with a compact solution,
ideally:
- Fan-less, compact motherboard
- hard-disk (so I don't have to tweek Linux making too many writes and
wear down the CF card)
- a PCI card installed at an 90° angle (I prefer to use a PCI card
instead of an external FXO gateway)

I bought a Via motherboard in a compact case once, but 500E is a bit
pricey.

once
Thanks.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-29 Thread John Faubion
 Thanks for the tip. It seems like they no longer manufacture them:

 http://www.neoware.com/products/hardware/

No, but the Neoware e140 has a PCI expansion slot, is expandable to 1GB RAM,
and still has room inside the case for a hard drive. It is available without
Win XPe starting at $339 new. The prices on these are coming down.

 - Fan-less, compact motherboard

While some of these thin clients have fans, many of them only run the fan
when set horizontally and thus don't have the advantage of heat induced air
flow.

 - hard-disk (so I don't have to tweek Linux making too many writes and
 wear down the CF card)

The newer CF cards are making this nearly a mute point. Seems like I provide
updated software often enough that I never have CF cards wear out. We format
a new image for the customer and send out a new card. They take a couple of
minutes to power down the system, swap out the card and boot up on the new
load. When done they return the old card to us for recycling and get a $10
credit.

 - a PCI card installed at an 90° angle (I prefer to use a PCI card
 instead of an external FXO gateway)

I'm not sure I understand the need for the PCI card to be perpendicular to
the board. I prefer the flatter box since they mount to a wall well and
provide a nice compact installation.

John


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-28 Thread Vincent
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:14:15 +0100, Giuseppe Barichello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have successfully compiled and installed Asterisk on an Alix board
(AMD Geode 500 Mhz + 256 Mb RAM) on top of Voyage linux (a Debian
variant).

Very nice :-)

I'd rather use a PCI card to connect * to the POTS, and a hard-disk
instead of a CF card. Do you know of a similar, small form-factor
motherboard + case that would fit the bill?

Thanks.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-28 Thread John Faubion
 I'd rather use a PCI card to connect * to the POTS, and a hard-disk
 instead of a CF card. Do you know of a similar, small form-factor
 motherboard + case that would fit the bill?

Many of the thin clients fit the bill nicely. I've been using MaxSpeed
MaxTerm clients lately. Mainly because I bought several off ebay for about
$50 each. These have a VIA motherboard that has a PCI slot, plus USB and IDE
interfaces. They also have a CF adapter already in them and have room in the
case for 2.5 hard drives. An added bonus is they are powered by a 12VDC
adapter which makes battery backup a very simple task.

John



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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-21 Thread Andrea Cristofanini -- [GedamEurope]
Hi there
we have astlinux running  on alix board, it is awesome.
Andrea
Giuseppe Barichello ha scritto:
 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:39:31 -0600
 From: Bob Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board
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 On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 22:14 +0100, Giuseppe Barichello wrote:
 
 I have successfully compiled and installed Asterisk on an Alix board
 (AMD Geode 500 Mhz + 256 Mb RAM) on top of Voyage linux (a Debian
 variant).
 I'm using it at home for a month.

   
 That's very interesting! I've been curious about trying this. Did you
 run across any challenges getting this setup?

 

 Two main issues:
 1) Understanding how voyage linux configures read-only and rw mounts (I
 wanted to mount all /var tree as rw)
 2) Getting MOH play MP3 sound files with Debian standard packages: I
 had to recompile Asterisk from source to fix it.

 Giuseppe

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-20 Thread Giuseppe Barichello
Il giorno Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:54:38 -0500
Matthew Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

   Other than the Alix board, what else is needed to make a working PC?
 

You need a CF as main storage device (it is mounted ro on /). I also use
an USB stick where I mount /var in rw mode.
Obviously you need even a power supply (sold by Pcengines).

Giuseppe

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-20 Thread Giuseppe Barichello
 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:39:31 -0600
 From: Bob Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board
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 On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 22:14 +0100, Giuseppe Barichello wrote:
  I have successfully compiled and installed Asterisk on an Alix board
  (AMD Geode 500 Mhz + 256 Mb RAM) on top of Voyage linux (a Debian
  variant).
  I'm using it at home for a month.
  
 That's very interesting! I've been curious about trying this. Did you
 run across any challenges getting this setup?
 

Two main issues:
1) Understanding how voyage linux configures read-only and rw mounts (I
wanted to mount all /var tree as rw)
2) Getting MOH play MP3 sound files with Debian standard packages: I
had to recompile Asterisk from source to fix it.

Giuseppe

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-19 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
Other than the Alix board, what else is needed to make a working PC?


On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 07:28 -0600,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:14:15 +0100
 From: Giuseppe Barichello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have successfully compiled and installed Asterisk on an Alix board
 (AMD Geode 500 Mhz + 256 Mb RAM) on top of Voyage linux (a Debian
 variant).
 I'm using it at home for a month.
 
 I wondered how much it could be loaded, so I tested it with pbx-test:
 I could place up to 15 simultaneous SIP calls before it got no more
 responsive.
 
 All in all a good, stable and cheap solution for home and home-office
 environments.
 
 My 2 cents,
 
 Giuseppe
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-19 Thread Bob Pierce
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 22:14 +0100, Giuseppe Barichello wrote:
 I have successfully compiled and installed Asterisk on an Alix board
 (AMD Geode 500 Mhz + 256 Mb RAM) on top of Voyage linux (a Debian
 variant).
 I'm using it at home for a month.
 
That's very interesting! I've been curious about trying this. Did you
run across any challenges getting this setup?

Bob

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[asterisk-users] Asterisk on Pcengines Alix board

2007-11-18 Thread Giuseppe Barichello
Hi all,

I have successfully compiled and installed Asterisk on an Alix board
(AMD Geode 500 Mhz + 256 Mb RAM) on top of Voyage linux (a Debian
variant).
I'm using it at home for a month.

I wondered how much it could be loaded, so I tested it with pbx-test:
I could place up to 15 simultaneous SIP calls before it got no more
responsive.

All in all a good, stable and cheap solution for home and home-office
environments.

My 2 cents,

Giuseppe

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